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Therapy session 2 and feeling more insecure with fiance

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togo1004 · 01/08/2025 03:06

Finished session 2 with therapy. She addressed why my vision might become blurry when I’m stressed. She thinks that my brain doesn’t want me to see something and that stress is the trigger for it.

we dove deeper into my childhood trauma and talked more about myself. We have not reached diagnosis stage as we have a wide arrange of things to cover.

im currently traveling in China with my fiancé. We’ve already gotten into a few arguments but nothing major I see a big improvement already. I’d like your feedback on what the issue is, If it’s indeed my problem again and how I can address it better next time.

i know I don’t have the best diet. He’s been reminding me to drink water this entire time and I have a hard time drinking water if it’s not cold and when I’m full. We went out to get coffee and I suddenly got dizzy and passed out. I woke up a few seconds later and he shoved a bunch of candy in my mouth and forced me to eat it. I felt better in about 5 minutes and he carried me back to our hotel.

he looked so worried and he started telling me that he suspects I might be either diabetic and has hypoglycemia or have extremely low blood pressure. Either way it’s not good. Then he went on about how I really need to stop eating fried food and sugary things and focus on hydration and getting minerals in my body. I got so annoyed and got loud and said that I’ve been this way my whole life and it’s perfectly normal.

then he started listing things and saying things like “passing out in the middle of the street is normal?”
he went on about how I’m always tired, always have a headache, has mental disorders and thinks it’s largely contributed by my diet and life style. He went on about how he’s never seen me eat a salad or vegetables or fruit. He said “you can’t just live on pasta and fried food and soda”

He said that I’m likely malnutritioned and dehydrated for years and that unless I change it’s going to destroy my body. Ive felt so violated that I started crying. Now im just exhausted and want to go home.

i told him to stop commenting on how i eat because ill likely develop bulimia because of his comments. He literally told me that if I don’t change my life style he’s going to call off the marriage because he says “I will not marry someone who doesn’t prioritize health”. I told him that he cannot control me as it’s my body and it’s my choice on how I eat and live.

that evening I tried to make love to him and he turned me down saying that I’m not well and he thinks I might pass out during sex. I felt like he just didn’t want me at all..felt so rejected. He said that I’m still cold sweating looks pale and that I should really stop eating fried noodles and eat some salad and drink 2 liters of water today and do this everyday and he just went to sleep.

I know I’m not diabetic from tests a while
back but I did take blood pressure the next morning at a pharmacy near by and my bp came back hypotension.

we were ok that day went to pool but he won’t touch me the way he used to and I’m feeling insecure.

did i handle this ok? It didn’t escalate into a big fight but was thinking it’s my body my choice the right thing to say in this point? His point is that it’s selfish because he’s the one responsible for medical bills for us and that I should be taking care of my health for both of us as he does the same.

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PsychoHotSauce · 04/08/2025 11:04

togo1004 · 04/08/2025 10:44

After he asked and couldn’t find, he didn’t have to offer a solution to shut me up. He could have just reassured me. I needed that at that moment.

this is why I say he doesn’t understand me at all.

Do you understand him? I see a lot of 'he's not doing what I want/what I need' but not much of what you do for him and whether you give him what he needs.

He doesn't exist purely to accommodate your every whim and pander to your feelings with no regard for his own, you know.

Booyaka619 · 04/08/2025 11:08

togo1004 · 04/08/2025 10:44

After he asked and couldn’t find, he didn’t have to offer a solution to shut me up. He could have just reassured me. I needed that at that moment.

this is why I say he doesn’t understand me at all.

You focused on the pen, and the desired solution.

Without any prompting from you - when he was understandably reluctant to bother other passengers, despite your insistence that he must - he reassured you that there was no rush and you could do it when you landed. What else could he have reassured you about? What else did you need reassurance over?

togo1004 · 04/08/2025 11:10

anytipswelcome · 04/08/2025 11:01

People find you ‘too much’.

Your relationship is in such bad shape you fight all the time and have to post on anonymous forums for advice.

Literally everyone on the threads, based only on your side of the story and not even his, tells you you’re unreasonable, controlling and abusive.

Yet you still don’t see that the common denominator in your poor relationships both friendships and relationships, is you and your behaviour.

Im not one to armchair diagnose but I would be staggered if you don’t have a personality disorder.

But how do I know if I’m too much?? I thought me and my best friend was super close. She had no money during university my parents housed her and fed her for 2 years without asking for anything.

when we used to travel together, and when I was making more I always treated her to things. I always went to her to talk to her when I had issues and she began telling me that I’m super negative and that she was having a hard time talking to me.

i couldn’t understand, because I always heard her out when she was having issues and was there for her, but she wasn’t there for me.

i just want like a sister like relationship who I can hang and talk to about anything and I get really jealous when I hear him talking to his friends. He has the same friends since he was 9 years old until now and they are literally brothers.

I just want the same

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togo1004 · 04/08/2025 11:11

Booyaka619 · 04/08/2025 11:08

You focused on the pen, and the desired solution.

Without any prompting from you - when he was understandably reluctant to bother other passengers, despite your insistence that he must - he reassured you that there was no rush and you could do it when you landed. What else could he have reassured you about? What else did you need reassurance over?

I needed him to ask me if I was ok. He didn’t even think about that. I was not ok because at that moment anxiety sat in really bad. And I wanted to just get out of airport and not stop by a station to write anything.

instead of calming me down and hearing my emotions he offered a solution instead.

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togo1004 · 04/08/2025 11:13

PsychoHotSauce · 04/08/2025 11:04

Do you understand him? I see a lot of 'he's not doing what I want/what I need' but not much of what you do for him and whether you give him what he needs.

He doesn't exist purely to accommodate your every whim and pander to your feelings with no regard for his own, you know.

I do but he doesn’t really have needs it seems. He does everything by himself without asking for help at all and doesn’t complain about it.

he has to understand not everyone’s like this. Just because he’s hyper independent he thinks everyone is the same. He’s got the mentality of “I can do it why can’t you?”

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GentlemanJay · 04/08/2025 11:16

togo1004 · 01/08/2025 04:09

But I’m really trying. I just keep forgetting to drink water and have a hard time controlling my cravings.

I just wanna eat pasta and pizza all the time..

this is why he’s having to remind you but you call that guilt tripping.

PsychoHotSauce · 04/08/2025 11:20

togo1004 · 04/08/2025 11:13

I do but he doesn’t really have needs it seems. He does everything by himself without asking for help at all and doesn’t complain about it.

he has to understand not everyone’s like this. Just because he’s hyper independent he thinks everyone is the same. He’s got the mentality of “I can do it why can’t you?”

If you're truly unable to adult, pay for a personal assistant. Don't use your boyfriend for this. You seem to have this expectation that he should be your slave or carer. If you need a carer or assistant, pay for one.

But no, he's not 'hyper independent' and it's not that he 'doesn't have needs'. You just don't see or care about his needs and he cracks on like the rest of us do.

What would you do if he suddenly started behaving exactly like you do? Needing every little thing handled and crying and threatening when he didn't get his own way and you didn't accommodate his 'needs'? What would you do? Whose needs get priority then?

AMurderofMurderingCrows · 04/08/2025 11:20

You are too much because you're a mood hoover. Everything is doom and gloom. You are constantly complaining and focused on you and your problems.

Is there anything good going on in your life that you can talk about?

anytipswelcome · 04/08/2025 11:21

togo1004 · 04/08/2025 11:13

I do but he doesn’t really have needs it seems. He does everything by himself without asking for help at all and doesn’t complain about it.

he has to understand not everyone’s like this. Just because he’s hyper independent he thinks everyone is the same. He’s got the mentality of “I can do it why can’t you?”

That’s a lie. He did tell you a number of things he was unhappy with because you started a different thread a while back explaining what those things were and saying he doesn’t appreciate you.

Booyaka619 · 04/08/2025 11:25

togo1004 · 04/08/2025 11:11

I needed him to ask me if I was ok. He didn’t even think about that. I was not ok because at that moment anxiety sat in really bad. And I wanted to just get out of airport and not stop by a station to write anything.

instead of calming me down and hearing my emotions he offered a solution instead.

As you were losing your shit over a pen, it was probably quite obvious you are not okay. Besides which, if he’d asked, I’m sure you’d be complaining that he’s not attentive enough.

He recognised your emotions and tried to calm you down by telling you there was no rush.

Did you tell him, at any point, that you were also worried about delays when you landed? (I’m going to guess you’ll either change the narrative to make him the uncaring villain, or come out with some nonsense like “he should have guessed”)

togo1004 · 04/08/2025 11:26

PsychoHotSauce · 04/08/2025 11:20

If you're truly unable to adult, pay for a personal assistant. Don't use your boyfriend for this. You seem to have this expectation that he should be your slave or carer. If you need a carer or assistant, pay for one.

But no, he's not 'hyper independent' and it's not that he 'doesn't have needs'. You just don't see or care about his needs and he cracks on like the rest of us do.

What would you do if he suddenly started behaving exactly like you do? Needing every little thing handled and crying and threatening when he didn't get his own way and you didn't accommodate his 'needs'? What would you do? Whose needs get priority then?

I can’t afford that, but if he gets rich later I’d like one for sure lol.

well he’s the man in the relationship and he needs to stay stronger than me, this is how it should be

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togo1004 · 04/08/2025 11:28

AMurderofMurderingCrows · 04/08/2025 11:20

You are too much because you're a mood hoover. Everything is doom and gloom. You are constantly complaining and focused on you and your problems.

Is there anything good going on in your life that you can talk about?

Well he says that I have a good relationship with my parents which is big.

he also says that I’m young and I have more time than him.

he said that I’m quite beautiful and I’ve been blessed with looks.

he says I’m quite smart because I graduated and went to university at 16.

but I have such a hard time not focusing on the turbulence in my life, such unfair things have happened to me so many times.

and his response is “we all have had unlucky events but that’s life you just move on”

it’s just a cold thing to say

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togo1004 · 04/08/2025 11:31

Booyaka619 · 04/08/2025 11:25

As you were losing your shit over a pen, it was probably quite obvious you are not okay. Besides which, if he’d asked, I’m sure you’d be complaining that he’s not attentive enough.

He recognised your emotions and tried to calm you down by telling you there was no rush.

Did you tell him, at any point, that you were also worried about delays when you landed? (I’m going to guess you’ll either change the narrative to make him the uncaring villain, or come out with some nonsense like “he should have guessed”)

I didn’t tell him that, I just wanted to go home in which he quickly called a taxi and took us home.

i haven’t spoken to him much today as i was also busy working.

hes cooking dinner now some fish and veggies which i dont want to eat but have no choice today

OP posts:
Booyaka619 · 04/08/2025 11:37

togo1004 · 04/08/2025 11:31

I didn’t tell him that, I just wanted to go home in which he quickly called a taxi and took us home.

i haven’t spoken to him much today as i was also busy working.

hes cooking dinner now some fish and veggies which i dont want to eat but have no choice today

So he also recognised what you needed and made sure you were okay by quickly booking a taxi and getting you home? How attentive and caring.

And now, despite you giving him a hard time for not being even better at handling your mood swings and unreasonable demands, he’s cooking dinner for you? Making sure you get something healthy, without you even having to think about it, because you struggle to take care of your own health and have been passing out due to deficiencies recently?

And you’re still somehow managing to find fault with him?

CaptainFuture · 04/08/2025 11:44

togo1004 · 04/08/2025 11:31

I didn’t tell him that, I just wanted to go home in which he quickly called a taxi and took us home.

i haven’t spoken to him much today as i was also busy working.

hes cooking dinner now some fish and veggies which i dont want to eat but have no choice today

Why do you have no choice? Cook for yourself.

Calliecarpa · 04/08/2025 11:57

I can't even imagine how utterly exhausting it must be to live with someone who kicks off like this over a pen. A freaking pen. Who needs reassurance and to have her emotions listened to because she doesn't have a pen. Even reading about it is exhausting. That poor man.

PsychoHotSauce · 04/08/2025 12:18

togo1004 · 04/08/2025 11:26

I can’t afford that, but if he gets rich later I’d like one for sure lol.

well he’s the man in the relationship and he needs to stay stronger than me, this is how it should be

Yeah, I can see exactly how that would play out.

He 'gets rich', pays for an assistant to manage your incessant and ever-changing 'needs'. You STILL have a strop and start a thread because you think he's 'outsourced his responsibilities which proves he doesn't care'...

He will never be able to win.

Contraryjane · 04/08/2025 12:20

well he’s the man in the relationship and he needs to stay stronger than me, this is how it should be

Don't be so fucking feeble

Adlenspup · 04/08/2025 12:38

togo1004 · 04/08/2025 10:57

I truly am desperate for real friendship. I watch movies and always wish I had a girl friend like a sister.

I thought I had but she literally blocked me and told me to never contact her again.

I met another girl recently we had pasta and coffee together. But she’s much younger than me. She is nice but she’s also very busy with her life and doesn’t really contact me.

im always the one contacting everyone but nobody wants to stay in touch. It’s why I wanted guy friends but all of them tried having sex with me eventually and that was a big no

YOU are the reason why nobody wants to be friends with you. Your fiancé's friends are only polite.
You behave horrendously.

Adlenspup · 04/08/2025 12:44

You will never find anyone who wants to spend time with you, you are unsufferable.

FlipFlopShopInHawaii · 04/08/2025 12:50

togo1004 · 04/08/2025 11:26

I can’t afford that, but if he gets rich later I’d like one for sure lol.

well he’s the man in the relationship and he needs to stay stronger than me, this is how it should be

There we go... the reason why op is staying in this relationship with an "abusive" man (we can all see he's not abusive!).
If anyone has ever seen Mrs Merton's interview with Debbie McGee, you'll know......

CuppaTea23 · 04/08/2025 13:00

anytipswelcome · 04/08/2025 11:21

That’s a lie. He did tell you a number of things he was unhappy with because you started a different thread a while back explaining what those things were and saying he doesn’t appreciate you.

Also, wasn't there a thing in a previous thread about your mum being an addict OP, and a really dysfunctional relationship, that went some way to explaining your frankly bizarre behaviour and seeming addiction to these threads? I think there are lots of lies, which makes me think this is a bit like Munchausen's, you're just enjoying the attention with this baiting?

togo1004 · 04/08/2025 13:12

Ok let me ask you a question and tell me if im
wrong here.

i found out that he can get a second SIM card with a separate number which i can use for free.

so I asked him to call today and he forgot. I got pissed but stayed quiet.

then he said my bad I forgot can you remind me
tomorrow incase I forget?

i said you need to write it down and it’s not my job to remind you.

he said you need the card not me, I’ll write it but can you remind me as well incase I forget?

I told him it’s his job to remember.

he said no it’s not you need the card not me ill
write it down and try to remember but incase I forget you need to remind me cuz YOU need it not ME. Then I said no it’s your responsibility. He called me a mean crazy bitch and stormed out.

now we are in fact like he always say.

can you honestly say it’s my fault??

OP posts:
PsychoHotSauce · 04/08/2025 13:18

togo1004 · 04/08/2025 13:12

Ok let me ask you a question and tell me if im
wrong here.

i found out that he can get a second SIM card with a separate number which i can use for free.

so I asked him to call today and he forgot. I got pissed but stayed quiet.

then he said my bad I forgot can you remind me
tomorrow incase I forget?

i said you need to write it down and it’s not my job to remind you.

he said you need the card not me, I’ll write it but can you remind me as well incase I forget?

I told him it’s his job to remember.

he said no it’s not you need the card not me ill
write it down and try to remember but incase I forget you need to remind me cuz YOU need it not ME. Then I said no it’s your responsibility. He called me a mean crazy bitch and stormed out.

now we are in fact like he always say.

can you honestly say it’s my fault??

On what planet do you ask for a favour and then refuse to give a minor favour in return - reminding him? It shows how completely selfish you are.

Booyaka619 · 04/08/2025 13:22

togo1004 · 04/08/2025 13:12

Ok let me ask you a question and tell me if im
wrong here.

i found out that he can get a second SIM card with a separate number which i can use for free.

so I asked him to call today and he forgot. I got pissed but stayed quiet.

then he said my bad I forgot can you remind me
tomorrow incase I forget?

i said you need to write it down and it’s not my job to remind you.

he said you need the card not me, I’ll write it but can you remind me as well incase I forget?

I told him it’s his job to remember.

he said no it’s not you need the card not me ill
write it down and try to remember but incase I forget you need to remind me cuz YOU need it not ME. Then I said no it’s your responsibility. He called me a mean crazy bitch and stormed out.

now we are in fact like he always say.

can you honestly say it’s my fault??

can you honestly say it’s my fault??

Yes.