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I need a good rant - advice also helpful!

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Sunflowers67 · 12/03/2025 12:21

So, we have been together about 15 years now - living together for 14 of those.
I always knew he was a little 'quirky' but I suppose with family, friends, busy career, I was able to handle it better.
Now, we are both semi retired, my dad passed away so my mum lives with us (not easy, but what else can an only child do), the kids have left home and his 'quirky' little ways are far more noticeable, annoying and darn right hurtful at times.
We are also due to get married in two weeks and I don't think I'm gonna do it. It wont bother him if we don't, he'll just shrug his shoulders and carry on as usual. He wont leave our home or threaten to end the relationship - he never does. Sometimes I wish there would be a huge display of emotion and anger and then we can both just shout at each other, get it out of our systems and then communicate and repair. But he doesn't communicate, he never sees a problem and I am increasingly becoming immune and unfeeling towards him - I suppose its a form of self protection.
We have separate bedrooms, seperate interests and I would say we have lived together like two mates for years - except I don't treat my mates like this.

So, what does he do that is so bad? he doesn't drink much, he is not a cheat, he is not secretive, he would help anyone (except me), he tolerates my mother living with us, he gets on well with my grown up kids (he chooses not to see his family).
He has no emotions, he cannot 'read a room', he doesnt know when I am sad or worried or down as he cannot recognise body language or facial expressions. I have felt for quite some time that he is maybe autistic (his son is, which is why he chooses not to see him - he cant handle the skewed thoughts and strange behaviours from him and never did when he was a small child - the boy was raised by his alcoholic mother, we tried for custody but because we didn't get it, my other half then decided to not see the boy).
Not my style of parenting, but it was his choice.
Now, as we are getting on in years and my health has taken a down turn, I need his support and understanding more. And it isn't there. But then it never was.
I spend my days doing my own thing around the large property that we have - if we try and do something together, gardening, cleaning, maintenance, he just gets frustrated that I'm not doing it his way! So we work separately.
Many a time I have tried to talk to him and he takes it so personally, gets angry, wants very specific examples of how his behaviour has hurt me - and even if I do remember specifics, he then disputes it and turns it all around so as its me with the problem.
Then I am the one more upset, the one staying in my room wondering how my life amounted to this? And what dooes he do whilst I'm upset? He is carrying on as normal, in his own little world. He'll put some music on, he will sing and whistle and be merry. I suppose in his mind, this is me being me - moody, upset and I will snap out of it in a few days. Which I do. The hurt dissipates a little so I carry on functioning normally again - I will talk to him, I will get busy and then round we go again. Same old same old.
I have given up trying to talk to him, I know it does no good. I have tried to get us into some counselling but no where near me does 'couples counselling' - he is willing to go if I find somewhere. He is probably hoping that a counsellor will point out 'the error of my ways'.
I think what bothers me the most is the fact that it doesn't bother him that we are like this - that he is not upset, he doesn't try to talk to me about us, there is just nothing there with him.
I am upstairs now, typing this, and I can hear him downstairs singing away, happy and joyful. I feel like I want to go downstairs and hit him with the large skillet and scream 'feel that buster?!' - I wont, I'm not a violent person. But god does he bring out the worst in me.

Going our separate ways is probably the best option but its quite a scary thought to go it alone after 15 years - and then splitting all the assets, looking after mother, tending to this large place/or even having to sell it and split the proceeds, lawyers. He also would not leave the home so we would be living in more hell until everything was finalised and I am the only one that feels the pain of that.

I suppose I really want us/him to change. And I'm old enough to know that wont happen - been there/divorced that many years ago.

Thank you for letting me offload.

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Sunflowers67 · 17/04/2025 15:16

Just heard him on the phone (I wasn't listening - he was LOUD) - organising for some mates to stay this weekend 😬 - his mates are drinkers and gamblers like him and I am now imagining my home/peace/calm being shattered all weekend with their drunken behaviour and late nights.
I cant leave or I would take my dog and go for the weekend, although it would be super expensive for Easter weekend - my mum is in the annexe quite poorly at the moment as well so I'm tending to her on an hourly basis with drinks, food, bed changes, medications etc.
Obviously he is going to be an arse and as its his house too, there isn't much I can do about it.
I just hope all my fears are unfounded and he will be a decent, adult human being for once 🙄

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Molstraat · 17/04/2025 15:39

If you have even the slightest aggression from him and his friends, ring the police.
Ask them to be quiet.
Have your phone on record in your pocket.
Record any interactions and call the police the minute he is being unreasonable.
You have and elderly (vile battle axe) woman ill in the annex and she is upset at the noise and you are afraid for you both.

Hopefully he will go mad at the police being called, kick off, and be removed by them🤞

Daleksatemyshed · 17/04/2025 15:56

This is his bit of petty revenge Op, he knews you don't like them so he's trying to make you as uncomfortable as possible. Maybe he thinks you'll leave and he can have the house, he really seems to live in cloud cuckoo land.

S0j0urn4r · 17/04/2025 16:22

Hang in there!
Glad you're putting things in writing: evidence!
If you get a minute google Oppositional Defiant Disorder (ODD). Some of your interactions with him remind me of this.
Also, don't forget, his 1st wife tried to kill him, his 2nd wife's family paid him off. You have not caused any of this.
Would your son be able to visit this weekend?

notatinydancer · 17/04/2025 16:47

2024onwardsandup · 15/03/2025 18:51

How’s your asset ownership? If you’re not married you won’t get half - does that matter?

She owns the same as him. In fact more because she will have her mother’s share.

notatinydancer · 17/04/2025 16:48

@Sunflowers67what a nightmare. I don’t suppose he’s told you what his solicitor said ?

Pointynoseowner · 17/04/2025 16:52

The best advice I can give you is go back to your lovely councellor. You need help to try and unpick all that you've said here. If you trusted her and it was helpful, that is like finding a pot of gold. Please do give it another try, sending love.

RandomMess · 17/04/2025 18:40

Yes invite any and every visitor this weekend you can.

Sunflowers67 · 17/04/2025 21:16

Thank you everyone - it really does help to know people are listening and caring enough to reply with words of encouragement and advice.
He was probably speaking to the 'speaking clock' - if it even still exists as I am showing my age now - and pretending to organise a weekend here. He is loud, but this conversation was super loud - even for him.
My children are all away doing their own thing this weekend so I will tough it out, I will call the police if anything happens or gets out of hand - I am just trying to keep things civil whilst we get through this. Animosity and bad atmospheres effect me and mum far more than they do him - he'll just keep on laughing and singing.

Even his refusal to let me know about his solicitor visit, discuss our house and future is just so controlling and disrespectful. Then, in the next breath, he will say something really 'normal and irrelevant' and then huff and puff when I don't answer or just 'grey rock' him as I have been doing.

Off to google ODD now - that will keep my mind busy for a while thank you S0j0urn4r

I just want him gone and out of my life now.

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Notsosure1 · 18/04/2025 04:56

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Notsosure1 · 18/04/2025 05:13

SO sorry! I’ve asked for my post to be removed as I’ve just read the updates and he sounds totally awful. I hope you’re doing ok OP and successfully remove this awful twat from your life 💐

MrsJJ84 · 18/04/2025 07:29

What first attracted you to him ?
has he always been as bad as this ?
putting a chair against your door suggests you’re scared of him . That’s really not a healthy relationship . I’d be looking to leave and live my retirement doing all the things I love with people who love me !

Sunflowers67 · 18/04/2025 10:36

MrsJJ84 - what first attracted me to him? Good question.
15 years ago I had decided to go on POF and get out more, meet new people and yes, hopefully find that special person.
5 dates in and I was about to give up as they were all a little 'odd'. Then I met him.
I joke that he was the 'best of a bad bunch' but he was fun, tall, opened doors, I found him attractive and the sex was good.
He was also broken - had come out of two marriages whereby he was the victim of drunken behaviour, physical abuse and emotional abuse.
I was a fixer - so perfect match.
He moved in with me within three months after an emergency at his place - and he just stayed.
I don't think I can blame him entirely for where we are today - yes there were red flag and alarm bells ringing but I was determined to make a round peg fit into a square hole. In my mind, he was a lovely, kind, normal man and I was the broken one, the one that was too emotional and couldn't tell what was happening. I was needy, lonely and unable to listen to the warning bells. I was the damaged goods - at least in my mind.
The first time he really 'flipped' was about six months in - I had arranged a surprise birthday party for him. Only about 8 of his closest friends and a nice dinner.
He barely spoke all through it, just drank. I remember asking him if everything was okay - there was no thank you for arranging it. No hug or kiss - just anger. I could tell he was simmering and I had no idea why or what I had done wrong.
I got upset, he grabbed his mates and went to the pub. I paid the bill at the restaurant and went home - still really unaware of what I had done.
The next day - he just said he hated things like that.
Birthdays, Christmas, special occasions - he hated them all. I used to love things like that - but not anymore. Over the years I have not gotten excited about them anymore - just last year I remember saying to him that we would have a quiet one as I knew how much he hated them.
He got angry and shouted "why the fuck do you always do that? Why do you always say I hate Christmas - you ruin it all the time by blaming me. Its always you who is crying over something and causing a fight, not me".

I can see it all now that I have stepped away. My mind clears more and more each day and then another memory pops up from nowhere.

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S0j0urn4r · 18/04/2025 11:17

I was 20 years in an abusive marriage. I was a strong, independent woman when we met. We worked for the same company and I was senior. I didn't even realise how bad it was until after we split. I'd be discussing my old life with friends and they'd be like ' WTAF????' That's when I realised how abusive it was. I could only see it when I looked at it from outside.

Sunflowers67 · 18/04/2025 17:54

Why did I ever think that living together when separated would suddenly mean he was thoughtful and respectful to everyone else in this house when he never was before?
Mum is really ill in bed and I'm trying to work.
All we can hear is him shouting and swearing and thumping on the floor - two hours this has been going on.
I am beyond angry.
I know he is trying to get a reaction - I know he is hoping I will ask him to be quieter just so as he can say 'No'.
Horrible little man child.

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OlderGlaswegianLivingInDevon · 18/04/2025 18:25

The sooner the money is raised to buy him out the better !
How is your son getting on with his mortgage application.

otherwise will the house really take years to sell ? why ?
are you in the UK.

Sunflowers67 · 19/04/2025 00:08

Yes UK - My son and I cannot even start a mortgage application until he responds to the options he was given - he buy us out/we buy him out/sell up/do nothing - and that deadline was the 17th to receive an answer by.
He said he needed more time to see a solicitor, who has now been seen.
When I asked what he had decided, I was told "you will soon find out" - just another attempt at control on his part.

If we start a mortgage application now, that will have an expiry date and if he keeps stalling or doesn't agree with the offer on the table - we would have to apply again. Better to wait it out - there is only so much stalling he can do before my solicitor applies to the court to make the decision for him. He is aware that if it goes that far, the cost can be up to £40,000 and the loser pays everyone's costs. And he would lose that fight.

I'll wait it out for now - I've lived with the nasty little man child this long, I can wait a little longer.

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Sunflowers67 · 21/04/2025 13:43

I decided to be assertive and ask him outright what he has decided - this is the conversation:

"So, the deadline for communicating your available options to me has passed. Can you tell me what you have decided?"

"My solicitor will decide"

"But I haven't heard from your solicitor so cant you just tell me?"

"No - they will talk to your solicitor and let them know, then you will know - even I don't know what the decision will be - they just said to go home and be your usual lovely self at home and we will handle it all".

Is it just me or does anyone else find that odd?
I went to my solicitor, got their insight and advice and made my decisions based on that information.
Has he gone to his and just said "you decide my future, what I want and where I will live and how I leave my long term partner of 15 years?".

And how will his solicitor talk to mine if he doesn't even know the name of my solicitor?

Or maybe he hasn't even seen one and is just stalling.
Or am I missing something else here entirely?

He's now in his bedroom laughing and singing to himself.

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Diarygirlqueen · 21/04/2025 13:53

He sounds as if he's having a breakdown.

Sunflowers67 · 21/04/2025 13:58

#Diarygirlqueen He sounds as if he's having a breakdown

This is his 'normal self' - always laughing and singing to show me that nothing I say or do bothers him. He's done that for the whole time I've known him - I could be crying and upset and he'd walk away whistling a merry tune.
That used to upset me even more - feeling so unloved and uncared for. It doesn't anymore - it just puts more nails in the coffin of the relationship.

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RandomMess · 21/04/2025 14:42

He’s a lying dickhead IMHO

Diarygirlqueen · 21/04/2025 14:43

I hope you get sorted soon, sounds a nightmare.
Good luck OP x

VexedofVirginiaWater · 21/04/2025 15:32

Did you ask how his solicitor was going to contact yours if they don't know who it is? Obviously it's bollocks, I'm pretty sure he hasn't seen one.

S0j0urn4r · 21/04/2025 16:00

Probably planning to stonewall in the hope it will all go away.
Did he have people over this weekend?

LadyMacbethssweetArabianhand · 21/04/2025 18:04

You got the reply I could have guessed he would give. Stop giving him ammunition to hurt and annoy you. The person to ask was your solicitor, not him. You really really need to ignore him as much as you can. You aren't dealing with someone rational or kind. Live as though he isn't there. Walk out of a room if he walks in. Don't ask him anything and act as though he isn't there.

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