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Husband’s new job & emotional affair

127 replies

rosamundos · 10/06/2025 03:22

Hi bit lost as to what to do next. We recently moved back to the U.K. as we were working abroad (where we had our 3 young children) for several years. Move instigated by DH’s ‘big’ new job, suddenly he became the earner & I ‘stalled’ my career to settle kids into school / move countries etc.

His behaviour the past month has been awful, and I felt in my gut something was up. He denied and denied. Tonight he was out and I checked his laptop - basically revealing (what he claims is) an emotion affair. He was googling divorce, how to handle the fallout of an affair etc.

The affair is with a woman at the new ‘big’ job who he works with on a daily basis. She’s also married with kids. He claims they had a discussion last week, after getting back from a 3 day long company ‘off site’, where they agreed nothing could happen as they didn’t want to risk families. I said I can’t be with him if he continues to work with her. But he says he can’t leave, it’s his dream job, he earns double his previous salary etc. He’s right in that he wouldn’t land anything like this again.

I don’t know what to do. I’ve told him he needs to tell her I know all about it. I will go to her husband if it continues. But he will still see her daily etc. I feel so sad and humiliated and like he’s leading a double life. No idea if it went beyond ‘emotional’, he claims not but I’d say that too (which I said to him). I don’t trust anything he says. I can see myself in a never ending paranoia where I sneak checks at his phone and question everything. If he doesn’t leave the company, what rules does he have to follow to make this even slightly viable?

Sorry. Feeling so confused and sad for my kids. Would appreciate opinions or experience.

OP posts:
OrangeCrushes · 10/06/2025 13:12

IsadoraQuagmire · 10/06/2025 12:36

Well they actually do sometimes, as I've had TWO married men with children (2 or 3 each I think) leave their wives "for" me. I wasn't in a relationship with either, just friends. Both had told me they were in love with me (I was surprised both times)
Both rang me to announce they'd left their wives, I was astonished!😄
(Didn't go out with either!)

Um, what?

Daisydiary · 10/06/2025 13:13

What would you tell your grown up daughter to do, OP?

Pbjsand · 10/06/2025 13:38

Tell the OW’s husband. If that doesn’t end the affair, then tell him the choices are he leaves his job or you leave the marriage. See what he chooses.

NeedyQuoter · 10/06/2025 13:42

He can work elsewhere and still be having affairs, cheating is about who the person fundamentally is not who he met or was married to. You can take the man out of the job but you can't take the cheat out of the man. They will just be poorer, the trust is already gone.

SandyY2K · 10/06/2025 13:48

rosamundos · 10/06/2025 03:22

Hi bit lost as to what to do next. We recently moved back to the U.K. as we were working abroad (where we had our 3 young children) for several years. Move instigated by DH’s ‘big’ new job, suddenly he became the earner & I ‘stalled’ my career to settle kids into school / move countries etc.

His behaviour the past month has been awful, and I felt in my gut something was up. He denied and denied. Tonight he was out and I checked his laptop - basically revealing (what he claims is) an emotion affair. He was googling divorce, how to handle the fallout of an affair etc.

The affair is with a woman at the new ‘big’ job who he works with on a daily basis. She’s also married with kids. He claims they had a discussion last week, after getting back from a 3 day long company ‘off site’, where they agreed nothing could happen as they didn’t want to risk families. I said I can’t be with him if he continues to work with her. But he says he can’t leave, it’s his dream job, he earns double his previous salary etc. He’s right in that he wouldn’t land anything like this again.

I don’t know what to do. I’ve told him he needs to tell her I know all about it. I will go to her husband if it continues. But he will still see her daily etc. I feel so sad and humiliated and like he’s leading a double life. No idea if it went beyond ‘emotional’, he claims not but I’d say that too (which I said to him). I don’t trust anything he says. I can see myself in a never ending paranoia where I sneak checks at his phone and question everything. If he doesn’t leave the company, what rules does he have to follow to make this even slightly viable?

Sorry. Feeling so confused and sad for my kids. Would appreciate opinions or experience.

If he was looking at divorce, or sounds serious work her.

Like they're in love.

Even if he got another job, the betrayal has happened and he's only staying because of the upheaval.

He's messed up...would you consider couple's counselling?

Iamfree · 10/06/2025 13:51

If he leaves his job and doesn’t find something at a similar level he will blame you and grow resentful. I personally think it’s over between you two sorry

Fargo79 · 10/06/2025 13:51

You will be a wreck if he stays in this job. You won't have a moment's peace and will be constantly (and probably correctly) assuming the worst every day, waiting for a bomb to drop on your life at any second.

To be honest, you finding out and confronting him should really have shocked him back to reality and he should be filled with remorse and be leaving his job without being asked. The fact he's not doesn't bode well.

Sedgwick · 10/06/2025 13:54

Gosh @IsadoraQuagmire you must be a very beautiful and mesmerising woman to have two friends leave their wives and children for you and you had no idea they were in love with you. What a giggle!

@rosamundos The fact he was googling divorce etc is a very bad sign. I think you should let the other woman’s husband know and see a solicitor. I don’t think you can ever trust him again, it’s over. I am so sorry. He broke his vows, hold your head up high and don’t lower your standards.

AlertCat · 10/06/2025 13:59

I’d say he needs to move out asap. Draw your boundary, kick him out, and see a solicitor. Get copies of all the financial information (savings, incomes, pensions etc) and your important documents like passports, birth and marriage certificates.

Then, if he suddenly regrets his behaviour when he sees that you’re serious, he can arrange relationship counselling and show you that you and your family are the priority.

Bloodorangey · 10/06/2025 13:59

I’m so sorry this has happened. They always tell you the bare minimum (eg emotional
affair)

I would divorce and claim from his salary, make him take kids 50/50 (he won’t,) and get a “big” job in the Uk for yourself.

give up your ideal of romantic love. He does not share it.

diamonds are a girl’s best friend

IsadoraQuagmire · 10/06/2025 14:00

Sedgwick · 10/06/2025 13:54

Gosh @IsadoraQuagmire you must be a very beautiful and mesmerising woman to have two friends leave their wives and children for you and you had no idea they were in love with you. What a giggle!

@rosamundos The fact he was googling divorce etc is a very bad sign. I think you should let the other woman’s husband know and see a solicitor. I don’t think you can ever trust him again, it’s over. I am so sorry. He broke his vows, hold your head up high and don’t lower your standards.

I am very good looking, no point in false modesty. But also quite unobservant apparently, as I hadn't noticed them being any more friendly than usual before they each told me they were obsessed with me. And why wouldn't I find it amusing, it's not like I was flirting with either of them!

NeedyQuoter · 10/06/2025 14:04

IsadoraQuagmire · 10/06/2025 14:00

I am very good looking, no point in false modesty. But also quite unobservant apparently, as I hadn't noticed them being any more friendly than usual before they each told me they were obsessed with me. And why wouldn't I find it amusing, it's not like I was flirting with either of them!

Im not surprised, i immediately knew you must be very attractive and magnetic. Do you find that you're unobservant and freely yourself when you don't fancy the guy but when you like him you act differently? I haven't had men leave their life for me but I had surprise love declarations from men i naively thought we were just friends.. and i was able to be my 'real' self because i didn't fancy them..

Do you mind saying how things went down after you turned them down?

FictionalCharacter · 10/06/2025 14:09

The consequences for him of his behaviour are not your problem. It's up to him whether he throws away his marriage or his "dream job" for an affair. Just do what's best for you, and let him take care of himself.

JustAnInchident · 10/06/2025 14:16

Men do sometimes seriously contemplate leaving their wives, or even actually do it, without sex being involved. Perhaps rather more rare, but it happens.
Honestly op, I couldn’t work past this. If he was truly sorry and truly wanted your marriage to work, it wouldn’t be you having to come up with ways to fix this. His job is more important to him than his marriage to you, that’s not a place I’d be happy with in life personally. He chose to do this, he chose to break your family up, because he was a weak, pathetic man led by his dick (even if he’s telling the truth and they’ve not actually had sex… yet)

TheHappyBug · 10/06/2025 14:21

I wouldn’t believe for a second they haven’t had sex. It sounds rather more like he was ready to leave you but she only sees him as a bit on the side.

I would apply for divorce, you have to have a six months thinking period these days I think so at least he will see you are serious. If he somehow manages to convince you he is sorry and truly wants to keep your marriage going then you don’t have to see it through but he wouldn’t be getting away consequence free.

IsadoraQuagmire · 10/06/2025 14:22

NeedyQuoter · 10/06/2025 14:04

Im not surprised, i immediately knew you must be very attractive and magnetic. Do you find that you're unobservant and freely yourself when you don't fancy the guy but when you like him you act differently? I haven't had men leave their life for me but I had surprise love declarations from men i naively thought we were just friends.. and i was able to be my 'real' self because i didn't fancy them..

Do you mind saying how things went down after you turned them down?

I don't know if I'd act differently, I never like anyone that much!
I don't know what happened to one of those guys, it was someone I didn't have to have contact with again. The other is still single (he's absolutely gorgeous looking though, so maybe not for long) I didn't keep in touch with him either.
And I didn't "turn them down" as such either. I just said "oh really?" or something. I didn't quite know WHAT to say. Both times they told me over the phone.
I just posted about it to refute the other poster's comment that a man wouldn't leave his wife for someone he wasn't having sex with!

NeedyQuoter · 10/06/2025 14:36

@IsadoraQuagmire yeah i can imagine the shock. What a thing to spring out on someone! The delusions must be more powerful when there wasn't even a mutual confirmation of feelings.. I guess the men might have been limerent with you.

Sometimeinadifferentworld · 10/06/2025 14:51

Perhaps @NeedyQuoter
and IsadoraQuagmire
should start their own thread instead of derailing OP's .

rosamundos · 10/06/2025 14:56

Thank you so much everyone for your comments. I really appreciate it. And for the recommendation to read 'surviving infidelity'. I will buy it.

He's told me this is a 'huge wake up call' and he is desperate for our family to not fall apart. He wants to go to couples therapy. His mother has late stage cancer and I am very aware that these things are more likely to happen alongside traumatic life events. But we will have more of these in the future - if the answer is he'll just run off with someone else I don't think we can be together.

He said he told the OW this morning (at work....) I had found out, but I've done a lot of snooping on his icloud via his iPad and I think he had / has a hidden whats app chat with her on his phone. He'd screengrabbed my what's app message finding out last night and I think he sent it to her. He showed me his phone last night and I went through it, but I found it super weird he didn't even have her number on there (he claims it's because they see each other in person - cannot believe this is remotely true). He denies he's still lying and that he's told me everything. I don't see how anyone jumps from being flirty at work to googling divorce & having a serious discussion with the OW about 'not' having an affair without more behind it.

I've told him I will tell the OW's husband if I find any more lies. He's said she's aware of this. I may tell him anyway, I need to sit on that one and work out what's best.

Fortunately, I control all the money and bank accounts because he's rubbish with admin. I don't have a job currently, and the idea of finding one when my and my children's lives are falling apart is horrifying, but I have enough money to be OK till end of the year. I am also old friends with a very experienced London divorce lawyer. We are talking this week.

He's cancelled going to a 3 day work conference abroad this week (she wasn't going) so we can work out how to save our relationship.

Thank you again to everyone who has commented.

OP posts:
NeedyQuoter · 10/06/2025 15:01

I wish you all the best 💕

orangedream · 10/06/2025 15:12

I think you're in shock and trying to cling to the idea that your reality hasn't changed. Your husband had an affair and was thinking about divorce. I wouldn't be making excuses for him like his mother is ill.

But it can take time to process these things and realise where you are now.

Starlight1984 · 10/06/2025 15:17

He wants to go to couples therapy.

Of course he does 🙄Standard line which is always rolled out as soon as someone is caught cheating.

Sedgwick · 10/06/2025 15:18

You sound lovely op. Please don’t forget he googled how to divorce. I don’t believe a word he says. All the best.

Starlight1984 · 10/06/2025 15:21

orangedream · 10/06/2025 15:12

I think you're in shock and trying to cling to the idea that your reality hasn't changed. Your husband had an affair and was thinking about divorce. I wouldn't be making excuses for him like his mother is ill.

But it can take time to process these things and realise where you are now.

Agree.

My mum had aggressive cancer for 3 years before she died and if anything I fell even more in love with DH and wanted and needed him more than ever. Not once have I ever considered cheating on him anyway but certainly not during such a traumatic time. When you are caring for someone terminally ill you don't generally have the brain space for even normal day-to-day life, never mind extra-marital affairs.

BetterWithPockets · 10/06/2025 15:23

Haven’t RTFT, OP, just your updates, so I’m sure someone else will already have said this, but remember you don’t have to make a decision now and stick to it. You can take your time to work out what’s best for you and your children, and if you do decide to try to make it work, you can then change your mind at any point.