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Husband has stated its a wife's role to look after her man

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Youfucknugget · 10/03/2025 20:04

I'm hoping that writing some of this down can help organise my thoughts as I'm struggling to get my point across to my husband. We’ve been having issues for a while, I believe it’s due to the way he treats me - he genuinely doesn’t seem to believe he’s doing anything wrong. Any arguments/discussions are basically circular now and neither of us seem to be able to see the other’s point of view. Our sex life is non-existent atm as I’m unwilling, but we were having sex until 8 weeks ago when things really fell apart. There is a history of past infidelity on his part which he claims is where our issues are stemming from as he believes I can't move on, I think its more than that.

This weekend is a good example of how things currently are. I spent most of the weekend trying to avoid him as when I’d come home from work on Friday the house stunk of weed, so much so our 16yr old commented. I tend to avoid conflict, so hadn’t said anything until he demanded 3 times that I needed to say why I was walking round with a face like a slapped arse as we needed to be communicating more.

When I did eventually say what was bothering me I was told I was out of order, he was near suicidal 3 weeks ago, would I prefer he was still like that as he was using the weed to cope? He’d just got his head back in the game but I’m derailing it. He’s not prepared to live like this, I’m policing him, he’s done, he’s going to leave, if I want to go to war then he’s prepared, He’s been trying to be the best man he can but I'm not doing anything to make our situation better.

He goes on and on about why I’m out of order until I’m worn down. Will tell me that we need to communicate but when I do I’m always in the wrong. I’ve had to point out I’m entitled to my own feelings and emotions in past arguments - he’ll say that I am - immediately followed by a ‘but’ as to how they affect him and his mental health. I’m well aware that by voicing anything he views negatively towards him will just result in hearing about how I’m risking his head going which means he can’t earn - is that what I want etc (he is the main earner). Mentioned that he needs sex and as his wife, that's what wives do, did I want him to just go out fucking?

Ended with him shutting himself away to play computer games for the remainder of the evening

Next morning - I’m getting the kids up for school, walked the dogs, getting ready for work - he is in bed. Comes down to tell me I’m being passive aggressive for not making him a coffee whilst he stays in bed working. Said can we both agree that the deal is he gets 2 coffees in the morning. When I said I wasn’t sure how things had been left after the previous day he then talked at me for 20mins about how he was working, he paid the bills, he wasn’t prepared to put up with this from me, again mentioned that he doesn’t want to go to war but he would.

He stood over me, pointing, gritting his teeth, calling me a cunt, to the point I cry. I’m then told off as our 16yr old saw and asked if I’m ok. Repeatedly asked why I would let our 16yr old see me like that (I had to take him to school for an early revision session for his mocks and he’d already said that he didn’t want his dad taking him as it would stress him out)
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Came back to him more conciliatory but told I was frustrating him and that’s why he blows up. Talked at for another 15mins about how he’s trying, he thinks if we can just get past ‘this’ life is going to be great, he wants intimacy and as I’m withdrawn so how else is he supposed to act. He doesn’t want to fight but I’m pushing him. Usually ends in the same manner with both of us feeling frustrated that we can’t see the others point of view

It's rumble on this evening which is when he mentioned the wife's role being to look after her man again and asked me to answer how long should a man be expected to stay in a marriage when not getting any sex.

When I pushed back on the wife’s role bit he asked what I thought a wife’s role was and when I answered that i didn’t think there are roles, it’s meant to be a partnership where we both work together for the good of the family - he replied to tell me if it was a partnership like I believed then I should put up with his ranting at me. That I couldn’t have it both ways. Again told that he had done all the work he needed to do on himself and I’d changed nothing. But when pressed on what I need to change the only thing he ever mentions is having more sex.

I'm really struggling to understand his point, he's very fixated on me taking responsibility for the part he believes I've played in how we are now but I'm unwilling to acquiesce - so we are at a stalemate.

So I'm looking for some outsider opinions. From the brief snapshot of our marriage albeit from my side only - am I at fault?

OP posts:
tallwivglasses · 09/04/2025 15:46

Wow, good on you, OP. Do keep posting and please don't give a shit about what he's saying to other people. Anyone wise will have some idea of what's really going on.

28Fluctuations · 09/04/2025 16:02

Really well done for pushing for a divorce! That's great news. You are going to be so much happier.

About evwrytging else: he's lying. Just assume every word is a lie meant to manipulate you. You won't be far off.

Get a solicitor. Ask around and find a good one. Do not under any circumstances let him dictate the terms of your financial settlement.

CarpetKnees · 09/04/2025 16:44

Well done @Youfucknugget . What a massive step.

I can't advise on the business. I get your thinking about 'clean break' but don't want you to be underselling yourself. I really think it would be valuable to get professional advice on that . Also on pension - it might seem a long way away now, but comes round sooner than you think.

millymoo1202 · 09/04/2025 17:00

Well done you for being so strong, you can do this! Please get a solicitor and don’t engage with him

Seaoftroubles · 09/04/2025 18:00

I echo the other posters who have said well done on being strong enough to stand up to him and insisting on a divorce. Please do see a solicitor though, you need support and guidance and the fact he doesn't want you to get legal advice speaks volumes! Protect yourself and your children and seek out a good solicitor to help you get what you deserve. Do not allow him to dictate the terms of your divorce settlement no matter what he threatens. All the best OP, stay strong!

Gettingbysomehow · 09/04/2025 18:29

Your H has turned into an incel. He despises you. You need to leave and ignore his pathetic threats.

EarthSight · 09/04/2025 18:53

He stood over me, pointing, gritting his teeth, calling me a cunt, to the point I cry. I’m then told off as our 16yr old saw and asked if I’m ok. Repeatedly asked why I would let our 16yr old see me like that

Honestly OP, from what you've written, he's the one that sounds like a cunt.

I know you're past this now, and you were understandably too upset, but this should have made you rageful. The absolute fucking cheek of his behaviour, and yes, I can bet he was gobsmacked when he learnt that you did want a divorce. Abusive people or bullies often take other people's loyalty for granted and will use it to treat them badly, so he wasn't expecting that he'd made a miscalculation there. Good for you!

Also, not in the least bit surprised that his children won't be bothered emotionally at your divorce, and they will probably become more & more sympathetic when they're adults.

FlatErica · 09/04/2025 18:56

From this snapshot as an outsider, it’s all him and you need to get out and take your son with you.

Katkins17 · 09/04/2025 19:03

Im so pleased that you’ve made the right decision for you.

but please get a solicitor. They will defer payment until the house is sold if you speak to them.

a solicitor will help you with sorting everything out and believe me, he will do everything in his power to keep you short … don’t let him do that.

Daleksatemyshed · 09/04/2025 19:20

Well done Op, when he asked if you wanted a divorce he thought that was his ultimate weapon, by saying yes you've started to take back your life. All this rubbish about how women will be falling over themselves to be with him and the man being head of the house, it's all going to come as a nasty surprise to him when he finds out he's past the age when he can take his pick.
Get to the solicitors and agree to nothing financial until your solicitor has seen it, he'll try to screw you and his DC over if he can.
Your doing so well @Youfucknugget , keep going

SociableAtWork · 09/04/2025 19:32

I’m glad for you that you are divorcing. It’s not easy, especially when the husband is abusive because we become conditioned over time and don’t always see it for what it is. You’ve taken a hugely brave step and just need to keep going now.

See a solicitor for the financial agreement. Your shares in the business are what you can use to negotiate a better settlement. Some solicitors will do a free 30min consultation and other will offer deferred payments until things are sorted and money released.

I’d recommend reading “Why does he do that” by Lundy Bancroft - it’s a revelation. Was recommended to me on here years ago at a similar stage, gave me the courage to keep going with the divorce and I’m now so much happier. Be prepared for him to be a complete wanker - worse than ever - about the financial settlement and don’t give in for a quiet life or just to get it over with - fight for what’s rightfully yours and your kid’s.

My (now adult) kids were also happier once we’d divorced - they know when things aren’t right even if they don’t know why.

PinkElephantsOnParade2025 · 09/04/2025 19:43

You allow your children to live with an adulterer, drug smoker and abuser?

Your children will be struggling to understand this!

You will need to get them and yourself into therapy.

mathanxiety · 09/04/2025 19:54

FGS, stop trying to understand this weed-addled, misogynistic, entitled waste of space.

Start today to make plans to end this car crash of a relationship before he ends up destroying you.

TheGrimSmile · 09/04/2025 20:41

Get a solicitor. Even if you can only afford an initial hour long one off session.

TheGrimSmile · 09/04/2025 20:41

And well done! 👏

StarlightLady · 10/04/2025 06:33

ln a healthy relationship (which this is not) it is a wife’s role to look after a man but equally it is a husband’s job to look after a woman. It is about balance and equality.

It is not any woman’s job to tolerate abuse.

Imbusytodaysorry · 11/04/2025 10:57

@Youfucknugget Get as many free half hour appointments with solicitors that you can.
I don’t trust he will do right by you or your child.
You are doing the right thing leaving .

BellissimoGecko · 11/04/2025 11:14

Blimey, OP, congratulations! You have been really brave. Well done for making that first really important step.

i think your life will be so much nicer without him in it.

I’d get legal advice. If your h is saying not to, that probably means he has more assets than you think…

btw, your h is a patriarchal, sexist dinosaur. It’s no coincidence he went for you since you are so much younger than him. He probably felt he could mould you into the woman he wanted.

You deserve so much more.

Bloodyhotbifolds · 11/04/2025 11:26

Excellent work op, bloody excellent! Well done you for standing up to him. He is a misogynistic, entitled, selfish man child and you and your dc are well rid of him.
He's going to get bitten on the arse, because, honestly? No decent woman would entertain a man who ditches his children, but that is not your concern.
It’s your time now, rebuild your life with you and the dc at the centre, without this sack of shit dragging you all down. I’m cheering you on op, you can absolutely do this xxx

Fluffypotatoe123987 · 11/04/2025 15:45

You can't get past the infidelity then leave why are you making each other miserable.

The13thFairy · 12/04/2025 13:00

I'm wondering ~ what would 'going to war' entail? He is already utterly abusive.

The13thFairy · 12/04/2025 13:08

If you tell a man like this to leave, he'll laugh in your face - and he'll stay put.

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