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YourBrickTiger · 15/07/2025 14:23

Hi - I am just hoping for a little help here...haven't been through a situation like I'm currently experiencing and it's very painful to the point of making me sick.

If I can kindly ask that no one advises against workplace romances, as I work with several couples, some of whom are married and even one who is divorced. I know a lot of people in my place of work who met here and are now married and still working together. So I thought it was ok for me too.

I don't have a support system. My parents have both passed away and friends that I do have keep everything at a surface level, which has made me unable to discuss this, therefore I apologise in advance for the length. I can't face anymore harsh criticism, so if you don't have time to read this as I understand it is very long, or you are critical of me, please be kind. I'm blaming myself enough.

I met a man, a colleague who I really liked, about 8 years ago, admired from afar as he was married and never gave it much thought other than I thought he was a really nice decent man. A few years after we started working together, he told me that his second marriage was on the rocks and that he felt unlovable. I told him that I thought he was very lovable and made a joke that if I'd marry him if they were to split. Again, didn't pay it too much mind and thought nothing would ever happen, went about my life. Another few years passed without incident.

As Covid was coming to an end, and with his marriage over, we had been getting on very well at work and one night out of the blue, he rang me and we talked for 5 hours about everything and anything. I had been single for a long time after an abusive relationship with a man from outside the UK who just disappeared on me one night after living together for almost a year. At this point, I hadn't had a relationship in 11 years and wasn't looking but I was really really drawn to this guy at work. We had a lovely conversation but again, nothing much to report afterward.

A couple of months later, I plucked up the courage to ask him if he'd like to have another phonecall (facetime). We were essential workers and still in the cloud of the pandemic so thought this was the best approach. I wasn't prepared for his response. At this point he was 49 years old, he stood up, started to rub his chest, said 'oh God no no...oh no...this is making me really uncomfortable...' and left the room. I had rehearsed this in my head all day waiting for the right moment and this happened. I was completely mortified, hurt and eventually went home and beat myself up for not being cool enough or maybe even good enough for him. When I woke up the next morning he had called me three times and sent me messages to see if I was ok. I texted back how shocked I was and how I had obviously misread the signals, but told him he was someone I had grown to like very much and that it wasn't my intention to upset or scare him. When I got back to work a few days later, he'd stopped speaking to me.

This went on for a couple of weeks so I just kept my head down and got on with it. Another two weeks passed and all of a sudden, he was trying to make me laugh again, which he always could. I was relieved he seemed ok, but just left him to it. We started to get on better, and for his 50th I bought him a silly gift, no one else in his life seemed to make an effort, so I wanted to do something for him. On one of our dates he told me that his friends dog had used it as a chew toy. (It was a bottle opener made from wood).

We would be here all year if I told you the full story but although he and his wife didn't divorce, they separated, and he said he wanted nothing to do with women for a year. This to me was fine and healthy but he made a huge announcement to me about it. Feeling it safe, I said 'well if after that year is up, would you like to have a coffee with me?' and he said 'yes...I will have a think about that'.

No more than 2 weeks passed, when we were alone and he asked me out. I was elated! We set a date and he was calling me and texting me in the build up to it. All his nerves seemed to have gone. He sent me photos of himself, went through my socials and complimented me on my photos. He even sent me a few intimate pics. In work that day he kissed me for the first time.

We had arranged for him to come to my home, as I knew him so well this wasn't an issue and we were going to have a few drinks. I made a real effort, scrubbed the house until it was shining, and made myself look really nice, I thought. He arrived at the time we arranged. We sat down for our first drink and he immediately started to become nervous again. He admitted to being nervous and I just soothed him, telling him to relax, it was just me etc...but he said 'no no I have to leave'. He was only with me despite the massive build up for 5 minutes. I was completely and totally distraught and thought it must be something to do with my looks, or weight etc. I'm not stick thin and quite curvy but he had been paying me so many compliments I thought he was attracted.

I had the awful situation of having to face him again in work but I just tried to walk past him with a brief hello. It was agonising - he did attempt a short apology but in his words it was 'sorry about everything I just got all'...and made this funny noise that you would make as if you were shivering or something.

I had developed feelings by this point but just had to try to get on with it. I was hit with various other awful things like him accusing me of stalking one of his exes. He blew up at me in work as I had clicked on her profile when she came up as a friend suggestion. It was genuine. She is friends with my cousin and I have family in the area he is from. He defriended me from facebook as I had clicked 'like' on this ladies nails, and then once I realised who she was I unliked it. Thinking no harm done, but he found out. He was SO angry with me. It crushed me that he had deleted me and when I tried to explain the family connection, he put his hand up in front of me and said 'I don't want to hear it'. When I said 'Please let me explain!' he shouted 'F* off' at me infront of my colleagues.

There is a lot of other stuff that has happened but that Christmas he approached me again after he started talking to me again and we slept together. He told me he knew how much I had fallen for him and that he just needed time as he admitted he didn't know what he was doing with his life. I told him to take all the time he needed. A few days later, he stopped speaking to me again. He approached me for another date which I agreed to and at the time he was due to meet me, he cancelled, saying he wasn't quite ready.

Then he came round again - this time my idea I admit it as I couldn't let him go. We became more involved and he came to my home, asked to see my family albums, made me promises about holidays, the future, said I didn't have to be concerned about money anymore (I'm very independent so it isn't a money issue anyway but was nice to have support). We were close, talking on the phone, being intimate, he even said 'imagine how everyone in work will feel when they find out we've been together for like 8 months' or something..! He told me he wanted me to meet his family, and let me facetime with his sister. It was clear she knew who I was and paid me lots of compliments, telling me she only wanted him to be happy. I said I would never hurt him and would always try to make him happy. He told his sister that I would do anything for him and he told me he felt I was his soulmate. He told other people (who told me) that he had told them he knew I had fallen for him and that I was a lovely girl who would make a wonderful wife.

On the day we were due to meet his family, his whole demeanour changed. We woke up and even his facial expressions were different. He said 'I have to go now' and when I enquired about the family he said 'we'll do it another time'. He assured me he wasn't coming back but I didn't hear from him for 5 days. He sent a text to say he wanted to be alone, he didn't love me, he knew I loved him, that all it was was 'sex and a drink', and that he knew I'd react badly and he had to go because I was stressing him out.

I totally and completely fell apart but managed to sort of hold it together at work. Despite his text, a month later he approached me again, asking for another chance and when I asked him why he had told me he didn't want me, his explanation was that he had just freaked out because he knew I had such deep feelings. Of course I agreed. Nearly as soon as I agreed, he turned cold. Despite the fact we'd made a date, he became cold with me. When I asked him why, he said 'I'm not going back there, I can't do it'.

This was the only time that I visibly cracked at work. Someone saw me crying and told my colleague who told him. He became so so angry with me that he arranged a meeting with me and my boss in which he said in front of my boss 'I did not make love to you - I f*** you'. My boss said nothing. He told me he could 'get any girl in a bar and take her home' and told me that I had caused him a total nightmare.

I took some time off work and when I returned I didn't go near him. But apparently made one fatal mistake. I borrowed his coffee cup. One day when I forgot my own, I used his. Washed it thoroughly and put it back. He found out about this too because someone started to tease him about me using it and he apparently laughed. But with me it was a different story. He took the cup home and said 'I don't like anyone using my stuff'. Despite having been in my home etc.

For the next month he stopped talking to me and texted my colleagues to say things like 'Tell her I'm hiding in the toilets' or 'has she gone yet?'. I was so devastated because all I had done was borrowed a cup. I hadn't bothered him, begged him, stalked him, annoyed him, nothing at all. I had left him alone. I begged my boss to talk to him, to get him to stop and he said he would not speak to him, but would keep an eye on it. It continued for over a month with no help until I begged my boss. I was so humiliated and because of this, decided to move to a different department.

On the day that I moved, the guy was coming out of the department I work in. I don't know why he was there but he shouted 'Good luck in the new job!' at me and walked on. I have rarely seen him since but if I do bump into him he is very nice, talkative wants to show me pictures on his phone etc. I do not understand this behaviour. He was hiding from me, but now he's being nice?

Because of everything that has happened, I have become a shell of myself. I work alone now, with very little interaction with anyone, I've isolated myself and feel like everyone hates me or doesn't want me around. He has remained in his position, which I guess is down to me as I didn't make a fuss as I would never have wanted him to be hurt. So I've carried it all. I felt I had up to a point a good relationship with my former boss but he didn't speak out for me or help me with some of the language that was used, the hiding in the toilets and the silent treatment that the guy inflicted in work. I've heard rumours of being called names like Baby Reindeer which I never was. I never stalked him, called him repeatedly, went to his home, didn't do anything harmful to him at all. He said that 'you went about it all the wrong way'. I have never asked a guy out before so that was a huge knock.

His kids don't talk to him anymore and I had hoped he would be able to reconcile whatever happened with my help but it's never happened. He told me his ex wife has turned them against him.

I've come away thinking that I'm a freak, that there is something the matter with me because I fell for someone who I genuinely liked. It is killing me, I've had to have therapy but nothing is convincing me that I didn't cause this by loving him and by believing he was just scared and giving so many chances. There are days I just don't cope at all, then days I really do, and days I really miss him so so much. I believed he was a different man, I still do believe he's lost and afraid but I don't know why he had to do this to someone who had been so kind to him and loving for so long, even when we weren't together. My fear is now that I'm no good for anyone and never will be. I'm 49 now and can't get past it. No matter what I try to do it's like a black cloud hanging over me. I really doubt myself now, all my interactions with people and fear because I'm not picture perfect, or picture thin that this happened to me due to that. To me he is very handsome, so maybe that's it? I am so scared for my future now, and my health is declining. I didn't know it was such a crime to be in love but if someone does hide from me in the bathroom, it surely means I'm repulsive? Out of everything I had shared with him and everything he knew, the hiding is probably the worst. I have thought of ending my life because if I am that bad what is the point, but I am trying to believe that maybe this isn't my fault? I just don't know anymore and thank you from the bottom of my heart to anyone who takes the time to read this and for letting me talk.

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YourBrickTiger · 04/09/2025 16:29

Itsalittlewetout · 04/09/2025 16:12

How’s the relationship with his kids?

They are all young adults now. None of them speak to him and have changed their surnames. He told me the mother has poisoned them against him.

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Itsalittlewetout · 04/09/2025 16:42

YourBrickTiger · 04/09/2025 16:29

They are all young adults now. None of them speak to him and have changed their surnames. He told me the mother has poisoned them against him.

Oh dear that story. We’ve all fallen for it, they are very good at being the victim in all their stories. We come along and want to make it all better for them, until it happens to you and you realise you are the next poisoned women story. It’s how they get their “victims”. Each partner getting a narrative where they have been wronged. In all of their stories they are never at fault. They are pathological liars.

TheAverageJoanne · 04/09/2025 16:45

YourBrickTiger · 04/09/2025 15:06

I've actually fallen so low at times that I have considered having cosmetic surgery to make myself look like one of them. Because in my mind they are all a man wants. But then he had one and now she's left him too but he was at her beck and call any time she needed a lift, food, lift to her citizenship ceremony so he'd be paid...wonder was he ever as disrespectful to her as he was to me.

You need to tell your therapist this.

TheAverageJoanne · 04/09/2025 16:47

YourBrickTiger · 04/09/2025 15:49

I can't help but think if I had stayed quiet, he'd still be here.

That would not be a good outcome.

Itsalittlewetout · 04/09/2025 17:03

TheAverageJoanne · 04/09/2025 16:47

That would not be a good outcome.

And not possible as he’s actively trying to provoke you. He wants you to react so he can point and laugh at you for being so pathetic. They like to see you like this.

ForgetMeNotRose · 04/09/2025 17:09

Plenty of people are in abusive relationships for many years and have multiple children.

Maybe he married his first wife when she was young and by the time she realised the kind of man he was she was trapped.

Maybe she didn't have friends or family around her to help her, or tell her she deserved better.

Maybe she was reliant on him financially to keep a roof over the children's heads.

Maybe he broke her confidence so badly that she genuinely believed that she was the problem and that she was so broken that she no longer felt she could cope in life without him.

There are many reasons why people stay in these relationships. The length of the relationship isn't proof it was loving or healthy. The fact all of his kids changed their names speaks volumes.

I would be tempted to do a Claire's Law request honestly.

It's very easy to seem like a decent, good person when you are lying and don't have to actually follow through and show you're a good man by your actions. His actions show who he is.

He doesn't like south east Asian women because of how they look. He likes them because he can exploit them by offering them a route out of hardship - which of course he would never give them. I'm sure he was awful to his wife but she probably felt she had to put up with it to get her citizenship and he knew that.

Brunettesmorefun · 04/09/2025 17:15

I’m so sorry OP. He sounds horrible and you are worth so much more than that. Please don’t let it affect you as it was not your fault. It does seem as though you were a little infatuated with him but haven’t we all been there at some point?
This is not you … it is him. I hope you can build up your confidence again.

Bittenonce · 04/09/2025 17:18

I've actually fallen so low at times that I have considered having cosmetic surgery

@YourBrickTiger I warned you about talking about how you look!

Itsalittlewetout · 04/09/2025 17:35

Think of him like those introductory offers from service providers. You can have it all for 6 month, all the channels, all the Disney +. Then after 6 months you drop down to the basic package….but you so hooked on having all the Disney+ you can’t live without it. What you saw at the beginning was a ploy to get you hooked. You are in love with the introductory offer.

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YourBrickTiger · 04/09/2025 19:48

Thanks a lot

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Not sure why you would come here to be so cruel. I’ve explained I don’t have anyone to talk to and find this forum and most of the people, incredibly comforting. Just because something may seem unbelievable to you, doesn’t mean it isn’t true. And you’ve really really scared me so well done you.

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YourBrickTiger · 04/09/2025 19:57

Sorry if I don’t have your extreme skills for coping.

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Itsalittlewetout · 04/09/2025 20:03

YourBrickTiger · 04/09/2025 19:57

Sorry if I don’t have your extreme skills for coping.

You see what I mean about the world being full of twats!

YourBrickTiger · 04/09/2025 22:35

Itsalittlewetout · 04/09/2025 20:03

You see what I mean about the world being full of twats!

Yeah. Not sure why they are allowed to post here. Maybe get a kick out of hurting people.

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TheAverageJoanne · 04/09/2025 22:49

YourBrickTiger · 04/09/2025 22:35

Yeah. Not sure why they are allowed to post here. Maybe get a kick out of hurting people.

It was reported, I was one of the people who reported it and it's gone now.

YourBrickTiger · 04/09/2025 23:02

TheAverageJoanne · 04/09/2025 22:49

It was reported, I was one of the people who reported it and it's gone now.

Thank you I really appreciate that. I’m just scared now by what the poster said. Other than scan my passport not sure what else I can do.

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YourBrickTiger · 04/09/2025 23:02

TheAverageJoanne · 04/09/2025 22:49

It was reported, I was one of the people who reported it and it's gone now.

Thank you I really appreciate that. I’m just scared now by what the poster said. Other than scan my passport not sure what else I can do.

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Bittenonce · 04/09/2025 23:13

YourBrickTiger · 04/09/2025 23:02

Thank you I really appreciate that. I’m just scared now by what the poster said. Other than scan my passport not sure what else I can do.

You can practice with them, same as you need to do IRL: Learn that there are people whose opinions don’t matter. Focus on the good ones - I hope you agree that you’ve found so many people here rooting for you and desperately wanting to help you. So there are people who care! Don’t be distracted by the ones who don’t.

SillyScallion · 04/09/2025 23:41

Hi love, I’m sorry I’ve read your replies, though not everyone else’s and it makes me so so sad to read them.

You seems so very lovely, though you’ve been beaten down emotionally over the years and now accept less than the bare minimum in terms of treatment, heck how that dickhead man and your horrific brother act isn’t even how you should treat an animal. Alongside your mother, your ex and that deranged minister I’d say you’ve had more than your share of hell, and I’m so sorry.

Kindness is a very under appreciated trait, and sadly one that narcissists, especially covert ones like the fuck boy seems to be, take advantage of as they’re never really able to be happy and suck all of the happiness and goodness from their supplies.

As a naturally overly kind and compassionate person who gives too much too, I understand how hard having boundaries can seem when you just want to love and be loved in return in the same fashion. Sadly, this leads to abuse and disappointment most of the time.

I hate to say it but that anger you had towards your brother needs to be used to stand up to him and all the other fuckers in your life, you need to start being tougher, holding boundaries and looking after your own heart as nobody will ever be able to do that again if you can’t protect yourself. The next time twatface tries to talk to you tell him to fuck off and walk away. Nothing more nothing less, grey rock. He doesn’t deserve the steam off your shits. He deserves to be alone and rot. When your brother calls tell him your solicitor will be in touch and you do not wish to speak to him any further directly. Stop being passive, stop being kind, stop letting people put your light out.

Its really hard, I have learnt this the hard way, but you cannot let people take the goodness from you and make you hollow, you’re wonderful and sweet and you don’t deserve to put up with anyone’s BS, ever.

Ruralretreating · 05/09/2025 01:07

OP, I haven’t read whole thread but wanted to recommend a book called “It begins with you” by Jillian Turecki. A friend brokenhearted after a hot/cold situationship with a guy she worked with (nowhere near as abusive as yours has been) said it helped her more in two days than 6 months of therapy (her therapist didn’t sound great tbh!). It’s about boundaries and healthy relationships but very compassionate and not victim-blaming. Wishing you all the best because you sound lovely.

TheAverageJoanne · 05/09/2025 09:43

@Ruralretreating I downloaded that on audible last night and listened to some of it. Sounds good.

Itsalittlewetout · 05/09/2025 09:54

We have to remember in a relationship that it’s a two way street. We don’t concentrate on them liking us, we also need to look at whether we are liking them. Do they come to us, do they make us want them, do they do anything for us. What is this person going to do for me! It is not selfish! A relationship is an investment that we put in and we must also be able to take out of! There is no point adding money to a bank account that you can never draw from.

YourBrickTiger · 05/09/2025 12:42

Brunettesmorefun · 04/09/2025 17:15

I’m so sorry OP. He sounds horrible and you are worth so much more than that. Please don’t let it affect you as it was not your fault. It does seem as though you were a little infatuated with him but haven’t we all been there at some point?
This is not you … it is him. I hope you can build up your confidence again.

What’s wrong with being infatuated?? Does that mean I ruined it?

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