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Ex wont leave, is making my life miserable and child protection services involved

112 replies

EspressoMartini33 · 31/03/2025 12:54

Four months ago I asked my partner of 15 years to separate. We have two young children and a mortgage.
Throughout month one, he wouldnt engage in any conversation with me about separating. He shut me down or became extremely verbally abusive towards me.
I started to communicate with him (about the separation) via email. I detailed that I wanted it to be amicable, that I wanted to co-parent, but ultimately the relationship was over and we needed to sort the house. I offered to buy him out of the house.
Side note: I have been financially supporting with all outgoings for our family for a year - mortgage, food, childcare, fuel, clothes, holidays, phone bills, gym memberships - everything.
I decided in February to stop supporting his personal finances; car, gym, phone.
He turned even more emotionally abusive - including telling my children that he wanted me to 'burn in hell' and that I am breaking up the family and destroying their lives. He's even told them that when I tell them I love them, I dont mean it.
I have a lot of this recorded.
I told the school.
The school called Child Protection Services (CPS).
Since then, my children are on a Child Protection Plan as they at risk of emotional abuse. The CPS say whilst we continue to live together our children are at risk.
His family live in a big house, 30 mins away. My family live 2 hours away.
I ask him to talk about the children, given the situation, he turns abusive again, telling me that he wont allow me to buy him out of the house (that I pay for) and he will only consider selling 'when he is ready' and that he will only do this option as he wants me to suffer and see the pain in the childrens eyes when we all leave our family home.
CPS at one point saw him for the type of man he is, however in our latest conference, they stated we are both 'decent human beings' that just need to sit and sort this out.
In the meantime I have spent £5k on legal advice. My solicitor was mid writing a letter to him asking him to think about house options, then once the CPS were involved they told me to change tact and apply for an urgent occupation order (OO) Which I did. What my solicitor didnt advise is that OO's are incredibly hard to get granted.
They told me I must do it to demonstrate to the CPS that I am doing everything in my power to protect my children. I told the CPS, but they didnt seem too phased or supportive of this.
My solicitor has billed me for the letter than never reached my ex and are now telling me I must continue pushing the courts for the OO.

I don't know what to do....

I am still paying for this man. He is making mine and the children's lives a misery. He plays up to the CPS, then when we get home he's horrible to me again.

I am hoping someone has been through this kind of thing before and can help me.

Am I months away from freedom? Is there anything else I should be doing?

I feel like I am being held hostage in my own life.

OP posts:
ToKittyornottoKitty · 31/03/2025 12:56

Why can’t you move out and take the kids with you? I get it’s their family home but being under a child protection order trumps that.

FortyElephants · 31/03/2025 12:57

ToKittyornottoKitty · 31/03/2025 12:56

Why can’t you move out and take the kids with you? I get it’s their family home but being under a child protection order trumps that.

There is no child protection order, it's a plan, and no, they shouldn't move out.

FortyElephants · 31/03/2025 12:58

Did you apply for the occupation order?
Have you ever reported his abuse to the police? Do childrens services support you applying for the occupation order?

Just as an aside CPS is American. We have children's services.

Gogglebox189975 · 31/03/2025 12:58

What about hidden cameras or similar recording device? What about his responsibility to keep his children safe from
harm?! Fucking hell!!!

MuddyPawsIndoors · 31/03/2025 12:58

I would've moved out and taken the kids with me rather than see them put through that.

ToKittyornottoKitty · 31/03/2025 13:02

FortyElephants · 31/03/2025 12:57

There is no child protection order, it's a plan, and no, they shouldn't move out.

Why shouldn’t they move out? Her kids are being emotionally abused with no end in sight, somethings are more important than the family home.

GreenCandleWax · 31/03/2025 13:09

Is the house in both names, OP? If not, its yours. Can you kick him out?

FortyElephants · 31/03/2025 13:10

GreenCandleWax · 31/03/2025 13:09

Is the house in both names, OP? If not, its yours. Can you kick him out?

She has referred to having to buy him out and being advised by a solicitor to apply for an occupation order so it must be jointly owned.

RB68 · 31/03/2025 13:12

You need legal advice, if he is refusing to move out and is a danger to you and your kids cps are going at some point say you have to leave or they will remove the children and you need to act before it gets to that point and get an exclusion order on him via solicitors and court.

SOlicitors will tell you all you need to know to sort but critical is getting him excluded from the property even if he has a financial interest in it. If you are not married it might help in this situation but a solicitor is the best advice here

RB68 · 31/03/2025 13:12

You need legal advice, if he is refusing to move out and is a danger to you and your kids cps are going at some point say you have to leave or they will remove the children and you need to act before it gets to that point and get an exclusion order on him via solicitors and court.

SOlicitors will tell you all you need to know to sort but critical is getting him excluded from the property even if he has a financial interest in it. If you are not married it might help in this situation but a solicitor is the best advice here

EspressoMartini33 · 31/03/2025 13:13

I have nowhere to go..... my parents live 2 hours away. His parents live 30 mins away. I am paying for the house, he is paying nothing.
I totally understand the point about the children - but where do I go?

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EspressoMartini33 · 31/03/2025 13:13

CPS is in the UK, its social services, but called Child Protection Services

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EspressoMartini33 · 31/03/2025 13:15

Yes I have reported to the police twice. In the meeting with Child Protection Services, their response was - yes your children are at risk, you both havent been known to the police since before this started, we wish you luck in resolving it.....

OP posts:
EspressoMartini33 · 31/03/2025 13:18

ToKittyornottoKitty · 31/03/2025 13:02

Why shouldn’t they move out? Her kids are being emotionally abused with no end in sight, somethings are more important than the family home.

I have nowhere to go.... and I am paying for the house.

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Crazyhousewife23 · 31/03/2025 13:19

Take the kids and go. I would shut off the electric and gas and bills that are all in your name and temporarily go to your parents house to get some space. Once he has to pay for things he will leave. It’s emotionally abuse. Once you take the upper hand he will leave on his own accord, this is just controlling behaviour. Also I would be applying to the court for full custody and record some of these conversations to prove he needs to be on supervised contact because his behaviour seems erratic. I would be very careful leaving your children unsupervised with him.

EspressoMartini33 · 31/03/2025 13:19

RB68 · 31/03/2025 13:12

You need legal advice, if he is refusing to move out and is a danger to you and your kids cps are going at some point say you have to leave or they will remove the children and you need to act before it gets to that point and get an exclusion order on him via solicitors and court.

SOlicitors will tell you all you need to know to sort but critical is getting him excluded from the property even if he has a financial interest in it. If you are not married it might help in this situation but a solicitor is the best advice here

solicitors are taking my money and not massively guiding me, they are more reacting to my ex partners behaviour or the CPS

OP posts:
EspressoMartini33 · 31/03/2025 13:20

Crazyhousewife23 · 31/03/2025 13:19

Take the kids and go. I would shut off the electric and gas and bills that are all in your name and temporarily go to your parents house to get some space. Once he has to pay for things he will leave. It’s emotionally abuse. Once you take the upper hand he will leave on his own accord, this is just controlling behaviour. Also I would be applying to the court for full custody and record some of these conversations to prove he needs to be on supervised contact because his behaviour seems erratic. I would be very careful leaving your children unsupervised with him.

thank you - would you do this even if it meant the children not being able to go to school/ nursery? My parents live 2 hours away from me.

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EspressoMartini33 · 31/03/2025 13:22

Crazyhousewife23 · 31/03/2025 13:19

Take the kids and go. I would shut off the electric and gas and bills that are all in your name and temporarily go to your parents house to get some space. Once he has to pay for things he will leave. It’s emotionally abuse. Once you take the upper hand he will leave on his own accord, this is just controlling behaviour. Also I would be applying to the court for full custody and record some of these conversations to prove he needs to be on supervised contact because his behaviour seems erratic. I would be very careful leaving your children unsupervised with him.

he won't ever leave the house. The mortgage will still be being paid - he will gladly live there with no gas, electric etc..... even if I took a mortgage holiday, it still doesnt meant that he would need to leave.

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Hollietree · 31/03/2025 13:23

Do you have any friend nearby with a spare bedroom? I would give up my spare bedroom in a heartbeat for a friend in your situation.

Do you have a good relationship with his parents. Could you speak to them and see if they can make him see sense, get him to stay with them? Or if not could you take the kids and go stay at his parents house?? Just trying to think outside the box.

Have you spoken to Women’s Aid? Also make an appointment with your GP to discuss the anxiety his emotional abuse is causing you. You need his abuse documented with everyone you can, you may need evidence in court at a later date.

EspressoMartini33 · 31/03/2025 13:23

ToKittyornottoKitty · 31/03/2025 13:02

Why shouldn’t they move out? Her kids are being emotionally abused with no end in sight, somethings are more important than the family home.

I agree, but I have nowhere to go.....

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BigCarMistake · 31/03/2025 13:23

What’s happening with your Occupation Order? Do you have a hearing date?

I’d be prépared to have a temporary order, to allow a period of time for you to sell, release equity and move. Unless he’s very wealthy, I can’t see it being realistic for you to expect to stay in the home unless you can buy him out.

gamerchick · 31/03/2025 13:24

You need to find another solicitor by the sounds of it.

if you shut everything off and can afford to buy him out you should be able to afford a rental. Get the house sold..he won't stay there if he has to pay for anything.

I'd definitely get another solicitor though, not all of them are good ones.

Springsnowdrops · 31/03/2025 13:25

Stop paying everything
Speak to the bank tell them you are moving out to your parents and your not paying the mortgage,ask for a break on it
Cut of the WiFi ,phone gas electricity water .
Pay all bills up to the date you leave
Then go to your mum's
He's not going to stay there with no electricity or water and the bills need to be in husband blame for him to access it .
Hopefully he will leave
Or he might trash the place
But definitely go to your parents,I'd only not do this if the kids were in the middle of A levels

EspressoMartini33 · 31/03/2025 13:25

Hollietree · 31/03/2025 13:23

Do you have any friend nearby with a spare bedroom? I would give up my spare bedroom in a heartbeat for a friend in your situation.

Do you have a good relationship with his parents. Could you speak to them and see if they can make him see sense, get him to stay with them? Or if not could you take the kids and go stay at his parents house?? Just trying to think outside the box.

Have you spoken to Women’s Aid? Also make an appointment with your GP to discuss the anxiety his emotional abuse is causing you. You need his abuse documented with everyone you can, you may need evidence in court at a later date.

thank you.

His dad used to be on my side as he understood his behaviour. He has now completely switched on me. he is telling him to try and get me the sack from my job, trying to paint a picture that I am mentally unstable and telling his son under no circumstances to leave the house.... Yes, my GP knows. I am also getting support from Victim Support. Charities for Domestic Abuse victims are extremely difficult to speak to - last time I tried I was 23rd in the queue

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ARichtGoodDram · 31/03/2025 13:26

Please speak to women's aid

You need specialist advice about dealing with an abusive man and it sounds like he is both verbally and financially abusive