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Ex wont leave, is making my life miserable and child protection services involved

112 replies

EspressoMartini33 · 31/03/2025 12:54

Four months ago I asked my partner of 15 years to separate. We have two young children and a mortgage.
Throughout month one, he wouldnt engage in any conversation with me about separating. He shut me down or became extremely verbally abusive towards me.
I started to communicate with him (about the separation) via email. I detailed that I wanted it to be amicable, that I wanted to co-parent, but ultimately the relationship was over and we needed to sort the house. I offered to buy him out of the house.
Side note: I have been financially supporting with all outgoings for our family for a year - mortgage, food, childcare, fuel, clothes, holidays, phone bills, gym memberships - everything.
I decided in February to stop supporting his personal finances; car, gym, phone.
He turned even more emotionally abusive - including telling my children that he wanted me to 'burn in hell' and that I am breaking up the family and destroying their lives. He's even told them that when I tell them I love them, I dont mean it.
I have a lot of this recorded.
I told the school.
The school called Child Protection Services (CPS).
Since then, my children are on a Child Protection Plan as they at risk of emotional abuse. The CPS say whilst we continue to live together our children are at risk.
His family live in a big house, 30 mins away. My family live 2 hours away.
I ask him to talk about the children, given the situation, he turns abusive again, telling me that he wont allow me to buy him out of the house (that I pay for) and he will only consider selling 'when he is ready' and that he will only do this option as he wants me to suffer and see the pain in the childrens eyes when we all leave our family home.
CPS at one point saw him for the type of man he is, however in our latest conference, they stated we are both 'decent human beings' that just need to sit and sort this out.
In the meantime I have spent £5k on legal advice. My solicitor was mid writing a letter to him asking him to think about house options, then once the CPS were involved they told me to change tact and apply for an urgent occupation order (OO) Which I did. What my solicitor didnt advise is that OO's are incredibly hard to get granted.
They told me I must do it to demonstrate to the CPS that I am doing everything in my power to protect my children. I told the CPS, but they didnt seem too phased or supportive of this.
My solicitor has billed me for the letter than never reached my ex and are now telling me I must continue pushing the courts for the OO.

I don't know what to do....

I am still paying for this man. He is making mine and the children's lives a misery. He plays up to the CPS, then when we get home he's horrible to me again.

I am hoping someone has been through this kind of thing before and can help me.

Am I months away from freedom? Is there anything else I should be doing?

I feel like I am being held hostage in my own life.

OP posts:
gamerchick · 31/03/2025 13:28

It's only because his parents don't want to be lumbered with him OP. My ex's mother was the same. Tried to force me to back down so she didn't have to put up with him.

EspressoMartini33 · 31/03/2025 13:28

BigCarMistake · 31/03/2025 13:23

What’s happening with your Occupation Order? Do you have a hearing date?

I’d be prépared to have a temporary order, to allow a period of time for you to sell, release equity and move. Unless he’s very wealthy, I can’t see it being realistic for you to expect to stay in the home unless you can buy him out.

no - my solicitor has told me that the next step for the occupation order is to either request a 'without notice' which will cost me £2k if I want my solicitor there. And then it may not be approved, which means my ex will then be given notice on what I am trying to do and a hearing will be in 1-4 weeks. Which will cost me another £2k and will give him the opportunity to prepare an argument to show me as a terrible human being and bad mother. He will also make me life even more miserable. I am terrified of what picture he will try to paint of me. he has threatened that he will make it so we both lose the kids.

OP posts:
EspressoMartini33 · 31/03/2025 13:28

gamerchick · 31/03/2025 13:28

It's only because his parents don't want to be lumbered with him OP. My ex's mother was the same. Tried to force me to back down so she didn't have to put up with him.

that is 100% what is happening

OP posts:
SquishyGloopyBum · 31/03/2025 13:31

I can see why you are staying op.

can you contact women’s aid and see if they can help? And other DV charities?

I would press on with the occupation order too.

FortyElephants · 31/03/2025 13:53

EspressoMartini33 · 31/03/2025 13:13

CPS is in the UK, its social services, but called Child Protection Services

It's not, it's children's services or children's social care, but it's not really that important. Children's services cover child in need, looked after children and often early help as well as child protection.

BigCarMistake · 31/03/2025 13:57

Your solicitor sounds terrible. I can understand they’re trying to make you aware of the costs and emphasise the benefits of resolving this amicably but from what you’ve written here, I can’t see much opportunity of this happening.

It makes sense that they’re recommending a without notice application first, on the off chance that if deemed sufficiently serious, you don’t need to give him sufficient notice. I’d start shifting your perspective re the legal costs. They’re necessary to make sure you get out of this situation. The advice to leave, I wouldn’t countenance unless you’re at risk of losing the children. He could really draw this out if left in the house.

If you have Employee Assistance at work, a counsellor would really help you to start emotionally detaching from his behaviour. Of course he’s going to behave badly, and suggest to the court that you’re an awful parent, you just need to be able to rise above it.

lovestorms · 31/03/2025 14:19

EspressoMartini33 · 31/03/2025 13:13

I have nowhere to go..... my parents live 2 hours away. His parents live 30 mins away. I am paying for the house, he is paying nothing.
I totally understand the point about the children - but where do I go?

Make the trip to your parents home or call womens aid.

Hollietree · 31/03/2025 14:31

Can you afford an airbnb / serviced apartment for a month or two? Just to get you all away from him asap.

EvelynBeatrice · 31/03/2025 14:36

An acquaintance in a similar situation asked two of her relatives to move in to the house with her for a month. Her abusive husband was a pathetic little bully and it ended his abuse immediately as he didn’t want to be seen as the bad guy. He moved out.

Any relative or friend that could move in or even an acquaintance that would be prepared to be a lodger for a short period?

Richandstrange · 31/03/2025 14:37

Have you tried your local DV services rather than the nationwide Women's Aid helpline OP, they can sometimes be a little easier to get through to ime. Demand is sadly very high for WA so you do have to be persistent and try all avenues for an initial response, have you tried emailing rather than calling? I know it's hard to find the energy when he's sapping everything you have but specialist support is worth its weight in gold and I'm not sure your solicitor is giving you good advice. The link a PP posted for Rights of Women is worth a try too, again I know demand is high for their services but they really know their stuff and specialise in situations like yours.

Nanny0gg · 31/03/2025 14:38

gamerchick · 31/03/2025 13:24

You need to find another solicitor by the sounds of it.

if you shut everything off and can afford to buy him out you should be able to afford a rental. Get the house sold..he won't stay there if he has to pay for anything.

I'd definitely get another solicitor though, not all of them are good ones.

How does she afford a rental and a mortgage?

She can't default

RB68 · 31/03/2025 14:51

Re solicitors not working out for you currently - change them now if you can, its really important to have good comms and understanding for the long haul - if they are not working now they won't be in 2 yrs either

FortyElephants · 31/03/2025 14:57

To be fair to her solicitor I can't see where they have given wrong advice.

Endofyear · 31/03/2025 14:58

Unfortunately, you can't force him to allow you to buy him out of the house. I would push for a sale of the property and each take your share and leave. Occupation Orders are difficult to obtain and your solicitor doesn't sound up to much. I would look at advice from a specialist such as those recommended by previous posters.

Crazyhousewife23 · 31/03/2025 16:43

EspressoMartini33 · 31/03/2025 13:22

he won't ever leave the house. The mortgage will still be being paid - he will gladly live there with no gas, electric etc..... even if I took a mortgage holiday, it still doesnt meant that he would need to leave.

I understand your parents house is 2 hours away but even just threatening to leave and only going for the weekend might push him out. I think once he is by himself he will leave. It’s true what they say misery loves company. Leave him in his own misery for the weekend: it sounds like father like son. His dad telling him to get you sacked is so that you become reliant on his son and won’t leave, it also means that he has more control to make you miserable. Contact women’s aid and push to get out, if you feel you aren’t getting anywhere go your mp and see if they can offer any advice in terms of a good solicitor or where you are with legal advice or what the police and social services should be doing to help.

Crazyhousewife23 · 31/03/2025 16:46

Can you actually sell the house rather than buy him out. I would look for a temporary rental and put a pause on your mortgage. Explain the situation to the bank, they may have advice in these situations as they probably do come across this. I’m sorry you are going through this but he isn’t going to reason he is hell bent on you losing everything and the fact he is still going with cps involved shows he doesn’t even care you could lose your children.

Omgblueskys · 31/03/2025 16:53

Get the house on the market take a mortgage holiday think it's 3 months go rent a airbub for you and children, with what would of been mortgage payments,

Youagain2025 · 31/03/2025 16:55

EspressoMartini33 · 31/03/2025 13:23

I agree, but I have nowhere to go.....

You can ask for temporary accommodation via the council under domestic violence. Or a refuge . You can then fight for the house from the temporary accommodation.

FortyElephants · 31/03/2025 17:04

Youagain2025 · 31/03/2025 16:55

You can ask for temporary accommodation via the council under domestic violence. Or a refuge . You can then fight for the house from the temporary accommodation.

This isn't going to be a solution to the problem. She won't be able to get emergency accommodation in the area she lives, she'd have to apply to another local authority area. Emergency accommodation isn't free either - she'd have to pay rent plus mortgage. She could also be moved from pillar to post, causing even more disruption to the children. And a refuge would be exponentially worse, and either way she would still have to deal with selling the house, which he would be more likely to block with his feet under the table.

Mooselooseinmyhoose · 31/03/2025 17:08

Were you married or not?

If you are married, you need to initiate divorce proceedings and seek a financial order this can force sale of the home without his consent.

If you weren't married, you need to file a civil TOLATA claim to force sale of the property.

In the meantime seek advice from women's aid.

Youagain2025 · 31/03/2025 17:09

FortyElephants · 31/03/2025 17:04

This isn't going to be a solution to the problem. She won't be able to get emergency accommodation in the area she lives, she'd have to apply to another local authority area. Emergency accommodation isn't free either - she'd have to pay rent plus mortgage. She could also be moved from pillar to post, causing even more disruption to the children. And a refuge would be exponentially worse, and either way she would still have to deal with selling the house, which he would be more likely to block with his feet under the table.

That's not true she can get emgency accommodation /refuge in the same borough. My daughter did it

I'm not 100 % on the financial side of it thought. There may be help to people fleeing DV slmone above said mortgage break .

Youagain2025 · 31/03/2025 17:12

https://www.nationaldahelpline.org.uk/legal-help/

There is some information here that tells you about occupation orders , induction, civil legal etc .

Also for if you want to stay in the house. But also if you wanted to go into refuge/temporary accommodation locally

Legal Help - National Domestic Abuse Helpline

Domestic abuse is against the law. You can report your abuser to the police. You can also use the ‘civil’ law to protect yourself.

https://www.nationaldahelpline.org.uk/legal-help

GoAwayNow7 · 31/03/2025 17:13

EvelynBeatrice · 31/03/2025 14:36

An acquaintance in a similar situation asked two of her relatives to move in to the house with her for a month. Her abusive husband was a pathetic little bully and it ended his abuse immediately as he didn’t want to be seen as the bad guy. He moved out.

Any relative or friend that could move in or even an acquaintance that would be prepared to be a lodger for a short period?

Excellent idea.

Ohnobackagain · 31/03/2025 17:14

@EspressoMartini33 do you have any friends who could move in with you for a few weeks? It might pave the way for your ‘partner’ to leave. Not the usual approach but it seems like he just won’t go otherwise. Doesn’t have to be the same friend but if someone else is there then maybe he will give in eventually. Especially if you can have some sort of a conversation around what he will get if you buy him out …