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YourBrickTiger · 15/07/2025 14:23

Hi - I am just hoping for a little help here...haven't been through a situation like I'm currently experiencing and it's very painful to the point of making me sick.

If I can kindly ask that no one advises against workplace romances, as I work with several couples, some of whom are married and even one who is divorced. I know a lot of people in my place of work who met here and are now married and still working together. So I thought it was ok for me too.

I don't have a support system. My parents have both passed away and friends that I do have keep everything at a surface level, which has made me unable to discuss this, therefore I apologise in advance for the length. I can't face anymore harsh criticism, so if you don't have time to read this as I understand it is very long, or you are critical of me, please be kind. I'm blaming myself enough.

I met a man, a colleague who I really liked, about 8 years ago, admired from afar as he was married and never gave it much thought other than I thought he was a really nice decent man. A few years after we started working together, he told me that his second marriage was on the rocks and that he felt unlovable. I told him that I thought he was very lovable and made a joke that if I'd marry him if they were to split. Again, didn't pay it too much mind and thought nothing would ever happen, went about my life. Another few years passed without incident.

As Covid was coming to an end, and with his marriage over, we had been getting on very well at work and one night out of the blue, he rang me and we talked for 5 hours about everything and anything. I had been single for a long time after an abusive relationship with a man from outside the UK who just disappeared on me one night after living together for almost a year. At this point, I hadn't had a relationship in 11 years and wasn't looking but I was really really drawn to this guy at work. We had a lovely conversation but again, nothing much to report afterward.

A couple of months later, I plucked up the courage to ask him if he'd like to have another phonecall (facetime). We were essential workers and still in the cloud of the pandemic so thought this was the best approach. I wasn't prepared for his response. At this point he was 49 years old, he stood up, started to rub his chest, said 'oh God no no...oh no...this is making me really uncomfortable...' and left the room. I had rehearsed this in my head all day waiting for the right moment and this happened. I was completely mortified, hurt and eventually went home and beat myself up for not being cool enough or maybe even good enough for him. When I woke up the next morning he had called me three times and sent me messages to see if I was ok. I texted back how shocked I was and how I had obviously misread the signals, but told him he was someone I had grown to like very much and that it wasn't my intention to upset or scare him. When I got back to work a few days later, he'd stopped speaking to me.

This went on for a couple of weeks so I just kept my head down and got on with it. Another two weeks passed and all of a sudden, he was trying to make me laugh again, which he always could. I was relieved he seemed ok, but just left him to it. We started to get on better, and for his 50th I bought him a silly gift, no one else in his life seemed to make an effort, so I wanted to do something for him. On one of our dates he told me that his friends dog had used it as a chew toy. (It was a bottle opener made from wood).

We would be here all year if I told you the full story but although he and his wife didn't divorce, they separated, and he said he wanted nothing to do with women for a year. This to me was fine and healthy but he made a huge announcement to me about it. Feeling it safe, I said 'well if after that year is up, would you like to have a coffee with me?' and he said 'yes...I will have a think about that'.

No more than 2 weeks passed, when we were alone and he asked me out. I was elated! We set a date and he was calling me and texting me in the build up to it. All his nerves seemed to have gone. He sent me photos of himself, went through my socials and complimented me on my photos. He even sent me a few intimate pics. In work that day he kissed me for the first time.

We had arranged for him to come to my home, as I knew him so well this wasn't an issue and we were going to have a few drinks. I made a real effort, scrubbed the house until it was shining, and made myself look really nice, I thought. He arrived at the time we arranged. We sat down for our first drink and he immediately started to become nervous again. He admitted to being nervous and I just soothed him, telling him to relax, it was just me etc...but he said 'no no I have to leave'. He was only with me despite the massive build up for 5 minutes. I was completely and totally distraught and thought it must be something to do with my looks, or weight etc. I'm not stick thin and quite curvy but he had been paying me so many compliments I thought he was attracted.

I had the awful situation of having to face him again in work but I just tried to walk past him with a brief hello. It was agonising - he did attempt a short apology but in his words it was 'sorry about everything I just got all'...and made this funny noise that you would make as if you were shivering or something.

I had developed feelings by this point but just had to try to get on with it. I was hit with various other awful things like him accusing me of stalking one of his exes. He blew up at me in work as I had clicked on her profile when she came up as a friend suggestion. It was genuine. She is friends with my cousin and I have family in the area he is from. He defriended me from facebook as I had clicked 'like' on this ladies nails, and then once I realised who she was I unliked it. Thinking no harm done, but he found out. He was SO angry with me. It crushed me that he had deleted me and when I tried to explain the family connection, he put his hand up in front of me and said 'I don't want to hear it'. When I said 'Please let me explain!' he shouted 'F* off' at me infront of my colleagues.

There is a lot of other stuff that has happened but that Christmas he approached me again after he started talking to me again and we slept together. He told me he knew how much I had fallen for him and that he just needed time as he admitted he didn't know what he was doing with his life. I told him to take all the time he needed. A few days later, he stopped speaking to me again. He approached me for another date which I agreed to and at the time he was due to meet me, he cancelled, saying he wasn't quite ready.

Then he came round again - this time my idea I admit it as I couldn't let him go. We became more involved and he came to my home, asked to see my family albums, made me promises about holidays, the future, said I didn't have to be concerned about money anymore (I'm very independent so it isn't a money issue anyway but was nice to have support). We were close, talking on the phone, being intimate, he even said 'imagine how everyone in work will feel when they find out we've been together for like 8 months' or something..! He told me he wanted me to meet his family, and let me facetime with his sister. It was clear she knew who I was and paid me lots of compliments, telling me she only wanted him to be happy. I said I would never hurt him and would always try to make him happy. He told his sister that I would do anything for him and he told me he felt I was his soulmate. He told other people (who told me) that he had told them he knew I had fallen for him and that I was a lovely girl who would make a wonderful wife.

On the day we were due to meet his family, his whole demeanour changed. We woke up and even his facial expressions were different. He said 'I have to go now' and when I enquired about the family he said 'we'll do it another time'. He assured me he wasn't coming back but I didn't hear from him for 5 days. He sent a text to say he wanted to be alone, he didn't love me, he knew I loved him, that all it was was 'sex and a drink', and that he knew I'd react badly and he had to go because I was stressing him out.

I totally and completely fell apart but managed to sort of hold it together at work. Despite his text, a month later he approached me again, asking for another chance and when I asked him why he had told me he didn't want me, his explanation was that he had just freaked out because he knew I had such deep feelings. Of course I agreed. Nearly as soon as I agreed, he turned cold. Despite the fact we'd made a date, he became cold with me. When I asked him why, he said 'I'm not going back there, I can't do it'.

This was the only time that I visibly cracked at work. Someone saw me crying and told my colleague who told him. He became so so angry with me that he arranged a meeting with me and my boss in which he said in front of my boss 'I did not make love to you - I f*** you'. My boss said nothing. He told me he could 'get any girl in a bar and take her home' and told me that I had caused him a total nightmare.

I took some time off work and when I returned I didn't go near him. But apparently made one fatal mistake. I borrowed his coffee cup. One day when I forgot my own, I used his. Washed it thoroughly and put it back. He found out about this too because someone started to tease him about me using it and he apparently laughed. But with me it was a different story. He took the cup home and said 'I don't like anyone using my stuff'. Despite having been in my home etc.

For the next month he stopped talking to me and texted my colleagues to say things like 'Tell her I'm hiding in the toilets' or 'has she gone yet?'. I was so devastated because all I had done was borrowed a cup. I hadn't bothered him, begged him, stalked him, annoyed him, nothing at all. I had left him alone. I begged my boss to talk to him, to get him to stop and he said he would not speak to him, but would keep an eye on it. It continued for over a month with no help until I begged my boss. I was so humiliated and because of this, decided to move to a different department.

On the day that I moved, the guy was coming out of the department I work in. I don't know why he was there but he shouted 'Good luck in the new job!' at me and walked on. I have rarely seen him since but if I do bump into him he is very nice, talkative wants to show me pictures on his phone etc. I do not understand this behaviour. He was hiding from me, but now he's being nice?

Because of everything that has happened, I have become a shell of myself. I work alone now, with very little interaction with anyone, I've isolated myself and feel like everyone hates me or doesn't want me around. He has remained in his position, which I guess is down to me as I didn't make a fuss as I would never have wanted him to be hurt. So I've carried it all. I felt I had up to a point a good relationship with my former boss but he didn't speak out for me or help me with some of the language that was used, the hiding in the toilets and the silent treatment that the guy inflicted in work. I've heard rumours of being called names like Baby Reindeer which I never was. I never stalked him, called him repeatedly, went to his home, didn't do anything harmful to him at all. He said that 'you went about it all the wrong way'. I have never asked a guy out before so that was a huge knock.

His kids don't talk to him anymore and I had hoped he would be able to reconcile whatever happened with my help but it's never happened. He told me his ex wife has turned them against him.

I've come away thinking that I'm a freak, that there is something the matter with me because I fell for someone who I genuinely liked. It is killing me, I've had to have therapy but nothing is convincing me that I didn't cause this by loving him and by believing he was just scared and giving so many chances. There are days I just don't cope at all, then days I really do, and days I really miss him so so much. I believed he was a different man, I still do believe he's lost and afraid but I don't know why he had to do this to someone who had been so kind to him and loving for so long, even when we weren't together. My fear is now that I'm no good for anyone and never will be. I'm 49 now and can't get past it. No matter what I try to do it's like a black cloud hanging over me. I really doubt myself now, all my interactions with people and fear because I'm not picture perfect, or picture thin that this happened to me due to that. To me he is very handsome, so maybe that's it? I am so scared for my future now, and my health is declining. I didn't know it was such a crime to be in love but if someone does hide from me in the bathroom, it surely means I'm repulsive? Out of everything I had shared with him and everything he knew, the hiding is probably the worst. I have thought of ending my life because if I am that bad what is the point, but I am trying to believe that maybe this isn't my fault? I just don't know anymore and thank you from the bottom of my heart to anyone who takes the time to read this and for letting me talk.

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TheAverageJoanne · 07/09/2025 11:23

Ruralretreating · 05/09/2025 01:07

OP, I haven’t read whole thread but wanted to recommend a book called “It begins with you” by Jillian Turecki. A friend brokenhearted after a hot/cold situationship with a guy she worked with (nowhere near as abusive as yours has been) said it helped her more in two days than 6 months of therapy (her therapist didn’t sound great tbh!). It’s about boundaries and healthy relationships but very compassionate and not victim-blaming. Wishing you all the best because you sound lovely.

This book is blooming brilliant. Definitely download it. I've been listening to it for 3 days.

YourBrickTiger · 08/09/2025 09:23

Thanks for the messages. I am definitely going to get the book when I can. Don't know what to say at the minute...concerned my brother believes I'm bi-polar. I've never thought I was. Yes I'm sensitive and I try very hard to help people, but to have him accuse me of that and of trying to keep him captive at the hospital has been really hard. The way he video'd the conversation and when I tried to hug him he yelled 'don't touch me don't touch me!' Got an over the phone valuation of the house done, so just need a walk through one now. Thank you for the advice around that too.

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Sunflowers67 · 08/09/2025 09:47

I am sorry to hear of your recent worries over your home. Out of action here for a few days with a nasty cold so although I was keeping updated, I had very little energy to formulate a response. Back in the 'land of the living' again now.

I was/still am in a similar situation over my home. I don't know if it would help you or not, but I found looking at other properties on the estate agent sites helped me to imagine a 'new home, new life'. One without painful memories. I put my focus into that for a few nights instead of hyper focusing on him and how bloody distraught and sad I was feeling. I came to realise that it was just bricks and mortar and the good memories within that home would always be mine, no matter where I lived.

You probably have a rough idea of how much money you will have to spend so have a little look around maybe? Start to imagine what that new life looks look - a nice garden for the cats to enjoy? Maybe a nice big kitchen to do lots of baking? A beautiful view to gaze at over morning coffee?

I did find one that I could imagine myself living in but I was about £1M short 😜

Anyway, just keep going. One foot in front of the other, one day at a time, keep being kind and loving to yourself - you deserve it. 🌻

TheAverageJoanne · 08/09/2025 10:12

The 😺😺 will keep you going. My cats are everything! Far more important than any man. I refused to marry my ex because he wanted me to re-home them.

YourBrickTiger · 08/09/2025 10:31

Sunflowers67 · 08/09/2025 09:47

I am sorry to hear of your recent worries over your home. Out of action here for a few days with a nasty cold so although I was keeping updated, I had very little energy to formulate a response. Back in the 'land of the living' again now.

I was/still am in a similar situation over my home. I don't know if it would help you or not, but I found looking at other properties on the estate agent sites helped me to imagine a 'new home, new life'. One without painful memories. I put my focus into that for a few nights instead of hyper focusing on him and how bloody distraught and sad I was feeling. I came to realise that it was just bricks and mortar and the good memories within that home would always be mine, no matter where I lived.

You probably have a rough idea of how much money you will have to spend so have a little look around maybe? Start to imagine what that new life looks look - a nice garden for the cats to enjoy? Maybe a nice big kitchen to do lots of baking? A beautiful view to gaze at over morning coffee?

I did find one that I could imagine myself living in but I was about £1M short 😜

Anyway, just keep going. One foot in front of the other, one day at a time, keep being kind and loving to yourself - you deserve it. 🌻

I have been doing that actually, it feels nice, well for the affordable places anyway! But some nice ideas. I just can't believe my own brother is treating me like this. It's like he HATES me and I don't know what I've done. Like I keep saying with the two men I love treating me like shit, it's no wonder I think something is wrong with me.

@ArsenicAlice if ANYONE told me to rehome my cats, it would be the last thing they ever did. What a wanker, I'm glad you didn't marry him! Cats forever!

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Itsalittlewetout · 08/09/2025 10:42

YourBrickTiger · 08/09/2025 10:31

I have been doing that actually, it feels nice, well for the affordable places anyway! But some nice ideas. I just can't believe my own brother is treating me like this. It's like he HATES me and I don't know what I've done. Like I keep saying with the two men I love treating me like shit, it's no wonder I think something is wrong with me.

@ArsenicAlice if ANYONE told me to rehome my cats, it would be the last thing they ever did. What a wanker, I'm glad you didn't marry him! Cats forever!

We are what we surround ourselves with. It is no wonder you feel like this. All the strawberries in your punnet are fluffy and mouldy so no wonder it spread to you.

YourBrickTiger · 08/09/2025 10:45

Itsalittlewetout · 08/09/2025 10:42

We are what we surround ourselves with. It is no wonder you feel like this. All the strawberries in your punnet are fluffy and mouldy so no wonder it spread to you.

But again that says more about me doesn't it?

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Itsalittlewetout · 08/09/2025 10:48

YourBrickTiger · 08/09/2025 10:45

But again that says more about me doesn't it?

Yeah you the lovely little ripe red strawberry who needs to remove herself because other people’s rot spreads. It’s always been about you, you protecting your amazing self.

YourBrickTiger · 08/09/2025 11:14

Itsalittlewetout · 08/09/2025 10:48

Yeah you the lovely little ripe red strawberry who needs to remove herself because other people’s rot spreads. It’s always been about you, you protecting your amazing self.

This little ripe strawberry has absolutely no one who wants to pick her :(

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Itsalittlewetout · 08/09/2025 11:22

YourBrickTiger · 08/09/2025 11:14

This little ripe strawberry has absolutely no one who wants to pick her :(

Maybe not at the moment, maybe it doesn’t feel like this. But the only person you ever need in life is yourself. Throughout all of life you always pick yourself, you pick yourself up and you remove yourself from anywhere that doesn’t feel good. You have to trust this. I was always alone, never physically but always emotionally until I removed everyone. Then I made sure that anyone who came into my life was someone safe.

YourBrickTiger · 08/09/2025 11:39

Itsalittlewetout · 08/09/2025 11:22

Maybe not at the moment, maybe it doesn’t feel like this. But the only person you ever need in life is yourself. Throughout all of life you always pick yourself, you pick yourself up and you remove yourself from anywhere that doesn’t feel good. You have to trust this. I was always alone, never physically but always emotionally until I removed everyone. Then I made sure that anyone who came into my life was someone safe.

I wouldn't even trust my own judgement anymore. Maybe despite my huge capacity for love I do go about it all wrong, and it isn't meant for me. Maybe if there is a God, when he made me he said 'you're here for the animals, that's it'. No matter what I try, it doesn't work. Friendships, romantic relationships etc. The latest is one of the girls I thought I was closest to has seemingly fallen out with me because I reached out to one of the others in our group. I thought that particular relationship was over, but we met up and talked out a few things and so far it's going ok. Despite the fact this girl thinks this other friend is amazing, for some reason she seems to have taken issue that he and I are friends again. You couldn't make my life up seriously.

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Itsalittlewetout · 08/09/2025 11:43

YourBrickTiger · 08/09/2025 11:39

I wouldn't even trust my own judgement anymore. Maybe despite my huge capacity for love I do go about it all wrong, and it isn't meant for me. Maybe if there is a God, when he made me he said 'you're here for the animals, that's it'. No matter what I try, it doesn't work. Friendships, romantic relationships etc. The latest is one of the girls I thought I was closest to has seemingly fallen out with me because I reached out to one of the others in our group. I thought that particular relationship was over, but we met up and talked out a few things and so far it's going ok. Despite the fact this girl thinks this other friend is amazing, for some reason she seems to have taken issue that he and I are friends again. You couldn't make my life up seriously.

Could you have some neurodivergence in you? I struggled all my life with all relationships until I found this out. I always show up authentic, no barriers, no mask just as me. A lot of people are not authentic and I took that as something I had done. I thought all people were like me, they are not. I have found a relationship and friends since discovering myself.

YourBrickTiger · 08/09/2025 11:56

Itsalittlewetout · 08/09/2025 11:43

Could you have some neurodivergence in you? I struggled all my life with all relationships until I found this out. I always show up authentic, no barriers, no mask just as me. A lot of people are not authentic and I took that as something I had done. I thought all people were like me, they are not. I have found a relationship and friends since discovering myself.

Yes I have ADHD. Autistic traits too. So really not an awful lot going for me.

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Itsalittlewetout · 08/09/2025 12:00

YourBrickTiger · 08/09/2025 11:56

Yes I have ADHD. Autistic traits too. So really not an awful lot going for me.

Well I’m Autistic and I think I’ve an awful lot going on, I bet you do to. I ask because it explains some of the situations you are in. Relationships are extremely complex. I find neurotypical people confusing, too much is left unspoken, too many unspoken rules. What about joining a support group. My friends are all ND, we understand each other. Its about finding where you fit in the world, especially for us.

FrogFrogFrog · 08/09/2025 12:21

YourBrickTiger · 08/09/2025 11:56

Yes I have ADHD. Autistic traits too. So really not an awful lot going for me.

What?? OP, I'm autistic with ADHD. It can be challenging but it's not inherently negative. I have a husband, friends, and a career that I love.

Emotionally, I think the most difficult thing you're dealing with is the negative voice in your head telling you that you're rubbish. You need to change the damaging narrative that you constantly tell yourself, so that you can move on and realise you're worth more.

Try reading up on positive affirmations and mindfulness. Our inner narrative is primarily habit. You can learn to change it and stop focusing on the negative, which can have a massive impact on your mood and sense of self-worth.

VoidShouter · 08/09/2025 12:33

Just as background OP I also have ADHD (diagnosed) and autistic traits (no formal diagnosis).

You seem so determined to blame yourself for this situation with this man, even though it's clear to pretty much everyone on this thread that he is a bad guy, who has treated you very poorly. I'm sad for you that you just want to blame yourself. I used to be like that, I've worked hard over the years through therapy to reframe the way I see myself.

I have experience of ruminating over relationships gone wrong, wanting to discuss them endlessly, seeking confirmation that had I just done X or y, things would be different, thinking I'm just so awful, why me, etc etc. But at the end of the day I realised what I was doing was maintaining my last bit of connection to the situation/person. It was part of not being able to let go, and even though I'd think "oh I don't want to feel this way it's so shit", I was in a way choosing to hang on, choosing to feel shit, because that was the most familiar thing to me.

I'm not trying to blame you for feeling the way you do. I'm just saying I've been there, and it can be different, but you have to want to change, and want to choose yourself.

Itsalittlewetout · 08/09/2025 13:54

You see how many of us ND folk understand you, we all speak the same language. Join some real life groups. We know the hole you are in and the ways to get yourself out. Some of the most healing experiences I’ve had is just sat with someone who’s said, I feel like that also. Then some laughs about what we’ve got ourselves into, laughter is the greatest of medicine.

YourBrickTiger · 08/09/2025 14:01

FrogFrogFrog · 08/09/2025 12:21

What?? OP, I'm autistic with ADHD. It can be challenging but it's not inherently negative. I have a husband, friends, and a career that I love.

Emotionally, I think the most difficult thing you're dealing with is the negative voice in your head telling you that you're rubbish. You need to change the damaging narrative that you constantly tell yourself, so that you can move on and realise you're worth more.

Try reading up on positive affirmations and mindfulness. Our inner narrative is primarily habit. You can learn to change it and stop focusing on the negative, which can have a massive impact on your mood and sense of self-worth.

The thing with all the positive affirmations etc is that how am I supposed to believe them when the person I loved the most has been so brutal in telling me I have a problem and now my own sibling is doing it too. My brother refuses to talk to me without recording me on his phone.

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Itsalittlewetout · 08/09/2025 14:05

YourBrickTiger · 08/09/2025 14:01

The thing with all the positive affirmations etc is that how am I supposed to believe them when the person I loved the most has been so brutal in telling me I have a problem and now my own sibling is doing it too. My brother refuses to talk to me without recording me on his phone.

That’s what you pay the therapist for. If there was something wrong with you then it’s their job to tell you and help you!

YourBrickTiger · 08/09/2025 14:12

Itsalittlewetout · 08/09/2025 14:05

That’s what you pay the therapist for. If there was something wrong with you then it’s their job to tell you and help you!

See isn't this just undoing everything we have talked about here?? The only thing they've been able to tell me is I have adhd likely autistic traits but that the guys behaviour is abusive and my brother is abusive too. But how do I know who is right? I rang the ambulance for my brother due to his history of alcoholism and due to the fact he appeared to be hallucinating. I thought it was the right thing to do. Now he's telling me he spent an unncessary day in hospital, is blaming me for loss of earnings and says I'm bipolar. I've tried to look out for my brother his entire life. I maybe am overprotective in the absence of my parents but I was scared for him. How does that make me bipolar? I'm likely not explaining this very well but with BOTH of them verbally attacking me what am I supposed to think when I know in my heart I love them both so much?

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Itsalittlewetout · 08/09/2025 14:25

YourBrickTiger · 08/09/2025 14:12

See isn't this just undoing everything we have talked about here?? The only thing they've been able to tell me is I have adhd likely autistic traits but that the guys behaviour is abusive and my brother is abusive too. But how do I know who is right? I rang the ambulance for my brother due to his history of alcoholism and due to the fact he appeared to be hallucinating. I thought it was the right thing to do. Now he's telling me he spent an unncessary day in hospital, is blaming me for loss of earnings and says I'm bipolar. I've tried to look out for my brother his entire life. I maybe am overprotective in the absence of my parents but I was scared for him. How does that make me bipolar? I'm likely not explaining this very well but with BOTH of them verbally attacking me what am I supposed to think when I know in my heart I love them both so much?

You have been told by a person who is fully trained in this field but you won’t accept the answer. They have told you that this man and your brother is abusive. You “say the only thing they have been able to tell you”…… that’s the entire thing. The only level of acceptable abuse within any relationship is zero. Therefore you have nothing to do with them. You believe the person you have paid to independently and not emotionally invested give you an answer.

FrogFrogFrog · 08/09/2025 14:44

YourBrickTiger · 08/09/2025 14:01

The thing with all the positive affirmations etc is that how am I supposed to believe them when the person I loved the most has been so brutal in telling me I have a problem and now my own sibling is doing it too. My brother refuses to talk to me without recording me on his phone.

You don't have to believe them. The point is to reprogram your negative self-thoughts. Just try it as an experiment: for just a day, pay attention to what that little voice in your head is saying to you. Try reframing it.

For instance: 'I must be a terrible person, look at how brother and the guy have treated me.' Then stop yourself. Consciously reframe it: 'I'm a good person. Their problems are their own. I deserve good things and loving people in my life.' Say that to yourself a few times, whenever you realise you're being negative about yourself. Again, it doesn't matter if you believe it! But if you can get in the habit of thinking more kindly about yourself (which you very much deserve!), it will help lift you up a little so that you can see things more clearly.

YourBrickTiger · 08/09/2025 14:52

Is it normal to video record conversations?

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Itsalittlewetout · 08/09/2025 14:52

If you have a good read up of the ADHD brain it’s a little relentless, it’ doesn’t stop and it’s drawn to negativity. It’s programmed to see the negatives, it wants to fix it. It doesn’t have to be a bad thing. It just means we have to understand ourselves a bit more.

Itsalittlewetout · 08/09/2025 14:53

YourBrickTiger · 08/09/2025 14:52

Is it normal to video record conversations?

No and it’s against the law to record someone without their consent.

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