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Husband has stated its a wife's role to look after her man

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Youfucknugget · 10/03/2025 20:04

I'm hoping that writing some of this down can help organise my thoughts as I'm struggling to get my point across to my husband. We’ve been having issues for a while, I believe it’s due to the way he treats me - he genuinely doesn’t seem to believe he’s doing anything wrong. Any arguments/discussions are basically circular now and neither of us seem to be able to see the other’s point of view. Our sex life is non-existent atm as I’m unwilling, but we were having sex until 8 weeks ago when things really fell apart. There is a history of past infidelity on his part which he claims is where our issues are stemming from as he believes I can't move on, I think its more than that.

This weekend is a good example of how things currently are. I spent most of the weekend trying to avoid him as when I’d come home from work on Friday the house stunk of weed, so much so our 16yr old commented. I tend to avoid conflict, so hadn’t said anything until he demanded 3 times that I needed to say why I was walking round with a face like a slapped arse as we needed to be communicating more.

When I did eventually say what was bothering me I was told I was out of order, he was near suicidal 3 weeks ago, would I prefer he was still like that as he was using the weed to cope? He’d just got his head back in the game but I’m derailing it. He’s not prepared to live like this, I’m policing him, he’s done, he’s going to leave, if I want to go to war then he’s prepared, He’s been trying to be the best man he can but I'm not doing anything to make our situation better.

He goes on and on about why I’m out of order until I’m worn down. Will tell me that we need to communicate but when I do I’m always in the wrong. I’ve had to point out I’m entitled to my own feelings and emotions in past arguments - he’ll say that I am - immediately followed by a ‘but’ as to how they affect him and his mental health. I’m well aware that by voicing anything he views negatively towards him will just result in hearing about how I’m risking his head going which means he can’t earn - is that what I want etc (he is the main earner). Mentioned that he needs sex and as his wife, that's what wives do, did I want him to just go out fucking?

Ended with him shutting himself away to play computer games for the remainder of the evening

Next morning - I’m getting the kids up for school, walked the dogs, getting ready for work - he is in bed. Comes down to tell me I’m being passive aggressive for not making him a coffee whilst he stays in bed working. Said can we both agree that the deal is he gets 2 coffees in the morning. When I said I wasn’t sure how things had been left after the previous day he then talked at me for 20mins about how he was working, he paid the bills, he wasn’t prepared to put up with this from me, again mentioned that he doesn’t want to go to war but he would.

He stood over me, pointing, gritting his teeth, calling me a cunt, to the point I cry. I’m then told off as our 16yr old saw and asked if I’m ok. Repeatedly asked why I would let our 16yr old see me like that (I had to take him to school for an early revision session for his mocks and he’d already said that he didn’t want his dad taking him as it would stress him out)
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Came back to him more conciliatory but told I was frustrating him and that’s why he blows up. Talked at for another 15mins about how he’s trying, he thinks if we can just get past ‘this’ life is going to be great, he wants intimacy and as I’m withdrawn so how else is he supposed to act. He doesn’t want to fight but I’m pushing him. Usually ends in the same manner with both of us feeling frustrated that we can’t see the others point of view

It's rumble on this evening which is when he mentioned the wife's role being to look after her man again and asked me to answer how long should a man be expected to stay in a marriage when not getting any sex.

When I pushed back on the wife’s role bit he asked what I thought a wife’s role was and when I answered that i didn’t think there are roles, it’s meant to be a partnership where we both work together for the good of the family - he replied to tell me if it was a partnership like I believed then I should put up with his ranting at me. That I couldn’t have it both ways. Again told that he had done all the work he needed to do on himself and I’d changed nothing. But when pressed on what I need to change the only thing he ever mentions is having more sex.

I'm really struggling to understand his point, he's very fixated on me taking responsibility for the part he believes I've played in how we are now but I'm unwilling to acquiesce - so we are at a stalemate.

So I'm looking for some outsider opinions. From the brief snapshot of our marriage albeit from my side only - am I at fault?

OP posts:
5128gap · 10/03/2025 22:11

Tell him that if he doesn't think he should be in a marriage with no sex and where his wife doesn't look after him, and where he's not allowed to smoke weed in the house, then that's tough, because that's all that's on offer. So he'd best be off, because even that's not going to be on offer much longer.
(Tell him this, only if you're not intimidated by him. If you are, you need to seek help from women's aid. He is abusive and if you think that could escalate and threaten your safety, take care.)

MissMoan · 10/03/2025 22:12

This is horrendous behaviour, OP, and it is impacting both you and your DC. I really hope you have the strength to leave.

livelovelough24 · 10/03/2025 22:15

Oh, boy OP, your posts remind me so much of my former life. I am sure that you are not "rubbish" at communicating, but he twists thing to confuse you. This is how it was for me. I would try to say something and then he would start fighting back to the point that I would not know what point I was trying to make. It is a special kind of brainwashing or mindfuckery, I would say, where you start questioning your own sanity. My ex would also insist I tell him what was wrong if he notices that I am quiet, but as soon as I say it he would get into defence and start twisting things around.

alwaysdeleteyourcookies · 10/03/2025 22:19

AelitaQueenofMars · 10/03/2025 20:21

Sorry, you read all that, and your first response is ‘why do you let him…’ - seriously?!

This! He's an abuser. Call Woman's Aid, OP.

abracadabra1980 · 10/03/2025 22:25

I couldn't read past your post after the paragraph when he called you a cunt. This is major abuse. Get out now for the sale of your sanity, and if not, your son's mental health.
I've been through this x2 (am much older than you), try and keep your head cool and calm but please just get away. Nothing good will ever come out of this relationship. Couples who have long and happy marriages are always able to resolve conflict. Any relationship where the conflict resolution is manipulative or absent, is doomed.

Nanny0gg · 10/03/2025 23:44

Redfred00 · 10/03/2025 21:22

You might need to delete your Internet history. Don't delete all of it because that looks suspicious. Just delete what you don't want him to see.

And change passwords and passcodes on your phone

MuckFusk · 11/03/2025 00:00

He's manipulating you, he's an abusive misogynist and a worthless POS. Get out of this and I promise you that you will be so glad you have left him. Your life will improve by leaps and bounds as he is doing nothing but dragging you down.

Youfucknugget · 11/03/2025 04:51

Again, thank you for all the replies - I am taking them all on board. I don't really have anyone that I felt I could discuss this with in real life as the people I know are mostly his friends. I'm fairly introverted and prefer my own company and I think I've always been aware that if I voice some of this stuff out loud people will judge me or pity me and I couldn't face that. My post last night was done out of a need for an external sounding board as I struggle to trust my own judgment - and you've definitely all come through

To answer some of your questions, my 16yr old is the not the youngest, our house is jointly owned and my part time jobs are well paid for the hours I work - but not enough to support me and the kids exclusively. I didn't use to work at all but I realised how vulnerable I was about 3yrs ago. I didn't tell him at the time I was getting a job as I couldn't judge how'd he react and only admitted it 2 days before I started as I needed him to do the school run. He's OK with it as its mostly within school hours and not every day. He has always promised that if we did split he'd hand over his share of the equity as a large chunk came from an inheritance I received but I'm guessing that's probably lip service.

I've always done my best to protect my kids from him - and to his credit he won't carry on around them usually. To clarify, my 16yr old saw me crying, the rest of the time he was upstairs getting ready for school and didn't witness the argument or the name calling. As far as I can recall I don't think he's ever called me a cunt in front of the kids. We tend to discuss a lot of stuff during dog walks away from the house or when they are at school - but I'm sure the older ones pick up on the vibes. And the house stunk of weed as he was smoking from the back door, not in the house - he did apologise for that but not for the rest of the behaviour.

And it's not always like this. There are plenty of periods where we get along OK. He's generous financially, I've never been scared physically of him - as I said, to the outside world he comes across differently. He knows a lot of people and is fairly successful in his field. There have been accusations of bullying from others in the past though but I always accepted the line that they were the ones out of order. He will say he doesn't know what he did for them to stop speaking to him, will voice that after all he's done for them he doesn't understand why they now treat him this way

As for Andrew Tate. I don't know. He believes Trump is a strong leader though (I don't)

OP posts:
PenneyFouryourthoughts · 11/03/2025 05:27

@Youfucknugget I'm glad you are making a plan. Apart from the weed smoking, my exH had a lot of similar qualities.

I also got with him fairly young and only when I finally "grew up" did I realise what a horrible man he really was. He claimed to love me but he really didn't like me very much. He doesn't like many women unless they meet his ideal of femininity. He supports all the usual actors in the rise of right wing populism including those in prison, currently. He's such a cliché.

Stay strong. It will eventually get better. Flowers

RosesAndHellebores · 11/03/2025 05:32

I hope you have paperwork in relation to your inheritance. Please go to see a solicitor. The ones who drew up the wall fir the inheritance might be a good start.

Daleksatemyshed · 11/03/2025 07:42

A grown man who goes out with a 16 yo wants someone he can control Op, his angry now because you've stopped giving him all his own way without complaint. Get legal advice Op, you need to get away, he'll never change and better poorer with some peace that this

RedToothBrush · 11/03/2025 07:48

Overtheatlantic · 10/03/2025 20:13

I just read at least 5 reasons to leave that bastard, starting with his infidelity. He’s an Andrew Tate acolyte.

I started reading the OP and thought online influence

Then I got to the bit where the OP said 'shut himself in his room playing computer games' and thought online influence.

Then I got to the bit about a 'wifes role' and thought online influence.

This man is reading shit online telling him it's ok to abuse his wife.

AND he has a drug problem which his 16 year old is aware of.

End it and bin him.

Oh and trying to say 'wifes role' in relation to sex is a type of coercion. If you give in and have sex after that, you have not consented freely and it's technically rape.

BansheeOfTheSouth · 11/03/2025 10:48

You are stronger than you think @Youfucknugget. You knew you were vulnerable and did something about it. You've been making the steps to leave without knowing it. Please go see a solicitor, especially about your inheritance. Your fears about not being able to support yourself and children may not be as dire as you think 🍀

thepariscrimefiles · 11/03/2025 11:38

This would be laughable if he wasn't so awful to you. He is living in a dream world if he thinks that he has done all the work that he needs to do on himself.

There is no coming back from this or getting through to him as he is obviously an abusive, gas-lighting, misogynistic narcissist who expects you to wait on him hand and foot and have sex with him whenever he wants.

The marriage is over due to his behaviour and you now need to take steps to leave him and get a divorce.

AelitaQueenofMars · 12/03/2025 07:11

saveforthat · 10/03/2025 21:48

Because if she can't stop him she can leave the situation.

Well you’ve filled your empathy-free bingo card. Have a sticker.

OP, MN is a mixed-bag as you can see, but you’ve had some good advice on here, not least from posters who have been where you are now. My Mum was in your situation once; she didn’t manage to leave, but those were different times without the support network you’ll find here and elsewhere. Best of luck.

saveforthat · 12/03/2025 07:18

AelitaQueenofMars · 12/03/2025 07:11

Well you’ve filled your empathy-free bingo card. Have a sticker.

OP, MN is a mixed-bag as you can see, but you’ve had some good advice on here, not least from posters who have been where you are now. My Mum was in your situation once; she didn’t manage to leave, but those were different times without the support network you’ll find here and elsewhere. Best of luck.

I don't know why you feel the need to keep attacking me and keep derailing the thread but I'm going to leave you to your nasty comments. Clearly you have issues in your past but just remember you don't know anyone else's situation.
OP. I hope you find the strength to leave

Devilsmommy · 12/03/2025 07:20

Sorry I couldn't even read all that, got to the part where your 16yo saw him calling you a cunt😡 get rid of this prick as fast as you can. He's a waste of your life

StrawberryDream24 · 12/03/2025 07:23

He's an abuser.

No it's, buts, ands or maybes.

He's trying to head-fuck you.
Your relationship is normal and isn't abusive.
It is abusive.
It's your fault.
It isn't.

Also the ages at which you got involved sound predatory to me.

24 and 16 (?)

16 wasn't even legal until recently where I come from.

8 years older at 16 is a huge gap.

How many men his age do you think picked 16 yr old school girls as their partners?? They would've got with 20 something girls around their own age.

StrawberryDream24 · 12/03/2025 07:24

Men like him go younger because they think it gets them control, gets them the advantage.

They think they'll get away with whatever they like .....and he has.
But it appears you're wising up.

StrawberryDream24 · 12/03/2025 07:29

Then I got to the bit about a 'wifes role' and thought online influence.

A husband's role in a marriage in a western democracy like ours is to be faithful and to cherish his wife.

He's failed both.

It's also to contribute well to the family finances and not waste family money on drugs.

He's failed on that too.

RedHelenB · 12/03/2025 07:34

Your poor kids, if you can't leave fir you , leave for them.

StrawberryDream24 · 12/03/2025 07:35

StrawberryDream24 · 12/03/2025 07:24

Men like him go younger because they think it gets them control, gets them the advantage.

They think they'll get away with whatever they like .....and he has.
But it appears you're wising up.

Remember that Jimmy Saville quote "I like girls, women know too much".

He's one of those.

I know of a woman whose husband left her for a teenager. She had put up with him coming in from work for ages and going upstairs to lie around and watch porn, instead of interacting with their sons.

He was sexually coercive like your h too. He went through a phase of hassling her for anal sex (no doubt from watching too much porn) and eventually raped her anally at a wedding. Held her down when they were both drunk, in their hotel room after the wedding.

As I said, he eventually left her for a teenager.

Because a teenager had less likelihood of knowing that any of the above wasn't normal or right when it came to her.

They don't want a real partner, they want someone "unequal" whom they can treat like shit, tell nonsense to, and get away with it.

StrawberryDream24 · 12/03/2025 07:39

There have been accusations of bullying from others in the past though but I always accepted the line that they were the ones out of order. He will say he doesn't know what he did for them to stop speaking to him, will voice that after all he's done for them he doesn't understand why they now treat him this way

Accusations of bullying, how surprising.

People cutting him off.
How surprising.

And it's all everyone else's fault, kind of like everything is your fault.

Even though it's obviously his.

What a coincidence.

Toomuch2019 · 12/03/2025 07:43

Please leave. If not for you for your kids.

I was your son in this situation, in therapy quarter of a century later. And my parents were still in the same cycle up until my dad died

Mrsgreen100 · 12/03/2025 07:47

Next time he threatens to leave, let him encourage him say yeah go on then you haven’t got the balls then change the locks

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