Page 9 | Has anyone ever used MDMA to fix a marriage?

theaccidentalcandidate · 2025-04-21T13:44:15+00:00

Background Ex ravers, married 20 years together 30 years, adult kids at University. Not taken drugs for 25 years, hardly drink. One partner still in love, the other not. Get on fine, don't argue, etc, no other people involved.

Yougetmoreofwhatyoufocuson · 21/04/2025 20:15

I would worry that the one who is still in love is going to feel it so intensely and be so much sadder when the other one isn’t.
On the other hand it could be the portal to really sharing in a loving way and see where it takes you, even if that means parting with love and respect.
Can you take the pills to a local festival for testing so you have reassurance that they are safe ones?

Gymbunny2025 · 21/04/2025 20:23

JudyGemstone · 21/04/2025 19:59

Agree the Reddit MDMA sub which be so much more helpful, this place is incredibly backwards when it comes to drugs.

Ive worked in psychedelic therapy and can confirm that there is strong evidence that ketamine/psilocybin/MDMA really do help people. I’ve seen it first hand many times.
also the comedown isn’t a thing unless you drink alcohol/get dehydrated/stay up all night etc.
no one gets comedowns in clinical settings.

as for where to get it from - the days of waiting for a guy on a street corner are long gone. It’s all ordered online and comes in the mail now. No need for dealers or anything having been shoved up anyones arsehole, straight from importer to customer.

If you have Tor then the dark web is best, but there are plenty of people selling directly on Instagram/telegram/whatsapp.

finally, most more mature dabblers use ‘landing gear’ for sleeping. Half a diazepam, amitriptyline or similar.

good luck and yes update us!

Ketamine?! 😳

JudyGemstone · 21/04/2025 20:51

adviceneeded1990 · 21/04/2025 20:02

Where does the mail come from? Where is it manufactured? How do those in a clinical setting ensure they aren’t party to exploitation of women,
children, etc?

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Obviously professionals don’t get drugs off the dark web - I was referring to recreational use, sorry that wasn’t clear

JudyGemstone · 21/04/2025 20:52

Gymbunny2025 · 21/04/2025 20:23

Ketamine?! 😳

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Yes ketamine, that well know dissociative anaesthetic that’s been used in medicine for decades.
it’s really good for treatment resistant depression and alcoholism. Google it!

NotSafeInTaxis · 21/04/2025 20:57

JudyGemstone · 21/04/2025 20:52

Yes ketamine, that well know dissociative anaesthetic that’s been used in medicine for decades.
it’s really good for treatment resistant depression and alcoholism. Google it!

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Genius. "My husband says he's not in love with me anymore, I'm going to give him an illegal hallucinogenic anaesthetic with dissociative properties that can cause memory loss, nausea and depression. What could possibly go wrong?!"

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nonmerci99 · 21/04/2025 21:01

WrylyAmused · 21/04/2025 14:55

Maybe look for a psychedelic friendly therapist?

Would imagine it would massively depend on why one partner is no longer in love. It probably wouldn't fix the underlying issues that have led to that, but depending on what they were, and if both were willing to work on them, then it might help with finding feelings of love and reconnection.

Just getting high without addressing the problem unlikely to be a long term solution though, however loved up you might feel under the influence.

Agreed. If the other partner is genuinely out of love, it may not help. But if it’s communication issues or the drudgery of married life that’s gotten in the way, it could help you reconnect. I’d try it.

Franpie · 21/04/2025 21:03

adviceneeded1990 · 21/04/2025 19:29

A lot of that is due to parenting - adults play down the dangers of alcohol because many UK adults are in denial about the amount they are drinking and thus modelling as “normal.” Alcohol when misused is exceptionally dangerous. As drugs can also be. I wouldn’t want my teen drinking to excess but I certainly wouldn’t want them to be part of a pill trade where someone else’s vulnerable teen is running county lines and destroying their young life. Our actions are about more than just us.

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It’s not that I want them to take any drug. I’m just saying that I worry about alcohol more. Far more than I do drugs. Drinking to excess can be fatal for teenagers. Never mind what can happen to them when they are completely blotto. I find it frightening. Having taken a variety of party drugs over the years, nothing scares me more than alcohol and its effects.

I have bleated on so much to my kids about the dangers of alcohol I just hope that some of it has sunk in.

Ecstasy just doesn’t worry me as much. Not that I’ve told them that! But at the end of the day, according to statistics, 500k-2m ecstasy pills are estimated to be consumed in the UK per week. 60-90 related deaths per year. Those are better odds than alcohol related deaths.

JudyGemstone · 21/04/2025 21:07

NotSafeInTaxis · 21/04/2025 20:57

Genius. "My husband says he's not in love with me anymore, I'm going to give him an illegal hallucinogenic anaesthetic with dissociative properties that can cause memory loss, nausea and depression. What could possibly go wrong?!"

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No one’s recommending ketamine for couples therapy. It has other benefits though. Seriously there’s plenty of evidence out there but just carry on being dismissive based on nothing but your own prejudices if you prefer

adviceneeded1990 · 21/04/2025 21:15

JudyGemstone · 21/04/2025 20:51

Obviously professionals don’t get drugs off the dark web - I was referring to recreational use, sorry that wasn’t clear

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Where do the professionals get them that ensures they are manufactured and supplied in a way that doesn’t exploit anyone? I’ve read a lot about therapeutic benefits and some of it make sense but the questions of the manufacture and supply would surely have to be answered so that people undergoing therapeutic treatment know they are doing so ethically?

Missey85 · 21/04/2025 21:18

How do drugs fix a marriage? They'd probably make it worse not better

Bethknee · 21/04/2025 21:18

I used to do Ecstasy when younger. Had some good nights out on that! Not sure it would change a long term relationship though. Maybe the person “not in love” is looking for a way out. Maybe they are already dabbling on the outside!

LuluDelulu · 21/04/2025 21:25

adviceneeded1990 · 21/04/2025 15:54

Isn’t that like saying the alcoholic died from chronic cirrhosis and not directly from alcohol so therefore alcohol is safe?

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No. It isn’t.

JudyGemstone · 21/04/2025 21:27

adviceneeded1990 · 21/04/2025 21:15

Where do the professionals get them that ensures they are manufactured and supplied in a way that doesn’t exploit anyone? I’ve read a lot about therapeutic benefits and some of it make sense but the questions of the manufacture and supply would surely have to be answered so that people undergoing therapeutic treatment know they are doing so ethically?

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From the same place hospitals get their drugs I guess, manufacturing laboratories

Bpickle1 · 21/04/2025 21:34

You might need some LSD or psilocybin instead, you’ll either fix your relationship or work out that it needs to end, either way you’ll have a solution. Be prepared for it to get highly emotional however

HelloVeraPlant · 21/04/2025 21:36

A friend of mine used it to open up. Only one of them took it whilst the other guided the conversation. Something along those lines. It seemed to help them. But that was a one off and they felt like they needed to unpick some things.

I believe it would have to be used in a controlled environment if it’s purpose is to help.

AquaPeer · 21/04/2025 22:17

adviceneeded1990 · 21/04/2025 21:15

Where do the professionals get them that ensures they are manufactured and supplied in a way that doesn’t exploit anyone? I’ve read a lot about therapeutic benefits and some of it make sense but the questions of the manufacture and supply would surely have to be answered so that people undergoing therapeutic treatment know they are doing so ethically?

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You know MDMA is made in a lab, don’t you?

you don’t need raw materials from questionable countries and supply chains, like coke or heroin.

adviceneeded1990 · 21/04/2025 22:27

AquaPeer · 21/04/2025 22:17

You know MDMA is made in a lab, don’t you?

you don’t need raw materials from questionable countries and supply chains, like coke or heroin.

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And the people who are taking it recreationally are buying it from these labs are they? Where it’s being legally and ethically made?

AquaPeer · 21/04/2025 22:28

adviceneeded1990 · 21/04/2025 22:27

And the people who are taking it recreationally are buying it from these labs are they? Where it’s being legally and ethically made?

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You asked where professionals got it from and how they ensured it wasn’t exploitative though

adviceneeded1990 · 21/04/2025 22:34

AquaPeer · 21/04/2025 22:28

You asked where professionals got it from and how they ensured it wasn’t exploitative though

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Yes someone already helpfully answered that question earlier. Your follow up comment that you don’t need to be part of a supply chain made it sound as though you think people are placing lab orders before taking it for fun. The fact of the matter is that the vast majority of illegal drugs taken in this country are being manufactured and supplied in a way that causes immense harm but no one wants to believe that their fun night out is part of the problem. I can understand that as a teenager or very young adult who can’t see past themselves but I’m amazed at how many people my own age and older on this thread who think it’s ok to be part of a chain that enslaves and exploits so many vulnerable people.

JudyGemstone · 21/04/2025 22:43

I don’t think even recreationally mdma has anything like the harmful impact of cocaine as it doesn’t rely on a plant that only grows in a certain location.
fwiw I can’t stand cocaine, it has zero therapeutic/healing qualities and just makes people tedious wankers. But don’t lump all substances in with it, they’re not all the same thing.

Gremlins101 · 21/04/2025 23:43

Give it a try with no expectations

ArtTheClown · 22/04/2025 07:36

Thing is, while MDMA can give you a sense of closeness, understanding, and empathy to someone, it can't create what isn't there - it can't give you in-love feelings that don't exist.

It might be useful to create a space to discuss the relationship issues with greater empathy for each other, but honestly in the world is going to resolve it if someone is no longer in love.

VoodooQualities · 22/04/2025 08:15

My husband and I use MDMA once a year or so and I can confirm it is the most relationship-affirming experience which leaves us both refreshed, deeply understanding of each other, and reminds us why we are together and in love. It's absolutely wonderful.

We have a solid relationship though, I'm not sure it'd make someone fall back in love with someone, if they have fallen out of love already.

VoodooQualities · 22/04/2025 18:09

CamberwellCarrot78 · 21/04/2025 18:00

What like you might give your over 18 year old child alcohol? (Or at least be ok with them drinking it?)

and please I’m NOT LAUGHING AT HER DEATH! my earlier comment was deleted but I was laughing at the fact of that case which happened as you rightly say 30 years ago, still being mentioned anytime ecstasy is talked about.

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Nice user name, both yours and mine uttered by the same shaggy haired provider of rare herbs and proscribed chemicals. Headhunter to his friends, headhunter to anyone really. @CamberwellCarrot78

Fuckfacetime · 23/04/2025 13:16

@JudyGemstone mdma through the post ?! Do tell me or hint more.

off to look at Reddit !