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I need a good rant - advice also helpful!

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Sunflowers67 · 12/03/2025 12:21

So, we have been together about 15 years now - living together for 14 of those.
I always knew he was a little 'quirky' but I suppose with family, friends, busy career, I was able to handle it better.
Now, we are both semi retired, my dad passed away so my mum lives with us (not easy, but what else can an only child do), the kids have left home and his 'quirky' little ways are far more noticeable, annoying and darn right hurtful at times.
We are also due to get married in two weeks and I don't think I'm gonna do it. It wont bother him if we don't, he'll just shrug his shoulders and carry on as usual. He wont leave our home or threaten to end the relationship - he never does. Sometimes I wish there would be a huge display of emotion and anger and then we can both just shout at each other, get it out of our systems and then communicate and repair. But he doesn't communicate, he never sees a problem and I am increasingly becoming immune and unfeeling towards him - I suppose its a form of self protection.
We have separate bedrooms, seperate interests and I would say we have lived together like two mates for years - except I don't treat my mates like this.

So, what does he do that is so bad? he doesn't drink much, he is not a cheat, he is not secretive, he would help anyone (except me), he tolerates my mother living with us, he gets on well with my grown up kids (he chooses not to see his family).
He has no emotions, he cannot 'read a room', he doesnt know when I am sad or worried or down as he cannot recognise body language or facial expressions. I have felt for quite some time that he is maybe autistic (his son is, which is why he chooses not to see him - he cant handle the skewed thoughts and strange behaviours from him and never did when he was a small child - the boy was raised by his alcoholic mother, we tried for custody but because we didn't get it, my other half then decided to not see the boy).
Not my style of parenting, but it was his choice.
Now, as we are getting on in years and my health has taken a down turn, I need his support and understanding more. And it isn't there. But then it never was.
I spend my days doing my own thing around the large property that we have - if we try and do something together, gardening, cleaning, maintenance, he just gets frustrated that I'm not doing it his way! So we work separately.
Many a time I have tried to talk to him and he takes it so personally, gets angry, wants very specific examples of how his behaviour has hurt me - and even if I do remember specifics, he then disputes it and turns it all around so as its me with the problem.
Then I am the one more upset, the one staying in my room wondering how my life amounted to this? And what dooes he do whilst I'm upset? He is carrying on as normal, in his own little world. He'll put some music on, he will sing and whistle and be merry. I suppose in his mind, this is me being me - moody, upset and I will snap out of it in a few days. Which I do. The hurt dissipates a little so I carry on functioning normally again - I will talk to him, I will get busy and then round we go again. Same old same old.
I have given up trying to talk to him, I know it does no good. I have tried to get us into some counselling but no where near me does 'couples counselling' - he is willing to go if I find somewhere. He is probably hoping that a counsellor will point out 'the error of my ways'.
I think what bothers me the most is the fact that it doesn't bother him that we are like this - that he is not upset, he doesn't try to talk to me about us, there is just nothing there with him.
I am upstairs now, typing this, and I can hear him downstairs singing away, happy and joyful. I feel like I want to go downstairs and hit him with the large skillet and scream 'feel that buster?!' - I wont, I'm not a violent person. But god does he bring out the worst in me.

Going our separate ways is probably the best option but its quite a scary thought to go it alone after 15 years - and then splitting all the assets, looking after mother, tending to this large place/or even having to sell it and split the proceeds, lawyers. He also would not leave the home so we would be living in more hell until everything was finalised and I am the only one that feels the pain of that.

I suppose I really want us/him to change. And I'm old enough to know that wont happen - been there/divorced that many years ago.

Thank you for letting me offload.

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parietal · 26/05/2025 17:28

You did the right thing getting him out. just think how you can enjoy sitting in the garden without his awful music.

Has there been any progress on the legal process of buying him out? That will help you get long term security.

GenerousGardener · 26/05/2025 17:32

Remember when you wanted to pee on your pillow because you were so frightened to come out of your room? Hold that thought. …

Sunflowers67 · 27/05/2025 01:15

Remember when you wanted to pee on your pillow because you were so frightened to come out of your room? Hold that thought. …

You are so right - thank you. As that was such an obviously normal way to live 🙄

Has there been any progress on the legal process

No - there never has been apart from mine writing to his, sending nudges to get things moving - nothing, no response. He probably knows its costing me money to do this so he will stall for as long as possible. Or he is so devastated by what he has done to me that he's decide to not pursue his claim on the joint assets. Or, he's waiting for the restraining order to end and will move back in 😱- I have instructed my solicitor to apply for an occupation order now as well.

I went for a little nap this afternoon as I was feeling quite drained and emotional again. I slept for six hours! Going to be up until 3am now no doubt and then feel like poo tomorrow.

I've just watched 'It ends with us' and really enjoyed the film - just what I needed. Probably not a true story, as in based on anyone in particular, but for many it is their truth and how they live. If she can do it, so can I.

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S0j0urn4r · 27/05/2025 03:51

@Sunflowers67 I think it was based on the author's parents.

Daleksatemyshed · 27/05/2025 09:20

Glad you're going with the occupation order @Sunflowers67 , he was so hell bent on punishing you before, can you imagine how much worse he'd be now? I know it's difficult to go on with the police statement but it will lend real weight to your occupation request. Even if you end up having to go legal to get his agreement to sell at least you'll be living in peace while you wait. No peeing on pillows for you!

Sunflowers67 · 30/05/2025 10:16

So, the occupation order is a 'no go' - too expensive and far too stressful and then only lasts six months. It's not an option for me at the moment, so I just have to trust that 1. he does get things moving with the solicitor and 2. the DVPO will keep being extended whilst I wait.

Today is 'count my blessings day' - focus on the good things and try to chase the negative and unhelpful thoughts away.

I have amazing, kind, wonderful adult children that I raised on my own - I did that!
I have a roof over my head and food on my table
I love my dog - she's my best mate/sleeping companion/giver of hugs and kisses
I can drive and have a car = freedom
I'm struggling but not down to my last 50p just yet - no huge debts and bills all paid
Health is okay - not great but not any worse
I sleep well
I appreciate and marvel at nature - I can lose myself in just looking at a leaf.
I have a great counsellor
I have things to keep me busy - lots of books to read and some great TV shows all lined up for the quieter evenings and an adult education class starting.
I am a good, kind, caring, compassionate and loving person and this has not made me angry, bitter or resentful, nor will it.
I am resilient, strong, a fighter - there is nothing on this earth that will beat me down and certainly not another person.

Watch this space - I'll be in tears again in an hour 😁
Have a good day everyone and just keep moving forwards.

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RandomMess · 30/05/2025 12:07

Honestly I would change the locks and let him take you to court for him to regain access.

Molstraat · 30/05/2025 12:49

RandomMess · 30/05/2025 12:07

Honestly I would change the locks and let him take you to court for him to regain access.

Absolutely.

The narrative being you "lost" the keys.
Stick closely to that simple story.

Tell him to take you to court to get a copy of the new set.
Highly unlikely he will and you have some comfort.

Get a video door bell too, for some comfort and to catch any poor behaviour.

Preferably for front and back doors.

OwlBeThereForYouTwitTwoo · 30/05/2025 20:19

RandomMess · 30/05/2025 12:07

Honestly I would change the locks and let him take you to court for him to regain access.

I second this. Please do it OP.
I have been reading all your posts and I think you are so strong and a lovely person. Keep going, you can do this, one step at a time.

Sunflowers67 · 03/06/2025 00:55

Just a little update whilst insomnia has hit 🙄- think I'm just a bit wired from today still even though I feel mentally exhausted.
It was the big statement day with the police today - I suppose this is the one that gets submitted to CPS? I don't have a clue as its not something I have ever had to do before. I know they have taken a few statements from me already but this one was hours and hours of talking about how we met, previous incidents, what he said or did, how I felt.....I have trouble remembering where I live some days, let alone remembering what he said ten years ago!
I can remember how I felt but finding the right words and expressing myself succinctly is so difficult. It just stirred everything all up for me again and I couldn't stop crying.
I have to go back again tomorrow as we are only half way through!

I really do not want to continue with this - I wish there was another way.
Saying all these bad things about someone that I loved and would have done anything for at one time, seems so so wrong. It's made me question it all over again and doubt my perception of it all - and I was doing so well 😢

Anyone here been through this reporting procedure? Will they really prosecute? Will any good come of this? Is this guilt normal despite how he treated me? How do you keep going on this path when every fibre of your being is screaming at you that you are being the bad guy.

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AcrossthePond55 · 03/06/2025 02:00

@Sunflowers67

It's never wrong to do what is needed to protect yourself. Please, please remember the past, the times he scared you, abused you, and the ways he has shown he has contempt for you. Do not blind yourself. Write a list if it would help. It doesn't have to be 'in order'. It doesn't have to be detailed. It may only be a word or two or three. Just enough for you to see it down there, on paper, can be powerful and helpful.

Blub away during your statement time. You will not do or say anything that the police have not heard someone else do or say. They understand confusion, forgetting things, weeping. These are all trauma responses. They are used to it!

Don't worry about finding the 'right words'. Your words, however you say them, are the right words. And sometimes speaking them aloud can help you remember, help you phrase things.

Yes, the guilt is normal. He has programmed you to believe you are the 'bad guy' and he is the 'victim' (that's DARVO). And he has done this to the point where you believe it. But you are NOT the 'bad guy'. You are a woman fighting to leave a bad situation.

Here is the truth: You have value. You are a good person and you deserve a good life. You may have to go through tough times to get there, but you will get there.

SortingItOut · 03/06/2025 05:20

Sending hugs 🩷
You've done so well to give your police statement.

I never reported my ex-husband to the police but I know that back then whenever I spoke to someone about what happened (solicitor, counsellor etc) I couldn't stop crying- being open and honest makes everything so raw ☹️

Barely anyone knows what went on but if I do talk about the less bad bits people are shocked and I'm then shocked by their reaction as I don't think it's that bad.

I've read stuff on here that people have gone through that's similar to me and have huge compassion for them and concern for their life but it doesn't compute for ages that I went through that too.

Our brains process bad/traumatic memories first and don't forget abuse is like a boiling frog, we don't even realise it's happening for years and years. It's no wonder we struggle to comprehend what happened.

When my DD used to talk about her Dad (they've fallen out now as abusers don't change, they find new victims) I really struggled to view him as the man that verbally, emotionally and financially abused me for years.
In my clearer moments I wonder whether he is treating his new girlfriend the same.

I know you will get through today as you are so strong.
Don't worry about prosecution or anything like that, it's important right now to make people aware of what he did as you need to be safe in your home.

Has there been any more movement with the sorting of assets?
Hopefully both your solicitors are in contact and if not that your solicitor will take it to court for you.

ShiningStar3 · 03/06/2025 05:34

Autism is no excuse to be cold and cruel. Autistic men seem to get a lot of leeway with this but funnily enough none of the autistic women (myself included) have had this problem. You could argue autistic women tend to mask more but you can only mask so much!

And let's say his behaviour is all down to autism- it's still hurting you and you have every right to leave.

S0j0urn4r · 03/06/2025 08:31

He's vile. You know he is. Just read your previous posts.
Your guilt is misplaced.
Just take it one day at a time. ❤️

Sunflowers67 · 03/06/2025 14:11

Phew - and relax!
Finished the statement today with the police. I am a little annoyed that it wasnt the video one as I think a written statement could be interpretated how any one wishes. I could also be a lying, mental bit*h as I am sure he will portray me as. A video would have been hard to fake or lie about, my trauma and emotions would be there for all to see. But it is what it is and I have done it.
Now we wait for the CPS to decide if they are going to pursue it or not. I already have it in my mind that they wont. All of that can take months and in the meantime they keep extending his bail - so the home will stay calm and peaceful for a while longer at least.

Nothing from his solicitor so mine has sent another letter to his today, asking if he is still acting for him and that we insist on a decision.
The next step will be our application to court for them to decide.

But today I am just going to do some nice things now, relax a little, cook something nice for tea, walk the dog and buy myself some flowers.

Thank you for your support everyone - it is so welcome and appreciated.

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OlderGlaswegianLivingInDevon · 03/06/2025 14:16

Buying flowers is always worthwhile, I don't think ' we ' do it for ourselves often enough.

may I ask what kind of dog ? or do you think that would be ' outing '

DorothywiththeRedShoes · 03/06/2025 14:26

Well done @Sunflowers67

You have spoken your truth and now it's up to the authorities to decide. Please don't feel guilty, keep in your mind how he has treated you.
At least he is not in your home, disrupting your peace.

You have been so brave, be kind to yourself.

Sunflowers67 · 03/06/2025 14:51

#OlderGlaswegianLivingInDevon
She is the most gorgeous, loving and affectionate creature that ever walked this earth - she knows how I am feeling and will either come to me for snuggles and kisses or she will come to me for playtime.
She is the epitome of unconditional love and some men could learn a lot from her 😄- she is currently pawing at my leg so walkies time for both of us.

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S0j0urn4r · 03/06/2025 16:00

My dogs basically got me through my divorce and kept me alive.
So glad you have her 🤗

Sunflowers67 · 04/06/2025 22:23

I have hurtled into a tailspin 🙄
For the first time since all this started I saw him. I don't think he saw me but he walked past my parked car and into the shop next to me. I wouldn't have recognised him at all if he hadn't been wearing the same coat - in fact, my first thought was 'oh, Bob used to have a coat like that'.

He struck me as being thin, pale, unkempt and sad - unless that was just my perception. But he was thin and his clothes were hanging off him. He looked like a tramp.
It tugged at my heartstrings and I just wanted to hold him, take him home and make everything better.
All I have done on and off all day is cry - this is just the shitiest of things imaginable.
Completely caught off guard by it and whooooomph I feel so sad for him, for me, for us.

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AcrossthePond55 · 04/06/2025 22:28

Deep breaths. There is nothing for you to do other than take care of yourself.

Right now that is your priority.

He has made his bed. It’s not your job to fluff its pillow for him anymore

DorothywiththeRedShoes · 04/06/2025 22:32

understandable to feel that way.

But you are feeling sad for the relationship that you didn't have and the man that he isn't.

He has shown you who he is and you must keep thinking about how he has behaved.
Of course he looks rough, he has had the rug pulled out from under him. He didn't think you were strong enough to go through with this.

You could have taken him home, but 100% he will be back to his old tricks and you will be kicking yourself.

You feel like this because you are a kind person. Do not let him keep torturing you, even in your mind.

S0j0urn4r · 04/06/2025 23:00

He created this situation.
This is the man who terrorised you so that you daren't leave your room.
Karma's a bitch!

Sunflowers67 · 04/06/2025 23:18

I wish I could find some anger towards him - no matter how deep I dig, there is nothing. The only feelings I have ever had were love, compassion, trying to understand him, confusion, sadness, hopelessness and then fear. But not one little bit of anger will surface. Just immense sadness, regret for the life we could have had, regret that he wouldn't/couldn't see what he was doing to us - if there had been some glimmer of accountability or regret from him, of reaching out for help and the acknowledgement that he needed help - I would have stood by him.

But there was nothing - not one teeny weeny bit of it from him - So he left me no choice but to end something that I didn't want to end. Stupid stupid stupid man 😭

Why doesn't he move away back to his family and friends, why doesn't he deal with the practicalities of all this - pick up his things, contact his solicitor and settle his share of the house, take some money and start afresh.
I don't want to see him when I go to get bread or milk or go out to post a letter.....

Stupid man.

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OlderGlaswegianLivingInDevon · 04/06/2025 23:19

Don't worry, when he gets 1/3 of your house/home and 1/2 of your business he will be able to afford new clothes.
he is expecting 1/2 of your business isn't he, as well as 1/3 of a house that he didn't pay a penny for and you aren't even married.

Do you not see a pattern here ? he had a previous wife that had to pay him off ! at least they were married !
You allowed him 1/2 of your house because he felt ' left out ' was that the words you wrote / he used ?

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