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Help me figure out how to tell him

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TwinklingPotato · 19/05/2025 11:52

Hello!

Let me preface this by saying I'm fairly sure I have Stockholm Syndrome, at least on a lower level. My friend showed me some stuff on it and yep, it makes sense..

I have been with my partner almost 13 years. We are unmarried, no children. He owns our home outright (inherited).

I moved in quickly, after a few months. I'd lived with him around 6 months, living off of my savings and his. We had fun, we laughed, it was new and exciting. He then said he didn't feel I was bringing enough to the table, that I should get a job, which I did. I have worked ever since (albeit in various positions climbing a ladder I didn't even realise I was on!). I now earn a good wage for my career.

He is (was) self employed. He stopped working with any regularity within a year of me moving in. The work dried up to some extent, he stopped looking, too. He said he would do the house up (it was very old fashioned!).

For the last three years, he's submitted a zero tax return, before that, he earned less than £2k per year (and that was largely the Covid payments he got, which shows how little he earned before that). I have paid 100% of the bills, food, gifts, all and any purchases for a decade.

He's done the bathroom (not 100% there but more or less), and 70% of the living room. He's also created two spaces for himself in two of the 3 bedrooms. One is a workshop, the other is a room for his hobby.

He is now working on his hobby, because he can, and because I have indulged him. He hopes it will make him some money (it's creative). Since 202 it hasn't, but it has cost (me) a lot in equipment, subscriptions, and software.

He sees no need to get any kind of paid employment. Because if he did, that would mean he would spend the weekends working on the house because he'd be out working all week, and then there would be no point being in a relationship.

Lots of this has come to a head for me recently, and I am really resenting it. I really don't enjoy my current position and would like to leave. doing so would mean a pay cut and he's not a fan of that. He'd rather I was unhappy because it supports us both really well.

I have been looking at houses to rent and have found one, and I really want to go for it.

However, I am racked with guilt and uncertainty.

  • Is it better to stay where I am, and keep paying for everything for us both, but not have to worry about paying rent. Though I can't decorate or hang pictures etc., it's very much his house.
  • I'm worried about him and how he will survive. He's in his 50s, so my sane mind knows he'll be ok and that he's not my responsibility, but my attached mind is concerned and putting him before me.
  • I've sacrificed marriage and having children to sustain this relationship for this long. It started with promises that went nowhere, and now I am childless and in my 40s.
  • If I don't praise him he gets angry, if I ask him to consider getting a job, he says that would mean the end of the relationship.

I know the right thing to do is go, I just don't know how to. I don't know what to say to him. I don't want to hurt him or throw accusations at him. I've allowed the situation, too.

How should I word it, what shall I say? When? Should I wait until I have somewhere to go, or tell him before? Or should I stay?

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JustGotToKeepOnKeepingOn · 20/05/2025 17:04

Well done OP. I hope the move goes smoothly.

thedancingclown · 20/05/2025 17:22

Good luck. Just bear in mind that whilst you have been building up to this it may come as a bolt out of the blue for him. Really try not to get into a discussion- say your piece and just leave.

IThoughtHeWasWithYou · 20/05/2025 17:27

thedancingclown · 20/05/2025 17:22

Good luck. Just bear in mind that whilst you have been building up to this it may come as a bolt out of the blue for him. Really try not to get into a discussion- say your piece and just leave.

Yes I agree with this. Don’t let him keep you talking, just tell him how it is and leave so he doesn’t see any sign of weakness he can try to exploit.

Also be prepared for him to promise you THE WORLD if you come back: he’ll promise kids, marriage, name on the house deeds but none of that would ever materialise I promise you.

NigellaWannabe1 · 20/05/2025 18:11

OP, I do think it might make more sense to move out first and then meet up with him somewhere public to let him know. I worry he might overreact, or not let you out of the house on the grounds you’re temporarily mad or whatever else. Or he might threaten you. Take your passport out straight away, any key documents. You can always say you can’t find them if he smells a rat.

Stay strong, OP! We’re all with you.

tsmainsqueeze · 20/05/2025 20:31

TwinklingPotato · 20/05/2025 12:52

I've done it... I've signed the tenancy agreement!

It starts on 1 June, so I will plan to start moving things in from day one..

Oh god, it's the right thing, isn't it? I deserve more don't I? I'm not imagining how bad things are..

Wow that is absolutely bloody amazingly fantastic ! you are amazing !
Not one shadow of doubt that you have done the right thing , think how lovely your new home will eventually be ,you can put whatever you like on the walls , see who you like ,whenever you like and buy whatever you want with YOUR OWN money !
You have made the first step into your wonderful new life , i am very happy for you🤗

FumbDucker · 20/05/2025 20:45

You’re much stronger than he gives you credit for 👏👏👏👏

Your life BEGINS on 1st June!!

MounjaroMounjaro · 20/05/2025 21:09

Think of it as moving to something as opposed to moved away from him. I'm so glad you made this decision.

Tooty78 · 20/05/2025 21:26

NigellaWannabe1 · 20/05/2025 18:11

OP, I do think it might make more sense to move out first and then meet up with him somewhere public to let him know. I worry he might overreact, or not let you out of the house on the grounds you’re temporarily mad or whatever else. Or he might threaten you. Take your passport out straight away, any key documents. You can always say you can’t find them if he smells a rat.

Stay strong, OP! We’re all with you.

This is really good advice OP, as you don't know how he will react. You need to make sure you are safe.

Good luck with your move, and your new life.

LadyHexham · 21/05/2025 10:41

The place is between work and my current home, so I will bring bits and pieces to work and drop them off on the way home

He doesn't have a tracker of any sort on your phone, does he?

NigellaWannabe1 · 21/05/2025 11:03

Another idea is to move earlier, as soon as you can - book a cheap AirBnB somewhere if your new place is not ready to move in yet.

TwinklingPotato · 21/05/2025 11:32

Goodness thank you all so much - you don't know how much I needed to read your messages this morning. I hardly slept last night worrying I'd done the wrong thing. But I'm legally tied in now for 12 months, so I have to do it.

It's totally the right thing I'm doing, isn't it. Is the doubt normal?

He was up playing guitar until almost midnight Sunday, knowing I had to get up for work Monday. Is he just thoughtless, or is it on purpose (I suspect the latter..).

I don't have a passport or anything, my birth certificate is in the office as I needed it for referencing checks.

Oh my gosh..

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TwinklingPotato · 21/05/2025 11:33

LadyHexham · 21/05/2025 10:41

The place is between work and my current home, so I will bring bits and pieces to work and drop them off on the way home

He doesn't have a tracker of any sort on your phone, does he?

I have checked my phone, I'm not sure if there is anything on my car, though.

He sent me a message once when I had left work early to go and view a house, saying "are you finishing early today", so I am a little bit suspicious..

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MNpenisadvisor · 21/05/2025 11:40

Take your car to a garage and ask them to look

Codlingmoths · 21/05/2025 11:44

Well done op!! One foot in front of the other, you can do it. You’ve earned your freedom.

TwinklingPotato · 21/05/2025 11:45

MNpenisadvisor · 21/05/2025 11:40

Take your car to a garage and ask them to look

It is going in for a service shortly, so I will ask them to check it over.. Apparently you can buy detectors as well or something?

Not too concerned, I think it was likely me being paranoid because I was doing something behind his back

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its2346 · 21/05/2025 11:46

😱 Yikes! Go get your car checked. And your phone. Then, if you find anything, behave knowing he’s tracking you. Only stop the tracking when you leave.

its2346 · 21/05/2025 11:47

TwinklingPotato · 21/05/2025 11:45

It is going in for a service shortly, so I will ask them to check it over.. Apparently you can buy detectors as well or something?

Not too concerned, I think it was likely me being paranoid because I was doing something behind his back

Does he often ask you if you’re leaving work early?

MonaChopsis · 21/05/2025 11:49

@TwinklingPotato just to say you are doing the right thing. Leaving is going to be really hard, he will try and tug all your heartstrings to guilt you into staying. Create a vision in your head over the next couple of weeks of what you want your life to look like in a years time... Spending your own money without conflict, spending time with friends and family, decorating your bedroom how you want etc etc. Then hold on to that vision no matter what.

LadyMacbethssweetArabianhand · 21/05/2025 11:49

Given how controlling he sounds anyway, it wouldn't surprise me if he had put a tracker on your car. I believe it's illegal. You are absolutely doing the right thing. Keep going x

ItGhoul · 21/05/2025 11:53

TwinklingPotato · 21/05/2025 11:32

Goodness thank you all so much - you don't know how much I needed to read your messages this morning. I hardly slept last night worrying I'd done the wrong thing. But I'm legally tied in now for 12 months, so I have to do it.

It's totally the right thing I'm doing, isn't it. Is the doubt normal?

He was up playing guitar until almost midnight Sunday, knowing I had to get up for work Monday. Is he just thoughtless, or is it on purpose (I suspect the latter..).

I don't have a passport or anything, my birth certificate is in the office as I needed it for referencing checks.

Oh my gosh..

The doubt is normal with any big change in your life, but I promise you are 100% doing the right thing. Honestly, this man is horrible. His behaviour is weird, controlling and abusive. Take the step, move out, and enjoy your new place and all the freedom that will come with it!

Can't remember if you've said what you're doing about your finances, but make sure your salary isn't getting paid into a joint account and make sure you take your own money out of any joint bank account that you have, just before you leave. Set up a new account if you need to and ideally make sure no paperwork will get sent to his house where he might see it.

TwinklingPotato · 21/05/2025 11:53

its2346 · 21/05/2025 11:47

Does he often ask you if you’re leaving work early?

That was the first time, then yesterday he asked if I was leaving early today.. Perhaps he has something going on he doesn't want me to catch..

I'd love him to have an affair and to catch him, I would feel so much more resolute in leaving.

I really, really wish I could stop second guessing myself. I'm looking through rose tinted glasses today and thinking he's not that bad, he can be so lovely, he helps me do things, but there is pay back.

God I need to stop feeling guilty!!!

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mewkins · 21/05/2025 11:54

Op, considering he has shown controlling tendencies it may well be worth lining up a Ring doorbell for when you move. Also if you have security where you work, alerting them if you think it's necessary. I'd imagine that he may try to follow you out of work in order to find out where you live. Just make sure you're prepared and get a few friends /family around who can support you too.

its2346 · 21/05/2025 11:59

TwinklingPotato · 21/05/2025 11:53

That was the first time, then yesterday he asked if I was leaving early today.. Perhaps he has something going on he doesn't want me to catch..

I'd love him to have an affair and to catch him, I would feel so much more resolute in leaving.

I really, really wish I could stop second guessing myself. I'm looking through rose tinted glasses today and thinking he's not that bad, he can be so lovely, he helps me do things, but there is pay back.

God I need to stop feeling guilty!!!

All abusive men have some ‘good’ qualities, otherwise none of them would ever be able to hook a victim. Their good qualities doesn’t make them good people. Your man is at the upper end of the scale of appalling.

If you left early yesterday too then you really need to get car and phone checked.

It is possible he’s alert to a change in you. He knows he’s on thin ice with his behaviour - because his behaviour is unconscionable - so any change in you will make him alert and think about stepping up the control. So if you do find he has been tracking you, be very very careful about your safety going forwards.

Noshadelamp · 21/05/2025 12:18

TwinklingPotato · 21/05/2025 11:33

I have checked my phone, I'm not sure if there is anything on my car, though.

He sent me a message once when I had left work early to go and view a house, saying "are you finishing early today", so I am a little bit suspicious..

I don't know if this works with iPhone but with android where you're signed into your Google account, there's a setting that tracks your location. So someone could sign into your Google account and access that info.

I would definitely get the car checked.
He could have slipped an air tag down the side of a seat or in the glove box or boot. If you have an iPhone this will alert you but if you don't have an iPhone, you need to download an app that detects air tags nearby.

MoetUndChandon · 21/05/2025 12:20

It is absolutely normal to have doubts. You wouldn't be with him if there weren't something about him that you really like, and very few people are entirely bad.

It is very difficult to end relationships, and I don't think that gets enough credit.

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