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YourBrickTiger · 15/07/2025 14:23

Hi - I am just hoping for a little help here...haven't been through a situation like I'm currently experiencing and it's very painful to the point of making me sick.

If I can kindly ask that no one advises against workplace romances, as I work with several couples, some of whom are married and even one who is divorced. I know a lot of people in my place of work who met here and are now married and still working together. So I thought it was ok for me too.

I don't have a support system. My parents have both passed away and friends that I do have keep everything at a surface level, which has made me unable to discuss this, therefore I apologise in advance for the length. I can't face anymore harsh criticism, so if you don't have time to read this as I understand it is very long, or you are critical of me, please be kind. I'm blaming myself enough.

I met a man, a colleague who I really liked, about 8 years ago, admired from afar as he was married and never gave it much thought other than I thought he was a really nice decent man. A few years after we started working together, he told me that his second marriage was on the rocks and that he felt unlovable. I told him that I thought he was very lovable and made a joke that if I'd marry him if they were to split. Again, didn't pay it too much mind and thought nothing would ever happen, went about my life. Another few years passed without incident.

As Covid was coming to an end, and with his marriage over, we had been getting on very well at work and one night out of the blue, he rang me and we talked for 5 hours about everything and anything. I had been single for a long time after an abusive relationship with a man from outside the UK who just disappeared on me one night after living together for almost a year. At this point, I hadn't had a relationship in 11 years and wasn't looking but I was really really drawn to this guy at work. We had a lovely conversation but again, nothing much to report afterward.

A couple of months later, I plucked up the courage to ask him if he'd like to have another phonecall (facetime). We were essential workers and still in the cloud of the pandemic so thought this was the best approach. I wasn't prepared for his response. At this point he was 49 years old, he stood up, started to rub his chest, said 'oh God no no...oh no...this is making me really uncomfortable...' and left the room. I had rehearsed this in my head all day waiting for the right moment and this happened. I was completely mortified, hurt and eventually went home and beat myself up for not being cool enough or maybe even good enough for him. When I woke up the next morning he had called me three times and sent me messages to see if I was ok. I texted back how shocked I was and how I had obviously misread the signals, but told him he was someone I had grown to like very much and that it wasn't my intention to upset or scare him. When I got back to work a few days later, he'd stopped speaking to me.

This went on for a couple of weeks so I just kept my head down and got on with it. Another two weeks passed and all of a sudden, he was trying to make me laugh again, which he always could. I was relieved he seemed ok, but just left him to it. We started to get on better, and for his 50th I bought him a silly gift, no one else in his life seemed to make an effort, so I wanted to do something for him. On one of our dates he told me that his friends dog had used it as a chew toy. (It was a bottle opener made from wood).

We would be here all year if I told you the full story but although he and his wife didn't divorce, they separated, and he said he wanted nothing to do with women for a year. This to me was fine and healthy but he made a huge announcement to me about it. Feeling it safe, I said 'well if after that year is up, would you like to have a coffee with me?' and he said 'yes...I will have a think about that'.

No more than 2 weeks passed, when we were alone and he asked me out. I was elated! We set a date and he was calling me and texting me in the build up to it. All his nerves seemed to have gone. He sent me photos of himself, went through my socials and complimented me on my photos. He even sent me a few intimate pics. In work that day he kissed me for the first time.

We had arranged for him to come to my home, as I knew him so well this wasn't an issue and we were going to have a few drinks. I made a real effort, scrubbed the house until it was shining, and made myself look really nice, I thought. He arrived at the time we arranged. We sat down for our first drink and he immediately started to become nervous again. He admitted to being nervous and I just soothed him, telling him to relax, it was just me etc...but he said 'no no I have to leave'. He was only with me despite the massive build up for 5 minutes. I was completely and totally distraught and thought it must be something to do with my looks, or weight etc. I'm not stick thin and quite curvy but he had been paying me so many compliments I thought he was attracted.

I had the awful situation of having to face him again in work but I just tried to walk past him with a brief hello. It was agonising - he did attempt a short apology but in his words it was 'sorry about everything I just got all'...and made this funny noise that you would make as if you were shivering or something.

I had developed feelings by this point but just had to try to get on with it. I was hit with various other awful things like him accusing me of stalking one of his exes. He blew up at me in work as I had clicked on her profile when she came up as a friend suggestion. It was genuine. She is friends with my cousin and I have family in the area he is from. He defriended me from facebook as I had clicked 'like' on this ladies nails, and then once I realised who she was I unliked it. Thinking no harm done, but he found out. He was SO angry with me. It crushed me that he had deleted me and when I tried to explain the family connection, he put his hand up in front of me and said 'I don't want to hear it'. When I said 'Please let me explain!' he shouted 'F* off' at me infront of my colleagues.

There is a lot of other stuff that has happened but that Christmas he approached me again after he started talking to me again and we slept together. He told me he knew how much I had fallen for him and that he just needed time as he admitted he didn't know what he was doing with his life. I told him to take all the time he needed. A few days later, he stopped speaking to me again. He approached me for another date which I agreed to and at the time he was due to meet me, he cancelled, saying he wasn't quite ready.

Then he came round again - this time my idea I admit it as I couldn't let him go. We became more involved and he came to my home, asked to see my family albums, made me promises about holidays, the future, said I didn't have to be concerned about money anymore (I'm very independent so it isn't a money issue anyway but was nice to have support). We were close, talking on the phone, being intimate, he even said 'imagine how everyone in work will feel when they find out we've been together for like 8 months' or something..! He told me he wanted me to meet his family, and let me facetime with his sister. It was clear she knew who I was and paid me lots of compliments, telling me she only wanted him to be happy. I said I would never hurt him and would always try to make him happy. He told his sister that I would do anything for him and he told me he felt I was his soulmate. He told other people (who told me) that he had told them he knew I had fallen for him and that I was a lovely girl who would make a wonderful wife.

On the day we were due to meet his family, his whole demeanour changed. We woke up and even his facial expressions were different. He said 'I have to go now' and when I enquired about the family he said 'we'll do it another time'. He assured me he wasn't coming back but I didn't hear from him for 5 days. He sent a text to say he wanted to be alone, he didn't love me, he knew I loved him, that all it was was 'sex and a drink', and that he knew I'd react badly and he had to go because I was stressing him out.

I totally and completely fell apart but managed to sort of hold it together at work. Despite his text, a month later he approached me again, asking for another chance and when I asked him why he had told me he didn't want me, his explanation was that he had just freaked out because he knew I had such deep feelings. Of course I agreed. Nearly as soon as I agreed, he turned cold. Despite the fact we'd made a date, he became cold with me. When I asked him why, he said 'I'm not going back there, I can't do it'.

This was the only time that I visibly cracked at work. Someone saw me crying and told my colleague who told him. He became so so angry with me that he arranged a meeting with me and my boss in which he said in front of my boss 'I did not make love to you - I f*** you'. My boss said nothing. He told me he could 'get any girl in a bar and take her home' and told me that I had caused him a total nightmare.

I took some time off work and when I returned I didn't go near him. But apparently made one fatal mistake. I borrowed his coffee cup. One day when I forgot my own, I used his. Washed it thoroughly and put it back. He found out about this too because someone started to tease him about me using it and he apparently laughed. But with me it was a different story. He took the cup home and said 'I don't like anyone using my stuff'. Despite having been in my home etc.

For the next month he stopped talking to me and texted my colleagues to say things like 'Tell her I'm hiding in the toilets' or 'has she gone yet?'. I was so devastated because all I had done was borrowed a cup. I hadn't bothered him, begged him, stalked him, annoyed him, nothing at all. I had left him alone. I begged my boss to talk to him, to get him to stop and he said he would not speak to him, but would keep an eye on it. It continued for over a month with no help until I begged my boss. I was so humiliated and because of this, decided to move to a different department.

On the day that I moved, the guy was coming out of the department I work in. I don't know why he was there but he shouted 'Good luck in the new job!' at me and walked on. I have rarely seen him since but if I do bump into him he is very nice, talkative wants to show me pictures on his phone etc. I do not understand this behaviour. He was hiding from me, but now he's being nice?

Because of everything that has happened, I have become a shell of myself. I work alone now, with very little interaction with anyone, I've isolated myself and feel like everyone hates me or doesn't want me around. He has remained in his position, which I guess is down to me as I didn't make a fuss as I would never have wanted him to be hurt. So I've carried it all. I felt I had up to a point a good relationship with my former boss but he didn't speak out for me or help me with some of the language that was used, the hiding in the toilets and the silent treatment that the guy inflicted in work. I've heard rumours of being called names like Baby Reindeer which I never was. I never stalked him, called him repeatedly, went to his home, didn't do anything harmful to him at all. He said that 'you went about it all the wrong way'. I have never asked a guy out before so that was a huge knock.

His kids don't talk to him anymore and I had hoped he would be able to reconcile whatever happened with my help but it's never happened. He told me his ex wife has turned them against him.

I've come away thinking that I'm a freak, that there is something the matter with me because I fell for someone who I genuinely liked. It is killing me, I've had to have therapy but nothing is convincing me that I didn't cause this by loving him and by believing he was just scared and giving so many chances. There are days I just don't cope at all, then days I really do, and days I really miss him so so much. I believed he was a different man, I still do believe he's lost and afraid but I don't know why he had to do this to someone who had been so kind to him and loving for so long, even when we weren't together. My fear is now that I'm no good for anyone and never will be. I'm 49 now and can't get past it. No matter what I try to do it's like a black cloud hanging over me. I really doubt myself now, all my interactions with people and fear because I'm not picture perfect, or picture thin that this happened to me due to that. To me he is very handsome, so maybe that's it? I am so scared for my future now, and my health is declining. I didn't know it was such a crime to be in love but if someone does hide from me in the bathroom, it surely means I'm repulsive? Out of everything I had shared with him and everything he knew, the hiding is probably the worst. I have thought of ending my life because if I am that bad what is the point, but I am trying to believe that maybe this isn't my fault? I just don't know anymore and thank you from the bottom of my heart to anyone who takes the time to read this and for letting me talk.

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MNpenisadvisor · 01/08/2025 10:38

YourBrickTiger · 01/08/2025 10:37

You think? In what way?

Really op? Are you listening to anything anyone has said?!

YourBrickTiger · 01/08/2025 10:40

MNpenisadvisor · 01/08/2025 10:38

Really op? Are you listening to anything anyone has said?!

Can you please stop criticising me? You don't have to take part. I've tried to explain my thought process here and I now feel you're, with respect, just deliberately having a go. I don't think or process the way you do, or the way you think I should! Please just stop!

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Sunflowers67 · 01/08/2025 10:49

He had been drinking but the lack of tenderness is another thing that made me feel not worthy and a bit disgusting.

We just don't listen to how people make us feel enough - we tend to stick to their actions and try to make sense of what we see, rather than what we feel.
Then we argue with ourselves that it must have been something we did wrong.
I can wholeheartedly understand this one!

My partner was the same - he made me feel like an inflatable doll. Simply there to meet his needs when and how he wanted. No compassion, no tenderness, no hugging or snuggling - just a roll on/roll off, breathe some alcoholic vapours in my face and then leave me feeling disgusted with myself/him. Then I would blame myself in some way for making him like that.

LOVE DOES NOT LOOK OR FEEL LIKE THAT.

Just keep writing it all down and please do consider speaking to someone professional about all of this. I know it can be expensive - but honestly, I would rather not eat for a few days than miss my counselling sessions! It will help you to understand that you were used and abused by this nasty little man.

🌻Hugs x

PeggyMitchellsCameo · 01/08/2025 10:54

YourBrickTiger · 01/08/2025 10:37

You think? In what way?

Ask yourself this to clear your thoughts:

This man is in the company of a woman he knows is vulnerable, after her mother has passed away. He somehow encourages her to move into her mother’s former bedroom, climbs on top of her, and then leaves her the next day.

In what way would you qualify this man in any way as a success?

YourBrickTiger · 01/08/2025 10:54

Sunflowers67 · 01/08/2025 10:49

He had been drinking but the lack of tenderness is another thing that made me feel not worthy and a bit disgusting.

We just don't listen to how people make us feel enough - we tend to stick to their actions and try to make sense of what we see, rather than what we feel.
Then we argue with ourselves that it must have been something we did wrong.
I can wholeheartedly understand this one!

My partner was the same - he made me feel like an inflatable doll. Simply there to meet his needs when and how he wanted. No compassion, no tenderness, no hugging or snuggling - just a roll on/roll off, breathe some alcoholic vapours in my face and then leave me feeling disgusted with myself/him. Then I would blame myself in some way for making him like that.

LOVE DOES NOT LOOK OR FEEL LIKE THAT.

Just keep writing it all down and please do consider speaking to someone professional about all of this. I know it can be expensive - but honestly, I would rather not eat for a few days than miss my counselling sessions! It will help you to understand that you were used and abused by this nasty little man.

🌻Hugs x

Thank you for your care and time. I'm sorry it happened to you.

I do have a session next week with this EAP thing. I don't know how much they will be able to help. Someone suggested Women's Aid too, but I feel ridiculous doing that as I was never beaten. I continue to believe that all this happened to me simply because I'm not a picture perfect model. I think in all honesty that is my biggest barrier. If my body was slim and perfect this wouldn't have happened. I need to tell the counsellor that I guess.

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PeggyMitchellsCameo · 01/08/2025 10:58

Slim women with perfect bodies get cheated on all the time. Most men I know think Kylie Minogue is slim, petite and gorgeous. She’s been cheated on a fair few times.
Men who cheat, cheat. They don’t care how slim their partner is. It is about their own need for something - validation, ego, something else.
If you can take that it in, it will certainly help.

YourBrickTiger · 01/08/2025 11:02

PeggyMitchellsCameo · 01/08/2025 10:54

Ask yourself this to clear your thoughts:

This man is in the company of a woman he knows is vulnerable, after her mother has passed away. He somehow encourages her to move into her mother’s former bedroom, climbs on top of her, and then leaves her the next day.

In what way would you qualify this man in any way as a success?

Oh wow....put like that it makes me feel sick...who would do that to someone? See I just assumed it was my belly...

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PeggyMitchellsCameo · 01/08/2025 11:06

YourBrickTiger · 01/08/2025 11:02

Oh wow....put like that it makes me feel sick...who would do that to someone? See I just assumed it was my belly...

He would because he’s abusive. There is no thought for you as a human, you just supplied attention.
Size 8 or 18, he’s still sick.
Just my personal opinion, I found that hanging my hat on another issue saved me from grieving a parent. I spent a lot of energy on this issue, to avoid the real one - the real loss of someone I truly loved.

YourBrickTiger · 01/08/2025 11:19

PeggyMitchellsCameo · 01/08/2025 11:06

He would because he’s abusive. There is no thought for you as a human, you just supplied attention.
Size 8 or 18, he’s still sick.
Just my personal opinion, I found that hanging my hat on another issue saved me from grieving a parent. I spent a lot of energy on this issue, to avoid the real one - the real loss of someone I truly loved.

Obviously Mum and Dad have been huge losses,and the lack of support from friends, but I did have true feelings for this guy and just thought I'd finally got a shot of happiness, the way other people do. Thought it was finally my turn.

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PeggyMitchellsCameo · 01/08/2025 12:00

We don’t get turns. We get a life and people come and go.
He was an opportunity and while it has been awful, you can learn what you don’t want or need.
With some space, and healing, you can have a happy life and meet someone decent.

YourBrickTiger · 01/08/2025 12:07

PeggyMitchellsCameo · 01/08/2025 12:00

We don’t get turns. We get a life and people come and go.
He was an opportunity and while it has been awful, you can learn what you don’t want or need.
With some space, and healing, you can have a happy life and meet someone decent.

I highly doubt I will ever trust again but I would like to be able to feel better about myself and be happy even if that doesn’t include a relationship. I just feel violated. I guess even the way he would talk to me isn’t normal or right. Very much like a teenage boy. He said in front of my manager that he was only with me because he was horny.

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ArsenicAlice · 01/08/2025 12:09

YourBrickTiger · 01/08/2025 12:07

I highly doubt I will ever trust again but I would like to be able to feel better about myself and be happy even if that doesn’t include a relationship. I just feel violated. I guess even the way he would talk to me isn’t normal or right. Very much like a teenage boy. He said in front of my manager that he was only with me because he was horny.

I saw up the thread someone said he is a failure and you asked why. You've just supplied one of the million and one reasons why in this post. Think about the others. Make a list. You're going to need a roll of wallpaper!!

PeggyMitchellsCameo · 01/08/2025 12:30

Here’s a request, have a try? Write a post where you don’t mention him or bring it back to him.
Write a post just about you, list 5 successes of yours and they can be anything.

RedRock41 · 01/08/2025 12:45

OP I am really sorry you are so broken. You don’t deserve the pain you’re feeling. There are still lots of kind people in the world but if it’s any consolation likely most on MN will have experienced their fair share of low life’s too so not just you.
Take some time off sick to get well again and come to terms with everything if you can. You aren’t annoying anyone by saying how you feel and anyone who doesn’t want to listen doesn’t need to.
It is possible to love someone and that not be requited. Have confidence in how you feel or felt as no one has a right to second guess that.
One thing I’ve noticed is you ask consistently if you are good enough. Your self worth being at least to some extent dependent on others views. Remember lots of others are idiots though so not worth caring what they think.
Your ex-‘friend’ should never of asked you to do what she did. That reflects on her. A real friend wouldn’t. Hard to tell sometimes when people have bad intentions so don’t beat yourself up over that either.
I expect the feedback from your choir group, who want nothing from you is much more dependable and they think you’re lovely so spend your time and energy around those similar.
Also remember the key question is: were any of these people good enough for you - clearly they weren’t.

TheAverageJoanne · 01/08/2025 19:46

PeggyMitchellsCameo · 01/08/2025 12:30

Here’s a request, have a try? Write a post where you don’t mention him or bring it back to him.
Write a post just about you, list 5 successes of yours and they can be anything.

What a good idea try this @YourBrickTiger

GwendolineFairfax8 · 02/08/2025 10:20

YourBrickTiger · 01/08/2025 09:30

Thank you everyone. Something just came back to me too that I thought was maybe normal at the time until I put it in context. On the night he asked me to move into my mother's room, he was on top of me but he wasn't very tender or loving about this - he said 'it's not happening' as he tried to you know...there was no kissing or anything after, and I remember thinking it's one of those things but I was hurt. He left me the next day. He had been drinking but the lack of tenderness is another thing that made me feel not worthy and a bit disgusting.

@YourBrickTiger this so absolutely vile no wonder you are traumatised.

To anyone who questions why this poor lady is trying to seek some outlet for her grief and should instead stop talking about him and her ‘friend’ (who betrayed her) and take up a hobby or get a new job - like it is that simple should not bother commenting. You make matters worse - if she could simply move on and forget this ingrained abuse do you not seriously think she would.

You won’t believe it OP but very very slowly it will get better - so keep posting. There are many of us on here who are willing to listen to you and have been in similar situations where friends they have helped along the way have betrayed them when they were needed the most. Someone will be reading this now in the same position - you were brave enough to post but you will be helping them.

I remember you wrote you are part of a choir - I hope you feel able to keep taking part as singing can be healing. The fact that you get out of bed in the mornings when you want to hide and make the pain go away shows that you are stronger than you know.

Sunflowers67 · 02/08/2025 10:36

I love the list idea about you. We do focus so much on them when we are traumatised and healing that we forget to pat ourselves on the back.
Without being too telling, tell us a little about you.

Were you a good daughter, are you kind to animals, did you manage to have a shower today even! These are all achievements.

Remember that you are a good person that had the misfortune to meet a few people that were not. It happens to us all and we still get up each morning, feed ourselves, get washed and dressed, go to work, do some shopping, pay our bills - when we have been so badly hurt these are all huge achievements.

I am going to start a memo board at home - filled with pictures from magazines of places I want to see, books I want to read, things I want to learn and little post it notes of the good things about me.

I think we all need reminding now and then of just how amazing we all are.

What plans do you have this weekend YourBrickTiger buying a cream cake and sitting in the park? Starting a book, visiting the library, popcorn and a film under a fleecy blanket, buying a scented candle, having a long soak in the bath with a posh bubble bath - anything you like! Just have a little plan and do it. It doesn't matter if you cry through it, just do it! 🌻

PeggyMitchellsCameo · 02/08/2025 10:57

@Sunflowers67 I learned through trauma therapy that when you are stuck in loop, you do try and tell yourself you are okay now, but it is like your brain is an email server, and the server is down.
You do stuff to be ok and keep sending emails but the server… still down.
I had something called EMDR which really helped but over time you need to replace new patterns to reboot the server.
When I am really not good I have a little toolkit…
My favourite comedies to watch
A little photo album
A list of the things I have achieved
Another one with happy times on it
A playlist of uplifting songs
They are reminders that there are good events, and people, even if they did happen in the past. Proves they do happen.
Most of our processes are set in childhood and then we often look to a new person to help us reset them so we can feel
okay. As we get older we feel a man can be a ‘last chance’ and it’s fruitless.
Because when vulnerable we don’t attract someone who wants to help, we attract someone who wants to harm. You know from your recent experiences that they don’t care about the harm they do.
But there is hope, and there is recovery, but it can only start from within.

NotOurCat · 02/08/2025 12:17

Love the idea of a list. Another thing you could do is list things you enjoy. Favourite films. Favourite books, TV episodes, anything. I've got a list on my phone called 'Dopamine list'. Just listing things that give you that little boost. Some of mine are the smell of grass after rain, looking at art supplies and seeing cherry blossom. Try it? Then you can look at it and it really does cheer you up, at least a bit!

Wantosleep39 · 04/08/2025 00:11

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Wantosleep39 · 04/08/2025 00:13

YourBrickTiger · 21/07/2025 15:37

Thank you for checking on me and again, huge thanks to everyone who replied and who has provided such great advice.

It's very much a day by day thing I'm finding. Saturday was a wash out, I was exhausted and slept a lot. Sunday was much better, got up early and set about doing my housework which always helps me for some reason.

I'm doing ok, just a lot of intrusive thoughts and still unfortunately worried sick about the female supervisor/ex friend I referred to. I understand her promotion has changed things but I genuinely thought she cared about me, so it's another blow to feeling more alone. I'm trying for my own sake just to see her as a colleague now. I wake up in the middle of the night wondering why, when we were there for each other and I helped her through a LOT, why she doesn't keep in touch. She has referred to 'the guy' as a dickhead and did try many times to warn me. I have asked her so many times if something is wrong and she says she is just completely overwhelmed by the new job.

There are a few more things I'd like to disclose and then I think it's time to stop as I've melted your heads for long enough. There has been some great advice here, such as the EAP programme. I have looked into that and we do have it. Unfortunately I feel I will need a lot more than the 6 sessions they offer.

Hearing from others that my experience has been 'horrific' and 'the worst' that some have heard of, has been in a strange way, very reassuring. I'm totally alone and without a family to run things by it's been so hard to get my own head around this. I have no understanding and can't accept why especially with losing my parents, why friends have just vanished. There is no one that seems to really care. So your advice has meant a lot to me and your support.

To those who haven't believed me, I hope you are never in a position where you are doubted when you are scared and need support.

So things (at least some of them) that I hadn't mentioned and am struggling to understand:

People advised I block him, but he blocked me over the scene with his ex on fb. He has blocked and unblocked me and same with his phone number. Only unblocked when he wanted me, any other time it was blocked again. So if he blocked me does that mean I'm the problem?

One minute I was his soulmate, then I was nothing, then I was someone who he would do anything for, then I was 'colleagues only', after everything. This crippled me because the man who sat in my home and was so caring to me, who was he? How can anyone be so cold like that? He was sending me nudes, videos, hundreds of texts...how do I switch that off and suddenly become a colleague? He makes it sound so easy where it torments me and I've had to hide away and make it my new normality.

A while ago, we were working on an evening thing at work and I had to make hand written signs to advise closing the next day due to a storm. He walked in and immediately said 'who made those? They are so unprofessional!' I could feel the tears coming, as I had done my best. I was about to ask him politely if he could print some off for me as my card wasn't working and he cut me off before I had the chance and made an angry cat noise as if I was being catty to him. I wasn't. When I tried to pacify him by saying his name he mimicked me back, in front of my colleagues. I had to leave early as the tears were just ready to flow. Only a month before this, I had passed my condolences to him in a card when a loved one of his died. He told me it was a really nice thing to do and seemed very touched. So why a few weeks later would he be so awful? Then a few weeks after that he attempted to show me pictures on his phone, and said 'Oh I haven't seen you in such a long time!'

He accused me of trying to control him to love me, whereas I just thought I was starting a relationship the way everyone does. I wasn't controlling, I tried to do everything he asked. But his take on relationships seems to be that you have to be IN LOVE straight away. Am I right in thinking it's usually something that builds over time? He seemed unwilling to let anything grow, it almost had to be INSTANT or nothing. My feelings had developed for years over time and from a distance, even when he wasn't aware. Our first date he announced, 'Im not in love with you yet..' but I wouldn't have expected him to be.

The constant head melting has me not knowing who I am, if I'm coming or going. I am soothed by many of your comments into knowing that I am not totally at fault and that his behaviour isn't normal. I'm very grateful.

OP, you have asked these questions before and have already received many thoughtful and supportive answers. I know you have read them all, but you are still asking the same questions again. There has been little sign of progress, and that is disheartening.

A lot of people have taken the time to write long, loving, and supportive replies. They truly care. Please show us that those efforts mean something by trying to make some progresseven just a little. Go back and read those responses again if you need to.

That man is horrible. No one deserves abuse, and no one is ever to blame for being mistreated. There is no excuse for his behaviour. Why is he doing all these awful things to someone so kind and loving? The answer is simple: because he is a terrible person. That is it. That is the only explanation you need.

You are a good person, and I truly wish you all the best.

YourBrickTiger · 04/08/2025 11:19

Hi... I guess the reason why it seems that there has been no progress is because deep down, I'm afraid if I try to move on, without figuring it all out, that it will be like it didn't happen, that he didn't exist..and that I won't get the bottom of whether or not there's something fundamentally wrong with me that caused this. Like if I move on, I will suddenly be hit with something that means I was the one at fault all along.....

I had a bit of a blip on Friday, over that female colleague again. I saw her unexpectedly as she was coming into one of the offices to speak to a colleague. She barely said hello, said what she needed and left. It's like it would kill her to even say 'how are you?' I know it sounds really daft, but I started to sob. My other colleague noticed something was wrong and came to find me a while later. Although she isn't good at discussing these sort of things, she brought me some chocolate to try to cheer me up. For some reason this woman is causing me real moments of panic and real despair. I need help to stop thinking about her and particularly the imaginary scenarios that haven't happened that I keep on making up in my head.

BUT, I waited until today to tell you what I tried over the weekend. Thank you to @PeggyMitchellsCameo for the suggestion. I tried really hard.

Friday - I went home, glad it was Friday, decided to get myself some nice treats as I had been paid, and really wanted to chill out in front of the tv with something nice to eat. I love being at home and especially spending time with my pets who are a comfort to me. Sorry for the information but my period came, and I have noticed that my brain tends to become even MORE haywire than normal at this time of the month. I don't know if anyone has any recommendations about anything that can help with crazy overthinking behaviour around period time - please note I am an overthinker anyway but it's even worse during time of the month. I watched a couple of my favourite shows and really tried to focus on them, put down my phone for a while, didn't look at FB or bad news. Went to bed at a decent time.

Saturday - For some bizarre reason, I get a kick out of doing my housework. I really enjoy my Saturdays at home and love being able to do things at my own pace. I decided to try to really focus on my tasks, but also on the likes of my breakfast - the smell of coffee, the lovely food (I LOVE EGGS), just enjoying not being at work. 'He' is always at the back of my mind but I tried to tell myself 'it is his loss, I loved him and look what he did' - if he popped in there for even a minute. It was sunny on Saturday so I let the fresh air in through the windows, and just pottered about. Had a takeaway in the evening and watched a really good movie, again just focussing on THAT and doing my best not to think about other stuff.

Sunday - Had a lie in and then decided to go and do a bit of shopping. Nothing extravagant but just needed a few new things. I want to start addressing my diet so I made a list of healthy breakfasts and lunches and got the ingredients for them. I really enjoy experimenting and love seeing new colours and flavours and achieving a recipe. My plan - if it works! - is to avoid going to Tescos so much, in an attempt to save money and to cook with what I have before buying new stuff. So I made my breakfast and lunch for Monday. I made a check list of things I HAVE to do this week and paid a very important bill. With everything that has happened as well as ADHD, I can neglect bills and have to focus, so I do this by making lists. I did some laundry, enjoyed time with my pets and..... I started to read 'Mr Unavailable and The Fallback Girl' which I ordered after it was recommended here (Thank you! I will likely have questions about it!) Had something to eat and watched another movie - I love doing that, movies provide such an outlet for me.

Other updates:

I am not at the stage yet where I include 'HIM' in this, but I've also made a decision to stop running after friends who have shown me that they have no problem in not running after me. PS this does NOT mean I'm running after him! But... The person I thought was my closest girlfriend has not visited me once since my Mum died nearly 6 years ago. It's always me going to her. I'm lucky if I get any sort of a response from her other than an emoji, and I've put a LOT of effort into that friendship. It's very hurtful but I'm so tired of it. My brother has mental health issues and no longer speaks to me but when he was in hospital a while back, I told her and she said 'Oh I can't talk for long I'm at work'. He had been really abusive to me at the hospital, threatening to get a restraining order against me if I didn't leave him alone (I got him into the hospital) and he really is the only family I had left. She doesn't seem to care at all and she has on the surface of it a picture perfect life, so I am trying really hard just to train my mind into focussing on myself. I hadn't mentioned my brother until now as sadly we don't speak now, and it just felt like another huge blow after the guy, to be abused by two men I love.

And for @PeggyMitchellsCameo I thought of a list:

I guess 5 things about me:

  1. I'm very loyal.
  2. I absolutely adore animals, more than people and will protect and fight for them until my last breath.
  3. I'm creative - and I have some talent in writing
  4. I try to be kind
  5. I'd never intentionally hurt anyone.

In terms of dopamine:

  1. Animals, all shapes and sizes, they fascinate me and bring me a lot of peace.
  2. Candles.
  3. Movies and chinese food together.
  4. Anything Halloween related.
  5. Smell of cinnamon.
  6. Nice nails.
  7. Freshly made bed, sage colour
  8. Sound of rain
  9. Warm sun
  10. Massages

I am by no means all the way there yet, so I hope I don't have to stop posting, but I wanted to give you some positive news from the weekend.

Also a special thank you to @GwendolineFairfax8 for speaking out for me and for taking a stand for me. I really deeply appreciate it and your post meant the world to me. Thank you. x

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Bittenonce · 04/08/2025 11:32

@YourBrickTiger when I see you’ve posted, I must admit I feel some dread and trepidation at looking! But…. You’re not doing so bad! I thought I was an over-thinker, but you still beat me hands down 😂 , however:
I’d guess the only thing that disappointed me was that there was no mention of your choir - it sounded like something that gave you social contact with good people who appreciate you, that’s something you should do more of! If spending 8 hours a day working with unpleasant people is your main human contact, it’s always going to be tough to get out of your rut. As others have said, getting out of that workplace should definitely be in your plans, but until then, you need more time with good people outside of work.

Sunflowers67 · 04/08/2025 11:46

I'm on the run this morning (late for a therapy appointment that I need!) but I wanted to say a huge well done to you!
Just keep posting.

My list is very similar to yours - movies/Chinese food/animals more than people/writing/candles/home/the sound of rain/the sun on my back.

We are amazing people and they had set their sights far too high for what they could offer us. Sadly, we now have to heal from that. But I know we will xx

YourBrickTiger · 04/08/2025 11:59

Bittenonce · 04/08/2025 11:32

@YourBrickTiger when I see you’ve posted, I must admit I feel some dread and trepidation at looking! But…. You’re not doing so bad! I thought I was an over-thinker, but you still beat me hands down 😂 , however:
I’d guess the only thing that disappointed me was that there was no mention of your choir - it sounded like something that gave you social contact with good people who appreciate you, that’s something you should do more of! If spending 8 hours a day working with unpleasant people is your main human contact, it’s always going to be tough to get out of your rut. As others have said, getting out of that workplace should definitely be in your plans, but until then, you need more time with good people outside of work.

Oh no! Dread?? :( I'm sorry! Maybe that's what HE saw...they see?

Choir is finished for summer but we are meeting again for a social outing in a few weeks. Dread? Oh I have to work on that. I did try hard this weekend!

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