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Deprioritised in father's will in favour of step-family

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MyFunSloth · 13/07/2025 18:41

Pre-warning, this is a long read about family dynamics. It mentions step-parents and inheritance and I’m prepared to put my hard hat on regarding people cheekily expecting money from their parents, but please remember this is real people I am writing about.

My father had three children with my mum. I am the youngest and have an older brother and sister.

When I was 6 my mum had an affair and my parents’ marriage began to collapse into vicious rows in front of us. We grew up inside this unhappy atmosphere. Eventually when I was 8 (my older brother and sister 12 and 15), my dad moved out and they divorced.

He bought a flat in the same town and we saw him 2-3 times a month, never overnight. The rest of the time, we lived with my mother. After the divorce she became highly unstable - my dad had always been the “calm one” and without him around her fiery temper grew out of control.

As kids, we had the outward signs of being middle class (Sunday school at church, grammar school education, detached house), but behind the scenes my mum was physically violent to us and emotionally abusive, oscillating between periods of incredible love (holiday to Disneyland, elaborate birthday parties) and unhinged behaviour (irrational screaming, storming in and out of the house, hitting us).

The separation hit my father hard and he had a mini-breakdown. He was just about able to continue working. He owned his own business and was a higher earner although not “rich”.

As children, our relationship with our dad was friendly but distant. He would take us out for dinner and the cinema and occasionally on holiday. But there was a superficiality to things. He was reluctant to know too much about our home life. At times he felt like a kindly uncle rather than my dad and he stepped back to let her make all decisions about schooling, life admin, etc.

After a few years he met a woman ten years younger. It was a long time before he introduced us to her. She had a daughter from a previous marriage who was my age. Unlike the image of an evil stepmother, she was a nice woman. Straightforward and made an effort to be friendly. She had been a nurse and was a single parent, who had had a tough childhood. She hasn’t worked since being with my dad. As a kid, I sometimes felt jealous that my dad now had a new daughter the same age as me, who lived with him and benefited from his time and resources, but I just learned to deal with it.

My mum did not remarry and grew bitter about my dad moving on. His business flourished and he invested in several properties including a lavish holiday home in Spain.

Mum’s career developed so she enjoyed a comfortable life, but she struggled before eventually (20 years ago) meeting a kindly widower who brought a new sense of calm into her life. Since then her personality has improved a huge amount. She has apologised for the difficulties of our childhood and been eager to support her three kids with help for home deposits, despite her relatively unflashy lifestyle. She is now 80. Our relationship is not perfect, but for better and for worse she has made an effort. I’ve had therapy to understand why she is the way she is, and it’s helped me to lay the past to rest.

After several years my dad married his new partner, and they have now been together a total of thirty years - he is 80, she is 70. None of his children were invited to their wedding, although her daughter was. We were told afterwards, which was humiliating at the time.

Five years after they married, my dad’s new wife had a spectacular falling-out with my sister over a disagreement. She refuses to be in the same room as my sister and won’t facilitate contact. My dad won’t challenge this despite my sister begging to apologise. As a result, my dad sees his daughter and her children only once a year. My sister is devastated about this but has had to accept it.

More generally, our relationship with our dad has remained distant. Like many older parents, he is fond of telling us about what his neighbours are up to, or to talk about politics, but he shows very little deep interest in our lives, careers, families, etc. He gave all of his children financial support at university (monthly “pocket money” to see us through) but has provided zero financial support in the twenty-plus years since we graduated. (Many people would say this is quite appropriate given we are all grown-ups, and I don’t disagree).

Our relationship is still in the kindly uncle stage and he is very resistant to deepening it beyond being quite superficial. Birthday cards, Christmas cards, and a couple of dinners out per year where I hear the same old stories. I’ve tried to open up to him about the past but it’s clear the mental scars of the divorce remain for him and he is totally incapable of addressing the past, which I’ve had no choice other than to respect.

Both my parents are now old and have had health scares. My mum has prepared her will to leave the majority of her assets to her three kids.

I saw my dad for lunch last week and he raised the topic of his own will, without any prompting for me. He told me that he expects his wife to outlive him (not unreasonably given she’s ten years younger) and the plan is for half to go to her daughter (50%), and the other half to be split three ways between his kids (17%).

Here’s the AIBU. This conversation has hit me like a ton of bricks. I’ve been unable to sleep and felt upset ever since I found out.

This may sound weird, but it doesn’t feel it’s really about the money. (That old adage that when someone’s response to something seems irrational, it’s about something more than the thing it seems to be about).

I was expecting that he would choose with my step-mother to split the estate four ways, which means my share would be 25% - not that much different from the 17% I may get in this plan. Rationally, it’s not something to get worked up about especially as no-one knows what the future holds (bear in mind we are probably talking about assets of over £2m).

What has floored me is what this means emotionally to me. Not the money. I have always felt that my dad abandoned us when I was only 8. That he moved on with his life, even married someone with a daughter of the same age as me, and then just discharged a kind of genteel minimum in our relationship ever since. He left his children in the care of a woman who he knew was mentally unstable, who hit his children. Despite accruing significant wealth in the years since, he hasn’t made an effort to use it to bring us together, no big holidays for all his children and grandchildren. He’s enjoyed business class holidays while his elder daughter has scrimped and saved to provide for her kids. And all along, he’s just continued with an arms-length relationship with us.

On some level I always had an unspoken feeling that underneath it all, we still had a fundamental importance to him. In a crazy way I felt that although he let me down so many times through my life, his last act would be to see us right. This news makes it feel like that’s not the case.

I don’t know if I need to give my head a wobble and see this as merely behaviour that’s been consistent with his relationship with us his entire life.

I’m expecting people to say that this is just gold-digging or highly entitled. Maybe it is and I’m just shocked about having a slightly smaller inheritance. But it genuinely feels like it’s not about the money, it’s about what it says about how he has never prioritised me ever, how I will never really have been at the forefront of my dad’s mind. Even his own flesh and blood takes second rank here and I don’t know how to really process how that makes me feel.

I don’t know whether to tell my dad how this makes me feel, or whether to keep silent. Or whether to take this as the signal that our relationship will never really mean that much to him and that I need to finally emotionally disengage from him.

I don’t know what I’m asking for here. Please be kind.

OP posts:
Calliopespa · 14/07/2025 17:26

Helpmeplease2025 · 14/07/2025 17:20

This. It’s amazing how many people seem to think assets are in marriage should be divided in half, unless one spouse is a second spouse, where people seem to think they should never gain anything, even if they’ve been married 30/40 years

Because facts change facts.

What people are saying is where there is a previous family, it isn't right for the subsequent family to come out better off.

At the juncture of embarking on a second marriage, a parent should ensure their biological children are protected. FWIW if I was marrying someone who already had children, it would be a pre-requisite for me that he ring-fenced or had some other arrangement so that my entry on the scene did not prejudice those children.

Whosenameisthis · 14/07/2025 17:28

NoNameMum · 14/07/2025 17:21

I see what you’re saying. But can see that it’s divided 50/50 between his heirs and her heirs.
i felt simarly around my grandparents estates.
My mum died when I was 8.
When her parents subsequently passed away, all their 4 grandchildren (myself, my brother and my 2 cousins) got 3000 each and the remainder went to my uncle as their only surviving child.
However said uncle is now in his 80s and still has the house and all the assets. When he passes away it will go to my 2 cousins as his heirs.
Had my mum still been alive it would have been split between them when my grandparents died and then her portion would ultimately be passed on to myself and my brother.
There’s been no falling out but we don’t see my uncle and cousins much, but I do feel resentment every time I drive passed the house that has been in my mums family for over 100 years knowing that it’ll probably just be sold and the proceeds go to my cousins, especially as my cousins have no children and so my son will be the only blood relation of my maternal grandparents in the next generation.

that’s unusual, normally there’s a clause in wills where if a child predeceases a parent their share goes to their children.

did you see the will?

Whosenameisthis · 14/07/2025 17:37

Calliopespa · 14/07/2025 17:26

Because facts change facts.

What people are saying is where there is a previous family, it isn't right for the subsequent family to come out better off.

At the juncture of embarking on a second marriage, a parent should ensure their biological children are protected. FWIW if I was marrying someone who already had children, it would be a pre-requisite for me that he ring-fenced or had some other arrangement so that my entry on the scene did not prejudice those children.

How do you know his marriage did prejudice his previous children?

you don’t know their financial set up, so why are you assuming he is entitled to leave the bulk of their marital assets to his own children?

marriage may have benefitted him, rent free house for example. You have no idea.

Doidontimmm · 14/07/2025 17:39

This is what we have done. Our estate is 50:50. My half is split between my 2 kids and my DH half between his one. That’s fair surely as otherwise he is giving part of his estate to my children. It’s not his fault he has one & I have 2?

Calliopespa · 14/07/2025 17:40

Whosenameisthis · 14/07/2025 17:37

How do you know his marriage did prejudice his previous children?

you don’t know their financial set up, so why are you assuming he is entitled to leave the bulk of their marital assets to his own children?

marriage may have benefitted him, rent free house for example. You have no idea.

Because op says her DF had a business already which flourished, and the SM didn't work. The clear impression was that OP did not feel her DF had married a goldmine; that would have been a relevant piece of information to impart.

Alltheyellowbirds · 14/07/2025 17:40

Whosenameisthis · 14/07/2025 17:13

He’s not giving “far more” to one child.

his wife owns 50% of the assets. He can’t leave his wife’s half to anyone.

he has split all his assets between his 3 kids, he hasn’t left the step child anything.

I thought we were talking about HIS will, ie HIS assets? And he was giving half of his to the step-daughter and splitting the rest between his children.

Thats what I took from OP, and the reason she is upset. If I misunderstood and it is as you describe then that’s different - and is in fact what I just said is more normal 😆

Helpmeplease2025 · 14/07/2025 17:45

Doidontimmm · 14/07/2025 17:39

This is what we have done. Our estate is 50:50. My half is split between my 2 kids and my DH half between his one. That’s fair surely as otherwise he is giving part of his estate to my children. It’s not his fault he has one & I have 2?

I read it as this is exactly what is happening

NoNameMum · 14/07/2025 17:54

Whosenameisthis · 14/07/2025 17:28

that’s unusual, normally there’s a clause in wills where if a child predeceases a parent their share goes to their children.

did you see the will?

No. It was back in the 90s and myself and my brother were only late teens. At the time we were thrilled with 3000. It was only later that I thought about it. I assume my grandparents redid their wills after my mum died.

GiveDogBone · 14/07/2025 18:10

He’s being perfectly reasonable. This is entirely different situation from spitting your estate amongst one set of children which should almost always be done equally.

I mean his relationship with your mother was terrible and emotionally scarred him for the rest of his life. It wasn’t long in the context of his life. He’s had little contact with you and is very happy with his new family which he’s had for far, far longer than with your mother.

He’s dividing his estate in half, half to his new family and half to his previous one. Some would say that’s generous.

Finally, you have no chance of overturning the will, you’ve not relied on him financially and he has provided for you. Frankly he could cut you out the will if he wanted and that would probably be ok.

Calliopespa · 14/07/2025 18:13

GiveDogBone · 14/07/2025 18:10

He’s being perfectly reasonable. This is entirely different situation from spitting your estate amongst one set of children which should almost always be done equally.

I mean his relationship with your mother was terrible and emotionally scarred him for the rest of his life. It wasn’t long in the context of his life. He’s had little contact with you and is very happy with his new family which he’s had for far, far longer than with your mother.

He’s dividing his estate in half, half to his new family and half to his previous one. Some would say that’s generous.

Finally, you have no chance of overturning the will, you’ve not relied on him financially and he has provided for you. Frankly he could cut you out the will if he wanted and that would probably be ok.

Oh quite right @GiveDogBone. As you say, he's looked at it from his perspective. how things impacted HIM and that's what every good parent should do after all ...

frogpigdonkey · 14/07/2025 18:18

@MyFunSlothim so sorry for all the hurt you have from your father. I agree with others that the split is in many ways fair from some perspectives but also that the pain you feel in yet another confirmation that he hasn’t been there for you is justified. The will is just a physical confirmation of that. I had a lot of counselling after I had a very extreme reaction to an objectively fairly minor setback at work and it was all to do with rejection and unresolved emotions around my father. I wouldn’t be inclined to have a confrontation with him but think about what you want and can accept from the relationship, and learn to accept that he won’t be what you want.

Aimtodobetter · 14/07/2025 18:18

MyFunSloth · 13/07/2025 23:37

The hard facts are that many would argue the monetary split is fair. Rationally I see this, I don’t need to be told “yabu” about this as I acknowledge that this is probably precedent and arguably merited. And in any case I don’t believe I can somehow argue them round, and I don’t intend to try to do so, partly because I think it probably would be unfair of me (as well as likely fruitless).

What I was struggling with in my original post is that whatever I feel about the money, what’s been stirred up is a chain of events that goes right back to my earliest memories and all through a very difficult childhood, and then an adulthood of general disengagement from someone whose love I desperately wanted.

The “reasonableness” of the wills is moot, what I wanted to explore here is how do I resolve the feelings that have been stirred up, which is a separate thing.

Whether or not this is a justified split, it feels like the latest in a long line of let-downs from my dad. He’s chosen to be at arm’s length throughout my life. It may be that this split is totally fair, but it’s opened my eyes to the fact that everything that has come before it has been half-arsed “parenting”.

What I am struggling with isn’t this will, it’s the realisation that the will isn’t going to be a magical redemption of my relationship with him. It’s making me look at the relationship with new eyes that aren’t still holding out for some dramatic act of love. That’s why I am hurting.

Completely! Few people have the ability to hurt us as much as our parents - every neglect feels like poisoned arrows - and the only way to deal with it is to give yourself the time and permission to feel those feelings and accept them / realise that our parents are often flawed people themselves.

BreathingDeep · 14/07/2025 18:43

OP, my goodness, how this resonates.

Let’s be honest, this man has had opportunity after opportunity to step up and be a good father. To show that he cares, that you and your siblings are his priority, and to do the right thing. Time after time, he has opted not to. Initially, if heartbroken at the end of his marriage, maybe he couldn’t, but later, he’s chosen not to, and while it’s devastating as his child, this is simply who he is and what he’s chosen.

I speak as a child of a father just like this. Mine left when I was a baby and while I always had monthly contact, he exempted himself from parenthood and has never once stepped up or stepped forward. He is now on wife number 4, having had several long-term, live-in partners also added into the mix over the years, and at every single turn, he has prioritised them and himself - I simply wasn’t a factor, just a distant relative he needed to send a birthday card to.

Honestly, I don’t think it really hit me how lacklustre his parenting or general interest in my life was until I had became a parent. Wife number 4 had a child, and he has stepped up and been a great stepfather to him and extended him the care and love I’d pined for, and slowly it became so painful I had to server ties after he paid for her son and his partner to attend their wedding overseas and we weren’t invited, even if we paid for ourselves. This was a whole other thread a couple of years ago on here!

Anyway, I plucked up the courage to tell him how I felt, and thought it might bridge the gap, somehow. It didn’t. He and his wife didn’t hold back from telling me how awful I was, and how I had unrealistic expectations and if anyone felt left out or uncared for, it was him. Painful to hear, but so far from the truth, and also showed me who he was, and I’ve been no contact since. I grieved for the dad that I wished I’d had, the dad that he could have been, and the grandad I wished he was for my children, and now I’ve moved on, and I feel tonnes lighter.

You can’t and won’t change him. He’s done what he believes is the right thing, and has no understanding how he could do more or different. What you want from him is unlikely to ever come, but if you want to feel heard, which meant a lot to me, then take the chance to say this to him. Tell him how hard you found your childhood, how hard you’ve found his distance, and also his closeness to his stepdaughter. How you wished it was different. What you need, I think, is to have the chance to be honest with him about how feel, and felt, and if he could open up about how he left you aged 8 and how he’s sorry, that’s worth far more than any inheritance.

For what it’s worth, I probably wouldn’t mention money - I made reference to money my dad had spent on his now stepson over the years when he’d done nothing for me growing up or later, and he and his wife then made everything about money - how obviously all I cared about was £ when I simply used that example as something that was measurable, and it could backfire on you too. Love and money are totally different things but when they cross over, it rarely ends well.

While I now have no relationship with my father, I don’t regret speaking up. If anything I’m proud of myself for sharing how I felt, for drawing a line and for stopping putting up with crumbs from his table.

Good luck and please know, you’re far from alone in this situation. Sending love and strength - these feelings can be huge and overwhelming.

Whosenameisthis · 14/07/2025 18:45

NoNameMum · 14/07/2025 17:54

No. It was back in the 90s and myself and my brother were only late teens. At the time we were thrilled with 3000. It was only later that I thought about it. I assume my grandparents redid their wills after my mum died.

Not sure if you want to drag it all up again but you should be able to find a copy of the will on the probate website. Costs a couple of quid to download.

bit shitty to cut one set of grandchildren off. Dh’s sibling tried similar, said there “was no money”, wouldn’t show us the will, and said dh would get nothing from his parents as they had no money/spent it all. Probate accounts showed otherwise. We went to court and got a share of the house as per the will.

Notonthestairs · 14/07/2025 18:50

Chewbecca · 14/07/2025 16:44

he’s chosen to do something which has highlighted to the Op how far she down his list of priorities
Eh? He has chosen to pass his half of the couple's wealth equally between his three DC and noone else? What on earth about that makes one of those DC low down in his priorities?

I read from the Op that 100% of the fathers will be divided - 50% to step child, the remaining 50% will be divided amongst his 3 previous children.
The wife will retain her assets and shares in joint assets.

Calliecarpa · 14/07/2025 18:50

Some of the posts in this thread are so unkind and unpleasant. I mean, telling the OP that at age eight (8) she 'chose to live' with her abusive mother, strongly implying that she's at fault for her dad's lack of interest in her and his maintaining a distance ever since, is off the freaking wall. WTAF.

And also, the dad is 'emotionally scarred for the rest of his life' because of his marriage to OP's mum? Are some posters claiming to know OP's dad personally? And now he's 'very happy with his new family'. Well, isn't that wonderful. I'm delighted for him. Never mind all the years he neglected OP and her siblings, eh? His own children, whom he abandoned with his abusive ex.

OP, I'm so sorry to read of your hurt, and I get it, having been in a not dissimilar situation myself. I hope you can put the nasty posts here out of your mind and focus on the supportive ones. Sadly, I don't see what the solution is except to try to accept it for what it is, because after all these years, it seems unlikely that your dad is going to change. I'm so sorry that it's like this for you, and hope you have (or will have) many other people and things in your life that bring you much happiness.

Calliopespa · 14/07/2025 18:52

Calliecarpa · 14/07/2025 18:50

Some of the posts in this thread are so unkind and unpleasant. I mean, telling the OP that at age eight (8) she 'chose to live' with her abusive mother, strongly implying that she's at fault for her dad's lack of interest in her and his maintaining a distance ever since, is off the freaking wall. WTAF.

And also, the dad is 'emotionally scarred for the rest of his life' because of his marriage to OP's mum? Are some posters claiming to know OP's dad personally? And now he's 'very happy with his new family'. Well, isn't that wonderful. I'm delighted for him. Never mind all the years he neglected OP and her siblings, eh? His own children, whom he abandoned with his abusive ex.

OP, I'm so sorry to read of your hurt, and I get it, having been in a not dissimilar situation myself. I hope you can put the nasty posts here out of your mind and focus on the supportive ones. Sadly, I don't see what the solution is except to try to accept it for what it is, because after all these years, it seems unlikely that your dad is going to change. I'm so sorry that it's like this for you, and hope you have (or will have) many other people and things in your life that bring you much happiness.

Agree.

MyFunSloth · 14/07/2025 19:01

I’m still here. So many thoughtful comments. Thank you.

My heart goes out to all the inner children wronged here. The unifying factor (that some people still refuse to understand) is that none of these stories are really about money, they are about neglect and being made to feel insignificant. That’s about more than a will, but it may be the will that is the most clear expression of that disregard.

@BreathingDeep your comment was particularly resonant because I am now mulling over whether to have the conversation. I don’t want to make it about money but I can’t “drop the rope” unless I have found some tiny degree of agency in this situation, to at least express how things have felt. Your comments are valued.

Sometimes I think about quietly disengaging and the sad thing is I wonder if he would even notice! His stepdaughter lives in Melbourne and returns to England about once every three years, so maybe she can step up into fully replacing me.

OP posts:
Whosenameisthis · 14/07/2025 19:02

Notonthestairs · 14/07/2025 18:50

I read from the Op that 100% of the fathers will be divided - 50% to step child, the remaining 50% will be divided amongst his 3 previous children.
The wife will retain her assets and shares in joint assets.

No, the will leaves the whole estate split 50
between him and his wife, then they each leave their half to their own kids.

o/p was expecting 25% of the whole estate.

I was expecting that he would choose with my step-mother to split the estate four ways which means my share would be 25% - not that much different from the 17% I may get in this plan.

o/p’s issue is not with the will, which is fair, but his treatment of them over his lifetime. I suspect though it’s driven home the years of hurt where she was not prioritised or treated the same as the stepchild.

the will, in itself though, is normal and a reasonable division.

nc43214321 · 14/07/2025 19:11

Similar thing happened to my mum, her dad had an affair and left her mum when she was 25, her Dad left everything to his new wife and family and is blood children got £10k.

Chewbecca · 14/07/2025 19:11

Notonthestairs · 14/07/2025 18:50

I read from the Op that 100% of the fathers will be divided - 50% to step child, the remaining 50% will be divided amongst his 3 previous children.
The wife will retain her assets and shares in joint assets.

No, The entire estate is being split 50/50 between OP's Dad and his DW, Dad's share of their estate is to be split between his 3 DC whilst SM's share of their estate is going to her DD.
It could be debated whether 50% of the estate should be considered SM's but on the whole after 30 years+ of marriage, most estates would be considered 50/50.
Personally I don't think expecting the SM to consider OP her heir is reasonable, OP has her own DM to inherit from too.

BreathingDeep · 14/07/2025 19:18

MyFunSloth · 14/07/2025 19:01

I’m still here. So many thoughtful comments. Thank you.

My heart goes out to all the inner children wronged here. The unifying factor (that some people still refuse to understand) is that none of these stories are really about money, they are about neglect and being made to feel insignificant. That’s about more than a will, but it may be the will that is the most clear expression of that disregard.

@BreathingDeep your comment was particularly resonant because I am now mulling over whether to have the conversation. I don’t want to make it about money but I can’t “drop the rope” unless I have found some tiny degree of agency in this situation, to at least express how things have felt. Your comments are valued.

Sometimes I think about quietly disengaging and the sad thing is I wonder if he would even notice! His stepdaughter lives in Melbourne and returns to England about once every three years, so maybe she can step up into fully replacing me.

OP, you’ve just summed up how I felt completely - I felt so passive and so helpless, and I needed to exercise some say in something that felt so huge to me. Our relationship, or lack of, had always been on his terms - he picked me up and dropped me (and later, my lovely kids) when something new and shiny came along and as I got older, carrying on the charade of happy families for a handful of weekends a year just became too difficult.

I recognised that I needed to address the things that hurt so I knew whatever happened, he’d been told and would know, but I also realise now that I did it in the hope that he would see things from my perspective and take some ownership and things could and would change. It didn’t, obviously, and that was painful, but I am proud of myself for standing up for myself, for telling him the hurt and sadness he’s caused over the years, rather than just letting things fade and fizzle out.

It does make me sad, but I don’t regret it. Life is happier without him in it and bizarrely, by taking the step of telling him how I felt, I like and value myself so much more.

Your description of how you feel is exactly how I felt, and I send you so much love. You sound awesome, and he doesn’t deserve you, but remember, this has never been about you and is everything about him.

NameChangedOfc · 14/07/2025 19:24

From your op: "I don’t know if I need to give my head a wobble and see this as merely behaviour that’s been consistent with his relationship with us his entire life".
I'm sorry, but this is it. You never had a Father, he never acted as one and he never will. I'm really sorry for the loss of your hope: it really is devastating when people keep showing you they don't love you (how you deserve, anyway). I hope you can make peace with it: it's sad, but also freeing. You can let go, now.

SpryCat · 14/07/2025 19:25

Your dad is very avoidant, once he left, he didn’t want to get involved with any problems with your mums’s MH, so he shut you all out. He has a superficial relationship with you all, he skims over life, only hearing the good bits, otherwise it makes him to uncomfortable.
He is as self absorbed as your mum was, when her MH was bad.
He is closer to your step sister because she is close to her mum, not because of any effort on his part.
Step mum will get 50% of assets which will be passed on to her daughter.