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Husband putting pressure on having children yet has no plan

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Shs726 · 15/07/2025 21:19

We have been together 8 years and married for 3. No children.

Age. I am 33 and DH 43

When we first met, we discussed children. He told me he did want children but only after marriage. I told him I’m not totally against having children but I’m not fussed if I didn’t have any. I also stated, if I did, I only wanted one.

We didn’t live together whilst we dated. Our plan was that we would buy a house together and live there once married.
I already owned a house which I was renting out. He was living at his parent’s spare home. As we set our wedding date and look at houses to buy, he changed his mind.

He wanted to buy a property on his own name with his own money as a safety net because he claimed I already had my own safety net. (Even though I purchased my house before ever meeting him).

When he was looking for a place, he found a one bedroom flat in London. I did advise him at the time, maybe look for something bigger or just on the outskirts of London. Again, he was adamant the place be in London as my property is in London and he wants the same safety net/investment. And that his plan was we would live in it for 4/5 years, then he’ll rent it out and we could purchase our forever house. At the time, I did question him how was all this possible?

I remember we sat down and went through our finances and put everything on a spreadsheet. We spent hours on this. We came up with a plan. That he would overpay his mortgage (as he was lucky to get really low interest rate). And utilise the rest of our savings. Afterr getting married we would continue to save and keep our outgoings low.

We got married. I moved into flat. Although I don’t pay towards the mortgage (as the flat is his investment) , I do pay for other bills and all our holidays. I also don’t ask him for any money and pay for my own upkeep. (Our finances are separate). Also the property I already own, I continue to overpay the mortgage and also pay for any maintenance/costs associated with the house.

Now I do earn a decent wage and also have passive income. Due to that, after bills and costs, I do save around £4K a month towards getting our next house. In the 3 years we have been married, my husband has not overpaid any of his mortgage as agreed. Nor has he made any substantial savings. Which is surprising, as after bills, he should have quite a bit left over. (He also earns decent).
Also I’m very hands on at home. I do all the cooking and most of the chores. I also work more hours than him at work. Average 50/55hrs a week in comparison to his 35hr week. I also have to do night shifts every other week. He doesn’t.

In regard to having kids, we’ve had this discussion many times. Where I’ve said, I’m not raising a family in one bedroom flat. And also I would have to go part time, so naturally would take a significant pay cut. Plus costs would go up as there would be a child.
So we agreed on 2 years time we would try for a baby and only have one child. We planned in two years time, we would have saved enough (tbh 95% of the savings come from me and I earn more than husband), and hopefully some of my investments would come through in order to purchase our next house. He’s also very adamant the house be in London.

Out of nowhere, he’s now putting pressure on me to have a baby now as he’s not going to wait. He also wants multiple children. He basically said if I didn’t, we should separate. I agreed, that we should separate. I wasn’t going to cave into his ultimatum and didn’t appreciate the aggressive tone he was speaking to me.

Then he tried to argue. I said be realistic, how are we going to raise a family in a one bedroom?

He tells me the world manages so will we. When I ask him but what’s the plan?
He has no answer other than “we’ll manage”.

When I remind him, it was him who made the choice of getting a one bedroom, he made the choice of not getting a house together years ago, he made the choice of living in London, and he’s the one who didn’t save towards our future house as planned, so what exactly is “we’ll manage”. And I reminded him why did he wait years to propose then? Why did he wait until his 40s to get married and now panicking he’ll be an old dad. Why not get married in his 20s or 30s?

His reaction: get angry and swear. Rather than own his actions and decisions he made.

As I know the burden will fall on me. I also remind him once the baby is here, I won’t be able to pay as much towards the bills nor save as my salary will drop plus baby costs. He says he’ll pay for me and the child. But I don’t believe him, as he barely manages to save now despite me contributing a lot.

Then he start comparing me to his friends wives. Saying XYZ wife don’t work, they have 6 kids. Another XYZ wife she doesn’t work, they have 2 kids they manage, so why can’t we?

It’s frustrating that he’s dismissed everything I have done for this marriage. And also saving for a bigger house to raise a family that ultimately is his dream more than mine.

Finally I said it’s hurtful that he’s known me for 8 years and dismissed everything I’ve done and how I’ve supported his goals. But I’m not going to be bullied into having a child now when we agreed 2027 we would try for a baby. And if we need to part ways then so be it. He can find someone else and start his family.

Hours later, he apologised and hugged me. But I feel so different towards him now. I’m also now convinced if we were to have children, the burden of most of the childcare would fall on me. And I’m sure if I stopped contributing financially/saving, he’d still have a problem with me.

Where to go from this?

OP posts:
Lurker85 · 16/07/2025 07:56

So this spoiled little prince dictates what he wants and then sits back and lets you make it happen? Does he stomp his feet and throw himself on the floor as well?

I want to live in london (you agree to)
i want a one bedroom flat (you essentially pay half for by contributing over the odds)
I want more holidays (you’ve had to save for)
I want a child (you have to bear)
I want a child NOW (you have to bear NOW)
I want you to work part time when we have one (you have to give up your career which brings in more money than his does)

If he wants a child he can save the money for a big house, he can go part time.

he wants more holidays? He should save up not you

You seem like a lovely, intelligent woman. Please run for the hills so you don’t waste any more of your life and money being somebody else’s support character and financier ❤️

MySweetGeorgina · 16/07/2025 08:02

Your DH has been using you to help him set up s as financial security net for himself

the entire set up you live in is to benefit HIM

it does not sound good or like s as real partnership

he is looking out for number one

Duckswaddle · 16/07/2025 08:06

You’ll never win with him love, he’s clearly intimidated by you and whatever you do won’t be enough.

Fundamentally you’re not right for each other so leave.

LardyandMardy · 16/07/2025 08:09

You’ve wasted 8 years of your life on this loser. Don’t waste a second more and certainly don’t have children with him. Hopefully it will be a quick and easy divorce.

Also I would say if you’re inclined not to have children don’t be pressured into it by anyone, you will regret it.

MascaraGirl · 16/07/2025 08:10

I don't see the point in struggling for space with a child in a one-bed property, if you don't have to be so cramped. Yes, many people manage - but that's because they have no better choice.

Eddielizzard · 16/07/2025 08:10

Comparison is the thief of joy, and your DH is a perfect example of this.

He's always looking at how much better OTHER people could make his life, never thinking about how much better HE could make his life.

This won't change, it's who he is. You can set up all sorts of ultimatums that he'll either manage or won't, but fundamentally this won't change.

If I were you I would leave. It's the sunk cost fallacy, and spending more time on this waste who doesn't contribute nearly enough will just waste your time.

tooloololoo · 16/07/2025 08:15

Red flag
leave

nomas · 16/07/2025 08:31

Shs726 · 15/07/2025 21:49

I also said I agreed to one child from the start. Now all a sudden he wants multiple. But I appreciate people can change their minds and he’s entitled to that.

but for someone who was so determined on wanting kids, why did he chose to buy a one bedroom property? Why not buy a bigger place back then or buy a house with me? He had those options back then.

We don’t have three. We have two properties between us. Looking to buy a third. Wr can’t live in mine as it’s BTL and plus tenant in there with a fixed term tenancy.

Yes, I am saying 4K a month towards getting a bigger place to ultimately raise a child which is more his dream than mine.
Personally, I don’t feel comfortable raising family in a one bedroom. As one day the child/children will need their own room.

Also if I did get pregnant now, getting a bigger house would be even hard in the future. Especially in London, as husband doesn’t want to leave London. 1) having a dependant 2) me going part time and taking a pay cut isn’t going to help the situation

Edited

I would use your savings to over pay on your mortgage to the max.

Don’t let him half your savings.

Epidote · 16/07/2025 08:33

Divorce him, do it now that you don't have anything in common. Don't wait.

skinnyoptionsonly · 16/07/2025 08:33

It doesn’t sound like you have matching values in many areas.

raising a child is hard. It doesn’t bring couples together. The opposite.
If he’s being like this over housing, it doesn’t bode well for collaborative parenting.

I don’t ever say LTB and I’m not but I’d be considering my options before having a child with him run for the hills

Glowingup · 16/07/2025 08:34

If you do have a prenup or post up, they are given a lot of weight (even if not strictly contractually binding in this country). You have to have a really good reason why the prenup shouldn’t be stuck to (ie that it produces an unfair result) so well done that you protected your assets. If you divorce now, you should be fine.

DrowningInSyrup · 16/07/2025 08:36

Ugh well this isn't going to work is it. Give notice to your tenant and get ready to leave.

JJWT · 16/07/2025 08:38

Shs726 · 15/07/2025 21:43

We already have legal agreements in place. He would have his property and I would have mine. Any savings, we would split accordingly.

Seems very unfair if most of the savings are from your wages.

usedtobeaylis · 16/07/2025 08:48

Good point about the assumption the OP will be the one to go part time despite being the higher earner.

jenny38 · 16/07/2025 08:49

Marriage is about compromise at times. I can understand you both wanting to protect your assets, at the start of the relationship. However you both need to think about what's important. Having a child requires a lot of team work and sharing.
You don't even know if you will be able to have children yet. Having a child totally changes your life and priorities. You can definitely manage in a 1 bed flat for first 6 months or so. But longer term, why don't you sell both properties and buy a family home? As for going part time, no reason why it has to be you. Or you could both drop a day etc. I think need to be thinking more "us" and less individually, if this marriage and future is what you both want.

Doorwayss · 16/07/2025 08:58

He later apologised because he showed his hand and went too far.

He is a bully, a user, and is screwing you.

Move out of the flat, take ALL YOUR SAVINGS and set yourself up elsewhere while you divorce his arse.

He is a lazy user.
Men like him get worse after a baby NEVER better.

Don't kid yourself.

Don't waste anymore years on him.
Get legal advice and get out.
Your gut is warning you and trying to protect you.

Do not have a child with this selfish waster.

Doorwayss · 16/07/2025 09:00

Oh and if you have even the slightest hesitation about having children, do not do it.
It is 10 times harder that you can ever imagine.
Even harder with a lazy selfish man.

User37482 · 16/07/2025 09:02

Just leave OP, you will be sorted, leave the dunce to pay for his own holidays. He wants kids because you will be stuck cleaning up after him and looking after a child and paying for all of you to live while he feathers his own nest.

He’s just eroding your confidence and trying to wear you down.

You don’t even want a child, why are you doing this!?

Shs726 · 16/07/2025 09:03

jenny38 · 16/07/2025 08:49

Marriage is about compromise at times. I can understand you both wanting to protect your assets, at the start of the relationship. However you both need to think about what's important. Having a child requires a lot of team work and sharing.
You don't even know if you will be able to have children yet. Having a child totally changes your life and priorities. You can definitely manage in a 1 bed flat for first 6 months or so. But longer term, why don't you sell both properties and buy a family home? As for going part time, no reason why it has to be you. Or you could both drop a day etc. I think need to be thinking more "us" and less individually, if this marriage and future is what you both want.

Thank you. Marriage is indeed about compromise.

The plan we made and the income/savings we have, allow us to purchase a family home without selling any of the existing properties.
I kept my side of the deal by saving and investing to pay for the next house.
Again, the need for a family house is purely because my husband wanted a child (now, children).

Another reason, I don’t want to sell my property is because it is a BTL. The CGT on that is quite a bit and I rather not pay it and keep the place. Especially, as it’s an investment. He wouldn’t sell his place, especially if I don’t sell mine. As he only got it in the first place as his investment because I already had an investment property.

yes, if we weren’t in a position to afford/save an additional house, we would sell. But tbh, the way things have been between us, I don’t see its worth me risking it.

OP posts:
User37482 · 16/07/2025 09:04

Yes don’t risk your position, go get a divorce, he’s holding you back and he’s lazy.

dontcryformeargentina · 16/07/2025 09:05

I absolutely agree with @Doorwayss. you are just a tool to use for him- no love, no respect

MsJemimaPuddleDuck · 16/07/2025 09:10

Leave. Considering your not overly fussed about having kids and he wants to push you into having mutiple, considering hes not done anything he promised.. leave or this will become a nightmare for you.

Everythingisokay · 16/07/2025 09:13

If you both want to stay together and work through your issues, the logical decision here is to sell the flat and buy a house together.
You don't have to own three properties between yourselves in London, which is what you're aiming for and it's throwing a spanner in the works.

ShakeNvacStevens · 16/07/2025 09:15

OrangeAndPistachio · 16/07/2025 07:35

I'm struggling to see what he brings to your relationship op. If it's that he's nice , well most people are nice when they get everything they want. You've had a taste of how he flips when he's told no. The way people behave when they don't get the answer they want is very telling of their motivation and general attitude.

Edited

This is spot on.

OP why are you with him? I genuinely don't understand what positives he brings? There's a 10 year age gap between me and my DH but we met when I was 36 so there wasn't an imbalance - had you had much relationship experience at 25 or were you busy focussing on building your career? What was his relationship history at 35? Because such an obviously smart woman shouldn't be putting up with his shit.

Chazbots · 16/07/2025 09:16

Someone I know is currently divorcing her husband after 32 years. She had the 3 kids, was the main breadwinner & did all the housework.

She was in a very bad place but has left & is slowly waking up to the insanity of chasing her tail for most of her adult life trying to make a demanding bloke happy.

She gives herself a fairly hard time for not recognising the issues sooner.

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