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Affair partners, what do you class as a predator

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Clairebearstares · 13/07/2025 11:32

I’ve been seeing a lot recently the other woman in an affair often getting called a predator as in they have gone out of their way to snag a married man. Obviously the man has done the wrong thing to his partner regardless but I’m curious what traits do you see in a woman to class her as a predator. I never thought of the other woman as a predator but now that I’ve been seeing it pop up it really makes me wonder…..

pursued my husband, didn’t win at first but worked her way in over a couple of years by flattering him, waited on him, bagged out her husband to mine, tried to befriend me (had mutual friends) ect ect.

interested to hear others thoughts

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namechangeGOT · 13/07/2025 12:21

Clairebearstares · 13/07/2025 12:10

He did initially and I know this as she had messaged him trying to make me look bad and he asked for help 😂😂 She just didn’t let up.

Did he show you the messages she was sending and he was replying to right at the beginning? Did you know that she was trying to make a play for your husband the minute she sent that first message? Did he ignore ALL her messages right from the beginning?

Dozer · 13/07/2025 12:21

Never seen that term used on MN about OW/OM. It’s inappropriate for relationships between adults unless one adult is in a position of power over the other who is vulnerable (eg one is the other’s boss at work or their doctor or therapist).

It seems that labelling the OW could be one of the ways you cope with / excuse your H’s infidelity.

Clairebearstares · 13/07/2025 12:22

mindutopia · 13/07/2025 12:17

No one can be pursued for 3 years without actively choosing to be though. If some woman ‘actively pursued’ dh, he would, like me, be like bugger off you creepy weirdo, block the stalker lady, and if it got that far, report her for harassment. Poor innocent mens are just not out there bing pursued against their consent and defenceless to stop it. I wouldn’t tolerate that behaviour from some creepy man and men don’t need to either.

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I think when I say persued for 3 years is probably different to what people imagine. It was subtle stuff like if we were at bbq, fetching him a plate or a drink. You know the type agreeing and nodding with every thing they say, laughing even when there not funny ect not physically cracking on. Just slowly worked on winning him over, in hindsight I realise that behaviour was reserved only for him not all the men. He seen her as nice and so lovely as the act was getting played out. Also knew to wait till I was busy to do that so I wouldn’t notice so much. Just a sneaky cow and a dumb man 😂

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Summerhillsquare · 13/07/2025 12:22

I'm a feminist, I don't slag off other women.

Dozer · 13/07/2025 12:23

Her behaviour - bad as it was - wouldn’t have mattered if your H had behaved as a married man should.

Helpmeplease2025 · 13/07/2025 12:23

Clairebearstares · 13/07/2025 12:22

I think when I say persued for 3 years is probably different to what people imagine. It was subtle stuff like if we were at bbq, fetching him a plate or a drink. You know the type agreeing and nodding with every thing they say, laughing even when there not funny ect not physically cracking on. Just slowly worked on winning him over, in hindsight I realise that behaviour was reserved only for him not all the men. He seen her as nice and so lovely as the act was getting played out. Also knew to wait till I was busy to do that so I wouldn’t notice so much. Just a sneaky cow and a dumb man 😂

A man who was flattered by the attention, and could have stopped it if he’d wanted to, but didn’t want to.

Clairebearstares · 13/07/2025 12:24

namechangeGOT · 13/07/2025 12:21

Did he show you the messages she was sending and he was replying to right at the beginning? Did you know that she was trying to make a play for your husband the minute she sent that first message? Did he ignore ALL her messages right from the beginning?

Yes 100% and the messages did stop because he said in the message he was talking to me about what she had messaged. Obviously they started back up after the fling but not in between and was never secretive with phone in between. Strong and sensible at the start, weak and pathetic at the end

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MemorableTrenchcoat · 13/07/2025 12:25

Summerhillsquare · 13/07/2025 12:22

I'm a feminist, I don't slag off other women.

Even if they’ve done something wrong? What a blinkered attitude.

AgnesX · 13/07/2025 12:26

Clairebearstares · 13/07/2025 11:38

He took full accountability for his actions but she did pursue him for 3 years before he was stupid enough to go there.

So he didn't encourage her even one tiny bit??

TwistedWonder · 13/07/2025 12:26

Helpmeplease2025 · 13/07/2025 12:23

A man who was flattered by the attention, and could have stopped it if he’d wanted to, but didn’t want to.

100% - he could have killed this stone dead at any point but he chose to enjoy and be flattered by the attention

And let’s face it, he didn’t trip, fall and accidentally land in her vagina. He made a decision to shag her

I know it’s easier to deal with if you pretend he’s innocent and the poor victim of a predatory woman but deep down you know that’s far from the truth,

Clairebearstares · 13/07/2025 12:26

Dozer · 13/07/2025 12:21

Never seen that term used on MN about OW/OM. It’s inappropriate for relationships between adults unless one adult is in a position of power over the other who is vulnerable (eg one is the other’s boss at work or their doctor or therapist).

It seems that labelling the OW could be one of the ways you cope with / excuse your H’s infidelity.

I use better words than that 😂😂😂 actually we don’t talk about it anymore. Doesn’t mean I don’t think about it though.

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morbiditytrain · 13/07/2025 12:26

Alwayslurkingsometimesposting · 13/07/2025 11:36

Agree. It's two consenting adults. Women who call their husband's affair partner a predator are just trying to let their husband off the hook. It's a cope so they feel less awful about the whole thing

Absolutely this. Women from their teens are able to shut down men hitting on them, so the idea that a grown adult married man is ‘vulnerable’ to a female ‘predator’ is bollocks.

Women get raped and murdered by real predators. A man enjoying the attention and then shagging a woman who fancies him is not the victim of a ‘predator’.

Might make married women feel better to think their Nigel was a victim of a predator but it’s not true.

Clairebearstares · 13/07/2025 12:27

Summerhillsquare · 13/07/2025 12:22

I'm a feminist, I don't slag off other women.

Just men???

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MrsEverest · 13/07/2025 12:27

I’ve never heard anyone say that. I’d think them very foolish if I did.

The idea that men are either prey or some kind of prize (particularly given we’re discussing men who will risk their families for sex) is really sad. Anyone who thinks that way needs more a life.

Clairebearstares · 13/07/2025 12:27

Dozer · 13/07/2025 12:23

Her behaviour - bad as it was - wouldn’t have mattered if your H had behaved as a married man should.

100%, she would still be a slag for trying though

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Clairebearstares · 13/07/2025 12:29

At the end yes he did, in between no

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Dozer · 13/07/2025 12:29

No need for sexism, OP.

morbiditytrain · 13/07/2025 12:29

Clairebearstares · 13/07/2025 12:22

I think when I say persued for 3 years is probably different to what people imagine. It was subtle stuff like if we were at bbq, fetching him a plate or a drink. You know the type agreeing and nodding with every thing they say, laughing even when there not funny ect not physically cracking on. Just slowly worked on winning him over, in hindsight I realise that behaviour was reserved only for him not all the men. He seen her as nice and so lovely as the act was getting played out. Also knew to wait till I was busy to do that so I wouldn’t notice so much. Just a sneaky cow and a dumb man 😂

He wasn’t dumb. He knew exactly what was happening, was enjoying it and was going along with it. That’s why he found her lovely and praised her to you.

You are really naive.

Clairebearstares · 13/07/2025 12:31

TwistedWonder · 13/07/2025 12:26

100% - he could have killed this stone dead at any point but he chose to enjoy and be flattered by the attention

And let’s face it, he didn’t trip, fall and accidentally land in her vagina. He made a decision to shag her

I know it’s easier to deal with if you pretend he’s innocent and the poor victim of a predatory woman but deep down you know that’s far from the truth,

Absolutely blame is on him, he has been honest in every way and accepted accountability, he never blamed her he took on all the blame himself. guess I’m more still wrapping my head around her mentality, which I’ll never understand because I’m not like her in anyway

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deepwatersolo · 13/07/2025 12:31

Just realizing she is married, too. In that case, the obvious choice would have been to tell her to stop and if she doesn’t to embarrass her in front of everyone including her husband.

I don‘t buy this ‚learned helplessness‘ of ‚oh, look wifey, what should I do‘ for even one second. More like a way to cover himself, while this ‚pursuit’ is going on.

Had he not been flattered but embarrassed by it, say, because he found her extremely unattractive, this would have ended in no time. I‘ve seen that often enough. Men can be VERY effective in scaring away interested women whose interest they feel threatens their image.

Zellycat · 13/07/2025 12:32

I have two predator friends from graduate school. (No longer in touch w either)

Friend 1: beautiful, so intelligent. Told me, while I had new baby that she was pursuing only men with a pregnant wife/new baby. She said … they are so neglected, and soooo appreciative and generous. Ick.

Friend 2: similar, actively sought out married men from work,

both thought were like Samantha from sex & the city. No idea what happened to 1, friend 2, no surprise had several long relationships with men in committed relationships & children. She’s not young anymore … so the men are older, she’s not interested. Single now for a few years.

No men were “off limits” for either.

Yes, there are predatory women.

Clairebearstares · 13/07/2025 12:32

morbiditytrain · 13/07/2025 12:29

He wasn’t dumb. He knew exactly what was happening, was enjoying it and was going along with it. That’s why he found her lovely and praised her to you.

You are really naive.

He did not praise her to me, this is information I know after the fact

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TwistedWonder · 13/07/2025 12:33

Clairebearstares · 13/07/2025 12:31

Absolutely blame is on him, he has been honest in every way and accepted accountability, he never blamed her he took on all the blame himself. guess I’m more still wrapping my head around her mentality, which I’ll never understand because I’m not like her in anyway

He’s your problem to get your head around. You’re focusing on her but she’s a nobody, she’s nothing to you.

You need to focus on why your husband chose to stick his dick in another woman - regardless of his words when he got caught.

Jinglejanglenamechanged25 · 13/07/2025 12:33

Clairebearstares · 13/07/2025 12:22

I think when I say persued for 3 years is probably different to what people imagine. It was subtle stuff like if we were at bbq, fetching him a plate or a drink. You know the type agreeing and nodding with every thing they say, laughing even when there not funny ect not physically cracking on. Just slowly worked on winning him over, in hindsight I realise that behaviour was reserved only for him not all the men. He seen her as nice and so lovely as the act was getting played out. Also knew to wait till I was busy to do that so I wouldn’t notice so much. Just a sneaky cow and a dumb man 😂

Did this affect happen in the 1950s? Bloody hell I would feel sorry for someone if they acted like that around me and tell them to get some dignity!

Isitsixoclockalready · 13/07/2025 12:34

If someone is making a habit of pursuing people who are in existing relationships then it may well indicate an underlying personality issue that they have and it's not exactly a nice trait but the person who is already in a relationship has to take the ultimate responsibility as they could have said no.

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