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Would your partner have an opinion on your choice of underwear

145 replies

Aintallsunshineandrainbows · 01/05/2025 11:30

Feel like im going insane on this topic of underwear choice with my dh.
I wore a thong yesterday so i wouldnt have a knicker line and sometimes embarassingly they make me feel a bit more nicer about myself. But my dh thinks women wear thongs to gain other male attention.
The point he tried to make to me yesterday was that my trousers (which were dark green linen wide leg trousers) gathered round my bum at times because i was wearing a thong and that suggested i wore a thong because i wanted this effect to impress other males essentially.
I feel like im having to lower myself to explain that i just felt like wearing one with those trousers because it felt nice and as stupid as it sounds, it felt a bit more breezy in the hot sunshine wearing a thong with the throusers. It wasnt done for attention of other men but this is the type of crap said to me and i feel like i can never justify dressing up nice or wearing certain underwear because it suggests im wanting other men to check me out basically. When i explain im dressing up for myself or to impress him it falls on deaf ears....
When i say i was dressed nice yesterday i was wearing a black tshirt and khaki wide leg linen trousers and flip flops... im not out in tight skimpy clothes with loads of skin or my body on show.
I feel like i cant get this through to him. That my choice of underwear shouldnt suggest im doing it for other men to look at me.

Is this a normal thing?? Would your partner look at it that a thong is meant to be worn because youre trying to be sexual etc
Is it normal that he thinks in this context? I dont understand why theres an issue that sometimes i like to wear one. Feel like im even trying to justify this to myself now because prehaps hes right that it looks like im trying to be sexual or something??? But if that was the case id be wearing skimpy tight clothing etc... i purposely dont because of issues like this

OP posts:
StrawberryDream24 · 01/05/2025 15:38

Iwanttoliveonamountain · 01/05/2025 15:36

Check out your rear view - may e it reveals more than u think or like

Will that change the op's husband from stopping her from going out socially and calling her too untrustworthy to do so?

ItGhoul · 01/05/2025 15:44

My partner's opinion on my underwear is limited to a very rare observation like 'They're nice' if he notices I'm wearing a significantly more glamorous pair of knickers than usual.

He would never, ever in a million years accuse me of dressing to 'to attract other men', regardless of what I wore, and certainly not because of my underwear.

I'll honest: your partner sounds like an paranoid, controlling arsehole and a nasty piece of work who mostly makes you unhappy.

Sassybooklover · 01/05/2025 15:45

Your husband's attitude isn't normal and most certainly doesn't reflect men in general. My husband wouldn't give two hoots what underwear I wore to be honest. I don't wear thongs, I find them very uncomfortable, and would only wear one if I knew it wouldn't be staying on for long! Your husband is very insecure, and it's his insecurities that are talking, because he's not thinking logically. You shouldn't have to justify your underwear choice to him. Ultimately all you can do is reassure him, but unfortunately you can't change his mindset. Have you asked him why he's feeling so insecure?

MoominMai · 01/05/2025 15:45

StrawberryDream24 · 01/05/2025 15:37

This too.

I find possessive, jealous controlling men are often sleazes and cheaters or would-be cheaters.

They project their thinking and behaviour onto everyone else.

There are four women in my Mum's families - the only husbands who have/had a problem with them eg having a night out on their own (dinner, drinks, a music show) are the cheaters.

Sometimes not always though. Sometimes they’ve been badly hurt from a cheating ex and they take out their new insecurities on the next woman as happened to me. He only had eyes for me, would constantly compliment me but lost the plot if I had to go away for work. Wouldn’t believe that I had no choice but to go. Got cross if I received messages on a work group WhatsApp and hated even me having work men in for repairs (we lived apart). Was convinced I was looking for another man when not with him which is hilarious as I’m amazed I even got a BF as I’m so introverted, quiet and always dress modestly and a bit of a homebody. Doesn’t matter how many times I reassured him which was also crazy as he was frankly the most handsome guy I’d ever dated or likely will again, but it’s very tiring and very belittling to be accused of nonsense literally non stop so unfortunately for me I had to end it.

ItGhoul · 01/05/2025 15:46

Aintallsunshineandrainbows · 01/05/2025 14:53

Yes i wear makeup again when i can be bothered to mdke the effort.
No i dont go out with friends etc i learned a long time ago that i cant be trusted to do that either

OP, you are a victim of coercive control.

rubberduck68 · 01/05/2025 15:46

The men I've dated who wanted me to wear "sexy" lingerie in the bedroom were mostly idiots. The best men in my life have not cared what I wear, they were more interested in just getting it off!

nobodywantsit · 01/05/2025 15:48

Aintallsunshineandrainbows · 01/05/2025 14:40

So basically how my dh has been going on all these years isnt normal then and no one else has this issue within their relationship 😪
I think the other thing that makes it worse is that any of his insecurities are blamed on me or my attitude. For example me speaking to another man in a polite way or with a smile sets him off, im told im disrecptful, that when youre nice to other men youre giving them the come on essentially or that theres trouble in your relationship. I admit i am a people pleaser from childhood and do worry about how others see me and lack confidence so i do prehaps be a bit ott with the politeness but im also the same with women. Im not flirting with these men and they certainly arent flirting with me either. But my dh would see it that im being nice to this man because i have an attraction to him rather than im just being polite.
Ive never cheated on my partner but ive broke boundaries at times if he asks me to ignore an ex for example. I cant do that, if someone says hi to me i will acknowledge them back and it has created a lot of trust issues for him he says, because he thinks i still fancy these people or some immature thinking like that. I feel like i cant have a conversation with the opposite sex without serious backlash. And he claims ive broke his trust grounds because i cant "ignore" other men so there must be a want in me for their attebtion rather than his.

Hes brought all that up as well all because i wore a ceratin type of underwear so it leaves me feeling like ive no come bsck to argue my side. I feel like he just looks at me as if im some sort of man hungry woman who cant be trusted and its really getting to me because im so loyal to him. Id never betray him but theres so many issues involving men i feel like im losing my mind. Id understand if i had ever cheated on him etc but thats never happened. I just want to be comfortable in my marriage and for my husband to feel safe that hes the only man i love

I’m sorry to say this but I think your husband is a disgusting and controlling pig.

Any partner who holds and expresses these views is abusive IMO.

My partner would never ever say anything like this and only wants me to be happy and comfortable in how I look and what I wear.

He’s really done a number on you because you’ve spent so much time adapting to placate his awful views.

Fr0styfeet · 01/05/2025 15:50

DH has hidden my big pants to encourage me to wear the sexier pants lurking in the back of my knicker drawer!! He thinks he’s hilarious and is refusing to return them🙄

BashfulClam · 01/05/2025 15:51

Mine doesn’t care really but if he likes my pants he’ll say it. Other than that he couldn’t give less of a shit if they are thongs, granny scants, boy shorts etc. As long as he can grab my arse he’s quite happy.

blacksax · 01/05/2025 15:58

Aintallsunshineandrainbows · 01/05/2025 11:40

But thats the thing he loves it when i wear one when its just him that knows im wearing one. Its me wearing one outside of the home means i must be doing it for other men to oggle what is his and that im being disrespectful by doing that... that basically me wearing one when out and about means i must be doing it to impress other men! Thats how im making sense of it all from him

You actually love a man who has such a contemptuous attitude and low opinion of your morals, and who thinks you are deliberately dressing provocatively to get the attention of other men because you want them to lech over you?

And he doesn't like that because in his opinion your body belongs to him, so nobody else is allowed to look, and he thinks you are disrespecting him by not dressing in clothes he approves of?

Fucking hell.

ClickClickety · 01/05/2025 16:01

Aintallsunshineandrainbows · 01/05/2025 14:53

Yes i wear makeup again when i can be bothered to mdke the effort.
No i dont go out with friends etc i learned a long time ago that i cant be trusted to do that either

Very sad to hear this. He won't change so talking about it won't do anything and he will just make you dance to his tune.

I wonder if you have thought about how freeing it would be to live away from him?

ClickClickety · 01/05/2025 16:04

MoominMai · 01/05/2025 15:45

Sometimes not always though. Sometimes they’ve been badly hurt from a cheating ex and they take out their new insecurities on the next woman as happened to me. He only had eyes for me, would constantly compliment me but lost the plot if I had to go away for work. Wouldn’t believe that I had no choice but to go. Got cross if I received messages on a work group WhatsApp and hated even me having work men in for repairs (we lived apart). Was convinced I was looking for another man when not with him which is hilarious as I’m amazed I even got a BF as I’m so introverted, quiet and always dress modestly and a bit of a homebody. Doesn’t matter how many times I reassured him which was also crazy as he was frankly the most handsome guy I’d ever dated or likely will again, but it’s very tiring and very belittling to be accused of nonsense literally non stop so unfortunately for me I had to end it.

Edited

Glad you got away from that nightmare. It's quite possible that he didn't have a cheating ex though (or that the 'cheating' was being friends with a guy). Abusers often have a sob story to explain why they just have to have everything on their terms.

cheshirebloke · 01/05/2025 16:06

The thing is, he's judging everyone else by his own objectification of women. I wouldn't even notice if a woman was wearing a thong, because a) I wouldn't be staring at her arse that closely, and b) it wouldn't even be in my thought process to analyse her panty line. Believe it or not, majority of men are probably completely oblivious to the shape of your underwear underneath your other layers. So you should turn it around and call out your dp's perverted, degrading behaviour. And keep wearing whatever underwear you want.

BetterWithPockets · 01/05/2025 16:07

Aintallsunshineandrainbows · 01/05/2025 14:53

Yes i wear makeup again when i can be bothered to mdke the effort.
No i dont go out with friends etc i learned a long time ago that i cant be trusted to do that either

No i dont go out with friends etc i learned a long time ago that i cant be trusted to do that either

OP, this is really worrying. Stopping you from seeing friends is controlling, abusive behaviour on his part.

User37482 · 01/05/2025 16:11

DH has never said anything about my granny pants, I do insist on talking about them sometimes but he just nods along. Very strange and controlling imo.

Hollietree · 01/05/2025 16:11

He’s a sexist pig. He thinks that women only wear knickers in order to please men. Not because we wear the underwear that we bloody well want.

Plus he is telling you that he is looking at other women’s bottoms and noticing what kind of underwear they are wearing underneath.

🤮

User37482 · 01/05/2025 16:12

Aintallsunshineandrainbows · 01/05/2025 14:53

Yes i wear makeup again when i can be bothered to mdke the effort.
No i dont go out with friends etc i learned a long time ago that i cant be trusted to do that either

This is abusive and controlling. You need to LTB. A grown woman should be able to decide what she does with her own time.

BlackPantherPrincess · 01/05/2025 16:15

That is such an odd conclusion to jump to from your OH? If those were his views surely he’d tell you your arse looked nice that day?

QueenCremant · 01/05/2025 16:16

OP, I have only read your posts and not any responses so apologies if I’m repeating what others say.

His behaviour is not right and it is controlling. He is deeply insecure. I have been there and got the T-shirt. You end up a shell of yourself because you don’t want to piss him off. You stop wearing the thong and the nice clothes. You stop going out as you get questioned who you talk to. You get accused of fancying other men when you’ve barely noticed them. You end up questioning yourself and feeling guilty for something you haven’t done. Or you change your behaviour to appease him.

The question is where do you go from here? You now know that this is controlling behaviour. Maybe with counselling he can change if he recognises his behaviour is a problem. But it’s most likely that you will need to put up and shut up or leave him.

You love him but I implore you to love yourself more.

Iwanttoliveonamountain · 01/05/2025 16:21

StrawberryDream24 · 01/05/2025 15:38

Will that change the op's husband from stopping her from going out socially and calling her too untrustworthy to do so?

Nope. That’s his problem, isn’t it? And it’s nothing to do with her underwear.

BlaBlaBla87436780087 · 01/05/2025 16:23

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Agapornis · 01/05/2025 16:33

Please contact Women's Aid to discuss all the things he says and does, and how you've changed your behaviour to appease him/'keep the peace'. It must be so stressful having walked on eggshells for 20 years.

Do you have any children? How does he treat them?

EverythingThatHappensWillHappenToday · 01/05/2025 16:37

Fr0styfeet · 01/05/2025 15:50

DH has hidden my big pants to encourage me to wear the sexier pants lurking in the back of my knicker drawer!! He thinks he’s hilarious and is refusing to return them🙄

Edited

Jesus, what a knuckledragger. It must be fun living with someone who enjoys such "hilarious" japes.

Iloveeverycat · 01/05/2025 16:39

fruitpastille · 01/05/2025 15:13

So you can't smile or chat to other men.
You can't go out on your own with friends.
You can't wear underwear of your preference.
This is not a normal loving relationship built on trust.

And you can't wear dresses or shorts!
How have you put up with this abuse for 20 years. Is he older than you.

MsNevermore · 01/05/2025 16:39

This would be a massive red flag for me OP.

Trying to dictate what type of underwear you wear “so other men won’t look at you” ?!!???

He sounds extremely insecure and behaviour like this is often the start of exerting further control over a partner.
Whats next? Not allowed to wear shorts in the summer because men might see your legs? Not allowed to wear makeup?

My standard style of underwear is a Calvin Klein thong. The kind with the thick elastic waistband. If I want to avoid a visible knicker line, I wear their smaller g-string style. My DH tends to stand there and stare at my bum when I’ve got them on rather than imply I’m trying to entice other men 🤨🫠🫠🫠🫠