Has anyone ever used MDMA to fix a marriage?

[theaccidentalcandidate]

Background
Ex ravers, married 20 years together 30 years, adult kids at University. Not taken drugs for 25 years, hardly drink. One partner still in love, the other not. Get on fine, don't argue, etc, no other people involved.

I saw "Has anyone ever used MDMA to fix..." and got confused, thinking of something like MDF and presumed the OP was asking about DIY or crafts or something like that. I haven't a scooby about Ecstasy, never taken it. 🤷‍♀️

Can you please explain How MDMA would fix your marriage?

She'd have been highly unlikely to drink a lethal quantity of water in so short a space of time if she hadn't taken ecstasy, though.

No.
MDMA was prescribed as a marriage therapy back in the 1980s as it is an empathic.

Still doesn’t make it the ecstasy that killed her though.

We haven’t been together as long but are a similar age and this is exactly our experience! Sex is out of this world too…

Was actually recommended by a psychologist friend - as some posters have mentioned it’s been trialled in small doses in relationship counselling

That’s not true, surprisingly. My brother is a dr in a&e and has treated a few people who died from water intoxication and even more who were very poorly from it. Not drug related at all, just drank too much water

This is not the obvious answer. Do you have secret hankering for it and hope to dress it up as something?

The not in love partner is probably having an affair or thinking of having one

Not sure if it will sort your marriage…but a few people at my work (very professional setting) keep telling me about using Hallucinogenics with their partners and these people fit your profile.

They say the NHS is going to be rolling something out in the next few years and have been doing trials to support mental health etc.

I haven’t done MDMA since Uni… but it strips back the ego and makes you relax so give it a go OP! 🤣

Amazed by the hysterical responses to a pretty low-risk drug here. Alcohol is soooooo much more dangerous in every single way, and we treat using it to excess like it’s normal.

I sadly know quite a few people with lives ruined from drugs. None of them with MDMA, though.

Yes but only if you could find a therapist to guide you and have a dependable way to get actual mdma, not pills cut with nasty dangerous things.

Another ex-raver from the 90s here…I was very lucky that it did help me work through my extreme depression. I was on anti-depressants also so I never typically felt a high like others did, but while under the influence it did help me connect with my emotions, issues and experiences and somehow reframe them and make breakthroughs in seeing solutions or getting over things from the past. The breakthroughs then tended to stay with me afterwards and really helped me get through a very difficult period in my life. I always felt it was a great pity that prohibition shut down scientific research into the potential psychological and therapeutic uses for so many years.

I don’t kid myself that mine was in any way a typical experience and I would consider myself very lucky that it worked out well for me. Personally, I would not risk taking any recreational drugs nowadays and I would dread having to explain to my university-aged kids if something happened to one of their parents due to experimenting with taking street drugs now in our 50s.

I’m sure Leah’s poor Mum and Dad who lost their 18 year old would be delighted to read that you two find it funny that people mention her in threads like this.

Same for me in terms of close bonds formed, amazing memories and feeling free and happy while also in control still… ahh!
The come down for me was easier than a hangover, the trouble was combining the two.. always needed 2 days in bed after 😂

Having read the thread, it sounds like where MDMA has helped couples, it has been via the connection they experience, the opening up and sharing they do whilst using the drug.

How about starting off with things which bring you this connection in a natural way? Someone mentioned therapy - if you could open yourselves up via therapy, that could give you the same effect and have absolutely zero side effects.

Have you watched Couples Therapy on the iPlayer? It shows just how effective this can be for couples.

Or anything else that appeals to you both as a way of dropping the ego, finding the real loving connection between you both again.

Is there not a moral question about ‘drugging’ a person so that they can potentially fall back in love with someone?

I think it has to be well planned.

Wasn't it originally developed as a relationship therapy drug?

I am sure everyone is going to be consenting!

Do you take paracetamol? A single MDMA is no more risky. The kids that run into problems take far more at once. One kid told me they took “about 9” on a night out 😳

I know it can be effective with PTSD but that's with a qualified psychologist. Would the plan be to talk about how you can move forward and improve the relationship with MDMA or are you just looking for MDMA to spark the connection?
MDMA really helped me in the past with depression and making connections. I'd be very wary of taking it now in case it is cut with anything that changes the effect. I think shrooms can have a similar effect on some people and would likely be safer.

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Does anyone know if these trials exist and if its possible to get on one ? Although even if I could find a trial I suspect they wouldn't take us on it as we've used it before.

How could it help? Wouldn't it just be rehashing the fun of the past?

The other thing is you hear lots of horror stories these days about it being laced with all sorts but who’s to say they’re true.

I suppose if you’ve got a trusted supplier then there’s no harm in trying?

I’m amazed at the number of presumably intelligent middle aged people who don’t seem to give the drug supply chain any thought and refer to people who want no part of it as hysterical about recreational drugs. You aren’t picking up your MDMA in M&S, it’s coming to you via a long supply chain often involving serious and organised crime gangs involved in human trafficking, prostitution, forced labour, use of weapons and god knows what else. The drugs trade is believed to be responsible for up to 50% of all death by murder in England and Wales according to a 2023 study.

As long as the 50-something former raver has a good night though I guess it’s fine.