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Husband putting pressure on having children yet has no plan

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Shs726 · 15/07/2025 21:19

We have been together 8 years and married for 3. No children.

Age. I am 33 and DH 43

When we first met, we discussed children. He told me he did want children but only after marriage. I told him I’m not totally against having children but I’m not fussed if I didn’t have any. I also stated, if I did, I only wanted one.

We didn’t live together whilst we dated. Our plan was that we would buy a house together and live there once married.
I already owned a house which I was renting out. He was living at his parent’s spare home. As we set our wedding date and look at houses to buy, he changed his mind.

He wanted to buy a property on his own name with his own money as a safety net because he claimed I already had my own safety net. (Even though I purchased my house before ever meeting him).

When he was looking for a place, he found a one bedroom flat in London. I did advise him at the time, maybe look for something bigger or just on the outskirts of London. Again, he was adamant the place be in London as my property is in London and he wants the same safety net/investment. And that his plan was we would live in it for 4/5 years, then he’ll rent it out and we could purchase our forever house. At the time, I did question him how was all this possible?

I remember we sat down and went through our finances and put everything on a spreadsheet. We spent hours on this. We came up with a plan. That he would overpay his mortgage (as he was lucky to get really low interest rate). And utilise the rest of our savings. Afterr getting married we would continue to save and keep our outgoings low.

We got married. I moved into flat. Although I don’t pay towards the mortgage (as the flat is his investment) , I do pay for other bills and all our holidays. I also don’t ask him for any money and pay for my own upkeep. (Our finances are separate). Also the property I already own, I continue to overpay the mortgage and also pay for any maintenance/costs associated with the house.

Now I do earn a decent wage and also have passive income. Due to that, after bills and costs, I do save around £4K a month towards getting our next house. In the 3 years we have been married, my husband has not overpaid any of his mortgage as agreed. Nor has he made any substantial savings. Which is surprising, as after bills, he should have quite a bit left over. (He also earns decent).
Also I’m very hands on at home. I do all the cooking and most of the chores. I also work more hours than him at work. Average 50/55hrs a week in comparison to his 35hr week. I also have to do night shifts every other week. He doesn’t.

In regard to having kids, we’ve had this discussion many times. Where I’ve said, I’m not raising a family in one bedroom flat. And also I would have to go part time, so naturally would take a significant pay cut. Plus costs would go up as there would be a child.
So we agreed on 2 years time we would try for a baby and only have one child. We planned in two years time, we would have saved enough (tbh 95% of the savings come from me and I earn more than husband), and hopefully some of my investments would come through in order to purchase our next house. He’s also very adamant the house be in London.

Out of nowhere, he’s now putting pressure on me to have a baby now as he’s not going to wait. He also wants multiple children. He basically said if I didn’t, we should separate. I agreed, that we should separate. I wasn’t going to cave into his ultimatum and didn’t appreciate the aggressive tone he was speaking to me.

Then he tried to argue. I said be realistic, how are we going to raise a family in a one bedroom?

He tells me the world manages so will we. When I ask him but what’s the plan?
He has no answer other than “we’ll manage”.

When I remind him, it was him who made the choice of getting a one bedroom, he made the choice of not getting a house together years ago, he made the choice of living in London, and he’s the one who didn’t save towards our future house as planned, so what exactly is “we’ll manage”. And I reminded him why did he wait years to propose then? Why did he wait until his 40s to get married and now panicking he’ll be an old dad. Why not get married in his 20s or 30s?

His reaction: get angry and swear. Rather than own his actions and decisions he made.

As I know the burden will fall on me. I also remind him once the baby is here, I won’t be able to pay as much towards the bills nor save as my salary will drop plus baby costs. He says he’ll pay for me and the child. But I don’t believe him, as he barely manages to save now despite me contributing a lot.

Then he start comparing me to his friends wives. Saying XYZ wife don’t work, they have 6 kids. Another XYZ wife she doesn’t work, they have 2 kids they manage, so why can’t we?

It’s frustrating that he’s dismissed everything I have done for this marriage. And also saving for a bigger house to raise a family that ultimately is his dream more than mine.

Finally I said it’s hurtful that he’s known me for 8 years and dismissed everything I’ve done and how I’ve supported his goals. But I’m not going to be bullied into having a child now when we agreed 2027 we would try for a baby. And if we need to part ways then so be it. He can find someone else and start his family.

Hours later, he apologised and hugged me. But I feel so different towards him now. I’m also now convinced if we were to have children, the burden of most of the childcare would fall on me. And I’m sure if I stopped contributing financially/saving, he’d still have a problem with me.

Where to go from this?

OP posts:
holrosea · 16/07/2025 13:42

"Tbh I did get the impression that he tries to compete with me... From his desire to all of a sudden have his own investment property to remarks he makes about my salary and how easy I have life."

Absolutely huge red flag here, followed by the unfair split of domestic labour, not to mention your working hours, and heavily underlined by your decision to keep your head down "for an easy life".

Please OP, seek legal advice and start to quietly make a plan to leave.

In answer to your question, he apologised because he's walking a fine line of keeping you subservient enough to facilitate his life while not being so blatant as to push you into defiance.

He doesn't have a leg to stand on - with any of it - but when he started pointing to examples of "John's wife does this" and you fairly pointed out that John supports the whole family, he sailed too close to the wind. He risked the scales falling from your eyes when faced with the object reality of a directly comparable situation.

His apology was pouring oil on troubled waters to stop you examining the situation too closely. He is apologised to keep you compliant to his whims.

LadyQuackBeth · 16/07/2025 13:44

FWIW I know how his friends wives manage it - they aren't married to petty man-babies who bully them into stupid decisions cos "it's not fair," and have Champagne tastes with lemonade level financial literacy.

Drop the dead weight, he's not bringing you joy, just stress. You sound amazing. Try to read the thread OP as if it was someone else writing it, you'll see how you are streets ahead of him.

HappilyUrbanTrimmer · 16/07/2025 13:51

End this relationship.
He is not a good man.
The sooner you are rid of him the better.
You shouldn't have married him. Unfortunately he may be able to swipe some of your assets which presumably was his plan, but the sooner you file for divorce the better as the courts may agree for you to leave with your own assets intact if the marriage was short.

EcoChica1980 · 16/07/2025 14:16

No one gets to decide if you have a baby except you.

FWIW - I do suspect you would 'manage' if a child comes along - with or without a firm plan at this stage. It's pretty normal to have a child in a small flat and then move when you need to. In fact there is sense in that as you will only really know where you want to be and how much space you need once you have children.

You both earn well, and that will make things much easier.

But it doesn't sound like you want children, or at least mot with him. You concerns about his saving and his lack of planning feel a bit like displacement activity - it wcomes dowm to not wanting children.

Sodthesystem · 16/07/2025 14:18

That's a good point too, where IS his money going? Surely he should be able to show you. Unless he has something to hide.

Eg, he isn't earning what he says, or, he's spending it on a hidden addiction like gambling or cocaine...or onlyfans...or worse. Or, he's squireling it away somewhere so he can pretend he doesn't have it in the event of a divorce.

I'd ask for full transparency. I'd ask to see his statements. That'll tell you the truth if things. Moreso if he refuses to show them.

MrsCarson · 16/07/2025 14:47

You may want to use the big 4k a month savings to overpay your mortgage too, If you divorce he'll get half of all those hard earned savings even though he was supposed to save too, you've done it for him.
Don't let him take you for a mug.

ForZanyAquaViewer · 16/07/2025 14:55

Shs726 · 16/07/2025 03:31

Tbh I did get the impression that he tries to compete with me. But then I didn’t let the thought dominate my mind as I didn’t want any negative feelings. From his desire to all of a sudden have his own investment property to remarks he makes about my salary and how easy I have life.

I work so many hours as I’m trying to earn as much so we can achieve the dreams of 1) getting a bigger place quicker.

I also do more chores at home as in all honestly I’ve just become defeated. For long time, I wasn’t happy with how I was doing most of the chores. It led to many repetitive arguments. Ultimately, I gave up. Tbh to him, he has improved a lot compared to the start. Before he rarely did any chores. Now he does more but not anywhere near 50/50. I just accepted I’ll have to do more chores for the sake of keeping a peaceful marriage.

but in all honestly, no matter how much I try or sacrifices I make, it seems like he always has something to use against me. Some problem he will have against me. Something he’ll find.

At the start, it was buying property we live in. He wouldn’t listen to my advice that buying 1 bedroom flat isn’t a long term plan unless he has another back up. That caused drama at the time. Which we eventually resolved by coming up with a plan. (Which he didn’t stick to anyway).

Then there was the case of chores. Ultimately I accepted he’s began to do more and it’s better than before and for the sake of peace… just let it be.

Then there was the case of talking about how his other friends do so much holidays and how he really needs one. So I start working extra hours to save more towards holidays without jeopardising house saving goals. (During which time, I would work 72hrs a week). Again, I start planning 2-3 holidays a year. Not cheap holidays too.

He throws subtle hints about wanting a new car. Personally, I think it’s silly to buy a new car when he barely drives (1-2k miles a year) and we already have two cars between us. One day I confronted him that why would you want a new car when I thought plan was to save towards our house? His answer was “I’m not asking you to pay for it”. But he misses the point, that the money whether he or I spend on a new car could go towards our house? Especially as we dont need a car and there’s nothing wrong with the ones we have.
Also, I still drive my 15 year old car because it does the job. But again I said it’s up to him. As I don’t want drama.

Then he’ll compare me to his friends wives. They are great women and I appreciate raising a family isn’t easy and they are amazing mothers. I have a lot of respect for them. But I’m not them? I made it clear from the start, I wasn’t super maternal and wasn’t fussed about kids. And the wives he compares me to, don’t work and their husband’s provide for them. So why isn’t he comparing himself to his friends who are the sole breadwinners? I also ensure I cook for him. I keep the house clean. I do the “domesticated” duties. I invite his family and friends over and host dinner parties. I also get my husband with gifts regularly. I try make him happy.

but he always finds something.
now all a sudden wanting multiple kids now and giving me an ultimatum.

im just tired of it all. I’m also curious why he later apologised.

I don’t understand how you could write all that out and still think this is an acceptable situation. Why are you with this man?

2catsandhappy · 16/07/2025 14:59

@nomas raises a good point!
Can you use savings to overpay your mortgage @Shs726 ?

He doesn't sound very driven or ambitious or future focused.
Reaping the benefits of your hard work and savings is all I have gotten from this.

Time for some hard, hard thinking and decision making. Is he a right now man or the right man?

TheZingyFish · 16/07/2025 15:42

I’d be tempted to put a significant chunk of your savings into paying extra on the mortgage on your property, that way he won’t be able to get his hands on it when you divorce or buy yourself a new car to match his. You need to leave but currently he could claim half of these savings.

2025ismybestyear · 16/07/2025 15:58

He apologised to soften you up and buy himself more time a slave provider.

Foreverm0re · 16/07/2025 16:01

Sorry lost interest before I even got the bit about finally wanting kids, but it doesn’t sound like much of a marriage to me. You sound like business partners.

WordsFailMeYetAgain · 16/07/2025 16:20

Shs726 · 15/07/2025 21:43

We already have legal agreements in place. He would have his property and I would have mine. Any savings, we would split accordingly.

So all YOUR savings would be split as it sounds like he doesn't have any! I would get the hell out of there before he can take any more savings.

WordsFailMeYetAgain · 16/07/2025 16:21

TheZingyFish · 16/07/2025 15:42

I’d be tempted to put a significant chunk of your savings into paying extra on the mortgage on your property, that way he won’t be able to get his hands on it when you divorce or buy yourself a new car to match his. You need to leave but currently he could claim half of these savings.

This is brilliant - yes, do this!

Shs726 · 16/07/2025 16:40

He does have savings just not as much as what was agreed. His arguement is it’s easier for me to save as I earn more. Which I guess is true to some extent. However, I also stick to agreed goals and have made cut backs on where I spend. Whereas when we newly got married, he start spending more money on designer goods (he’s stopped last year).

He just keeps changing the goalposts and not sticking to the plan and still finds a way to penalise me.

OP posts:
2025ismybestyear · 16/07/2025 16:42

So stop letting him. Stop going along with it while doing nothing about it.

BruFord · 16/07/2025 16:54

If he’s constantly changing goalposts and penalizing you, what do you think he’ll be like as a father?

Children need love, support, and security, not criticism and constantly shifting goalposts.
Honestly, you’re ambivalent about having children and he doesn’t sound like good parenting material. I wouldn’t do it.

One of my SIL’s was in a similar situation. Her DH said that he wanted children when they got together, but after a few years, she realized that he was too self-absorbed to be a good parent and that she’d be expected to do everything. Luckily she wasn’t too bothered about having children.

This was years ago and they’re still together, he clearly realized that it wasn’t particularly important to him either. I don’t think he had any idea what parenting requires and he’s still v. self-absorbed - nice enough to be around but everything’s about him!

Sodthesystem · 16/07/2025 17:03

The good news is, it's 2025 and we don't have to have kids.

Or, stay married to bad partners.

Children aren't even relevant in this relationship as he can't even do the husband part right.

If he can't even get the basics of a harmonious, happy relationship down then he's not father material.

Doorwayss · 16/07/2025 17:29

Pay down your morgage of your house.
Keep those savings out of his hands.
Lazy selfish wasters are very concerned on getting every penny they can from their victims.

Cut the loser loose.

Neetra30 · 16/07/2025 17:56

OohhhhhBigStretch · 16/07/2025 10:30

I love these people who day ‘we’ll manage’ when asked how things will work. My ex used to use that exact line.

‘how will we pay this big mortgage if we move’ - oh we’ll manage

‘how will we be financially if I become a SAHP - oh we’ll manage

other favourites of his we’re ‘ we’ll find the money of needed’

What I realised was, what he actually should have said is ‘OohhhhhBigStretch will find a way’ ‘OohhhhhBigStretch will work more hours’ ‘OohhhhhBigStretch is paying into a pension so we will use that in retirement’ ‘OohhhhhBigStretch’s job is flexible so she can do all the drop offs and pick ups from school’ ‘OohhhhhBigStretch can work from home so will do the lions share of housework’

all of the above even though I was the higher earner. He pretty much meant ‘OohhhhhBigStretch will sort it all out, do it all, whilst I free wheel through life and let her make my wants and needs come true’

This is classic my kids dad was the same.
When I had my eldest none of us owned homes or had stable jobs. I was stupid enough to believe him when he kept on saying "we will manage" when I raised my concerns about bringing a child into the world without basic essentials.
Once my eldest was born he put me in a position where I was essentially homeless. I had to sort out everything, find us a home to rent,use my savings for the deposit, sort out all the direct debits. All of that whilst trying to deal with a newborn for the first time on my own.
Men. I will never trust them to that sort of level ever again.

Theoldbird · 16/07/2025 18:16

TheZingyFish · 16/07/2025 15:42

I’d be tempted to put a significant chunk of your savings into paying extra on the mortgage on your property, that way he won’t be able to get his hands on it when you divorce or buy yourself a new car to match his. You need to leave but currently he could claim half of these savings.

💯 this.

Also it would be the wrost idea in the world to have a dc with this man. He sounds manipulative and jealous of you, and sounds like he has no idea what it means to be an adult never mind a parent, because you have become his mum, working extra to facilitate his life and manage the home, whilst putting huge sums into joint savings. No wonder he thinks you'll 'manage', he has no bloody clue does he. What kind of father would he even be?

The only solution is overpay your own mortgage and divorce him.

Needlenardlenoo · 16/07/2025 18:28

Do not have a baby with this man!!!

OrangeAndPistachio · 16/07/2025 18:31

@Neetra30 I was married to a 'we'll manage' man. We moved 5 times in 6 years because he was so bad with money and I could only rescue us so much.

I know this probably won't happen to the op because she has her own money and property but this man will take her down with him to some degree.

FinallyHere · 16/07/2025 18:36

Goodness. why would you even think of having a family with someone who already leaves you to do all the chores even though you are the higher earner.

He has clocked that getting you pregnant with put the kibosh on your career and chain you to him

please for the love of sweet life do not do it. Get out, drop him and enjoy the rest of your life.

MeTooOverHere · 16/07/2025 22:32

Designer goods? He was buying designer goods too? How old is this man-child?

PlayingDevilsAdvocateisinteresting · 17/07/2025 00:15

You are so strong in many ways @Shs726, and I am so impressed by how well you are managing your life. But you don't sound even content - which I think must be a great feeling to have - never mind happy. I feel as if you have one enormous blind spot in your life, one that would have given me the ick many years ago, yes, of course I mean, your not so dear partner. I think that leeches have more going for them than your husband does (they have a helpful use medically).

You do not sound to me as if you are in love with him, maybe you were at one time, but I think he has worn that down now, to making you feel - very reasonably - resentment, and maybe even a dislike of him that your natural good heartedness is keeping hidden from you for now? He certainly appears to me, to be extremely selfish, and rather unintelligent - at least when it comes to him being able to both think and act, logically and sensibly.

Do you really want to share the rest of your life with this man, always having to bury your needs and desires in order to let his thrive? Imo you deserve so much more than that, and I really hope you can see that sooner or later, but of course, preferably sooner, and way before you get pregnant to this apparently very inadequate man. I think that he apologises to you when he realises that he has pushed you too far, and that he may in fact lose you, if he doesn't tread more carefully. I think he is terrified of the thought of having to cope with life on his own, and that he probably thinks the more babies he has with you, the more likely you are to feel trapped with him.

I think that you may benefit from some personal counselling, in the hope that it may help you see your relationship with this man from a more 'outside looking in' perspective? 💐

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