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I don't know how much longer I can parent my young adult DD

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intheshallow · 21/06/2025 13:58

My DD is 18. I want to preface my post by saying that I love her. I want the best for her. She's talented and smart and funny. She's aspirational and interested in the world.

Life with my DD is unbearable most days. She's always been somewhat tricky , has control issues I would say, doesn't always connect well with other young people but does have a few close friends. She is a glass half empty sort of kid and while It's been hard at times , we stayed close and muddled through.

Fast forward to now and she's been studying hard A levels for the last two years. She has crashed and burned so badly that I do not recognise her.
She cannot tolerate even the smallest of requests from me , and I mean tiny ones like 'pick up your cup off the floor'. She is verbally abusive, says dreadful things about the kind of parent I am, and quotes long diatribes about being a toxic parent / she's going to go no contact when she's financially independent/hopes I rot in loneliness when I'm older.

It's just the two of us. Has been for a long time. She does see her Dad occasionally but he's a let-down on all fronts. She runs when he calls though, and I know that deep down so many of her issues are connected to him. Some days my life feels unbearable because for the last 2 years, I can't recall a single act of kindness that she has extended to me. She snarls when I speak, has taken to physically pushing me out of her way if I try to insist on a conversation, tells me to piss off/get out/ etc. my DD lives in squalor in her bedroom, I'm ashamed to say that it's so bad that it smells the entire upstairs. I tell her not to eat up there but she pushes past me and puts her headphones on to block me out. She is clean in herself but sometimes wears dirty clothes because she won't put them in the laundry basket but also won't let me in her room to take them out. She hardly leaves the house so entering her room anyway is not as easy as you'd think. She will physically push me out if I enter. Many, many times I've resorted to telling her that I cannot have her live here and act like this and she just snarls and says she won't be going anywhere.

My DD only interacts me to ask for lifts money or something else. She is escalating every week. There isn't a shred of her former kind self I can connect with , no matter how hard I try. I dream of selling my house and moving to a one bed flat that she can't come to. Believe me when I say that I feel like the mother she says I am, when I think this way.

I've tried to get her counselling. She won't go. She isn't going to university either. She does say she will get a job soon so that's something. I feel desperate most days

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Hotttttttto · 21/06/2025 17:35

If it were an 18 year old male the answers would be different.

Isthisit22 · 21/06/2025 17:35

intheshallow · 21/06/2025 17:16

She wouldn't live with her dad because deep down she knows he hasn't wanted to parent her. We've been split for years. Honestly , threatening to send her there to live with him has been a mistake because I've never followed through. That's a theme in my parenting....not meaning what I say. Speaking in the heat of the moment . Empty threats. Issuing absolutes I know I can't follow through. She has come to know this and doesn't respect or like me for that. I can't say I blame her on that front.

What I have been though, is her constant , when he wasn't. I have never left her side. However I cannot ask DD to be grateful for this because why should she? It's the bare minimum of parenting. The trouble is though, while she's entitled to 100% from both parents, I've had to provide 200% to make up for his. But then felt I've had to provide a further 100% on top of that again because she is so hurt by his absence and to put it frankly, he has worked against me her entire childhood. And I mean really worked against me.
My DD expects SO much from me. She believes truly in her heart that I have and continue to fall very short of what a mother is.

Seriously, send her to her dad’s. It doesn’t have to be permanent but things need to change.
You have a million excuses but this is no way to live. You both need some space from each other.
yes her dad doesn’t want to parent her but he’s going to have to for a while

MyHouseInThePrairie · 21/06/2025 17:38

Also if you go down the route of a diagnosis, have a look at Right to Choose. This allows you chose your provider, including from some private providers working for the NHS, all under the NHS (so no cost!)

Right to Choose

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Your choices in the NHS

Find out about your right to choose where you have your NHS treatment.

https://www.nhs.uk/using-the-nhs/about-the-nhs/your-choices-in-the-nhs

Rainbows41 · 21/06/2025 17:38

What happened between her and her father?
How old was she when this started?
What was she like before it started?

mathanxiety · 21/06/2025 17:39

Stop giving her lifts and money.

Call the police when she pushes you. That is assault.

Do not accept being forbidden access to her room. It's your house and you pay the bills and keep that roof over her head. Push on in and clean.

Autistic or not, she needs to learn how to treat other people.

leftorrightnow · 21/06/2025 17:41

Sounds like she’s in pain and also need clear boundaries.

recommend Attachment Nerd, have a look, lots of good advice for issues with kids of all ages.
Be loving but clear about your boundaries and her need to take responsibility for herself.

MyHouseInThePrairie · 21/06/2025 17:41

Hotttttttto · 21/06/2025 17:35

If it were an 18 year old male the answers would be different.

Having a dh and a young adult ds, both on the spectrum, and having seen what it can mean when they’re overwhelmed, I can assure you that my answer would be the same.

The dd needs support first and foremost. All wo excusing her behaviour and still holding her accountable for undesirable behaviours.
But just like Theres no point shouting at a toddler when they’re in the middle of a tantrum because they won’t learn anything, punishing an autistic teen in autistic burntout won’t help them behave.

zagazig · 21/06/2025 17:41

intheshallow · 21/06/2025 17:25

I'm not going to respond to messages that are nasty about my DD or call her names.

I have reported them @intheshallow

CocoKenny · 21/06/2025 17:42

You’re not a weak mum. You’re trying to cope while being the victim of domestic abuse.
I went through this exact thing with my son. His siblings moved out and it was just him and me. It was the worst period of my life and it’s 15 years ago now. I asked for support from his dad/ family/ GP… no one helped.
it escalated to him smashing my house up and the police escorting him out.
i never allowed him back and moved shortly after.
it took 4 years to mend our relationship and I’m not sure it will ever fully recover.
I know you feel alone and trapped. Please make a strong statement and say you’re moving to a place of your own and she needs to plan accordingly. Stick firmly to this. Keep your boundary.
She’ll try and push but you are allowed to be happy and treated with respect. She can make her own choices.
good luck xx

RosemaryRusset · 21/06/2025 17:44

Noshadelamp · 21/06/2025 15:28

Your DD is similar to my DD who was diagnosed with autism as a young teen then the stress of A levels caused a complete breakdown and burnout.

Her nervous system is shot and she needs time to reset. She's in flight or flight mode most of the time.

I promise you it gets better but you have to be prepared to parent differently and look after your own emotional regulation.

Have you read about PDA or demand avoidance autism?

Pp will say she's a nasty bully etc and "your house your rules" but that attitude will only make things worse with someone struggling with burnout and PDA.

You need to go on a communication detox, write notes if it's important eg "I'll be back at 10pm"
Stop trying to have conversations with her when she doesn't want to talk.

At the same time you need to establish a few boundaries in a firm loving way.

Pick your top three until they are established and working eg no physically pushing, allow me more time to recover if we've rowed, bring cups and plates down 3 times a week

Quoting this post for emphasis because it's so true.
Do read up on PDA and how demands just intensify the fight or flight behaviour that's so difficult to deal with.
Texting can be a really good way to defuse and repair after rows, even within the same house. If you type something kind or affectionate no one can see you gritting your teeth, and it's easier to rebuild without lashing out.

Toooldtocare25 · 21/06/2025 17:44

Autistic or not all children need boundaries and consequences
This is the one job of a parent no one else.
By not doing this you are reinforcing to her that her behaviour is ok. Like violent relationships the person will keep pushing to see what they can get you to accept.
You need some help yourself regardless. Look at building better relationships courses or counselling but ultimately you have to get these in place for your own sake

novanoir · 21/06/2025 17:45

She sounds like she needs a good fucking straightener. Give her what for, you’re her parent. Have you disciplined these behaviours in any way, shape or form?

OldEnoughToFancyBobGeldof · 21/06/2025 17:46

Girliefriendlikespuppies · 21/06/2025 14:02

She sounds autistic?

So what if she is, it doesn’t give you a free pass to treat people like shit.

Barbie222 · 21/06/2025 17:46

Your OP says you don’t know how much longer you can parent her. I don’t know if it is the best thing to do for you to parent her any more, thinking about this further. You would almost be better off doing the opposite - finding a way to disconnect from the everyday contact and keeping the interactions with her to a minimum. Then they might be more positive and the relationship could build up to a level of contact where you’re both happy. Separate housing would definitely be key to this - can you plan to downsize?

ilovesushi · 21/06/2025 17:46

It sounds so difficult and so heartbreaking. Can you speak to her college and explain that you are really concerned about her, your relationship has broken down, and you suspect ASD and don't know what to do? They must have provision for SEN, and mental health support. If she completely intolerant with you in person, can you write her a short note? I love you, but I'm finding it so hard to speak to you. Something like that. She might mistakenly think you hate her if most of your interactions have become stressed. I wish you well with it! Don't give up. x

Cadenza12 · 21/06/2025 17:47

I can tell you exactly how many times a child of mine would shove me. That would be once. You also say you give her lifts and money, so you do have some currency. Personally I'd send her to her dads, what she wants doesn't really come into the situation. You need to stand up to her.

zagazig · 21/06/2025 17:50

novanoir · 21/06/2025 17:45

She sounds like she needs a good fucking straightener. Give her what for, you’re her parent. Have you disciplined these behaviours in any way, shape or form?

It sounds like that is what you need with the ignorance you are displaying.

ThatsNotMyTeen · 21/06/2025 17:51

If this was a son the responses would on the whole be very different. But because it’s a girl people are falling over themselves to come up with excuses for her.

Maybe she does have ASD but at 18 she needs to address this for herself. And it’s not an excuse for being a total arsehole.

Presumably you say to her OP how dare she speak to you like that and treat your home like a pigsty? How does she react?

Sceptic1234 · 21/06/2025 17:51

Foreverm0re · 21/06/2025 14:23

Why do people instantly jump to autism with everything? Some people are just tossers.

That comment made me wonder if you might be autistic??

OldEnoughToFancyBobGeldof · 21/06/2025 17:55

Cadenza12 · 21/06/2025 17:47

I can tell you exactly how many times a child of mine would shove me. That would be once. You also say you give her lifts and money, so you do have some currency. Personally I'd send her to her dads, what she wants doesn't really come into the situation. You need to stand up to her.

Yeah I’d drop her at her dads to.. She’s got far too much control over you, all of this “I’m not going anywhere” Erm I think you’ll find that you are an adult and if you’re going to be a nasty little bully then nobody is going to want to live with you!!
If her dad won’t take her then drop her down the local council office, I should imagine she’ll be back grovelling pretty sharpish and she’d get one more chance if I were you.

intheshallow · 21/06/2025 17:57

She wasn't demand avoidant as a young child really no. I don't think so. Rigid in her thinking I think

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ThatsNotMyTeen · 21/06/2025 17:59

Also who’s going to give someone like that a job?!

idonotwantthat · 21/06/2025 18:01

I should imagine she’ll be back grovelling pretty sharpish and she’d get one more chance if I were you

This is the generally held view isn’t it, that the child will return contrite and prodigal daughter like … it’s unlikely. What it will do is force the DD into a life that to be honest is difficult to say the least and probably cause a rift that’s not going to be healed.

novanoir · 21/06/2025 18:01

zagazig · 21/06/2025 17:50

It sounds like that is what you need with the ignorance you are displaying.

Oh leave off. Look at the way she is treating her mother it’s disgusting. Stop enabling shit behaviour.

lemonraspberry · 21/06/2025 18:05

austic is no excuse for vile, rude behaviour. She does it because she knows you will take it. Next time she wants a lift take her to her dad's and leave her there. Clear her room out, just give her the bare essentials. Don't reason with her, don't even explain.

She only speaks in a civil manner to you when she wants something so yes, you have plenty of things you can remove from her.

She may get a job but I really doubt she will be able to hold one down.