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DH Affair. How do I cope with family holiday?

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EmmaThompsonsTears · 01/06/2025 15:23

New account in case outing.

I’ve just found out in the last 24 hours that my husband has been having an affair for the last 9 months at least.
2 DCs - 4 & 18m.

He doesn’t know I know. I plan to keep it that way so I can see a solicitor and sort out finances. But we leave for a family holiday tomorrow, and I feel like I’m going to explode.

How can I get through this week? Hand hold needed. Any advice welcome.

I’ve been lurking on these threads for a while and felt in my gut I was a victim of The Script. Checked his phone while he was asleep and I was right. Please help.

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Firefly100 · 13/06/2025 08:20

Why not take him at his word? State this marriage is over, killed by his poor behaviour and infidelity. But offer that if he goes through the divorce you will now file amicably and reasonably then you offer him the chance to date you and win you back again. Offer this as the only way back to you but with sincerity that you will truly give him a chance - and mean it. Anyone genuinely remorseful and committed to you will accept this fair price of the betrayal.

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LadyDanburysHat · 13/06/2025 08:31

Oh goodness, really rooting for you to stay strong on this. He hasn't changed, he was giving you a little of what you have desperately missed because he is about to lose it all. He doesn't really care or he wouldn't have done this in the first place. File fast.

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EmmaThompsonsTears · 13/06/2025 08:38

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I’m honoured to have ticked this box on mumsnet bingo, but I’m afraid I didn’t have your last post deleted. I’m not sure how it works but maybe someone else reported it. But I don’t know why because it’s not exactly abusive is it (unlike DH).

unfortunately @CRCGran this is real life. I’ve changed a few fine details to avoid things being outing but the feelings and the primary facts are all true.

The way DH has behaved since “confessing” is exactly why I didn’t tell him I knew. He’s got inside my head and confused me. He’s given me the basic affection I’ve been begging for for months, and as someone else said the fact that he can just turn it on like that is frankly disturbing. I BEGGED him before. And he didn’t care because he had her. Now that the affair has fizzled out like a damp squib, he’s ready to work on “us” again.

hes extremely upset by my anger, but doesn’t invalidate it. He’s accepted the impact of all of his abuse, understood what he’s done, shown me messages with OW, and stood there and taken it for four hours while I raged at him. He’s reached out for counselling/therapy, which again I begged him to get ages ago. His obvious depression is a reason, not an excuse.

the house is going on the market either way. I don’t see how we can ever come back from this. But he’s got inside my head and I’m scared of the custody battle. I don’t want to not see the kids for days in a row because of what HE did. And this is the problem with no fault divorce.

The anger I’m feeling is a gift and a warning. I’m not giving up just yet.

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EmmaThompsonsTears · 13/06/2025 08:41

GrandmasCat · 13/06/2025 05:28

Whether they had sex or not is irrelevant, you have seen the betrayal and his love for her in his texts. He has been treating you badly while he was at it and now he deserves a chance because he claims to have stayed away from her bed throughout? And you are believing him?

The bottom line OP, is that he checked out months or years ago, he wouldn’t have put himself in this position if he was content in his relationship, people who valued their relationship won’t entertain advances that can eventually result in an affair. He was playing with fire and enjoying it.

My bet is that he has “switched” back because the OW did not see that little family holiday kindly, she is not stupid, she has realised he was a cheater leading her on so she is gone. Now, wifey at home, the one he is taking for granted wants out too… His love has not returned, men love a good challenge, by showing him you want out you have become that mountain that is still to be climbed and conquered but believe me, the moment you switch back to nice wife mode, he will start missing the trill of the ego trip he had with OW or a new one.

I know a couple who had managed to survive his affair and come out stronger as a couple. He no longer takes her for granted, both know that she knows now she can leave him if she wishes, which has created a new balance and respect in the relationship they didn’t have before but it is not as if all is good, she is now hyper vigilant, she seems to devote a lot of time showing off how great they are together see every single woman as a potential threat. It obviously works for her but… the trust issues he has created for her will never go.

Your third paragraph is exactly what’s happened. I’ve seen the messages.

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EmmaThompsonsTears · 13/06/2025 08:46

Izz81 · 13/06/2025 07:10

If OP has decided to have him back, nothing anyone here says will change her mind. Unfortunately, I imagine like myself, we can see the writing on the wall from experience. OP more than likely wants to keep everything stable for her and the kids and may be for a few weeks/months it will be….Until he drops back in to old ways, she cant get the thoughts replaying in her mind of him and OW to end. This marriage will end. Unfortunately, some women have to ride it out to the end rather than step off and end the ride on her terms I do get it, its tough. I do wish OP all the best, its awful to be cheated on but its going to be a lot worse knowingly living a lie. Been there Unfortunately. Good luck, OP!

Thank you 🙏🏻 I’m not going to lie, I feel like this is exactly what my future looks like. I just hope it’s weeks not years.

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notadrift · 13/06/2025 08:46

OP, there will be NO custody "battle" you will have the DCs much more to begin with, as one is still a baby.

He wants 50/50 (which he will not do) in order to not pay CM.
It is a story as old as time.

He will say you are in therapy, other horrible things to try and get his way. But it will not work. Please believe me.

notadrift · 13/06/2025 08:50

Please learn from my mistake:
I had a malignant narcissist husband. I tried to negotiate (6 months) He then stalled/courts backed up for 2 years. Throwing all he could to do so.

File for divorce IMMEDIATELY.
Get the ball rolling.

wrongthinker · 13/06/2025 08:58

OP just do it. File for divorce. You've found a great solicitor. Do it while he still thinks you won't. He's going to fuck you over - get the upper hand.

MiniCooperLover · 13/06/2025 09:00

Come on OP, he is of course scared and upset. Scared and upset to lose his lovely house, his finances, etc. You and the kids are way down the list. He will not want custody.

Go for Lawyer No.3, you want a straight talking, hard working lawyer who will have seen much worse than this and so will fight for you. There will be zero emotion involved from the lawyer but that's absolutely right. I work in a law firm and can tell you our Family lawyers have seen some awful stunts pulled by parents over the years so this should be quite straight forward for her.

notadrift · 13/06/2025 09:00

He really WILL fuck you over. Get on with it. I know exactly how you are feeling but you will thank us all later. I promise.

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PlayDoh135 · 13/06/2025 09:04

Where does it say OP told husband about the divorce?
I've missed something.

boxtop · 13/06/2025 09:05

notadrift · 13/06/2025 08:07

Crikey, why has my post about how men hide cash been hidden, instantly? It was just based on my own divorce.

I think they temporarily hide anything that mentions crypto for spam-filter reasons

MadinMarch · 13/06/2025 09:08

NescafeAndIce · 12/06/2025 21:39

The fact that it took the OW giving him the elbow for him to give you a cuddle

Also this, as a pp said.

So did he have an opportunity to contact her after you told him today you'd been seriously thinking of divorcing?

Op says he went to visit his parents. I imagine what he actually did was use that time to speak with the OW.
So manipulative of him!

BeesAndCrumpets · 13/06/2025 09:09

OP - stay angry. Please.

OldGothsFadeToGrey · 13/06/2025 09:09

EmmaThompsonsTears · 13/06/2025 08:46

Thank you 🙏🏻 I’m not going to lie, I feel like this is exactly what my future looks like. I just hope it’s weeks not years.

How long is entirely up to you. Appreciate it’s a really tough situation to be in. I have been here too, no kids though x

This is the wobble. Everyone has a wobble. You are allowed at least one when making life impacting decisions.

Whatever happens - you found your strength once. It’s still there. It’s hard to break free from an abuser. Good men don’t treat their wives like he’s treated you. But life with them was good once and it’s scary to risk losing the promise of change. Even if you work on your marriage, don’t let him bully that strength out of you again. If you are back here in a few weeks/months etc we will be here for you.

Volpini · 13/06/2025 09:09

As others have said he really will fuck you over. Why? Because he’s spent the last 9 months doing exactly that. Not just the affair, which was bad enough, but his cold-hearted determination to make you suffer whilst he was conducting it. That’s the real betrayal and the thing I would not be able to move on from.
His being nice to you is more of the same. He’s a stone-cold bastard. He’s shown you who is, and how he operates. Smile. Pretend to be back in side and so happy he’s back in your arms, all the time gathering what you need whilst you file.
I would not feel one ounce of guilt about this - because this is exactly what he’s already told you he will do to you (“get nasty over custody.”)
The things you have got here are your kids’ best interests at heart, a lawyer lined up - and a remaining element of surprise. Use all of this.
Sending you all the very best.

MissMoneyFairy · 13/06/2025 09:11

He's blubbing and threatening suicide if you leave but he's not so distraught to say he'll make custody difficult. He's hedging is bets, ow has dumped him.

notadrift · 13/06/2025 09:14

One thing to keep front and centre is that being abuse to you (verbally) in front of DCs is child abuse.
Saying bad things "mummy tripped you up" to DCs is child abuse.
This needs to be mentioned to your lawyer.

Forget the infidelity. Totally irrelevant.

I have quite literally been through all this very recently.

Cillaere · 13/06/2025 09:14

My ex threatened suicide when I got rid of him, and guess what? He is still walking around the place like the jerk that he is.

SlowestHorse · 13/06/2025 09:17

I have been where you are. I called time in desperation about 7 years into my previously mentioned “12 Years With A Narcissist” stint. It had taken me far too long because in my head I had to be able to get him to agree I was right to end it, because I was so scared of him telling me I was being silly, disagreeing with me, and somehow I felt like I had to justify myself. He cried. He said all the right things. He agreed to go to Relate with me. He agreed to come to bed at the same time as me most nights and not sit up on the internet telling everyone they were wrong. He agreed to be nicer to my mum.

After the initial heady burst of relief, and then the sensation that together we were unbeatable (nothing quite brings you together like this sort of catalyst), I felt…trapped. Even worse than before. I had bloody done it, I had said it, and then I had gone back on it and it would be even harder than before.

It didn’t last very long before we were back where we’d been, but I felt even more stuck. And since it hadn’t worked once, why would it work if I tried to leave again? Eventually, he did what your DH has done - flicked a switch and treated me dreadfully for months, making everything my fault (taking his hand when we were out for a walk was “clingy”, for example), ruining my graduation ceremony for my second degree (aged 39!) and spoiling the day for me, my mum and my best friend by making it very obvious he didn’t want to be there, etc. Then he said he “wasn’t sure he wanted to be with me and was making his mind up”. I spent two weeks of hell waiting to hear my fate, during which time he wanted to have sex, drive me to the station, host a dinner party, and “go on as normal”.

Long story short, he then called time. Said there was no-one else. I found out three months later there was, and had been, for quite some time. (He stayed in the house for months because it suited him while I bought him out, I had to play that very carefully).

Anyway. Moral of the story is wait for the cold light of day before giving him another chance. If he was really serious about you, your family, your feelings, he wouldn’t be slyly telling you how hard he’d fight for custody - that’s just to scare you and put you off. The reality is the court will do what’s best for the children and he will not paint himself in a good light. Hang in there, and remember: tomorrow is likely to be better than today; next week better than this week; and so on. One breath at a time.

Youdontseehow · 13/06/2025 09:21

@EmmaThompsonsTears - I’m so sorry you are going through and it’s so so so very hard - picturing your DC devastation at the family splitting up - especially when it’s something their should-be protector has done.

But - your marriage is broken. Your husband has taken a chain saw to it. He’s a scumbag but he’s your DC dad.

My take would be to go through with at least an official legal separation. This will show him you really are prepared to end the marriage.

If his changed behaviour does continue and the marriage begins to be rebuilt - but it will need to be a different marriage - then there is nothing stopping you from fully reconciling - but this needs to be at least a year. He needs to really, really change and show change consistently.

If you accept him back now, he will know consciously- but more important in MHO is that he will know this at a subconscious level. Our subconscious drives about 95% of our behaviours - it’s why people can cheat and wreak havoc on their families. They know it’s wrong but their subconscious desires and affirmations lead them. This is much the same with addiction.

I wish you luck but will say again - you are kicking the can further down the street if you simply allow him back in through superficial promises and hugs. 💐

Ilady · 13/06/2025 09:23

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