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Affair partners, what do you class as a predator

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Clairebearstares · 13/07/2025 11:32

I’ve been seeing a lot recently the other woman in an affair often getting called a predator as in they have gone out of their way to snag a married man. Obviously the man has done the wrong thing to his partner regardless but I’m curious what traits do you see in a woman to class her as a predator. I never thought of the other woman as a predator but now that I’ve been seeing it pop up it really makes me wonder…..

pursued my husband, didn’t win at first but worked her way in over a couple of years by flattering him, waited on him, bagged out her husband to mine, tried to befriend me (had mutual friends) ect ect.

interested to hear others thoughts

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Clairebearstares · 13/07/2025 12:34

deepwatersolo · 13/07/2025 12:31

Just realizing she is married, too. In that case, the obvious choice would have been to tell her to stop and if she doesn’t to embarrass her in front of everyone including her husband.

I don‘t buy this ‚learned helplessness‘ of ‚oh, look wifey, what should I do‘ for even one second. More like a way to cover himself, while this ‚pursuit’ is going on.

Had he not been flattered but embarrassed by it, say, because he found her extremely unattractive, this would have ended in no time. I‘ve seen that often enough. Men can be VERY effective in scaring away interested women whose interest they feel threatens their image.

I did at the start. According to her husband that’s what made it worse. Should have shut my mouth and ceased any form of contact. Just meant I would lose my whole friend group which I did anyway in the end

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Clairebearstares · 13/07/2025 12:36

Zellycat · 13/07/2025 12:32

I have two predator friends from graduate school. (No longer in touch w either)

Friend 1: beautiful, so intelligent. Told me, while I had new baby that she was pursuing only men with a pregnant wife/new baby. She said … they are so neglected, and soooo appreciative and generous. Ick.

Friend 2: similar, actively sought out married men from work,

both thought were like Samantha from sex & the city. No idea what happened to 1, friend 2, no surprise had several long relationships with men in committed relationships & children. She’s not young anymore … so the men are older, she’s not interested. Single now for a few years.

No men were “off limits” for either.

Yes, there are predatory women.

some people are gross aren’t they

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dogcatkitten · 13/07/2025 12:37

Clairebearstares · 13/07/2025 11:38

He took full accountability for his actions but she did pursue him for 3 years before he was stupid enough to go there.

He told you that himself? After he took full responsibility? Or you deduced it from the way he hid every time she turned up and complained to you bitterly that he didn't know how long he could resist her advances and could you protect him from her.

MemorableTrenchcoat · 13/07/2025 12:37

Zellycat · 13/07/2025 12:32

I have two predator friends from graduate school. (No longer in touch w either)

Friend 1: beautiful, so intelligent. Told me, while I had new baby that she was pursuing only men with a pregnant wife/new baby. She said … they are so neglected, and soooo appreciative and generous. Ick.

Friend 2: similar, actively sought out married men from work,

both thought were like Samantha from sex & the city. No idea what happened to 1, friend 2, no surprise had several long relationships with men in committed relationships & children. She’s not young anymore … so the men are older, she’s not interested. Single now for a few years.

No men were “off limits” for either.

Yes, there are predatory women.

I’ve known at least one woman like this. For some reason, MN doesn’t accept they exist or absolves them of any blame.

Clairebearstares · 13/07/2025 12:38

Jinglejanglenamechanged25 · 13/07/2025 12:33

Did this affect happen in the 1950s? Bloody hell I would feel sorry for someone if they acted like that around me and tell them to get some dignity!

That made me laugh, thanks

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deepwatersolo · 13/07/2025 12:39

Well HE should have done it, as the target of her ambitions. Only he could have made it embarrassingly clear to her in front of everyone that she was nuts for going after him.

Clairebearstares · 13/07/2025 12:39

MemorableTrenchcoat · 13/07/2025 12:37

I’ve known at least one woman like this. For some reason, MN doesn’t accept they exist or absolves them of any blame.

I’m getting that vibe 😂😂

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Clairebearstares · 13/07/2025 12:40

deepwatersolo · 13/07/2025 12:39

Well HE should have done it, as the target of her ambitions. Only he could have made it embarrassingly clear to her in front of everyone that she was nuts for going after him.

agreed!!!

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Clairebearstares · 13/07/2025 12:41

dogcatkitten · 13/07/2025 12:37

He told you that himself? After he took full responsibility? Or you deduced it from the way he hid every time she turned up and complained to you bitterly that he didn't know how long he could resist her advances and could you protect him from her.

It’s not that black and white

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morbiditytrain · 13/07/2025 12:41

Clairebearstares · 13/07/2025 12:10

He did initially and I know this as she had messaged him trying to make me look bad and he asked for help 😂😂 She just didn’t let up.

Oh please OP!
He showed you the message as he was enjoying having two women ‘fighting’ over him.

He did not need your help over what to do. All he needed to do was firmly closely her down and block her. He didn’t because he loved the attention and he wanted to keep the potential of her open.

You have the narrative many ‘wives who stay’ have to create to be able to stay. The other woman was the sly, clever, cunning one, and your dear H was just a fool, dumb, made a mistake. This is timeless sexism.

Believe it if you have to. But you really aren’t going to convince anyone except other married women who are forced to believe the same to stay in their marriages.

TwistedWonder · 13/07/2025 12:42

MemorableTrenchcoat · 13/07/2025 12:37

I’ve known at least one woman like this. For some reason, MN doesn’t accept they exist or absolves them of any blame.

Oh they totally exist and anyone who deliberately targets attached people to pursue for sex as some sort of sick game is an absolute scumbag of the highest order.. That goes for men and women.

However the attached person has the ability to say no and mean no. They’re not innocent victims and blaming the OW completely for the DH cheating screams of misogyny- especially when we look at some of the sexist terms used.

Clairebearstares · 13/07/2025 12:44

morbiditytrain · 13/07/2025 12:41

Oh please OP!
He showed you the message as he was enjoying having two women ‘fighting’ over him.

He did not need your help over what to do. All he needed to do was firmly closely her down and block her. He didn’t because he loved the attention and he wanted to keep the potential of her open.

You have the narrative many ‘wives who stay’ have to create to be able to stay. The other woman was the sly, clever, cunning one, and your dear H was just a fool, dumb, made a mistake. This is timeless sexism.

Believe it if you have to. But you really aren’t going to convince anyone except other married women who are forced to believe the same to stay in their marriages.

It was not like that at all. If I was to write the whole story and fill all the gaps for everyone we would all be here for a very long time and all I really wanted to know was are some woman really that pathetic and the answer is yes, yes they are. Was my husbands actions also pathetic??? You betcha!!!

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dogcatkitten · 13/07/2025 12:44

MemorableTrenchcoat · 13/07/2025 12:37

I’ve known at least one woman like this. For some reason, MN doesn’t accept they exist or absolves them of any blame.

There are nasty men and women out there who would go after married men or women, it's up to the people they target to show some moral fibre and say no. I know they just can't resist these femme (or men) fatales, but why not? Don't they love and respect their wives or husbands? Most of the blame still lies with the partners not the interlopers.

morbiditytrain · 13/07/2025 12:45

MemorableTrenchcoat · 13/07/2025 12:37

I’ve known at least one woman like this. For some reason, MN doesn’t accept they exist or absolves them of any blame.

It’s not that we don’t think women like this exist.

It’s that we don’t think that men who are too stupid to be capable of resisting exist.

All married men can say No. Some do. The ones that say yes, very much freely chose to because they very much to.

MemorableTrenchcoat · 13/07/2025 12:45

TwistedWonder · 13/07/2025 12:42

Oh they totally exist and anyone who deliberately targets attached people to pursue for sex as some sort of sick game is an absolute scumbag of the highest order.. That goes for men and women.

However the attached person has the ability to say no and mean no. They’re not innocent victims and blaming the OW completely for the DH cheating screams of misogyny- especially when we look at some of the sexist terms used.

I don’t think anyone is blaming the OW completely, or would seek to. Rather, most posters seem to be saying the man is 100% at fault for succumbing to their advances, no matter how persistent.

Clairebearstares · 13/07/2025 12:45

TwistedWonder · 13/07/2025 12:42

Oh they totally exist and anyone who deliberately targets attached people to pursue for sex as some sort of sick game is an absolute scumbag of the highest order.. That goes for men and women.

However the attached person has the ability to say no and mean no. They’re not innocent victims and blaming the OW completely for the DH cheating screams of misogyny- especially when we look at some of the sexist terms used.

Sorry my verbal diarrhoea is bad, things just pop in my head and come out. I should work on that. I’m not sexist I only hate specific people some are mean some are woman

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deepwatersolo · 13/07/2025 12:46

Well, nobody denies that some crazy flirters exist, male and female, call them predators if you like. They are exceedingly common, in fact. However, safe for those who turn into outright stalkers or sexual abusers, they are very easy to shut down by their target if the target wants to.

TwistedWonder · 13/07/2025 12:47

MemorableTrenchcoat · 13/07/2025 12:45

I don’t think anyone is blaming the OW completely, or would seek to. Rather, most posters seem to be saying the man is 100% at fault for succumbing to their advances, no matter how persistent.

I don’t agree most are saying he’s 100% to blame. Most are responding to the OP’s attempts to paint him as some sort of unwilling victim of an evil woman when they’re both culpable

Clairebearstares · 13/07/2025 12:48

MemorableTrenchcoat · 13/07/2025 12:45

I don’t think anyone is blaming the OW completely, or would seek to. Rather, most posters seem to be saying the man is 100% at fault for succumbing to their advances, no matter how persistent.

I think they are both 100% at fault

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MemorableTrenchcoat · 13/07/2025 12:49

Clairebearstares · 13/07/2025 12:48

I think they are both 100% at fault

That’s not how percentages work!

Clairebearstares · 13/07/2025 12:50

TwistedWonder · 13/07/2025 12:47

I don’t agree most are saying he’s 100% to blame. Most are responding to the OP’s attempts to paint him as some sort of unwilling victim of an evil woman when they’re both culpable

I don’t know how many times I’ve said he’s 100% accountable for what he did. I never asked what anyone thought about that, I asked for views on the other woman, it stuns me how many people don’t place any blame on a woman deliberately setting out to destroy another woman, what happened to girl power and having each others backs?

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Clairebearstares · 13/07/2025 12:50

MemorableTrenchcoat · 13/07/2025 12:49

That’s not how percentages work!

There’s always one

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MemorableTrenchcoat · 13/07/2025 12:51

TwistedWonder · 13/07/2025 12:47

I don’t agree most are saying he’s 100% to blame. Most are responding to the OP’s attempts to paint him as some sort of unwilling victim of an evil woman when they’re both culpable

As I understand it OP is saying the OW had no business pursuing a married man in the first place, let alone over a number of years. This is not, I think, an unreasonable argument.

SharkBaitOooHaha · 13/07/2025 12:52

Clairebearstares · 13/07/2025 11:51

I 100% agree with you, I know he made a bad choice he knows it. The only thing I disagree with is I don’t believe he enjoyed the attention for all that time I think he was oblivious to start with and she slowly chipped away at him based on what I know but can’t be bothered writing a whole essay. I guess I’m more questioned what type of woman would actually pursue someone for that long and put so much effort in. You’d have to be some level of crazy

She wouldn’t have put that level of interest into your husband, I’d bet money your husband is lying.. Chipped away at indeed.
She spent three years flirting and showing interest in your husband because your husband egged her on, because he has a massive ego and little respect for you.
To answer your question, What sort of woman likes staring affairs/relationships with married men? I do know someone like this, she’s 46 and has never had a real relationship, all affairs. She comes across to me as someone who on the one hand is very judgmental towards other women… It’s not my fault that she’s (the wife) let herself go and her husband needs me to be happy. I feel like deep down she is extremely insecure and unhappy, she’s more a friend of a friend and I find her pathetic.

MemorableTrenchcoat · 13/07/2025 12:53

Clairebearstares · 13/07/2025 12:50

There’s always one

One what? I’m agreeing with you, but both parties can’t each shoulder all the blame.

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