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Husband putting pressure on having children yet has no plan

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Shs726 · 15/07/2025 21:19

We have been together 8 years and married for 3. No children.

Age. I am 33 and DH 43

When we first met, we discussed children. He told me he did want children but only after marriage. I told him I’m not totally against having children but I’m not fussed if I didn’t have any. I also stated, if I did, I only wanted one.

We didn’t live together whilst we dated. Our plan was that we would buy a house together and live there once married.
I already owned a house which I was renting out. He was living at his parent’s spare home. As we set our wedding date and look at houses to buy, he changed his mind.

He wanted to buy a property on his own name with his own money as a safety net because he claimed I already had my own safety net. (Even though I purchased my house before ever meeting him).

When he was looking for a place, he found a one bedroom flat in London. I did advise him at the time, maybe look for something bigger or just on the outskirts of London. Again, he was adamant the place be in London as my property is in London and he wants the same safety net/investment. And that his plan was we would live in it for 4/5 years, then he’ll rent it out and we could purchase our forever house. At the time, I did question him how was all this possible?

I remember we sat down and went through our finances and put everything on a spreadsheet. We spent hours on this. We came up with a plan. That he would overpay his mortgage (as he was lucky to get really low interest rate). And utilise the rest of our savings. Afterr getting married we would continue to save and keep our outgoings low.

We got married. I moved into flat. Although I don’t pay towards the mortgage (as the flat is his investment) , I do pay for other bills and all our holidays. I also don’t ask him for any money and pay for my own upkeep. (Our finances are separate). Also the property I already own, I continue to overpay the mortgage and also pay for any maintenance/costs associated with the house.

Now I do earn a decent wage and also have passive income. Due to that, after bills and costs, I do save around £4K a month towards getting our next house. In the 3 years we have been married, my husband has not overpaid any of his mortgage as agreed. Nor has he made any substantial savings. Which is surprising, as after bills, he should have quite a bit left over. (He also earns decent).
Also I’m very hands on at home. I do all the cooking and most of the chores. I also work more hours than him at work. Average 50/55hrs a week in comparison to his 35hr week. I also have to do night shifts every other week. He doesn’t.

In regard to having kids, we’ve had this discussion many times. Where I’ve said, I’m not raising a family in one bedroom flat. And also I would have to go part time, so naturally would take a significant pay cut. Plus costs would go up as there would be a child.
So we agreed on 2 years time we would try for a baby and only have one child. We planned in two years time, we would have saved enough (tbh 95% of the savings come from me and I earn more than husband), and hopefully some of my investments would come through in order to purchase our next house. He’s also very adamant the house be in London.

Out of nowhere, he’s now putting pressure on me to have a baby now as he’s not going to wait. He also wants multiple children. He basically said if I didn’t, we should separate. I agreed, that we should separate. I wasn’t going to cave into his ultimatum and didn’t appreciate the aggressive tone he was speaking to me.

Then he tried to argue. I said be realistic, how are we going to raise a family in a one bedroom?

He tells me the world manages so will we. When I ask him but what’s the plan?
He has no answer other than “we’ll manage”.

When I remind him, it was him who made the choice of getting a one bedroom, he made the choice of not getting a house together years ago, he made the choice of living in London, and he’s the one who didn’t save towards our future house as planned, so what exactly is “we’ll manage”. And I reminded him why did he wait years to propose then? Why did he wait until his 40s to get married and now panicking he’ll be an old dad. Why not get married in his 20s or 30s?

His reaction: get angry and swear. Rather than own his actions and decisions he made.

As I know the burden will fall on me. I also remind him once the baby is here, I won’t be able to pay as much towards the bills nor save as my salary will drop plus baby costs. He says he’ll pay for me and the child. But I don’t believe him, as he barely manages to save now despite me contributing a lot.

Then he start comparing me to his friends wives. Saying XYZ wife don’t work, they have 6 kids. Another XYZ wife she doesn’t work, they have 2 kids they manage, so why can’t we?

It’s frustrating that he’s dismissed everything I have done for this marriage. And also saving for a bigger house to raise a family that ultimately is his dream more than mine.

Finally I said it’s hurtful that he’s known me for 8 years and dismissed everything I’ve done and how I’ve supported his goals. But I’m not going to be bullied into having a child now when we agreed 2027 we would try for a baby. And if we need to part ways then so be it. He can find someone else and start his family.

Hours later, he apologised and hugged me. But I feel so different towards him now. I’m also now convinced if we were to have children, the burden of most of the childcare would fall on me. And I’m sure if I stopped contributing financially/saving, he’d still have a problem with me.

Where to go from this?

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MooseLooseAboutTheHoose · 15/07/2025 23:55

Girl, you’ve got your head way too screwed on to put up with this shit and tie yourself to a man that has not upheld his half of the agreement in your partnership.

You’re already working more than him, saving more than him and doing way more of the domestic duties… come one, you’re obviously a very smart woman, you know this won’t change and you’ll be left holding the baby he wanted. And draining all your savings to support you all.

hoping you can walk away with your property and he with his… but what do you mean the savings will be split accordingly? Please, please tell me this man doesn’t get half of your savings?

Do yourself the biggest favour in your life and walk away from this. I’ll honestly be thinking about you OP, you’re way too smart and accomplished to end up as this man’s incubator, cleaner, cook and sex toy while also supporting him, and his child, financially. This is not a partnership.

Please walk away x

Supersimkin7 · 15/07/2025 23:55

He’s got no intention of supporting his wife or child, or housing anyone - let alone himself.

What a prince.

Shs726 · 16/07/2025 00:26

MyWarmOchreHare · 15/07/2025 22:56

And also I would have to go part time, so naturally would take a significant pay cut

Why would you have to do this?

To look after the child. We both couldn’t work full time and raise a baby at the same time. One of us would have to go part time (even for a bit) and most likely it’ll be me. I’m also open to the idea that I work FT and he goes PT; but I doubt he’d like that.

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Unexpectedlysinglemum · 16/07/2025 00:35

EternalLodga · 15/07/2025 21:27

I'm on DPs side here. If he were a woman, we would be telling him he doesn't have too much time to waste. Men can technically continue having kids later, but their energy levels flag as women's do, and older fathers have been linked to other issues.

I find it sad that so much emphasis here is put on investments and properties and rigid timelines. Who cares about having a kid in a one bed? You have three properties between you for God's sake, if it became unbearable you would just sell one or multiple of your properties and upsize.

So what if you had to go part time and it hampered your income? You're putting 4K into savings every month (!).

You've been tigether for a years, he's been clear he wanted kids from the start. Hes bought a property the way he said he would. He is probably torn between loving you and also realising that he may have wasted some important years with someone who might not ultimately be able to give him what he wants.

Its great you have your head screwed on and are financially literate but I would say there's something a little soulless and rigid about how you are handling all this. If you didnt really want kids, and if now you dont want kids without some convoluted financial infrastructure in place, then cut him free

No, I was that broody woman who put my heart above my financial head and had a baby with a broke man who promised me the world and now I'm part time working, paying all the nursery costs myself, doing all the work for the baby and omg I am tired and lonely and I wish my child had a live in father and /or one that supported me financially. Op is right to keep her head screwed on and think very carefully.

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 16/07/2025 00:35

Ps why couldn't he go part time?

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 16/07/2025 00:36

Also, I am not sympathetic to DH when op works far more hours and does way more cooking and cleaning- he's a lazy user

MyWarmOchreHare · 16/07/2025 00:38

Shs726 · 16/07/2025 00:26

To look after the child. We both couldn’t work full time and raise a baby at the same time. One of us would have to go part time (even for a bit) and most likely it’ll be me. I’m also open to the idea that I work FT and he goes PT; but I doubt he’d like that.

Edited

Sorry, I meant why would it be you? It’s him who is more keen to have children, and it’s him who wants them soon. Don’t give up your financial independence to raise kids he wants. He can go part time. If he doesn’t want to, then who does he think is going to look after them when you’re both working, full time?

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 16/07/2025 00:39

AuraBora · 15/07/2025 21:57

It sounds like you will probably leave him and that'd what I think you should do..as others have said, you are not really aligned on what you want. And if you're not fussed about having children then you don't have the pressure on trying to meet someone else within a certain time frame!.

Certainly do NOT buy a house with him while you own your property unless you plan to sell it within three years - have you seen how much stamp duty you'd have to pay?!

If they sold his home to finance the new one they wouldn't have to pay the second home stamp
Duty as they'd be replacing a main residence.

But I think she should leave him

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 16/07/2025 00:41

We'll manage means you'll manage and I'll reap the benefits of your sacrifice, as I've been doing and will continue to do

Shs726 · 16/07/2025 00:48

MyWarmOchreHare · 16/07/2025 00:38

Sorry, I meant why would it be you? It’s him who is more keen to have children, and it’s him who wants them soon. Don’t give up your financial independence to raise kids he wants. He can go part time. If he doesn’t want to, then who does he think is going to look after them when you’re both working, full time?

I’m assuming it would be me because of how domestic housework is shared between us. I do majority of it. Also some of the conversations we have had in the past, if I read between the lines, it would appear that he hoped I would be the one going PT.

but I could be wrong

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OlderGlaswegianLivingInDevon · 16/07/2025 00:50

Leave separate divorce.

Shame that despite the prenup he will get half your savings.

MooseLooseAboutTheHoose · 16/07/2025 00:56

Shs726 · 16/07/2025 00:48

I’m assuming it would be me because of how domestic housework is shared between us. I do majority of it. Also some of the conversations we have had in the past, if I read between the lines, it would appear that he hoped I would be the one going PT.

but I could be wrong

Do you see how brainwashed you are though? You assume it would be you doing more work with the baby that HE WANTS…. Because you’re already doing more work with the house? (As well as working more, contributing more to day to day finances, saving more?) And he HOPES it would continue that way? of course he does!!!

Make that make sense OP!

OohhhhhBigStretch · 16/07/2025 00:56

We’ll see = you’ll sort it all out, finances, child rearing etc

Shs726 · 16/07/2025 00:59

MooseLooseAboutTheHoose · 16/07/2025 00:56

Do you see how brainwashed you are though? You assume it would be you doing more work with the baby that HE WANTS…. Because you’re already doing more work with the house? (As well as working more, contributing more to day to day finances, saving more?) And he HOPES it would continue that way? of course he does!!!

Make that make sense OP!

Edited

Yeah you are right

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MooseLooseAboutTheHoose · 16/07/2025 01:00

Shs726 · 16/07/2025 00:59

Yeah you are right

You’re too smart for this OP. Please walk away x

MrsTerryPratchett · 16/07/2025 01:17

You work many more hours than him.

You do most of the housework.

You earn more than him.

You save and he doesn’t.

He wants a baby.

YOU think YOU should go part time to facilitate this. You’d be mad to do this.

Is there a cultural component to all this?

Onthemaintrunkline · 16/07/2025 02:05

This chap keeps shifting the goalposts! How you could believe a word he says heaven only knows. Feeling how you currently are, without a baby, imagine how you’d be feeling with one in a small flat & him once again denying earlier promises. Don’t get caught.

VehicleTracker77 · 16/07/2025 02:07

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beetr00 · 16/07/2025 02:19

@VehicleTracker77 my god, you are one strong kick-ass wummin', kudos.

being resentful though, is like you swallowing poison but expecting him to die.

Celebrate your strength and freedom lovely, I do hope you are living a better life 🌹

kiwiane · 16/07/2025 02:20

I’d be done with negotiating with him and make steps to leave; see a really good divorce solicitor as he may come after your savings. I can’t see a good reason to stay when you’ve got the resources to rent and alternative place to live.

Shs726 · 16/07/2025 02:38

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Wow. Sorry to hear what you went through. Thank you for sharing your experience. I hope you are doing better now.

Thank you for the advice. I definitely do feel taken advantage of and 2027 isn’t that far off anyway.

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ThankULord · 16/07/2025 02:41

OP, leave.
I don't feel sorry for him.
It is a very unequal relationship.
Prior to meeting you, he didn't have his own home and probably would have continued not to have. He only decided to buy one because you have one. He wanted what you had.

You both made plans, worked it all out. You have agreed to all his decisions even when he completely vetoed yours, you have kept your end of the bargain and what has he done? None.

He lacjs insight and foresight and has hints of 'comparison' and i detect a hint of jealousy...resentment towards you because you are more financially disciplined.

He has no plans for how you will survive as a family and that's probably because atm he is living a life that you are facilitating for him. He has no ability to see or understand that to have the 'more than one child' would mean taking a financial hit on the person who is the main financial contributor. He can't see how that would make things harder...see above- lack of foresight and insight.

His constant comparing to other people is just a NO.

Don't get trapped with this man. He will be a stone around your neck.
Leave.

bipbopdo · 16/07/2025 02:48

You have everything to lose here. I’d think very carefully about your next steps with such an unreliable man.

whynotmereally · 16/07/2025 03:00

You have always been clear on your expectations of your relationship. It reads like your husband agrees a plan then changes his mind if he feels like it and expects you to follow him. If you have a child with this man you are tied to him long term and will be expected to do as he wants which is a lot harder to navigate when you are factoring in kids.

He can’t decide you will have more children it needs to be a decision made together and ideally before you have any children.

Why did he need to buy his own place? It’s like he’s in competition with you?

Why are you working so many hours, doing all the saving and majority of the cooking and cleaning. I would assume that if you have a child you will also be doing the majority of the child rearing.

If he can’t save when you both work full time how will he manage if you go part time and he has to pay more time of the bills. Where is his income going? Why don’t you know?

It sounds like you want different things and like you are expected to earn/save /cook/clean and raise multiple children. I honestly do not see the benefits for you in this situation.

Shs726 · 16/07/2025 03:31

whynotmereally · 16/07/2025 03:00

You have always been clear on your expectations of your relationship. It reads like your husband agrees a plan then changes his mind if he feels like it and expects you to follow him. If you have a child with this man you are tied to him long term and will be expected to do as he wants which is a lot harder to navigate when you are factoring in kids.

He can’t decide you will have more children it needs to be a decision made together and ideally before you have any children.

Why did he need to buy his own place? It’s like he’s in competition with you?

Why are you working so many hours, doing all the saving and majority of the cooking and cleaning. I would assume that if you have a child you will also be doing the majority of the child rearing.

If he can’t save when you both work full time how will he manage if you go part time and he has to pay more time of the bills. Where is his income going? Why don’t you know?

It sounds like you want different things and like you are expected to earn/save /cook/clean and raise multiple children. I honestly do not see the benefits for you in this situation.

Tbh I did get the impression that he tries to compete with me. But then I didn’t let the thought dominate my mind as I didn’t want any negative feelings. From his desire to all of a sudden have his own investment property to remarks he makes about my salary and how easy I have life.

I work so many hours as I’m trying to earn as much so we can achieve the dreams of 1) getting a bigger place quicker.

I also do more chores at home as in all honestly I’ve just become defeated. For long time, I wasn’t happy with how I was doing most of the chores. It led to many repetitive arguments. Ultimately, I gave up. Tbh to him, he has improved a lot compared to the start. Before he rarely did any chores. Now he does more but not anywhere near 50/50. I just accepted I’ll have to do more chores for the sake of keeping a peaceful marriage.

but in all honestly, no matter how much I try or sacrifices I make, it seems like he always has something to use against me. Some problem he will have against me. Something he’ll find.

At the start, it was buying property we live in. He wouldn’t listen to my advice that buying 1 bedroom flat isn’t a long term plan unless he has another back up. That caused drama at the time. Which we eventually resolved by coming up with a plan. (Which he didn’t stick to anyway).

Then there was the case of chores. Ultimately I accepted he’s began to do more and it’s better than before and for the sake of peace… just let it be.

Then there was the case of talking about how his other friends do so much holidays and how he really needs one. So I start working extra hours to save more towards holidays without jeopardising house saving goals. (During which time, I would work 72hrs a week). Again, I start planning 2-3 holidays a year. Not cheap holidays too.

He throws subtle hints about wanting a new car. Personally, I think it’s silly to buy a new car when he barely drives (1-2k miles a year) and we already have two cars between us. One day I confronted him that why would you want a new car when I thought plan was to save towards our house? His answer was “I’m not asking you to pay for it”. But he misses the point, that the money whether he or I spend on a new car could go towards our house? Especially as we dont need a car and there’s nothing wrong with the ones we have.
Also, I still drive my 15 year old car because it does the job. But again I said it’s up to him. As I don’t want drama.

Then he’ll compare me to his friends wives. They are great women and I appreciate raising a family isn’t easy and they are amazing mothers. I have a lot of respect for them. But I’m not them? I made it clear from the start, I wasn’t super maternal and wasn’t fussed about kids. And the wives he compares me to, don’t work and their husband’s provide for them. So why isn’t he comparing himself to his friends who are the sole breadwinners? I also ensure I cook for him. I keep the house clean. I do the “domesticated” duties. I invite his family and friends over and host dinner parties. I also get my husband with gifts regularly. I try make him happy.

but he always finds something.
now all a sudden wanting multiple kids now and giving me an ultimatum.

im just tired of it all. I’m also curious why he later apologised.

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