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YourBrickTiger · 15/07/2025 14:23

Hi - I am just hoping for a little help here...haven't been through a situation like I'm currently experiencing and it's very painful to the point of making me sick.

If I can kindly ask that no one advises against workplace romances, as I work with several couples, some of whom are married and even one who is divorced. I know a lot of people in my place of work who met here and are now married and still working together. So I thought it was ok for me too.

I don't have a support system. My parents have both passed away and friends that I do have keep everything at a surface level, which has made me unable to discuss this, therefore I apologise in advance for the length. I can't face anymore harsh criticism, so if you don't have time to read this as I understand it is very long, or you are critical of me, please be kind. I'm blaming myself enough.

I met a man, a colleague who I really liked, about 8 years ago, admired from afar as he was married and never gave it much thought other than I thought he was a really nice decent man. A few years after we started working together, he told me that his second marriage was on the rocks and that he felt unlovable. I told him that I thought he was very lovable and made a joke that if I'd marry him if they were to split. Again, didn't pay it too much mind and thought nothing would ever happen, went about my life. Another few years passed without incident.

As Covid was coming to an end, and with his marriage over, we had been getting on very well at work and one night out of the blue, he rang me and we talked for 5 hours about everything and anything. I had been single for a long time after an abusive relationship with a man from outside the UK who just disappeared on me one night after living together for almost a year. At this point, I hadn't had a relationship in 11 years and wasn't looking but I was really really drawn to this guy at work. We had a lovely conversation but again, nothing much to report afterward.

A couple of months later, I plucked up the courage to ask him if he'd like to have another phonecall (facetime). We were essential workers and still in the cloud of the pandemic so thought this was the best approach. I wasn't prepared for his response. At this point he was 49 years old, he stood up, started to rub his chest, said 'oh God no no...oh no...this is making me really uncomfortable...' and left the room. I had rehearsed this in my head all day waiting for the right moment and this happened. I was completely mortified, hurt and eventually went home and beat myself up for not being cool enough or maybe even good enough for him. When I woke up the next morning he had called me three times and sent me messages to see if I was ok. I texted back how shocked I was and how I had obviously misread the signals, but told him he was someone I had grown to like very much and that it wasn't my intention to upset or scare him. When I got back to work a few days later, he'd stopped speaking to me.

This went on for a couple of weeks so I just kept my head down and got on with it. Another two weeks passed and all of a sudden, he was trying to make me laugh again, which he always could. I was relieved he seemed ok, but just left him to it. We started to get on better, and for his 50th I bought him a silly gift, no one else in his life seemed to make an effort, so I wanted to do something for him. On one of our dates he told me that his friends dog had used it as a chew toy. (It was a bottle opener made from wood).

We would be here all year if I told you the full story but although he and his wife didn't divorce, they separated, and he said he wanted nothing to do with women for a year. This to me was fine and healthy but he made a huge announcement to me about it. Feeling it safe, I said 'well if after that year is up, would you like to have a coffee with me?' and he said 'yes...I will have a think about that'.

No more than 2 weeks passed, when we were alone and he asked me out. I was elated! We set a date and he was calling me and texting me in the build up to it. All his nerves seemed to have gone. He sent me photos of himself, went through my socials and complimented me on my photos. He even sent me a few intimate pics. In work that day he kissed me for the first time.

We had arranged for him to come to my home, as I knew him so well this wasn't an issue and we were going to have a few drinks. I made a real effort, scrubbed the house until it was shining, and made myself look really nice, I thought. He arrived at the time we arranged. We sat down for our first drink and he immediately started to become nervous again. He admitted to being nervous and I just soothed him, telling him to relax, it was just me etc...but he said 'no no I have to leave'. He was only with me despite the massive build up for 5 minutes. I was completely and totally distraught and thought it must be something to do with my looks, or weight etc. I'm not stick thin and quite curvy but he had been paying me so many compliments I thought he was attracted.

I had the awful situation of having to face him again in work but I just tried to walk past him with a brief hello. It was agonising - he did attempt a short apology but in his words it was 'sorry about everything I just got all'...and made this funny noise that you would make as if you were shivering or something.

I had developed feelings by this point but just had to try to get on with it. I was hit with various other awful things like him accusing me of stalking one of his exes. He blew up at me in work as I had clicked on her profile when she came up as a friend suggestion. It was genuine. She is friends with my cousin and I have family in the area he is from. He defriended me from facebook as I had clicked 'like' on this ladies nails, and then once I realised who she was I unliked it. Thinking no harm done, but he found out. He was SO angry with me. It crushed me that he had deleted me and when I tried to explain the family connection, he put his hand up in front of me and said 'I don't want to hear it'. When I said 'Please let me explain!' he shouted 'F* off' at me infront of my colleagues.

There is a lot of other stuff that has happened but that Christmas he approached me again after he started talking to me again and we slept together. He told me he knew how much I had fallen for him and that he just needed time as he admitted he didn't know what he was doing with his life. I told him to take all the time he needed. A few days later, he stopped speaking to me again. He approached me for another date which I agreed to and at the time he was due to meet me, he cancelled, saying he wasn't quite ready.

Then he came round again - this time my idea I admit it as I couldn't let him go. We became more involved and he came to my home, asked to see my family albums, made me promises about holidays, the future, said I didn't have to be concerned about money anymore (I'm very independent so it isn't a money issue anyway but was nice to have support). We were close, talking on the phone, being intimate, he even said 'imagine how everyone in work will feel when they find out we've been together for like 8 months' or something..! He told me he wanted me to meet his family, and let me facetime with his sister. It was clear she knew who I was and paid me lots of compliments, telling me she only wanted him to be happy. I said I would never hurt him and would always try to make him happy. He told his sister that I would do anything for him and he told me he felt I was his soulmate. He told other people (who told me) that he had told them he knew I had fallen for him and that I was a lovely girl who would make a wonderful wife.

On the day we were due to meet his family, his whole demeanour changed. We woke up and even his facial expressions were different. He said 'I have to go now' and when I enquired about the family he said 'we'll do it another time'. He assured me he wasn't coming back but I didn't hear from him for 5 days. He sent a text to say he wanted to be alone, he didn't love me, he knew I loved him, that all it was was 'sex and a drink', and that he knew I'd react badly and he had to go because I was stressing him out.

I totally and completely fell apart but managed to sort of hold it together at work. Despite his text, a month later he approached me again, asking for another chance and when I asked him why he had told me he didn't want me, his explanation was that he had just freaked out because he knew I had such deep feelings. Of course I agreed. Nearly as soon as I agreed, he turned cold. Despite the fact we'd made a date, he became cold with me. When I asked him why, he said 'I'm not going back there, I can't do it'.

This was the only time that I visibly cracked at work. Someone saw me crying and told my colleague who told him. He became so so angry with me that he arranged a meeting with me and my boss in which he said in front of my boss 'I did not make love to you - I f*** you'. My boss said nothing. He told me he could 'get any girl in a bar and take her home' and told me that I had caused him a total nightmare.

I took some time off work and when I returned I didn't go near him. But apparently made one fatal mistake. I borrowed his coffee cup. One day when I forgot my own, I used his. Washed it thoroughly and put it back. He found out about this too because someone started to tease him about me using it and he apparently laughed. But with me it was a different story. He took the cup home and said 'I don't like anyone using my stuff'. Despite having been in my home etc.

For the next month he stopped talking to me and texted my colleagues to say things like 'Tell her I'm hiding in the toilets' or 'has she gone yet?'. I was so devastated because all I had done was borrowed a cup. I hadn't bothered him, begged him, stalked him, annoyed him, nothing at all. I had left him alone. I begged my boss to talk to him, to get him to stop and he said he would not speak to him, but would keep an eye on it. It continued for over a month with no help until I begged my boss. I was so humiliated and because of this, decided to move to a different department.

On the day that I moved, the guy was coming out of the department I work in. I don't know why he was there but he shouted 'Good luck in the new job!' at me and walked on. I have rarely seen him since but if I do bump into him he is very nice, talkative wants to show me pictures on his phone etc. I do not understand this behaviour. He was hiding from me, but now he's being nice?

Because of everything that has happened, I have become a shell of myself. I work alone now, with very little interaction with anyone, I've isolated myself and feel like everyone hates me or doesn't want me around. He has remained in his position, which I guess is down to me as I didn't make a fuss as I would never have wanted him to be hurt. So I've carried it all. I felt I had up to a point a good relationship with my former boss but he didn't speak out for me or help me with some of the language that was used, the hiding in the toilets and the silent treatment that the guy inflicted in work. I've heard rumours of being called names like Baby Reindeer which I never was. I never stalked him, called him repeatedly, went to his home, didn't do anything harmful to him at all. He said that 'you went about it all the wrong way'. I have never asked a guy out before so that was a huge knock.

His kids don't talk to him anymore and I had hoped he would be able to reconcile whatever happened with my help but it's never happened. He told me his ex wife has turned them against him.

I've come away thinking that I'm a freak, that there is something the matter with me because I fell for someone who I genuinely liked. It is killing me, I've had to have therapy but nothing is convincing me that I didn't cause this by loving him and by believing he was just scared and giving so many chances. There are days I just don't cope at all, then days I really do, and days I really miss him so so much. I believed he was a different man, I still do believe he's lost and afraid but I don't know why he had to do this to someone who had been so kind to him and loving for so long, even when we weren't together. My fear is now that I'm no good for anyone and never will be. I'm 49 now and can't get past it. No matter what I try to do it's like a black cloud hanging over me. I really doubt myself now, all my interactions with people and fear because I'm not picture perfect, or picture thin that this happened to me due to that. To me he is very handsome, so maybe that's it? I am so scared for my future now, and my health is declining. I didn't know it was such a crime to be in love but if someone does hide from me in the bathroom, it surely means I'm repulsive? Out of everything I had shared with him and everything he knew, the hiding is probably the worst. I have thought of ending my life because if I am that bad what is the point, but I am trying to believe that maybe this isn't my fault? I just don't know anymore and thank you from the bottom of my heart to anyone who takes the time to read this and for letting me talk.

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Bittenonce · 04/08/2025 12:02

@YourBrickTiger relax! The dread was just fear of you saying how low you were or hearing of some new horror from him!

PeggyMitchellsCameo · 04/08/2025 12:33

@YourBrickTiger try to concentrate on replacing old with new. So your ex friend/colleague was very cold, but your newer colleague was really kind, warm
and comforting.
Try, if you can, to give emphasis to the kinder reaction, rather than the cold one.
As for dread, I do get that you take things very literally.
You think a poster dreads you as a person. They don’t.
The word ‘dread’ I took as being you having made absolutely no progress. And when posters are offering advice, it is tough when there are no shifts.
But there are definite shifts in your post and you have done really well.
The best thing for you will be a time when you barely think of him. That won’t be a sadness, it will be a gift.

NotOurCat · 04/08/2025 13:11

@YourBrickTiger brilliant! Great dopamine list! Add to it as you think of other things you enjoy 😉 You seem to like films too. Make a separate list of ones you really like - then you can hunt them out when you feel low. Your weekend sounded great!

YourBrickTiger · 04/08/2025 13:59

NotOurCat · 04/08/2025 13:11

@YourBrickTiger brilliant! Great dopamine list! Add to it as you think of other things you enjoy 😉 You seem to like films too. Make a separate list of ones you really like - then you can hunt them out when you feel low. Your weekend sounded great!

Thank you - I was alone for all of it but I'm ok on my own if I know I have things coming up. A lot of people think that's sad though.

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GwendolineFairfax8 · 04/08/2025 13:59

@YourBrickTiger

You made me so happy to think I helped in some small way.

Your weekend sounds absolutely lovely and I hope you will look forward to this coming one knowing that you have the freedom to do the same all over again - without that hideous individual dragging you down. Your ‘friend’ is awful and most of us have known people like her who betray you when you need them most.

Not everyday will be a positive day, but keep posting regardless because there are so many of us routing for you - and that means in bad times (when you need to vent) as well as good.

By the way, I’m with you on the word ‘dread’ and my heart sank for a moment too - probably just someone writing in a hurry.

Branleuse · 04/08/2025 14:08

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Wantosleep39 · 04/08/2025 14:09

Op, I have to say you sound like a very kind and thoughtful person. You come across as the kind of person that if I were in trouble I could turn to you and you would help me. That is the impression I get.

Like everyone else, you probably have some flaws too. One that stands out just from reading your posts is that you may overthink things a lot, which can be a bit exhausting for others. Of course I might be wrong, but that is how it seems based on what you have shared.

Despite receiving so many amazingly helpful replies you continue to ask the same questions. You also tend to pick out one word from a perfectly supportive and helpful response and see it as negative. If you behave like this with your friends too that might be one reason some have distanced themselves.

You mentioned that one of your friends only replies with emojis. That tells me they might be afraid to say anything real because they do not want to offend you. If you react strongly to every small thing that can be very draining for others OP. It might be something worth working on.

I say this with no judgment because I have my own flaws too. Everybody does.

But let me be clear, you absolutely do not deserve abuse because of your flaws. You do not deserve bad behaviour. No one should treat you poorly just for being who you are.

People might take a step back and that is okay. I have been there too. I can be quite intense myself and one of my friends suddenly stopped contacting me. At the time, I was really, really hurt. But now I understand she did what was best for herself. And I have other good friends who love me as I am. Not every friendship is meant to last and not everyone is meant to be in your life forever.

I also had to end a friendship recently. I told her honestly that the quality of our friendship was not good enough and I could not continue. It was not all her it was me too. The friendship just did not work. So what I am saying is: no one has the right to abuse or mistreat anyone but they do have the right to walk away.

You seem like a really good person. I just noticed something in you that you might want to work on. I have worked on my own flaws and it has helped. Of course I am still me and I can only change so much. But now I have built friendships with people who love me and accept me as I am and I have learned not to take it personally when someone does not want to stay.

It still hurts when it happens but I understand now.

Christwosheds · 04/08/2025 14:10

StrawberryWater · 15/07/2025 14:44

Firstly, I agree with the other poster. Op you need therapy and look into a freedom program.

Secondly, it sounds like you has a lucky escape from this man. He sounds completely mental and off his rocker. Hes this deranged now, imagine how awful he’d be in a proper relationship. He has two ex wives for a reason and his kids don’t speak to him for a reason, he’s got a mile wide red flag. Stop speaking to him, even in the corridor and find somewhere else to work if you have to.

Agree with all of this.
He sounds an absolute nightmare, he’s horrible OP, he isn’t a nice prospect as a boyfriend and that was clear from the off by the sound of it.

YourBrickTiger · 04/08/2025 14:25

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No I don't have learning disabilities and the fact that you don't seem to be able to recognise the positivity in my latest posts and have glossed over what I've written is also bizarre, offensive and really cruel. I'm not 'fixated' on men. He was my first relationship in 13 years. I hadn't even slept with anyone. I'm not sure how you thought blaming me (which is what I've done for a year) is helpful?

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YourBrickTiger · 04/08/2025 14:38

Wantosleep39 · 04/08/2025 14:09

Op, I have to say you sound like a very kind and thoughtful person. You come across as the kind of person that if I were in trouble I could turn to you and you would help me. That is the impression I get.

Like everyone else, you probably have some flaws too. One that stands out just from reading your posts is that you may overthink things a lot, which can be a bit exhausting for others. Of course I might be wrong, but that is how it seems based on what you have shared.

Despite receiving so many amazingly helpful replies you continue to ask the same questions. You also tend to pick out one word from a perfectly supportive and helpful response and see it as negative. If you behave like this with your friends too that might be one reason some have distanced themselves.

You mentioned that one of your friends only replies with emojis. That tells me they might be afraid to say anything real because they do not want to offend you. If you react strongly to every small thing that can be very draining for others OP. It might be something worth working on.

I say this with no judgment because I have my own flaws too. Everybody does.

But let me be clear, you absolutely do not deserve abuse because of your flaws. You do not deserve bad behaviour. No one should treat you poorly just for being who you are.

People might take a step back and that is okay. I have been there too. I can be quite intense myself and one of my friends suddenly stopped contacting me. At the time, I was really, really hurt. But now I understand she did what was best for herself. And I have other good friends who love me as I am. Not every friendship is meant to last and not everyone is meant to be in your life forever.

I also had to end a friendship recently. I told her honestly that the quality of our friendship was not good enough and I could not continue. It was not all her it was me too. The friendship just did not work. So what I am saying is: no one has the right to abuse or mistreat anyone but they do have the right to walk away.

You seem like a really good person. I just noticed something in you that you might want to work on. I have worked on my own flaws and it has helped. Of course I am still me and I can only change so much. But now I have built friendships with people who love me and accept me as I am and I have learned not to take it personally when someone does not want to stay.

It still hurts when it happens but I understand now.

Thank you for writing this. I of course would always try to help you if needed, same with anyone who needs me.

I feel a bit deflated now by some of the other comments. I did do my best all weekend to take on board the advice but today there is criticism. I don't have learning disabilities, I have been to college, got good exam results etc. I was only late diagnosed ADHD and it scares me. To hear that I'm more likely to become obsessed/fixated is a terrifying thought for me. How do I distinguish between my condition and how I was treated by this man? That's really confused me. I mean yes I fell deeply for him but every time I was pushed away, I went. I've never stalked, bothered or been a nuisance to him.

I have just tried to be the best I can be - I admit I can be intense, but what about the fact that I lost my folks, and have had to handle it pretty much alone? I didn't make a fuss or bother, but none of my 'friends' came after Mum's funeral. No visits or anything. I didn't ask them to, I invited but no one came. Am I supposed to have stopped crying for her at the funeral? I don't have anyone who accepts me or loves me as I am, so I either have to change, or just nod and not speak. I am not permitted to be myself.

Yikes, feel like crying now, sorry.

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PeggyMitchellsCameo · 04/08/2025 14:51

Learning resilience (and I had to learn it) is taking in other people’s words and dismissing what’s useful or not. It is a skill, and you have to practice it.
You already know you have been treated badly, that you have every right to cry when a parent dies, or that a friend has been shitty.
You already know that - that’s your own intuition. Go with that.
If someone says something different, well, they are not you. They view you through their own prism of life experiences, which may be so different to yours.
Having a personal anchor, inside you, is what keeps you steady. You still had a great weekend.
Writing about it wasn’t a homework for a teacher to mark, and you didn’t get the grade you wanted. You described your weekend very eloquently. Whatever anyone else thinks, well, that’s their world. You don’t have to justify that you did your best, and feel deflated if someone else doesn’t reflect that back.
You know you had a great, positive weekend. That is all that matters.
What you have to do is allow you to be yourself.

CampCrow · 04/08/2025 15:17

Sounds like a good positive weekend. I’m impressed and I love the list of your qualities. None of those surprise me.

Im sorry seeing that woman at work upset you. I really really think you need to look for a new job.

Finally, it’s been said before, but I hope you remember that a no one on this thread knows you and we are only giving advice based on your posts. It’s always going to be disjointed advice and It’s never going to replace seeing a proper qualified person.

YourBrickTiger · 04/08/2025 15:34

PeggyMitchellsCameo · 04/08/2025 14:51

Learning resilience (and I had to learn it) is taking in other people’s words and dismissing what’s useful or not. It is a skill, and you have to practice it.
You already know you have been treated badly, that you have every right to cry when a parent dies, or that a friend has been shitty.
You already know that - that’s your own intuition. Go with that.
If someone says something different, well, they are not you. They view you through their own prism of life experiences, which may be so different to yours.
Having a personal anchor, inside you, is what keeps you steady. You still had a great weekend.
Writing about it wasn’t a homework for a teacher to mark, and you didn’t get the grade you wanted. You described your weekend very eloquently. Whatever anyone else thinks, well, that’s their world. You don’t have to justify that you did your best, and feel deflated if someone else doesn’t reflect that back.
You know you had a great, positive weekend. That is all that matters.
What you have to do is allow you to be yourself.

If people leave though how do I know it's not my fault? How do I know that my 'fixations' or intensity or whatever isn't to blame for his abuse?

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PeggyMitchellsCameo · 04/08/2025 16:13

YourBrickTiger · 04/08/2025 15:34

If people leave though how do I know it's not my fault? How do I know that my 'fixations' or intensity or whatever isn't to blame for his abuse?

He is to blame for the abuse.
He didn’t target you due to fixations, or ADHD, or being intense.
He targeted you because he’s an abuser, you work in an environment which tolerates abuse, he was fishing around looking for attention and most importantly of all, you were vulnerable due to grief.
The final one there is the most important one.
He already knew you had some admiration for him, but you being in grief allowed him to
get you on a hook very easily.
Whatever you count as personality quirks or traits, which we all have, doesn’t mean they deliver abusers to your door. Being vulnerable is what does that.
His treatment of you isn’t even that personal. He doesn’t see other people as you do. To him they are sources of validation.
If a man’s own children disown him, and have been treated badly by him, then that tells you everything.

YourBrickTiger · 04/08/2025 16:21

PeggyMitchellsCameo · 04/08/2025 16:13

He is to blame for the abuse.
He didn’t target you due to fixations, or ADHD, or being intense.
He targeted you because he’s an abuser, you work in an environment which tolerates abuse, he was fishing around looking for attention and most importantly of all, you were vulnerable due to grief.
The final one there is the most important one.
He already knew you had some admiration for him, but you being in grief allowed him to
get you on a hook very easily.
Whatever you count as personality quirks or traits, which we all have, doesn’t mean they deliver abusers to your door. Being vulnerable is what does that.
His treatment of you isn’t even that personal. He doesn’t see other people as you do. To him they are sources of validation.
If a man’s own children disown him, and have been treated badly by him, then that tells you everything.

Thanks Peggy. Sometimes I wonder I would just be better being robotic, not engaging or speaking, like one of those AI dolls.

He claims his ex poisoned the kids against him.

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Bittenonce · 04/08/2025 16:29

@YourBrickTiger your thread has attracted a lot of attention. Yes, you’ve had a lot of support and good advice from some caring and emotionally aware people: But there will also be some posts that are hurtful, ill considered, from people who haven’t read properly, don’t understand, who can’t see the impact their comments might have on you. You need to treat those ones the same way as communication from the people in real life who don’t care or treat you well. Just walk on by, ignore them, don’t let stupid or uncaring people get you down. It’s been said many times on this thread but I’ll repeat it: Its not you, it’s them. You don’t need to change anything - except the company you keep!

PeggyMitchellsCameo · 04/08/2025 17:20

YourBrickTiger · 04/08/2025 16:21

Thanks Peggy. Sometimes I wonder I would just be better being robotic, not engaging or speaking, like one of those AI dolls.

He claims his ex poisoned the kids against him.

Well they all claim that don’t they?
He IS the poisonous ex!!!
Honestly, you’ve been very brave telling your story on here as I never have. And it’s like a car-crash in slow-motion, whatever I’d have to say….
Always look at a decade change as a big deal. I’d lost my parents by 50 and that’s when I realised… everybody eventually leaves, even the people you love the most.
That sounds tragic, but it’s not, it’s a chance for a different kind of freedom.
And believe me, I never, ever thought I’d change my life and I am nearly ten years older than you.
Mental health care in the 80’s and 90’s was appalling. I got to read my medical notes a couple of years ago and I can remember crying. But then realising - we know better now.
I should imagine lots of people left my life because, to be frank, I was awful to be around, and I’m an okay person.
Then my best friend said to me….
Peggy whenever we talk, you are upset, in tears, then there is another crisis. And when you are talking I say ‘I’m so sorry’ but really I’m thinking about what to get in for tea.
Let’s just say… she has no filter!
And it reminded me, while I was sitting in my room agonising over every single that had ever happened in my world, other people were getting on with living. And they get hurt too, and care, and have their own issues.
The lady who brought you the chocolate? Thank her. She may have stuff going on, but she made a point of being kind.
While you are worrying about the ex friend, you have a person with your empathy level in front of you… with chocolate!
One thing I can say. Walking away from drama, dramatic men, dramatic friends… my life is a bit boring in comparison now.
Risky, edgy, do-they-love-me types can actually be addictive. When you get attention from them, you can feel a bit special.
Sadly, they come with a price.
You have a life to live and even just planning your meals and being kinder to your body - a small step on a huge journey.

YourBrickTiger · 04/08/2025 17:56

PeggyMitchellsCameo · 04/08/2025 17:20

Well they all claim that don’t they?
He IS the poisonous ex!!!
Honestly, you’ve been very brave telling your story on here as I never have. And it’s like a car-crash in slow-motion, whatever I’d have to say….
Always look at a decade change as a big deal. I’d lost my parents by 50 and that’s when I realised… everybody eventually leaves, even the people you love the most.
That sounds tragic, but it’s not, it’s a chance for a different kind of freedom.
And believe me, I never, ever thought I’d change my life and I am nearly ten years older than you.
Mental health care in the 80’s and 90’s was appalling. I got to read my medical notes a couple of years ago and I can remember crying. But then realising - we know better now.
I should imagine lots of people left my life because, to be frank, I was awful to be around, and I’m an okay person.
Then my best friend said to me….
Peggy whenever we talk, you are upset, in tears, then there is another crisis. And when you are talking I say ‘I’m so sorry’ but really I’m thinking about what to get in for tea.
Let’s just say… she has no filter!
And it reminded me, while I was sitting in my room agonising over every single that had ever happened in my world, other people were getting on with living. And they get hurt too, and care, and have their own issues.
The lady who brought you the chocolate? Thank her. She may have stuff going on, but she made a point of being kind.
While you are worrying about the ex friend, you have a person with your empathy level in front of you… with chocolate!
One thing I can say. Walking away from drama, dramatic men, dramatic friends… my life is a bit boring in comparison now.
Risky, edgy, do-they-love-me types can actually be addictive. When you get attention from them, you can feel a bit special.
Sadly, they come with a price.
You have a life to live and even just planning your meals and being kinder to your body - a small step on a huge journey.

None of my friends - none of them - have lost a parent. All are married and some have kids. I feel like if I even mention my Mum Dad or how my only brother cracked up at me in front of a team of nurses and hit me with a walking stick that I’m troubling their day. In comparison and not to be selfish their lives are pretty non eventful. It’s not my fault people die, but the biggest vibe I get from them is that it isn’t ok to talk. I don’t burden them. But I think being left for 6 years without a visitor but being ok with me always going to them is pretty off as well as selfish. I don’t mean to bring another issue in - I’m just illustrating what I go through. I thought friends were there for you. Mine only seem to be there as long as all in the garden is rosy. I really have went out of my way for them, especially the one with kids but there is literally always an excuse. So I’ve sort of learned to cope alone as best I can, and just accepted that I will likely always be alone. It’s just hard discovering you don’t really mean anything to anyone. When you open up to someone you think of as a friend by asking for some help and their response is ‘what’s it about? I’m trying to stay positive’ (and you’ve just been clobbered with a walking stick) you do tend to clam up.
Add that to HIS behaviour and you just start to believe yourself unworthy. Anyway, another long winded explanation sorry.

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PeggyMitchellsCameo · 04/08/2025 18:39

You are at a life stage different from your friends. If and when they lose their parents, they will get it.
I can promise you it’s not that you don’t mean anything to them. People get wrapped up in their own worlds, and when kids come along, it’s a major life change.
Their idea of being there for an any friend changes. It’s not bad, it’s not even personal.
You need to find your tribe. Go back to your choir. Become a volunteer. Find something which sparks something.
Your brother - most people just don’t know what to do with the experiences you’ve had with him. That’s when speaking to a professional helps, they are trained to listen.

Sunflowers67 · 04/08/2025 20:31

I am so sorry that you are going through all this - it is the absolute pits isn't it?
At my grand old age I really thought my life was sorted, with the man I loved, hard times and sad times behind me, just content in the security of knowing all was good. Until it no longer wasn't.
Recovering from someone who has abused us is major work. There is no easy fix to it. To get out, we must go through.

In the last three months I have learnt so much about myself, about the relationship, why I choose men like him, how to recover and heal - but it just isn't bloody quick enough!
All you can do is look after you, carry tissues with you, treat yourself, have things to look forward/ or force yourself to do in your diary.

My good times at the moment involve the animals, an adult education course that I forced myself to do and now really enjoy, binge watching Netflix with a bag of marshmallows and dogs on my lap, a smelly candle burning and a huge mug of tea. It gives my mind two or three hours from the distraction of grief, hurt, pain and confusion.

Being on your own can and will be comforting to you - in time. You will start to realise that being on your own doesn't mean you are lonely or sad or unlovable.
It means you love you and that will be enough.

My diary for this week says - car in garage, weed the garden, food shopping, pay the council tax, my adult ed class and a new yoga group. I will let you figure out which ones I am looking forward to!

I have also just realised that actually looking forward to things is an alien feeling for me too! It has not happened in so many years so I count that as some progress on this crappy road to recovery.

What have you got planned for this week? #YourBrickTiger

🌻

MuckFusk · 05/08/2025 03:43

YourBrickTiger · 04/08/2025 15:34

If people leave though how do I know it's not my fault? How do I know that my 'fixations' or intensity or whatever isn't to blame for his abuse?

You know because that's never why habitual abusers do it. It's about them, not the victim. It might be possible that somebody would find something you did annoying, lose their temper and make a verbally abusive comment, but it wouldn't be a pattern unless abuse is in their character. That's just how it is. Your case is no different than other cases of domestic abuse in that respect. It's about the abuser's desire to control, dominate and be sadistic.

YourBrickTiger · 05/08/2025 19:39

I saw him today. I was in the carpark and he came in as we were both leaving at the same time. I didn’t expect to see him. He clocked me and was so so nice. He said hello by my name and asked me how I was and how I was doing. I just mumbled I’m ok. He said a little about what his day had entailed before we both went to our separate cars. Not the actions of someone who is uncomfortable around me.

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MaryGreenhill · 05/08/2025 19:51

This is not your fault @YourBrickTiger
You are not a freak. If anyone is a freak it's him 😒
You are kind, loving, and worthy.
He treated you badly, that’s on him, not you.
You deserve much better than him and you will heal in time .
Wishing you all the best sweetheart.

YourBrickTiger · 05/08/2025 19:57

MaryGreenhill · 05/08/2025 19:51

This is not your fault @YourBrickTiger
You are not a freak. If anyone is a freak it's him 😒
You are kind, loving, and worthy.
He treated you badly, that’s on him, not you.
You deserve much better than him and you will heal in time .
Wishing you all the best sweetheart.

That’s really kind Mary thank you. It’s like I’ve said to the others I thought if someone treated you so badly it meant there was something wrong with you (me).

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TheAverageJoanne · 05/08/2025 20:06

YourBrickTiger · 05/08/2025 19:39

I saw him today. I was in the carpark and he came in as we were both leaving at the same time. I didn’t expect to see him. He clocked me and was so so nice. He said hello by my name and asked me how I was and how I was doing. I just mumbled I’m ok. He said a little about what his day had entailed before we both went to our separate cars. Not the actions of someone who is uncomfortable around me.

Don't respond. He's trying to hoover you back in. Just grey rock him.

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