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Husband putting pressure on having children yet has no plan

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Shs726 · 15/07/2025 21:19

We have been together 8 years and married for 3. No children.

Age. I am 33 and DH 43

When we first met, we discussed children. He told me he did want children but only after marriage. I told him I’m not totally against having children but I’m not fussed if I didn’t have any. I also stated, if I did, I only wanted one.

We didn’t live together whilst we dated. Our plan was that we would buy a house together and live there once married.
I already owned a house which I was renting out. He was living at his parent’s spare home. As we set our wedding date and look at houses to buy, he changed his mind.

He wanted to buy a property on his own name with his own money as a safety net because he claimed I already had my own safety net. (Even though I purchased my house before ever meeting him).

When he was looking for a place, he found a one bedroom flat in London. I did advise him at the time, maybe look for something bigger or just on the outskirts of London. Again, he was adamant the place be in London as my property is in London and he wants the same safety net/investment. And that his plan was we would live in it for 4/5 years, then he’ll rent it out and we could purchase our forever house. At the time, I did question him how was all this possible?

I remember we sat down and went through our finances and put everything on a spreadsheet. We spent hours on this. We came up with a plan. That he would overpay his mortgage (as he was lucky to get really low interest rate). And utilise the rest of our savings. Afterr getting married we would continue to save and keep our outgoings low.

We got married. I moved into flat. Although I don’t pay towards the mortgage (as the flat is his investment) , I do pay for other bills and all our holidays. I also don’t ask him for any money and pay for my own upkeep. (Our finances are separate). Also the property I already own, I continue to overpay the mortgage and also pay for any maintenance/costs associated with the house.

Now I do earn a decent wage and also have passive income. Due to that, after bills and costs, I do save around £4K a month towards getting our next house. In the 3 years we have been married, my husband has not overpaid any of his mortgage as agreed. Nor has he made any substantial savings. Which is surprising, as after bills, he should have quite a bit left over. (He also earns decent).
Also I’m very hands on at home. I do all the cooking and most of the chores. I also work more hours than him at work. Average 50/55hrs a week in comparison to his 35hr week. I also have to do night shifts every other week. He doesn’t.

In regard to having kids, we’ve had this discussion many times. Where I’ve said, I’m not raising a family in one bedroom flat. And also I would have to go part time, so naturally would take a significant pay cut. Plus costs would go up as there would be a child.
So we agreed on 2 years time we would try for a baby and only have one child. We planned in two years time, we would have saved enough (tbh 95% of the savings come from me and I earn more than husband), and hopefully some of my investments would come through in order to purchase our next house. He’s also very adamant the house be in London.

Out of nowhere, he’s now putting pressure on me to have a baby now as he’s not going to wait. He also wants multiple children. He basically said if I didn’t, we should separate. I agreed, that we should separate. I wasn’t going to cave into his ultimatum and didn’t appreciate the aggressive tone he was speaking to me.

Then he tried to argue. I said be realistic, how are we going to raise a family in a one bedroom?

He tells me the world manages so will we. When I ask him but what’s the plan?
He has no answer other than “we’ll manage”.

When I remind him, it was him who made the choice of getting a one bedroom, he made the choice of not getting a house together years ago, he made the choice of living in London, and he’s the one who didn’t save towards our future house as planned, so what exactly is “we’ll manage”. And I reminded him why did he wait years to propose then? Why did he wait until his 40s to get married and now panicking he’ll be an old dad. Why not get married in his 20s or 30s?

His reaction: get angry and swear. Rather than own his actions and decisions he made.

As I know the burden will fall on me. I also remind him once the baby is here, I won’t be able to pay as much towards the bills nor save as my salary will drop plus baby costs. He says he’ll pay for me and the child. But I don’t believe him, as he barely manages to save now despite me contributing a lot.

Then he start comparing me to his friends wives. Saying XYZ wife don’t work, they have 6 kids. Another XYZ wife she doesn’t work, they have 2 kids they manage, so why can’t we?

It’s frustrating that he’s dismissed everything I have done for this marriage. And also saving for a bigger house to raise a family that ultimately is his dream more than mine.

Finally I said it’s hurtful that he’s known me for 8 years and dismissed everything I’ve done and how I’ve supported his goals. But I’m not going to be bullied into having a child now when we agreed 2027 we would try for a baby. And if we need to part ways then so be it. He can find someone else and start his family.

Hours later, he apologised and hugged me. But I feel so different towards him now. I’m also now convinced if we were to have children, the burden of most of the childcare would fall on me. And I’m sure if I stopped contributing financially/saving, he’d still have a problem with me.

Where to go from this?

OP posts:
whynotmereally · 16/07/2025 03:39

@Shs726ypu sound like an amazing wife and he sounds like a mediocre husband. He compares you negatively to friends wives keep you feeling lacking in some way because he knows you are more successful than him.

He apologised because you agreed to split up and he doesn’t want that, he wanted to threaten divorce to get you to do what he wanted, he didn’t expect you to agree!

BruFord · 16/07/2025 03:50

I’m gobsmacked that he’s 43, he sounds so immature. He wants a family but hasn’t saved towards a house or made any real plans as to how you’ll organize family life financially or practically. Now he wants a new car??

He sounds like a child wanting new shiny toys, not a middle-aged man.

Dunnowotot · 16/07/2025 03:51

Shs726 · 16/07/2025 03:31

Tbh I did get the impression that he tries to compete with me. But then I didn’t let the thought dominate my mind as I didn’t want any negative feelings. From his desire to all of a sudden have his own investment property to remarks he makes about my salary and how easy I have life.

I work so many hours as I’m trying to earn as much so we can achieve the dreams of 1) getting a bigger place quicker.

I also do more chores at home as in all honestly I’ve just become defeated. For long time, I wasn’t happy with how I was doing most of the chores. It led to many repetitive arguments. Ultimately, I gave up. Tbh to him, he has improved a lot compared to the start. Before he rarely did any chores. Now he does more but not anywhere near 50/50. I just accepted I’ll have to do more chores for the sake of keeping a peaceful marriage.

but in all honestly, no matter how much I try or sacrifices I make, it seems like he always has something to use against me. Some problem he will have against me. Something he’ll find.

At the start, it was buying property we live in. He wouldn’t listen to my advice that buying 1 bedroom flat isn’t a long term plan unless he has another back up. That caused drama at the time. Which we eventually resolved by coming up with a plan. (Which he didn’t stick to anyway).

Then there was the case of chores. Ultimately I accepted he’s began to do more and it’s better than before and for the sake of peace… just let it be.

Then there was the case of talking about how his other friends do so much holidays and how he really needs one. So I start working extra hours to save more towards holidays without jeopardising house saving goals. (During which time, I would work 72hrs a week). Again, I start planning 2-3 holidays a year. Not cheap holidays too.

He throws subtle hints about wanting a new car. Personally, I think it’s silly to buy a new car when he barely drives (1-2k miles a year) and we already have two cars between us. One day I confronted him that why would you want a new car when I thought plan was to save towards our house? His answer was “I’m not asking you to pay for it”. But he misses the point, that the money whether he or I spend on a new car could go towards our house? Especially as we dont need a car and there’s nothing wrong with the ones we have.
Also, I still drive my 15 year old car because it does the job. But again I said it’s up to him. As I don’t want drama.

Then he’ll compare me to his friends wives. They are great women and I appreciate raising a family isn’t easy and they are amazing mothers. I have a lot of respect for them. But I’m not them? I made it clear from the start, I wasn’t super maternal and wasn’t fussed about kids. And the wives he compares me to, don’t work and their husband’s provide for them. So why isn’t he comparing himself to his friends who are the sole breadwinners? I also ensure I cook for him. I keep the house clean. I do the “domesticated” duties. I invite his family and friends over and host dinner parties. I also get my husband with gifts regularly. I try make him happy.

but he always finds something.
now all a sudden wanting multiple kids now and giving me an ultimatum.

im just tired of it all. I’m also curious why he later apologised.

Op, with this man you can't win. Honestly. You will NEVER be good enough, work hard enough, have it tough enough, make enough money. Once the baby is here there will be a 1000 more things to complain about. Your figure after the baby, your energy levels, your cooking etc etc.. It never ends. 'You've let yourself go. You never said we couldnt afford this, that or the other. All the other families I know do this or that and the wives are amazing and why cant you be like this..."

I was with someone like this. Luckily i really wanted the children we did have, because i finally saw sense after years and im now raising themadnd paying for them all by myself. He pays no maintenance, and he is very clever about avoiding his responsibilities. And guess what the script now is? 'Its all easy for you. Your job is so easy and youre lucky it pays so much. I am not giving you anything. You were lucky i looked after you when pregnant. You did nothing all day. Etc etc..
Don't have a baby you dont want just to please him. You will end up looking after him/her at some point on your own. And it's tough, even when you wanted children.

NOTANUM · 16/07/2025 03:52

In 3 years time, should he get his way, you will be posting here that you’re stuck in a 1 bedroom flat with a toddler who needs a bedroom, while working full time, doing all the housework and the lion’s share of the childcare. I say full time as there is no evidence he’ll back you by supporting in going part time.
Perhaps throw in pressure for a 2nd or 3rd.

It’s not the child prospect that is the issue here, it’s the fact that you’re in effect signing up for a solo run as a single parent financially and emotionally.

beetr00 · 16/07/2025 03:53

@Shs726

This is precisely your situation don't you think?

Have courage lovely 🌸

beetr00 · 16/07/2025 04:04

unsure if the link from Tiffany Uman worked so..

Stop making yourself smaller to protect someone else's ego.

Their insecurity ≠ Your responsibility.

Instead, do these 3 things to speak up with confidence

  1. Reframe your mindset. The moment you absorb someone’s discomfort as your own, you’ve already lost. What’s really happening? They feel threatened by you. If others can't handle your strength, that's their problem to fix, not yours.
  1. Show up direct, not defensive. When you're confident, people may call you too much. When you're vague, they call you unclear. Don't edit yourself mid-sentence to cushion others. Say it, own it, and let them react. “Here’s what I believe is the best path forward. Let me explain why.”
  1. Don’t wait for permission. Speak up before you’re invited to. Not when it’s safe, but when it’s necessary. “I’d like to build on that idea and offer a perspective that hasn’t been shared yet.”

Remember, if you sense tension after you speak up, don’t backtrack. Hold the silence and let your words land. That discomfort? That’s growth for them, not just you.

Inyournewdress · 16/07/2025 04:31

I think you both need to move on with your lives separately. You aren’t compatible. This won’t be resolved.

Starlight7080 · 16/07/2025 04:42

Its sounds like you do 90% of everything including the support in every way possible.
And he just does the bare amount to keep you from leaving.
Its very sad as you seem very dedicated to him and your relationship.

Booboobagins · 16/07/2025 04:54

Shs726 · 15/07/2025 21:43

We already have legal agreements in place. He would have his property and I would have mine. Any savings, we would split accordingly.

And yet he doesn't seem to have any savings....

Leave him. You have your head screwed on. I appreciate you love him, so will be hurt by leaving, but he is not respecting you or your wishes.

Truetoself · 16/07/2025 05:11

You have different outlooks in life. Please do not have children with him as this will only become more problematic. Leave and start again.

Usernamenope · 16/07/2025 05:31

OP, for the life of me I can't understand why you are with him.

You seem like a successful, intelligent, young woman. You've managed to buy a house in your 30s, have a very successful job and are capable of doing the domestic duties at the same time. I can only imagine he is insanely handsome which ties you to him because he sounds like a critical, competitive yet incompetent man.

Imagine your future life with a baby together in a 1 bed flat. The baby (then toddler) will be waking you both up every few hours throughout the whole night. Both of you will be horribly sleep deprived with at least one of you still expected to get up for work every morning. You will both be exhausted and for a few years, your sexual life will dwindle. Your finances will take a hit (you will cope but the shock of it after having such a comfortable income will affect you both). Your partner will still be critical of you - he will compare you to those others mothers and will probably resent the lack of extra income you were bringing in. He will possibly have to cut back on the holidays and new car.

How do you feel about the above? Do you genuinely believe he will be a good husband and capable father when you have a child together? Will he suddenly take half the household tasks, child rearing and earn an income (especially when he is 50)?

Only you can say, but never underestimate the difference a baby can make to even stable, happy and equal relationships.

Yellowbirdcage · 16/07/2025 05:38

This is a very modern dilemma. Smart women making decisions based on their own best interests and not subjugating themselves for their men or a family. And you know you would have to do the majority of the work required if you agree to this.
I was similar but had my family because I really really wanted children. I have of course ended up doing it all. No regrets. It’s a decision I made. Would have been great to have a better man to have done it with but the pickings are slim.
What you want is important and is not lesser than what he wants. You don’t want that baby enough so I’d go your own way. You can keep your focussed life and career and have peace and money and less housework.
Get used to other people droning on about selfish woman and cats and wine though.

arcticpandas · 16/07/2025 05:47

Shs726 · 15/07/2025 21:43

We already have legal agreements in place. He would have his property and I would have mine. Any savings, we would split accordingly.

He would get 50% of YOUR savings. So you have been frugal while he's been spending and then he'll get half of yours. If you leave him first take out your savings and hide under the matress (metaphorically). You are already doing all the housework while working longer hours- this will get a hundred times worse when you have children. Please don't- atleast not with him!

Toddlergirly · 16/07/2025 06:03

You’re 33 so you don’t have loads of time to wait and if you wait a few more years, you’ll be in your late 30s and may find it very difficult to conceive or you might not at all. Your husband will be grandad age. I would be angry if I married someone who kept putting off having children. However, it’s ridiculous he wants to raise a child in a one bed flat. How big is your property? Your job isn’t suitable for a parent either as 50 hours is a lot.

Bikergran · 16/07/2025 06:05

He has made it blatantly clear that he is irresponsible and incapable of planning ahead. You are very fortunate to have your own income, which means you can be independent. Move most of your savings into your property as a lump sum payment or whatever so it is no longer available for him to get his hands on. Do this first, then see a solicitor.

Mere1 · 16/07/2025 06:05

Tiswa · 15/07/2025 21:21

Leave

I totally agree.

657904I · 16/07/2025 06:12

He wants a housewife, you threaten his idea of a perfect marriage (ie what his mates have). He’s basically moving towards doing a 180 on you.

By the way, I just can’t make sense of the one bed thing. Even when I lived alone in London, I had a 2 bed minimum to have space for an office/hobbies/extra wardrobe space/guests. To then have Two adults in a one bedroom place just seems unnecessarily tight. I appreciate it might be a large place, but I just don’t think there’s much flexibility there regardless of having children.

Glowingup · 16/07/2025 06:19

Toddlergirly · 16/07/2025 06:03

You’re 33 so you don’t have loads of time to wait and if you wait a few more years, you’ll be in your late 30s and may find it very difficult to conceive or you might not at all. Your husband will be grandad age. I would be angry if I married someone who kept putting off having children. However, it’s ridiculous he wants to raise a child in a one bed flat. How big is your property? Your job isn’t suitable for a parent either as 50 hours is a lot.

She’s not fussed about having kids so the time thing isn’t that important for her. There seem to be plenty “grandad age” dads, especially in London, so I doubt it will be a huge problem for him. If I were OP I’d leave him and definitely not tie myself to him even more by having a baby that he will barely lift a finger to look after. He sounds awful. What is he bringing to the relationship besides petty jealousy and laziness?

Isthisit22 · 16/07/2025 06:21

Value yourself more. Stop trying to please this man by working 55 hours and still being his maid. You say he then says other people’s wives do more? He’s an abusive POS. Stop being his doormat and leave.
You’d be crazy to add childcare to your list of duties, too.

Dweetfidilove · 16/07/2025 06:33

The man is incapable keeping his promises to himself, let alone to you.

You are bending over backwards doing and paying for all sorts, and he's failed to do anything he needs to.

He's even refusing to buy a home with you, because he has to be even. A home that would house his hypothetical children.

He sounds ridiculous and like he's just using you. First to better his financial situation, then to give him the children he desires.

Let him go!

BellissimoGecko · 16/07/2025 06:39

You can’t trust him, you’re not compatible , he would be a terrible dad. I’d leave.

tara66 · 16/07/2025 06:42

The longer you stay with him the worse your life will be. You don't really want a child and if you have one it seems its caring will all be on you. If you divorce now he could claim 50% of all your assets even with your written agreements. The longer you wait to leave the more you will save and the more he will get potentially. He does seem irrational and immature so what next will he expect of you if you stay?

MeTooOverHere · 16/07/2025 06:48

ConcernedOfClapham · 15/07/2025 21:22

Seconded.

Thirded. Or whatever number we are up to.
Can I ask what culture of origin?
Can I also suggest he has been using your labour and your money to boost his own. Go have a free consult with a lawyer because I think even if you split now, he'd walk away with more than he has contributed. And if you don't walk away now, you will be losing even more in the long term.

OrdinaryGirl · 16/07/2025 06:52

For a whole variety of reasons, this doesn’t seem like a relationship that is good for either of you. The tone of your posts too suggests there isn’t a lot of love lost between you, so I think you know deep down what you need to do.
At 43 he still has plenty of time to meet someone, improve his financial situation, get married and have kids if that’s what he wants.

ResidentPorker · 16/07/2025 06:53

Do NOT rely on him for contraception. Get your own in place and make sure it’s reliable.