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Help me figure out how to tell him

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TwinklingPotato · 19/05/2025 11:52

Hello!

Let me preface this by saying I'm fairly sure I have Stockholm Syndrome, at least on a lower level. My friend showed me some stuff on it and yep, it makes sense..

I have been with my partner almost 13 years. We are unmarried, no children. He owns our home outright (inherited).

I moved in quickly, after a few months. I'd lived with him around 6 months, living off of my savings and his. We had fun, we laughed, it was new and exciting. He then said he didn't feel I was bringing enough to the table, that I should get a job, which I did. I have worked ever since (albeit in various positions climbing a ladder I didn't even realise I was on!). I now earn a good wage for my career.

He is (was) self employed. He stopped working with any regularity within a year of me moving in. The work dried up to some extent, he stopped looking, too. He said he would do the house up (it was very old fashioned!).

For the last three years, he's submitted a zero tax return, before that, he earned less than £2k per year (and that was largely the Covid payments he got, which shows how little he earned before that). I have paid 100% of the bills, food, gifts, all and any purchases for a decade.

He's done the bathroom (not 100% there but more or less), and 70% of the living room. He's also created two spaces for himself in two of the 3 bedrooms. One is a workshop, the other is a room for his hobby.

He is now working on his hobby, because he can, and because I have indulged him. He hopes it will make him some money (it's creative). Since 202 it hasn't, but it has cost (me) a lot in equipment, subscriptions, and software.

He sees no need to get any kind of paid employment. Because if he did, that would mean he would spend the weekends working on the house because he'd be out working all week, and then there would be no point being in a relationship.

Lots of this has come to a head for me recently, and I am really resenting it. I really don't enjoy my current position and would like to leave. doing so would mean a pay cut and he's not a fan of that. He'd rather I was unhappy because it supports us both really well.

I have been looking at houses to rent and have found one, and I really want to go for it.

However, I am racked with guilt and uncertainty.

  • Is it better to stay where I am, and keep paying for everything for us both, but not have to worry about paying rent. Though I can't decorate or hang pictures etc., it's very much his house.
  • I'm worried about him and how he will survive. He's in his 50s, so my sane mind knows he'll be ok and that he's not my responsibility, but my attached mind is concerned and putting him before me.
  • I've sacrificed marriage and having children to sustain this relationship for this long. It started with promises that went nowhere, and now I am childless and in my 40s.
  • If I don't praise him he gets angry, if I ask him to consider getting a job, he says that would mean the end of the relationship.

I know the right thing to do is go, I just don't know how to. I don't know what to say to him. I don't want to hurt him or throw accusations at him. I've allowed the situation, too.

How should I word it, what shall I say? When? Should I wait until I have somewhere to go, or tell him before? Or should I stay?

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ruddygreattiger · 19/05/2025 11:55

'This isn't working for me anymore' covers it.

Put yourself first.

Apothecary266 · 19/05/2025 11:55

Just leave. It's not worth it. You've sacrificed everything and him nothing.

Eccythumpy · 19/05/2025 11:56

Apply for the rental.
This man could kick you out of his house whenever he chooses leaving you homeless .
He doesn't care about you, only about how you make his life easy.

Icanttakethisanymore · 19/05/2025 11:57

Gosh, given the way he is treated you I wouldn't lose any sleep about how you deliver the message or when you do it. Just leave; you owe him less than nothing.

Whiteflowerscreed · 19/05/2025 11:58

Completely have the new place ready to go. Have the keys and have moved some important items of yours in.

Then tell him one evening (are you scared of him?) and maybe even write things down in a letter. Don’t get dragged into a long conversation. Head to your new place.

if you don’t have your new place lined up he will feel you back in like a spider catching a fly on a web and I fear you will be stuck forever

IShouldNotCoco · 19/05/2025 11:59

You don’t owe him a relationship.

babystarsandmoon · 19/05/2025 11:59

I would consider not telling him until I was packing and leaving.

Snorlaxo · 19/05/2025 12:02

I would tell him once I secured the rental and moved my stuff out.

He’s a grown man who can work out his next steps just as he did before he met you. Whether it’s getting a job or finding a new sugar mummy, leave that to him to sort.

TwinklingPotato · 19/05/2025 12:03

Wow, thank you all so much.

Yes, I had thought to make sure I had somewhere to go. I'm not scared of him, I've been in a physically violent relationship before, he has never been violent.

He is being so calm at the moment. Texting and saying he loves me, holding my hand on the sofa, that kind of thing. I know it's a cycle and it will revert to telling me how much more important his job is, how being creative is so much harder than what I do..

As soon as I say I'm not happy he'll either tell me all the things "we" should change, or he'll tell me to get out.. so I would definitely need somewhere lined up.

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thedancingclown · 19/05/2025 12:03

Have a new place ready to move into first, get your affairs in order so you can live independently of him and just say bye on your way out.

you really do not owe him anything but, like ripping a plaster off, a quick this is not for me anymore will be fine. Do not get involved in an in-depth discussion.

PussInBin20 · 19/05/2025 12:05

Blimey, you’ve been fully supporting him for 12 years?

And why on earth have you been paying for equipment, subscriptions and software for his hobby?

Time to think of yourself now and leave him to it. You don’t need to feel any guilt. Take the rental and just tell him you are going!

TomatoSandwiches · 19/05/2025 12:10

You say he's not violent but he very well could be when he realises you have somewhere to go and the gravy train is coming to a stop.
I would get your new home sorted first, move your important things in and leave quietly without telling him, leave a letter but don't tell him face to face, he doesn't deserve that any way and it keeps you safe.

candycane222 · 19/05/2025 12:10

He probably thinks his "art" is "important". It isn't. (Other than to him).

If you are worried the world might suffer from the loss of his talent when he is earning something to live off, I'm here to tell you that we won't. Even if he's bloody Picasso, we'll get by 👍

TwinklingPotato · 19/05/2025 12:12

Thanks, again.

I've paid it all because I believed I was in love, and that's what you did to support your partner.

Something rather big and personal occurred and I realised that support wasn't coming back to me. He helps out with my hobby (which I spend 5 hours a week on) when I need him to, that's been for the last 15 months, and he now uses that as the reason I should help him.

If I look at this as if it's not me in the relationship, I can see it so clearly. I just feel so responsible for him, I need to remind myself he's not my child, but it's hard to turn your back on someone. I think he is quite emotionally vulnerable. but again, is that how I've been programmed to think?

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candycane222 · 19/05/2025 12:12

TomatoSandwiches · 19/05/2025 12:10

You say he's not violent but he very well could be when he realises you have somewhere to go and the gravy train is coming to a stop.
I would get your new home sorted first, move your important things in and leave quietly without telling him, leave a letter but don't tell him face to face, he doesn't deserve that any way and it keeps you safe.

Yes and do it like this. When he's threatened to throw you out before, it's very likely to have been just that - a threat to keep you in line. If he finds out you have "disrespected" his "needs" he might sing a very different tune.

Whiteflowerscreed · 19/05/2025 12:13

You can still be kind and fair while leaving the relationship. You can be sympathetic/ empathetic, remind him there were some good bits and just not slag him off and leave with dignity.

but you do need to leave

TwinklingPotato · 19/05/2025 12:23

Yes, I'd like to be kind, He has been a part of my life for so long, maybe not totally in the way I thought, but he has held me when I've cried, we have made it through some huge arguments and some total heartbreak. I just can't see a way forwards when he doesn't think he has to meet me halfway financially.

I used to do all of the cooking, too. that stopped earlier in the year as he thought I was potentially doing something to his food to make him ill. He even went to the GP for a stool sample and blood test..

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IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 19/05/2025 12:28

Whiteflowerscreed · 19/05/2025 11:58

Completely have the new place ready to go. Have the keys and have moved some important items of yours in.

Then tell him one evening (are you scared of him?) and maybe even write things down in a letter. Don’t get dragged into a long conversation. Head to your new place.

if you don’t have your new place lined up he will feel you back in like a spider catching a fly on a web and I fear you will be stuck forever

This.

Ducks in a row. Go.

You owe him nothing. Leave a letter, don't even tell him where you're going if you don't want. Block him on your phone/WhatsApp/social media.

Just go. Make your life your own.

Dreambouse · 19/05/2025 12:33

I agree with others, secure a place to live etc and then just say its not working for me anymore. You could go into detail but it'll probably cause more hassle and questions. If he seemed decent I'd say its fairer to be honest but that's not the case so just do what you need to.

ItGhoul · 19/05/2025 12:34

This isn't Stockholm Syndrome. He isn't your captor. You have an emotional attachment to him because he's your partner of 13 years, not because he's been keeping you locked in the cellar and is the one who feeds you and lets you use the toilet.

He is, however, a twat and you should dump him because he contributes nothing to your relationship whatsoever. I'm actually amused that he's said he'll leave you if he has to get a job... because if he leaves you, he will still have to get a job because he won't have your income to live off.

In your shoes, I would be inclined to tell him at the last possible moment. Once your new place is sorted and you're ready to go, basically. If you tell him too far in advance, he'll have time to either sweet-talk you into staying with a load of empty promises, whereas as if the rental place is a done deal, it's too late for him to talk you into changing your plans. Alternatively, if he has form for being nasty, then you obviously don't want to have to live with him (or be thrown out with none of your stuff and find yourself having to find temporary accommodation) for weeks before you can move into your new place.

You are absolutely doing the right thing by leaving. This isn't a good or fair relationship and he's incredibly selfish. Just because he owns the house, that doesn't mean it's OK for him to leech off you like this.

Well done for taking the leap and making the decision.

S0j0urn4r · 19/05/2025 12:35

I know the right thing to do is go, I just don't know how to.
Sort out somewhere to live
Pack your stuff
Walk out the door.
Tell him you're no longer happy in the relationship but wish him well.

ItGhoul · 19/05/2025 12:36

TwinklingPotato · 19/05/2025 12:23

Yes, I'd like to be kind, He has been a part of my life for so long, maybe not totally in the way I thought, but he has held me when I've cried, we have made it through some huge arguments and some total heartbreak. I just can't see a way forwards when he doesn't think he has to meet me halfway financially.

I used to do all of the cooking, too. that stopped earlier in the year as he thought I was potentially doing something to his food to make him ill. He even went to the GP for a stool sample and blood test..

I used to do all of the cooking, too. that stopped earlier in the year as he thought I was potentially doing something to his food to make him ill

So essentially, he's insane.

Todayisaday · 19/05/2025 12:39

One day, when he is out. Just leave.
Move your stuff into storage, book a removals van for that day. Find a temproary accomodation or air bnb while you look for a rental.
Never look back.

SomewhereinSuberbia · 19/05/2025 12:40

OP I sympathise. I put up with a partner who never contributed for years too.
When we finally split I was in my 40's and I did wonder what he would do.

He has just got a bedsit and signed on. I did wonder if he would get a job and he has gone on a self employed scheme with the job centre and has to show that it can be profitable and meet targets every month (1500 profit.) That may be what your ex will end up doing and he will be required to apply for jobs if it is not working.

You are leaving your partner with a really nice house and you don't have one, and so I think he should think of you with nothing but gratitude. He has been extremely lucky to have had an easy life for so long, he could sell the house and move to a flat if he wants money.

Someone2025 · 19/05/2025 12:41

TwinklingPotato · 19/05/2025 11:52

Hello!

Let me preface this by saying I'm fairly sure I have Stockholm Syndrome, at least on a lower level. My friend showed me some stuff on it and yep, it makes sense..

I have been with my partner almost 13 years. We are unmarried, no children. He owns our home outright (inherited).

I moved in quickly, after a few months. I'd lived with him around 6 months, living off of my savings and his. We had fun, we laughed, it was new and exciting. He then said he didn't feel I was bringing enough to the table, that I should get a job, which I did. I have worked ever since (albeit in various positions climbing a ladder I didn't even realise I was on!). I now earn a good wage for my career.

He is (was) self employed. He stopped working with any regularity within a year of me moving in. The work dried up to some extent, he stopped looking, too. He said he would do the house up (it was very old fashioned!).

For the last three years, he's submitted a zero tax return, before that, he earned less than £2k per year (and that was largely the Covid payments he got, which shows how little he earned before that). I have paid 100% of the bills, food, gifts, all and any purchases for a decade.

He's done the bathroom (not 100% there but more or less), and 70% of the living room. He's also created two spaces for himself in two of the 3 bedrooms. One is a workshop, the other is a room for his hobby.

He is now working on his hobby, because he can, and because I have indulged him. He hopes it will make him some money (it's creative). Since 202 it hasn't, but it has cost (me) a lot in equipment, subscriptions, and software.

He sees no need to get any kind of paid employment. Because if he did, that would mean he would spend the weekends working on the house because he'd be out working all week, and then there would be no point being in a relationship.

Lots of this has come to a head for me recently, and I am really resenting it. I really don't enjoy my current position and would like to leave. doing so would mean a pay cut and he's not a fan of that. He'd rather I was unhappy because it supports us both really well.

I have been looking at houses to rent and have found one, and I really want to go for it.

However, I am racked with guilt and uncertainty.

  • Is it better to stay where I am, and keep paying for everything for us both, but not have to worry about paying rent. Though I can't decorate or hang pictures etc., it's very much his house.
  • I'm worried about him and how he will survive. He's in his 50s, so my sane mind knows he'll be ok and that he's not my responsibility, but my attached mind is concerned and putting him before me.
  • I've sacrificed marriage and having children to sustain this relationship for this long. It started with promises that went nowhere, and now I am childless and in my 40s.
  • If I don't praise him he gets angry, if I ask him to consider getting a job, he says that would mean the end of the relationship.

I know the right thing to do is go, I just don't know how to. I don't know what to say to him. I don't want to hurt him or throw accusations at him. I've allowed the situation, too.

How should I word it, what shall I say? When? Should I wait until I have somewhere to go, or tell him before? Or should I stay?

Find a place to stay first and then leave,
Gradually start organising your possessions so you will be ready to leave quickly

Find another job and enjoy the rest of your life

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