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Husband putting pressure on having children yet has no plan

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Shs726 · 15/07/2025 21:19

We have been together 8 years and married for 3. No children.

Age. I am 33 and DH 43

When we first met, we discussed children. He told me he did want children but only after marriage. I told him I’m not totally against having children but I’m not fussed if I didn’t have any. I also stated, if I did, I only wanted one.

We didn’t live together whilst we dated. Our plan was that we would buy a house together and live there once married.
I already owned a house which I was renting out. He was living at his parent’s spare home. As we set our wedding date and look at houses to buy, he changed his mind.

He wanted to buy a property on his own name with his own money as a safety net because he claimed I already had my own safety net. (Even though I purchased my house before ever meeting him).

When he was looking for a place, he found a one bedroom flat in London. I did advise him at the time, maybe look for something bigger or just on the outskirts of London. Again, he was adamant the place be in London as my property is in London and he wants the same safety net/investment. And that his plan was we would live in it for 4/5 years, then he’ll rent it out and we could purchase our forever house. At the time, I did question him how was all this possible?

I remember we sat down and went through our finances and put everything on a spreadsheet. We spent hours on this. We came up with a plan. That he would overpay his mortgage (as he was lucky to get really low interest rate). And utilise the rest of our savings. Afterr getting married we would continue to save and keep our outgoings low.

We got married. I moved into flat. Although I don’t pay towards the mortgage (as the flat is his investment) , I do pay for other bills and all our holidays. I also don’t ask him for any money and pay for my own upkeep. (Our finances are separate). Also the property I already own, I continue to overpay the mortgage and also pay for any maintenance/costs associated with the house.

Now I do earn a decent wage and also have passive income. Due to that, after bills and costs, I do save around £4K a month towards getting our next house. In the 3 years we have been married, my husband has not overpaid any of his mortgage as agreed. Nor has he made any substantial savings. Which is surprising, as after bills, he should have quite a bit left over. (He also earns decent).
Also I’m very hands on at home. I do all the cooking and most of the chores. I also work more hours than him at work. Average 50/55hrs a week in comparison to his 35hr week. I also have to do night shifts every other week. He doesn’t.

In regard to having kids, we’ve had this discussion many times. Where I’ve said, I’m not raising a family in one bedroom flat. And also I would have to go part time, so naturally would take a significant pay cut. Plus costs would go up as there would be a child.
So we agreed on 2 years time we would try for a baby and only have one child. We planned in two years time, we would have saved enough (tbh 95% of the savings come from me and I earn more than husband), and hopefully some of my investments would come through in order to purchase our next house. He’s also very adamant the house be in London.

Out of nowhere, he’s now putting pressure on me to have a baby now as he’s not going to wait. He also wants multiple children. He basically said if I didn’t, we should separate. I agreed, that we should separate. I wasn’t going to cave into his ultimatum and didn’t appreciate the aggressive tone he was speaking to me.

Then he tried to argue. I said be realistic, how are we going to raise a family in a one bedroom?

He tells me the world manages so will we. When I ask him but what’s the plan?
He has no answer other than “we’ll manage”.

When I remind him, it was him who made the choice of getting a one bedroom, he made the choice of not getting a house together years ago, he made the choice of living in London, and he’s the one who didn’t save towards our future house as planned, so what exactly is “we’ll manage”. And I reminded him why did he wait years to propose then? Why did he wait until his 40s to get married and now panicking he’ll be an old dad. Why not get married in his 20s or 30s?

His reaction: get angry and swear. Rather than own his actions and decisions he made.

As I know the burden will fall on me. I also remind him once the baby is here, I won’t be able to pay as much towards the bills nor save as my salary will drop plus baby costs. He says he’ll pay for me and the child. But I don’t believe him, as he barely manages to save now despite me contributing a lot.

Then he start comparing me to his friends wives. Saying XYZ wife don’t work, they have 6 kids. Another XYZ wife she doesn’t work, they have 2 kids they manage, so why can’t we?

It’s frustrating that he’s dismissed everything I have done for this marriage. And also saving for a bigger house to raise a family that ultimately is his dream more than mine.

Finally I said it’s hurtful that he’s known me for 8 years and dismissed everything I’ve done and how I’ve supported his goals. But I’m not going to be bullied into having a child now when we agreed 2027 we would try for a baby. And if we need to part ways then so be it. He can find someone else and start his family.

Hours later, he apologised and hugged me. But I feel so different towards him now. I’m also now convinced if we were to have children, the burden of most of the childcare would fall on me. And I’m sure if I stopped contributing financially/saving, he’d still have a problem with me.

Where to go from this?

OP posts:
Shs726 · 16/07/2025 09:35

Everythingisokay · 16/07/2025 09:13

If you both want to stay together and work through your issues, the logical decision here is to sell the flat and buy a house together.
You don't have to own three properties between yourselves in London, which is what you're aiming for and it's throwing a spanner in the works.

Yes, we don’t have to have own three properties.

But the issue recently stemmed from him issuing an ultimatum that he wants kids now. Instead of what we agreed, to have one child and try in 2027. (

Completely backtracking from our plans and goals. And it isn’t the first time he’s not kept his side of the deal.

Telling me we will manage to raise a family in the flat. When I ask him how or what the plan is? His answer is just simply “we’ll manage”

OP posts:
Tinseltotties · 16/07/2025 09:40

He’s very keen to keep things ‘fair’ in what he’s getting but not at all arsed in what you’re getting. Having a baby with this man would be insanity. He’s broken all your agreements, kept you at arms length in the relationship, he isn’t a partner and then he’s given you an ultimatum he didn’t even mean. Run.

Tinseltotties · 16/07/2025 09:42

Shs726 · 16/07/2025 09:35

Yes, we don’t have to have own three properties.

But the issue recently stemmed from him issuing an ultimatum that he wants kids now. Instead of what we agreed, to have one child and try in 2027. (

Completely backtracking from our plans and goals. And it isn’t the first time he’s not kept his side of the deal.

Telling me we will manage to raise a family in the flat. When I ask him how or what the plan is? His answer is just simply “we’ll manage”

He means you’ll manage, he won’t be doing anything, he’s not planning for it because it’s not really his problem. you’ll be using your savings, damaging your body and career and you’ll still be doing all the housework and childcare because you’re part time. He’ll just keep going to work and his life won’t change much. He’s in his 40s he’s not going to grow up.

Catwalking · 16/07/2025 09:46

Looked @ purely from a breeding pov, do you really want your child/ren to have 1/2 genes from him…(I truly wish I’d been made to think of this for my children)?

As DH is so immature, I don’t suppose he’s factored such things as mental/ physical illness & hasn’t the slightest idea what/how his ’friends’ organise their finances: “they managed”, what the hell is that?!

Ilady · 16/07/2025 10:01

With this man it's all about him and what he wants. You were in a financially better position when he met you and already owned a house. He wanted to own his own home. He decided to buy a one bed flat in London despite telling you that he wanted a family.
You have been paying the bills in his apartment but put nothing towards the actual mortgage. You have been saving hard as well. Your also doing the majority of the cooking and cleaning despite working more hours than him including night work.

Meanwhile he has not over paid his mortgage. He wanted a better car and got one rather than paying more towards his mortgage or upping his savings. Meanwhile you have an old car because you prefer to save money towards your goals. In fact due to moving into this one bed apartment and paying the bills not mortgage you have enabled him to have more money each month.

So he is 43 and wants a baby now despite you both planning to wait till 2027.
He wants a baby in a one bed flat and has not mentioned looking for a family home yet. He is coming home and telling you the x or y have child and they manage as sahm. The reality is they mange is because there husbands work hard, have savings built up and already owed family homes probably for a few years before they had kids. I know couples with kids and it hard going even if one or both people have good jobs.

My feeling is that he like the idea of kids but has no idea of the reality of having a baby and the work involved in raising kids not to mention the costs of raising a child either. He wants a child now because his friends are probably all father's and they don't have time to see him as much.
He wants to be able to say he has a child and be the same as the rest of his friends and co workers.
A one bed apartment does not work for someone who wants a family. He also expects that you will go part time but does not seem to realise if this happens your income will drop and you both will have the cost of childcare and you're all going to need a bigger home also.

At this stage I would gather up all your and his financial information and get a solicitors advice re a divorce. You need to protect your savings. I would not have a child with him for any amount of money. He has shown you who he is and if you got pregnant and had a child with him you will be stuck in that 1 bed apt with a toddler when he is enjoying life in London.

Comtesse · 16/07/2025 10:06

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 16/07/2025 00:36

Also, I am not sympathetic to DH when op works far more hours and does way more cooking and cleaning- he's a lazy user

Right! And he doesn’t save and he guilt trips OP about his friends’ wives who have loads of kids and don’t work. Fool. Who is supposed to pay for all these kids??

Why should OP do the financial (and practical) heavy lifting for a baby she isn’t even massively bothered about?

bipbopdo · 16/07/2025 10:09

The man is deluded. He only feels confident enough to say “we’ll manage” because you’ve been breaking your back trying to make all his flights of fancy work. He belittles your contribution now, while you’re financially independent. What do you think will happen when you have to drop to part-time?

Also, he’s already telling you that he admires SAHMs. If you give in now, I can guarantee the next thing he’ll want is for you to give up work completely.

ShakeNvacStevens · 16/07/2025 10:27

OP you seem to be avoiding any questions as to what his redeeming features are, are you worried that you won't be able to name many/any?

OohhhhhBigStretch · 16/07/2025 10:30

I love these people who day ‘we’ll manage’ when asked how things will work. My ex used to use that exact line.

‘how will we pay this big mortgage if we move’ - oh we’ll manage

‘how will we be financially if I become a SAHP - oh we’ll manage

other favourites of his we’re ‘ we’ll find the money of needed’

What I realised was, what he actually should have said is ‘OohhhhhBigStretch will find a way’ ‘OohhhhhBigStretch will work more hours’ ‘OohhhhhBigStretch is paying into a pension so we will use that in retirement’ ‘OohhhhhBigStretch’s job is flexible so she can do all the drop offs and pick ups from school’ ‘OohhhhhBigStretch can work from home so will do the lions share of housework’

all of the above even though I was the higher earner. He pretty much meant ‘OohhhhhBigStretch will sort it all out, do it all, whilst I free wheel through life and let her make my wants and needs come true’

Trickedbyadoughnut · 16/07/2025 10:30

He denigrates you, compares you unfavourably to other people, is a cocklodger financially and let's you take on all the domestic tasks, doesn't respect the boundaries you've clearly set (one child, setting a date, setting financial goals to get there), he decides he wants a holiday so you have to work overtime ...

He seems to have done a lot to wear you down but you're still outearning him. I'd say he needs you to have one or more children so that you're nicely worn down by domesticity, childcare and lesser income so he'll finally have the upper hand and you'll be trapped.

I'd say he later apologised cause he realised he'd ruffled the feathers of the golden goose.

I mean, I know you must be in a boiled frog situation here @Shs726 but you are so much better than this - you deserve so much more. I hope this thread gives you some clarity on how bad this really is.

DuchessOfNarcissex · 16/07/2025 11:10

@OohhhhhBigStretch , yet you divorced this genius?

insomniaclife · 16/07/2025 11:39

Oh my god he’s awful. Absolutely awful.

OohhhhhBigStretch · 16/07/2025 11:40

DuchessOfNarcissex · 16/07/2025 11:10

@OohhhhhBigStretch , yet you divorced this genius?

And I kept all my pension Grin

DuchessOfNarcissex · 16/07/2025 11:42

Good on you @OohhhhhBigStretch ! You did well.

IVbumble · 16/07/2025 12:10

He's completely utterly jealous of what everyone else has so he'll never be happy with what he has - I don't think he even knows what he wants - apart from an easy life funded & managed by someone else.

You deserve an equal partner OP - not this pathetic sponger.

thepariscrimefiles · 16/07/2025 12:14

Shs726 · 16/07/2025 09:03

Thank you. Marriage is indeed about compromise.

The plan we made and the income/savings we have, allow us to purchase a family home without selling any of the existing properties.
I kept my side of the deal by saving and investing to pay for the next house.
Again, the need for a family house is purely because my husband wanted a child (now, children).

Another reason, I don’t want to sell my property is because it is a BTL. The CGT on that is quite a bit and I rather not pay it and keep the place. Especially, as it’s an investment. He wouldn’t sell his place, especially if I don’t sell mine. As he only got it in the first place as his investment because I already had an investment property.

yes, if we weren’t in a position to afford/save an additional house, we would sell. But tbh, the way things have been between us, I don’t see its worth me risking it.

Honestly, I'd leave him sooner rather than later. At 3 years' duration, your marriage would be considered a 'short marriage' in relation to the distribution of marital assets.

Considering he is much older than you, he seems extremely immature and selfish. He would definitely be a 'Disney' dad, everything for show but no practical help.

LittlleMy · 16/07/2025 12:20

@Shs726 wow for someone relatively young, no overwhelming desire to have children and in such a powerful economical position already - the world really is your oyster!

It really does appear that your partner needs you more than you need them. They seem immature and unwilling to face up to reality - even if it’s to explain bringing their own plans to fruition.

All I know is in your place, I would absolutely just break free of this person and set up alone where I could 24/7 just prioritise myself. You work hard, earn well and I’d just enjoy my youth alone or with someone more compatible.

Goldbar · 16/07/2025 12:27

OohhhhhBigStretch · 16/07/2025 10:30

I love these people who day ‘we’ll manage’ when asked how things will work. My ex used to use that exact line.

‘how will we pay this big mortgage if we move’ - oh we’ll manage

‘how will we be financially if I become a SAHP - oh we’ll manage

other favourites of his we’re ‘ we’ll find the money of needed’

What I realised was, what he actually should have said is ‘OohhhhhBigStretch will find a way’ ‘OohhhhhBigStretch will work more hours’ ‘OohhhhhBigStretch is paying into a pension so we will use that in retirement’ ‘OohhhhhBigStretch’s job is flexible so she can do all the drop offs and pick ups from school’ ‘OohhhhhBigStretch can work from home so will do the lions share of housework’

all of the above even though I was the higher earner. He pretty much meant ‘OohhhhhBigStretch will sort it all out, do it all, whilst I free wheel through life and let her make my wants and needs come true’

This. He means you'll manage.

Tell him you're not interested in managing, thank you very much.

holrosea · 16/07/2025 12:42

OP, my alarm bells started ringing way before you got to the part where you married him.

He only wanted a flat because you already had one - what was stopping him while living in his parents' spare house? He referred to it as a safety net. He ignored your sensible advice about size and location. He has not held up his end of the bargain with regards to overpaying his mortgage or replenishing savings. And unless you have some pretty cast iron legal agreements in place, if/when you separate, he could be taking half of your savings with you.

You mention that you have legal agreements in place - personally I would be getting some legal advice on how watertight these are as pre- and post-nups are not legally binding in England, they are more like a statement of intent. Even if your properties are ringfenced, your savings/pensions might not be.

Also, the cynic in me suspects that he had a rough idea of what he was doing. He lived in his parents' house, found someone financially savvy and hardworking, agreed a plan that only you stuck to, and is now piling on the pressure for kids which:

  1. if you give in, will tie you to him forever. He either can't support a family as he is promising, or he'll push you back to FT work as his cash cow and pretend he's the primary carer, or
  2. if you hold fast, will create such an irresolvable disagreement that you'll have to leave. He'll get a nice cushy settlement from you sticking to the "joint" savings plan.

In your place, I'd cut my losses. Get legal advice, separate and divorce as best you can, and consider it a lucky escape from a life with someone who does not see you as an equal.

Sodthesystem · 16/07/2025 12:43

I ammended my prior statement about him going to become abusive. He's already abusive.

And you have been shrinking yourself for years. Hoping that if you just make yourself small enough, he will stop turning everything into a competition or an argument.

That's not going to happen.

He's a wrong'un. Please see it and get yourself out to safety. There's nothing in this world that we should dull our shine for. A partner should make us feel safe, safe to strive and grow. They should lift us up and be proud of our achievements.

He, is an enemy. Who turns you into his competition and wishes to make you small and trap you into servitude.

It's good that you've been earning. Make sure your money is in an account he cannot access. Then get divorce proceedings going. I suspect they will be favourable to you. Either way though, get out of there.

Sodthesystem · 16/07/2025 12:49

And please don't let assets keep you tied to a bad man.

Your life, happiness and youth are far more valuable than money. If you stay years more then you could be giving up the time you have left to find a nice partner and have kids. IF you want them that is. But even if not - might it not still be worth taking a financial hit so as not to spend your youth on a man who obviously doesn't nt love anyone but himself? What do you think you'd regret more in a decade - taking a financial hit on the house or wasting years of your life with some asshole?

It's only money. You earn lots anyway so can recoup. But time, you cannot get back.
Don't let him waste any more of your time.

AcrossthePond55 · 16/07/2025 13:03

@Shs726

Read back your posts. You are supporting HIS dream. What about yours? I don't see anything in this for you. Yet you would be the one providing the wherewithal (for his dream), going through pregnancy and childbirth (for his dream), give up your financial security by going part time (for his dream), and doing all the hard work of raising a child (for his dream). Meanwhile he'll flit here and there being Fun Daddy portraying himself as such a wonderful 'family man' to all and sundry. And all the while pressurizing you to repeat all you're doing so as to provide him with more children (for his dream). And to top it all off, based on his past performances, you'll be criticized for not doing it 'like his friends' wives.

Meanwhile, any dreams you have had will be circling the drain.

Is this really worth it to keep a marriage to a man who really doesn't value you for who you are, only for who he wants you to be?

NotOldYet · 16/07/2025 13:11

Tbh, I don't see what's in it for you.
You seem to be creating (and mostly funding) a perfect life for your husband but not considering your own wants and needs.

He wants an investment property, fancy car and holidays, and nice family home (tbf he doesn't seem that fussed about this one), 2.4 children and a wife that cooks and cleans for him. But he's not actually prepared to create this for himself, its also your job to do all of that. Hes not living in the real world.

The only reason to have children, imo, is because you really want them and would love them. Not to fulfil someone else's dream.

Let him go and fulfil that dream elsewhere, and try to entangle yourself financially while the marriage is still fairly new - or you'll find yourself funding his life post divorce too.

Sodthesystem · 16/07/2025 13:15

NotOldYet · 16/07/2025 13:11

Tbh, I don't see what's in it for you.
You seem to be creating (and mostly funding) a perfect life for your husband but not considering your own wants and needs.

He wants an investment property, fancy car and holidays, and nice family home (tbf he doesn't seem that fussed about this one), 2.4 children and a wife that cooks and cleans for him. But he's not actually prepared to create this for himself, its also your job to do all of that. Hes not living in the real world.

The only reason to have children, imo, is because you really want them and would love them. Not to fulfil someone else's dream.

Let him go and fulfil that dream elsewhere, and try to entangle yourself financially while the marriage is still fairly new - or you'll find yourself funding his life post divorce too.

Totally agree apart from with 'hes not living in the real world's. Unfortunately he is. A world where brilliant women bend over backwords for sub-par men who treat them like shit.

Time to start changing that world.

RosaMundi27 · 16/07/2025 13:42

Before making any decisions you really need to nail down exactly where his income is going. If it's being spent mostly on himself and his investment, rather than savings for your shared future and family, then that's your answer - he childish and selfish and won't change.

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