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Deprioritised in father's will in favour of step-family

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MyFunSloth · 13/07/2025 18:41

Pre-warning, this is a long read about family dynamics. It mentions step-parents and inheritance and I’m prepared to put my hard hat on regarding people cheekily expecting money from their parents, but please remember this is real people I am writing about.

My father had three children with my mum. I am the youngest and have an older brother and sister.

When I was 6 my mum had an affair and my parents’ marriage began to collapse into vicious rows in front of us. We grew up inside this unhappy atmosphere. Eventually when I was 8 (my older brother and sister 12 and 15), my dad moved out and they divorced.

He bought a flat in the same town and we saw him 2-3 times a month, never overnight. The rest of the time, we lived with my mother. After the divorce she became highly unstable - my dad had always been the “calm one” and without him around her fiery temper grew out of control.

As kids, we had the outward signs of being middle class (Sunday school at church, grammar school education, detached house), but behind the scenes my mum was physically violent to us and emotionally abusive, oscillating between periods of incredible love (holiday to Disneyland, elaborate birthday parties) and unhinged behaviour (irrational screaming, storming in and out of the house, hitting us).

The separation hit my father hard and he had a mini-breakdown. He was just about able to continue working. He owned his own business and was a higher earner although not “rich”.

As children, our relationship with our dad was friendly but distant. He would take us out for dinner and the cinema and occasionally on holiday. But there was a superficiality to things. He was reluctant to know too much about our home life. At times he felt like a kindly uncle rather than my dad and he stepped back to let her make all decisions about schooling, life admin, etc.

After a few years he met a woman ten years younger. It was a long time before he introduced us to her. She had a daughter from a previous marriage who was my age. Unlike the image of an evil stepmother, she was a nice woman. Straightforward and made an effort to be friendly. She had been a nurse and was a single parent, who had had a tough childhood. She hasn’t worked since being with my dad. As a kid, I sometimes felt jealous that my dad now had a new daughter the same age as me, who lived with him and benefited from his time and resources, but I just learned to deal with it.

My mum did not remarry and grew bitter about my dad moving on. His business flourished and he invested in several properties including a lavish holiday home in Spain.

Mum’s career developed so she enjoyed a comfortable life, but she struggled before eventually (20 years ago) meeting a kindly widower who brought a new sense of calm into her life. Since then her personality has improved a huge amount. She has apologised for the difficulties of our childhood and been eager to support her three kids with help for home deposits, despite her relatively unflashy lifestyle. She is now 80. Our relationship is not perfect, but for better and for worse she has made an effort. I’ve had therapy to understand why she is the way she is, and it’s helped me to lay the past to rest.

After several years my dad married his new partner, and they have now been together a total of thirty years - he is 80, she is 70. None of his children were invited to their wedding, although her daughter was. We were told afterwards, which was humiliating at the time.

Five years after they married, my dad’s new wife had a spectacular falling-out with my sister over a disagreement. She refuses to be in the same room as my sister and won’t facilitate contact. My dad won’t challenge this despite my sister begging to apologise. As a result, my dad sees his daughter and her children only once a year. My sister is devastated about this but has had to accept it.

More generally, our relationship with our dad has remained distant. Like many older parents, he is fond of telling us about what his neighbours are up to, or to talk about politics, but he shows very little deep interest in our lives, careers, families, etc. He gave all of his children financial support at university (monthly “pocket money” to see us through) but has provided zero financial support in the twenty-plus years since we graduated. (Many people would say this is quite appropriate given we are all grown-ups, and I don’t disagree).

Our relationship is still in the kindly uncle stage and he is very resistant to deepening it beyond being quite superficial. Birthday cards, Christmas cards, and a couple of dinners out per year where I hear the same old stories. I’ve tried to open up to him about the past but it’s clear the mental scars of the divorce remain for him and he is totally incapable of addressing the past, which I’ve had no choice other than to respect.

Both my parents are now old and have had health scares. My mum has prepared her will to leave the majority of her assets to her three kids.

I saw my dad for lunch last week and he raised the topic of his own will, without any prompting for me. He told me that he expects his wife to outlive him (not unreasonably given she’s ten years younger) and the plan is for half to go to her daughter (50%), and the other half to be split three ways between his kids (17%).

Here’s the AIBU. This conversation has hit me like a ton of bricks. I’ve been unable to sleep and felt upset ever since I found out.

This may sound weird, but it doesn’t feel it’s really about the money. (That old adage that when someone’s response to something seems irrational, it’s about something more than the thing it seems to be about).

I was expecting that he would choose with my step-mother to split the estate four ways, which means my share would be 25% - not that much different from the 17% I may get in this plan. Rationally, it’s not something to get worked up about especially as no-one knows what the future holds (bear in mind we are probably talking about assets of over £2m).

What has floored me is what this means emotionally to me. Not the money. I have always felt that my dad abandoned us when I was only 8. That he moved on with his life, even married someone with a daughter of the same age as me, and then just discharged a kind of genteel minimum in our relationship ever since. He left his children in the care of a woman who he knew was mentally unstable, who hit his children. Despite accruing significant wealth in the years since, he hasn’t made an effort to use it to bring us together, no big holidays for all his children and grandchildren. He’s enjoyed business class holidays while his elder daughter has scrimped and saved to provide for her kids. And all along, he’s just continued with an arms-length relationship with us.

On some level I always had an unspoken feeling that underneath it all, we still had a fundamental importance to him. In a crazy way I felt that although he let me down so many times through my life, his last act would be to see us right. This news makes it feel like that’s not the case.

I don’t know if I need to give my head a wobble and see this as merely behaviour that’s been consistent with his relationship with us his entire life.

I’m expecting people to say that this is just gold-digging or highly entitled. Maybe it is and I’m just shocked about having a slightly smaller inheritance. But it genuinely feels like it’s not about the money, it’s about what it says about how he has never prioritised me ever, how I will never really have been at the forefront of my dad’s mind. Even his own flesh and blood takes second rank here and I don’t know how to really process how that makes me feel.

I don’t know whether to tell my dad how this makes me feel, or whether to keep silent. Or whether to take this as the signal that our relationship will never really mean that much to him and that I need to finally emotionally disengage from him.

I don’t know what I’m asking for here. Please be kind.

OP posts:
ACatNamedRobin · 13/07/2025 23:57

On a separate point I'm not sure why the posters think that physically and emotionally abusing her children by the mother is more forgivable than the detachment of the (broken hearted) father?
Apart from the fact that the abuser was a woman and mother and therefore...what? it doesn't count??

Notrees · 14/07/2025 00:00

AnneLovesGilbert · 13/07/2025 23:18

How much money would compensate her for a crappy childhood?

The money isn't the point. It just made OP look at their relationship again and feel sad that she and her siblings weren't his priority. A light shone on a problem.

The realisation that the past is gone, that her father never did step up and will never step up (not that OP thinks money will solve anything, just that any comfort, love or help never came and never will), is a sad thing. The lonliness of absent parenting hits people at various stages in life and sometimes takes many instances to fully accept that the relationship is gone or never existed.

Notrees · 14/07/2025 00:04

ACatNamedRobin · 13/07/2025 23:57

On a separate point I'm not sure why the posters think that physically and emotionally abusing her children by the mother is more forgivable than the detachment of the (broken hearted) father?
Apart from the fact that the abuser was a woman and mother and therefore...what? it doesn't count??

I dont think people think it's worse, it's just an example of his lack of care that he knowingly walked away and left them in that situation. Not that either the mum or dad are better.

Notrees · 14/07/2025 00:09

MyFunSloth · 13/07/2025 23:37

The hard facts are that many would argue the monetary split is fair. Rationally I see this, I don’t need to be told “yabu” about this as I acknowledge that this is probably precedent and arguably merited. And in any case I don’t believe I can somehow argue them round, and I don’t intend to try to do so, partly because I think it probably would be unfair of me (as well as likely fruitless).

What I was struggling with in my original post is that whatever I feel about the money, what’s been stirred up is a chain of events that goes right back to my earliest memories and all through a very difficult childhood, and then an adulthood of general disengagement from someone whose love I desperately wanted.

The “reasonableness” of the wills is moot, what I wanted to explore here is how do I resolve the feelings that have been stirred up, which is a separate thing.

Whether or not this is a justified split, it feels like the latest in a long line of let-downs from my dad. He’s chosen to be at arm’s length throughout my life. It may be that this split is totally fair, but it’s opened my eyes to the fact that everything that has come before it has been half-arsed “parenting”.

What I am struggling with isn’t this will, it’s the realisation that the will isn’t going to be a magical redemption of my relationship with him. It’s making me look at the relationship with new eyes that aren’t still holding out for some dramatic act of love. That’s why I am hurting.

But I'm sorry to say OP that all you can do now is accept that this is how things are. No random act of love, no heroic acts will rectify your past. It's grief, I'm afraid, and you have to just work through it. But you also need to remember you aren't the one who's lacking.

Calliopespa · 14/07/2025 00:10

DeniseSecunda1 · 13/07/2025 22:56

Meh, I don’t agree with this “50% for her side and 50 for his side” thing. My dad, who has been with my stepmom longer than he was with my mom, is splitting their estate equally among me and my two siblings and my step mom’s two children. They’re choosing to do it this way so that everyone gets the same piece of the pie and NO ONE feels they are more important than anyone else. Why? Because they care about our emotions and don’t want anyone upset.

OP, your dad hasn’t considered your emotions, which is not a surprise since it sounds like he never has. I don’t think you’re money grabbing at all; it’s not about money. It’s about wanting your father to value you.

I agree. OP has made clear the SM hasn't brought a lot to the table financially. I think a per capita split is more than fair. On what basis should the SC get 50 percent of their step-parent's fortune? More fair would be for the new spouse to have a life interest in the home, maintenance provided for etc then it splits per capita. Stepchild is already getting more than they would have otherwise got - and the same as their ss. How can that be inequitable? The other approach lies at the heart of why step-parents can be seen as gold-diggers.

Pallisers · 14/07/2025 00:14

Op you feel abandoned because your father effectively did abandon you - in my world anyway where fathers are present, engaged, loving, concerned and involved in their children's lives - at any age. At the age of 8 your father morphed into an uncle-like figure.

The will - even if reasonable considering how long the second marriage was - brought up all these issues for you. Couple that with you not being invited to the wedding but your same-age step sister being invited etc. well of course you are seeing a hierarchy of love and feeling hurt by it.

Of the options you outlined above, I would chose a version of 2. Talking to your dad will lead no where. An 80 year old isn't suddenly going to say 'my god you ar eright, I was a bit of a shit dad wasn't I?" Rather than face how he behaved and how it made you feel he will deflect the blame onto you. It will be how you are so grasping etc. nothing about feeling let down by him all his life just your desire for his money.

Drop the rope a bit. Stop expecting anything much from him. He never did anything much so why would he now? Visit if it suits you. Stay in touch if it suits you. Lower your expectations and concentrate on the people in your life who do prioritise you.

And I agree completely with @Quitelikeit post.

76evie · 14/07/2025 00:18

MrsTerryPratchett · 13/07/2025 18:53

Is the idea that they have mirror wills and on both their deaths there is this split? Or on his death his estate is split like this?

Because the likelihood is that she can say what she likes now, but if she outlives him and his estate goes to her as his spouse, she can change her will to favour her DD even more.

I would prepare to get nothing. I’m so sorry because it does seem unfair, and hurtful. And those are two different things that get mushed together.

This! Prepare to get nothing. If he is planning on leaving it to his wife and her agreeing to split as you’ve said upon her death, then your sister at the very minimum will not get anything.

crumblingschools · 14/07/2025 00:19

How is his will worded? Is he giving his assets to the various adult DC and bypassing his wife, or is he saying if he dies first it all goes to the wife and then it will be split for you adult DC. Because the wife can decide however she wants to split her estate

Calliopespa · 14/07/2025 00:23

Pallisers · 14/07/2025 00:14

Op you feel abandoned because your father effectively did abandon you - in my world anyway where fathers are present, engaged, loving, concerned and involved in their children's lives - at any age. At the age of 8 your father morphed into an uncle-like figure.

The will - even if reasonable considering how long the second marriage was - brought up all these issues for you. Couple that with you not being invited to the wedding but your same-age step sister being invited etc. well of course you are seeing a hierarchy of love and feeling hurt by it.

Of the options you outlined above, I would chose a version of 2. Talking to your dad will lead no where. An 80 year old isn't suddenly going to say 'my god you ar eright, I was a bit of a shit dad wasn't I?" Rather than face how he behaved and how it made you feel he will deflect the blame onto you. It will be how you are so grasping etc. nothing about feeling let down by him all his life just your desire for his money.

Drop the rope a bit. Stop expecting anything much from him. He never did anything much so why would he now? Visit if it suits you. Stay in touch if it suits you. Lower your expectations and concentrate on the people in your life who do prioritise you.

And I agree completely with @Quitelikeit post.

I agree Op: he won't see the hurt he caused you as a child because the guilt of actually absorbing how that looked from your perspective will be too big for him to want to face.

His DW will be a voice in his ear and it won't be a voice saying you actually have a point. It will only backfire - and possibly result in you getting less/ alienation. And in any case, the money isn't really the point per se.

Just use it as an opportunity to confront the facts as a way to fully process the sense of abandonment you probably couldn't fully rationalise as a child - because you didn't have the context or perspective to do so at that age and also very likely because at that age it would have hurt too much. Sometimes in life we face things when we are ready. The fact you are doing so at this time is in itself a form of healing.

And have a big hug for your eight year old self from me - a random on the internet. Too many children are badly let down by selfish parents.

Calliopespa · 14/07/2025 00:28

ACatNamedRobin · 13/07/2025 23:57

On a separate point I'm not sure why the posters think that physically and emotionally abusing her children by the mother is more forgivable than the detachment of the (broken hearted) father?
Apart from the fact that the abuser was a woman and mother and therefore...what? it doesn't count??

Because she has, at least, tried to make amends and has seen the error of those times.

Dad is just waltzing on with no real relationship with his children and pursuing his own fancy with apparently no sense of remorse. The worse you see the mother's behaviour as, the worse the father was to just detach and leave his children to battle it alone.

HarkerandBarker · 14/07/2025 00:37

Your dad probably had to fight to even be able to leave anything to you and your siblings. I think you should give him the benefit of the doubt and just look forward to your share. It's not an insignificant amount of money. If he was such a terrible person then he could have left you and your siblings nothing.

caringcarer · 14/07/2025 00:47

MyFunSloth · 13/07/2025 19:47

My big sister works for a charity for the disabled. That's been her decision. I mention the disparity in their lives because there have been chances for my dad to lean into the lives of his kids and he's been very reluctant to do it. Instead he's told her about his most recent two-week cruise while she's been on the verge of using food banks.

OP if my Dad had been going on about his latest 2 weeks cruise and my sister had been so broke she was on the verge of using a food bank I'd tell him your sister is desperate and struggling to even provide food to eat. Let it soak in. See what he says. I'd probably tell him if he cared about his children he'd look more closely into their lives. But I have a big mouth.

WalkingaroundJardine · 14/07/2025 01:42

Calliopespa · 14/07/2025 00:28

Because she has, at least, tried to make amends and has seen the error of those times.

Dad is just waltzing on with no real relationship with his children and pursuing his own fancy with apparently no sense of remorse. The worse you see the mother's behaviour as, the worse the father was to just detach and leave his children to battle it alone.

I agree with this. I see the OP’s post as reflecting on that sense of emotional abandonment by her father and the proposed asset split was probably the trigger of her thoughts (although apparently uncommon for blended families).

@MyFunSloth maybe it was something that dads did back then after a divorce? It was only fairly recently that dad’s were encouraged to do 50:50 and unfortunately many still don’t and go off into their new lives. When my parents divorced in the early 1980s, I only saw my dad twice a year at one stage because he was so busy with his life, new relationship and it took his rellies overseas berating him to improve it. He and his second wife did leave most of their money to us in their wills and I am grateful for that. They died within a relatively short time of each other even though my stepmother was quite a bit younger than him.

My sibs always remained hurt and distant with him and my brother had a breakdown when he died. I had an OK relationship with him toward the end as I was more open to reconciliation but I still didn’t feel super close to him. So I get it.

99bottlesofkombucha · 14/07/2025 01:49

CharlotteStreetW1 · 13/07/2025 18:47

I can see where you're coming from but I don't think your dad has done anything wrong.

Edited

Apart from being a shit absent dad who basically abandoned HIS CHILDREN to an abusive mother?!
imagine what Mumsnet would say to a woman who posted she’d done that. That her ex hit her dc and she’d walked away and left them with him and she just wanted to see them once a year maybe, if they were still alive that is. The comments would all tear strips off her, they would say she deserved to rot in jail and she is everything that is wrong with the world and should never have had children. You on the other hand: oh he hasn’t done anything wrong. And if you just meant the will how bloody insensitive to ignore the rest. Being abandoned to an abusive parent is not a trivial side note.

99bottlesofkombucha · 14/07/2025 01:51

HarkerandBarker · 14/07/2025 00:37

Your dad probably had to fight to even be able to leave anything to you and your siblings. I think you should give him the benefit of the doubt and just look forward to your share. It's not an insignificant amount of money. If he was such a terrible person then he could have left you and your siblings nothing.

Doubtful. He wouldn’t have had to fight to… see them or give a shit or help them out to not be considering using food banks. All the evidence says this is not a man who has fought for his dc ever and he won’t have now.

Lilaclinacre · 14/07/2025 02:20

OP i get it, im the daughter of an emotionally detached and distant father, its hard. My advice is come to peace with who he is and also be kind to yourself. Its not because you're unloveable or did anything wrong, you were just unlucky to be born to a dysfunctional father who wasn't capable. Not your fault. Grieve and move on. I wish you well

Crinkleybottomburger · 14/07/2025 03:35

I completely understand OP. Your situation sounds similar to my own post divorce. My DF had an affair with his best friends wife. She was 10 years younger than my DM & had 4 kids. My DB (14) & I (9) weren’t invited or told he was married, saw him for 30 mins on a Friday, were never invited on holiday - not even a postcard or a stick of rock. I lived in London for many years, they would all regularly come to London for the weekend and never tell me. Once even staying at a hotel a 5 minute walk away. When he died my DB & I were in the funeral car with Step Mum & half sister (they had 1 child together), there was a ‘DAD’ wreath which was from Step Mum’s 4 children! Amazingly step sister blamed my DB & I for DF being miserable & never seeing his or DGC.

I heard a joke in my 20’s that I never really understood until DF died, “why do men have backbones? So their knuckles don’t drag on the ground”. Sadly my DF was a spineless man. I don’t over think the situation, I tell myself my DB and I were ‘70s divorce guinepigs; neither or us would or have treated our DC in this way. DSS now has 2 small children of her own, I hope she reflects on her DF & DM’s behaviour and sees their failings. Some times I think I’d love to tell her that her ‘DF’ took his brother’s girlfriend, his best friend’s wife and abandoned his children, but I won’t because I’m too kind and caring.

I don’t expect to get a penny when Step Mum dies.

BangersAndGnash · 14/07/2025 07:45

OP, I really feel for you, because this is about a lifetime of damage and schism, and not about the money, the will has just crystallised the way you Dad had never felt ‘yours’, and your feeling that that is mutual: you are not fully his, in his heart.

Who knows what he went through when your Mum had the affair and smashed up their marriage. He clearly didn’t have the emotional fluency and courage to stand by his children as it happened.

And he hasn’t had the ability to open up since.

I would not talk to him about the Will.

From his POV he is probably seeing himself as doing the decent thing by his wife of many years who has given him stability and not had an affair. So half and half.

You do not have any rights in this situation and trying to challenge the Will would be expensive madness.

If you want to talk to him about your emotional journey … you could try, but it seems like a dead end you have already bumped into. And any mention of the Will will invoke the wrath of his wife. ( yes, he will tell her)

Honestly I think you have done really well looking after yourself, seeking therapy, taking a broad objective perspective, and that this self care is what will serve you best.

When you engaged in therapy was it mostly about the relationship with your Mum? Or did you go into your Dad?

bigvig · 14/07/2025 08:24

Sorry OP. I understand your emotions. I'm also a step child and know the pain of always being second class. However this split is fair. She's his wife, she's entitled to half of everything. That said she'll probably end up with everything unless your Dad leaves his half of the house/assets to her in trust. Try to convince him to do this. If he won't that tells you all you need to know.

Lastknownaddress · 14/07/2025 08:24

@MyFunSloth my guess is most of the people who are judging you about the money haven't been in this situation.

Look after yourself. I have a similar back story, but my DF had the epiphany not M. I am finding the end of their lives as painful as them being together. It has surfaced a lot - much of it hidden and unspoken until I have had to do the life admin for both of them. The decisions they took, the behaviours that underpinned those decisions, the lies they both told. It is hugely difficult. I am so deeply impressed by your thoughtful posts.

Whatever course of action you take it has to be right for you. Not your parents. You owe it to yourself.

Hazey19 · 14/07/2025 08:32

something similar has happened to me (but without the substantial figures you describe!) in terms of the monetary split between me and my sibling and my step siblings. The reasoning being you will have/have had financial support from your mum and separately your dad. Your stepsister will I presume only inherit from your dad/step mum collectively and she lived with him? So although I can see where you are coming from i don’t think your dad has done anything wrong.

OVienna · 14/07/2025 08:38

CatherinedeBourgh · 13/07/2025 20:39

Would it help to see it as you are getting what you would if he divorced his wife and then quickly died?

Think about it. If he divorced, she would get half his money. Which is fair enough, after 30 years. She would then give it to her daughter, not her ex-stepchildren (which is again fair enough). Your father would divide his half between his three children.

In many places in the world, that is what happens if you die without a will, and you are only allowed to deviate from that to a small degree. When my father died (and he'd only been married two years) his wife got half his flat and the other half was divided between his 3 bio kids.

This is the key post and way to think this through @MyFunSloth. This is the financial reality.

OVienna · 14/07/2025 08:40

And i hope he puts the 50% to you and your siblings in trust

Mumlaplomb · 14/07/2025 08:45

I’m sure this has been said upthread and I’m sorry to repeat it if so, but please check if it is mirror wills, as your stepmum could change the will after your fathers death and leave all to your step sister, and this quite commonly happens.