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Ruined my life for a man who turned out to be full of shit

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babs891 · 04/04/2025 18:01

In January of 24 I separated from my partner of 14 years. We have a DD (10) with complex health problems, cerebral palsy among other dx.

The split was amicable and we agreed there was no rush for either of us to move out, we get along well and share caring duties. We would put the house on the market in a years time.

In September I began seeing a man from work, albeit from a different department. I did tell XP after a few dates so he was aware. There was never any question of us getting back together. He was understanding and free to date himself.

So the colleague - It was quite intense, spending lots of time together, in contact all day every day. A bit too much perhaps, in hindsight.

After a couple of months he began saying he was struggling with the reality of me and XP sharing a house which is fair enough.

I spoke with XP and it was agreed he would start looking for somewhere 'now' rather than at the end of the year as planned.

Colleague started blowing hot and cold in the process, I didnt know where I stood from one minute to the other. He said he was depressed and it was because of my home situation. One minute he wanted to be with me now and the next he said he couldn't cope (but still kept contacting me daily, telling me he loved me and saying he was waiting for me so we could be together properly)

He said we could only be together once XP had moved out and he was applying pressure, constantly telling me it was impacting his mental health.

Fair enough though, I thought. It's not ideal circumstances and of course its going to be difficult for him.

I really felt like I'd fallen in love with him at this point. In hindsight I think I was love bombed.

I felt under pressure which had a knock on effect for XP so me and XP were no longer getting on.

Him moving out was expedited and he moved in somewhere crap and further away than planned, just to get it over and done with. Our previously positive co-parenting relationship broke down. I'm financially much worse off and doing the lions share of care on my own.

Colleague/bf was happy though. All going well with him, so I thought.

Until Sunday I was at his for a BBQ when he made a couple of comments that made me question where his mind was at. He said he liked us "just how we are"

So I initiated a "where is this heading then" conversation.. my jaw hit the floor when he said he didn't want to put a label on it. After months and months of future faking.

(Didn't want to commit and be exclusive basically - he lead me to believe we already were. I had met his family and friends. He'd met mine including DD)

I reminded him of all the things he'd said about us settling down together, living together in the future, he had mentioned marriage a good few times. I asked what on earth that was about.

He said that's just something he said at the time and joked that I'm like an elephant, I never forget things.

He's 42. I was not expecting any of this.

I left his place on Sunday feeling like I'd just had the rug pulled from under my feet. The last thing I said to him was that we might aswell leave it at that then, and I left upset.

I've been in bits ever since, barely sleeping, hardly eating. I've completely destabilised mine and DD's lives for nothing. I feel such a fool.

I saw him at work today for the first time since last week and my emotions got the better of me. He came over and I told him he was manipulative, he had strung me along for months and to move out of my way. A couple of other colleagues were around so I expect he's embarrassed.

He text me shortly after saying I had made it very awkward and he doesn't know what that was all about(?!) but yes he is calling it a day as he doesn't want "these issues" with me.

I've burst out crying infront of my line manager who took me aside when she noticed I wasn't myself. She was utterly lovely about it but I'm so embarrassed.

He doesn't see that he has done anything wrong.

Have I been completely gaslighted here or am I just a fucking moron myself?

I actually feel sick 😔

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BlondiePortz · 05/04/2025 10:15

spicemaiden · 05/04/2025 09:58

He gaslighted her.

He didn’t say ‘look I said all these things but that was before I realised that there were aspects to you that had previously been concealed’

He wasn’t decent. It wasn’t about cracks. He told her outright that she’d imagined it all.

Abusive cunts do that.

Hw should not have been anywhere near her child that is on the op, when are women going to be responsible for the choices they make it seems more and more women's brains are excused away 'she doesn't know her own mind, men force women to think a certain way' no! women need to think more not less and stop leave their thinking to men

Snoopdoggydog123 · 05/04/2025 10:18

I don't see why he's getting such a hard time.
Of course any partner would want you to not live with your Ex.
We have pages and pages of these posts from women with men who live with their Exs. He did exactly as their told to do.

The fact that he probably saw a lot of the substation in a different light is no suprise

No sane person would watch all that and think that's where I want to be.

This is 100% on you.

babs891 · 05/04/2025 10:19

Annascaul · 05/04/2025 10:06

Op put her want for a man in her life above the welfare of her child with sn? To the point of introducing this guy within weeks of knowing him (the relationship only lasted six months in total) and changing the child’s living arrangements on the guy’s say so.
You don’t see any issue with this?

Huh?

He met DD at 6 months! Not a few weeks.

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Pleasealexa · 05/04/2025 10:20

spicemaiden they were together 6 months, which is no time at all. Anyone talking of a serious relationship at that stage has to be aware that feelings can change. Had they been together a couple of years then he would have "owed" her more truth but not after such a short timeframe.

I think they both got carried away but he realised his heart wasn't in it and perhaps he hasn't handled it great but he is entitled to feel differently and end the relationship. Could he has ended the relationship without upset? I doubt it as the Op had fallen hard and SHE had made the decision to move her ex partner out, which is what she deeply regrets.

He might be an abusive twat but after 6months, not living together and no commitment he can end the relationship.

babs891 · 05/04/2025 10:22

Snoopdoggydog123 · 05/04/2025 10:18

I don't see why he's getting such a hard time.
Of course any partner would want you to not live with your Ex.
We have pages and pages of these posts from women with men who live with their Exs. He did exactly as their told to do.

The fact that he probably saw a lot of the substation in a different light is no suprise

No sane person would watch all that and think that's where I want to be.

This is 100% on you.

Watch all of what exactly?

He knew I had a disabled child if that's what you're implying. I was completely transparent about my life and circumstances.

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spicemaiden · 05/04/2025 10:25

OP I really do t yhink you have ruined your life.

you gave your space abc your peace. You no longer have to live with a man who cheated on you. And you’ve fortunately realised who this man is before he moved in.

This is a fresh start.

If ex isn’t paying child maintenance get that sorted, work out a contact schedule with him.

Start afresh.

stampin · 05/04/2025 10:27

Sounds like he changed about the same time as he met your child.

Do you think reality kicked in?

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spicemaiden · 05/04/2025 10:28

BlondiePortz · 05/04/2025 10:15

Hw should not have been anywhere near her child that is on the op, when are women going to be responsible for the choices they make it seems more and more women's brains are excused away 'she doesn't know her own mind, men force women to think a certain way' no! women need to think more not less and stop leave their thinking to men

So trust nothing a man says?

I mean I’m with you - I’ve never met a man who isn’t a liar.

But that’s not realistic us it? Nor true - there are plenty of truthful honest men out there (so I’m told) - why blame women for men’s lies and dishonesty and ability to cover it up?

babs891 · 05/04/2025 10:29

stampin · 05/04/2025 10:27

Sounds like he changed about the same time as he met your child.

Do you think reality kicked in?

Possibly 😔

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stampin · 05/04/2025 10:32

That's sad OP.

TwistedWonder · 05/04/2025 10:36

Yes I agree there was haste in this case but you never hear people saying this about a man

Really?? Because I’ve seen hundreds of comments criticising men who have moved on very quickly barely letting the bed get gold before they’ve moved onto someone else.

Its far more common for men to jump from one relationship to the next without pausing for breath and they quite rightly get slated for it it’s nothing to do with the sex of the person. It’s the behaviour

The OP has made mistakes and she’s owning that - many people find their first post divorce relationship involves rose tinted specs that blind us to the glaring red flags and had we been further on in our healing, we wouldn’t have touched that person with a 10 foot pole.

Humans fuck up - it’s about taking accountability for our mistakes and learning from them.

babs891 · 05/04/2025 10:36

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Lol you're so rude, you sound like a right arse.

He didn't leave.

He wanted to continue seeing me without "putting a label on it"

He wanted me without commitment/exclusivity.

I said I'm not prepared to accept that as that is not what I was lead to believe we were. I told him, whilst leaving myself that we may aswell leave it at that.

I don't do casual, I'm not cut out for it, and certainly wouldn't want it with him now.

He then tried to approach me at work and I told him to go away.

Only then, after me walking away from him (for the second time I might add) did he text me saying he was out.

I truly believe If I'd have been receptive at work he'd have gladly carried on sleeping with me and seeing me for however long he was able to, whilst doing whatever else on the side because "we aren't exclusive"

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Snoopdoggydog123 · 05/04/2025 10:37

TwistedWonder · 05/04/2025 10:36

Yes I agree there was haste in this case but you never hear people saying this about a man

Really?? Because I’ve seen hundreds of comments criticising men who have moved on very quickly barely letting the bed get gold before they’ve moved onto someone else.

Its far more common for men to jump from one relationship to the next without pausing for breath and they quite rightly get slated for it it’s nothing to do with the sex of the person. It’s the behaviour

The OP has made mistakes and she’s owning that - many people find their first post divorce relationship involves rose tinted specs that blind us to the glaring red flags and had we been further on in our healing, we wouldn’t have touched that person with a 10 foot pole.

Humans fuck up - it’s about taking accountability for our mistakes and learning from them.

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Exactly. If anything they'd be saying the partner who moved on so quickly then there must've been an overlap.

Snoopdoggydog123 · 05/04/2025 10:39

babs891 · 05/04/2025 10:36

Lol you're so rude, you sound like a right arse.

He didn't leave.

He wanted to continue seeing me without "putting a label on it"

He wanted me without commitment/exclusivity.

I said I'm not prepared to accept that as that is not what I was lead to believe we were. I told him, whilst leaving myself that we may aswell leave it at that.

I don't do casual, I'm not cut out for it, and certainly wouldn't want it with him now.

He then tried to approach me at work and I told him to go away.

Only then, after me walking away from him (for the second time I might add) did he text me saying he was out.

I truly believe If I'd have been receptive at work he'd have gladly carried on sleeping with me and seeing me for however long he was able to, whilst doing whatever else on the side because "we aren't exclusive"

Edited

Even better. He communicated his needs.

A perfect thought after only 6 months, given the ability to form an actual relationship which you couldn't do before.

Well there you go a good lesson for you in the future.

Yea....because that worked for him.

And I've not been rude. I'm just not giving you eclxactly what you want.

spicemaiden · 05/04/2025 10:40

Snoopdoggydog123 · 05/04/2025 10:39

Even better. He communicated his needs.

A perfect thought after only 6 months, given the ability to form an actual relationship which you couldn't do before.

Well there you go a good lesson for you in the future.

Yea....because that worked for him.

And I've not been rude. I'm just not giving you eclxactly what you want.

Oh do fuck off dear.

babs891 · 05/04/2025 10:42

spicemaiden · 05/04/2025 10:40

Oh do fuck off dear.

My thoughts exactly 😂

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crazzynut · 04/04/2025 20:56

To be fair there is a point in it she cant blame just him she was part of it too.

Well she knows that and says it repeatedly to all the posts having a go at her.

Perhaps time to lay off. We’ve all made mistakes.

babs891 · 05/04/2025 10:48

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Get back under your bridge mate.

Nobody has fucked off from me.

People have behaved in a way that doesn't align with what I want and I made decisions accordingly.

I ended the relationship with XP, and walked away from this one.

As poor as my judgement has been I'm giving myself a pat on the back this morning for standing firm and choosing to walk away from this bloke as opposed to accepting less than i needed in order to keep him around.

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Snoopdoggydog123 · 05/04/2025 10:50

babs891 · 05/04/2025 10:48

Get back under your bridge mate.

Nobody has fucked off from me.

People have behaved in a way that doesn't align with what I want and I made decisions accordingly.

I ended the relationship with XP, and walked away from this one.

As poor as my judgement has been I'm giving myself a pat on the back this morning for standing firm and choosing to walk away from this bloke as opposed to accepting less than i needed in order to keep him around.

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But that's the point.
It is really that simple.
Two people didn't unify in what they wanted in a relationship. So separated.

He isn't in any way a villian in that.

And your drama is probably why he dropped a gear.

babs891 · 05/04/2025 10:52

Snoopdoggydog123 · 05/04/2025 10:50

But that's the point.
It is really that simple.
Two people didn't unify in what they wanted in a relationship. So separated.

He isn't in any way a villian in that.

And your drama is probably why he dropped a gear.

Thanks for your enlightening input, life changing. Have the day you deserve 🙂

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Grow up while you’re at it 😂

SCWS · 05/04/2025 11:04

@babs891 you’ve done the right thing to not give into this guy wanting to still see you. So many women would just put up with it for what little they can get hoping he will change his mind.

Someone better for you is out there. They’re harder to find when you’ve been hurt.

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