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First opportunity to spend the night together and he doesn't want to

506 replies

BellaGothTheSecond · 04/03/2025 19:56

I'm a single parent and the man I've been seeing for the last 5 months is also a single parent. It's not OLD, we already knew one another. We've had the exclusivity talk.

It can be tricky getting our schedules to align due to his work and me not having regular childcare (because my children have SEN) but we manage to get together for a day/evening during the week atleast once (sometimes twice) for a handful of hours.

For the first time things have aligned that we both have a child free night this weekend (this is rarer than hens teeth for me) so we've made plans to go out for dinner and then back to his.

I assumed he'd want me to stay over.

He asked how long was I able to spend with him and I said I could stay over head back in the morning to take over at home.

"Let's do a few hours" is what he came back with.

Instant disappointment.

I asked was there a reason he didn't want to spend the night together and he said he was just being considerate of my DM having the DC, then joked that he didn't want to hear me snore.

My DM is staying at my house. It isn't an issue for her. She assumed I'd be staying out herself.

His DC will be at his parents all night.

(I don't snore either!)

Wouldn't you be jumping at the chance to spend the whole night with somebody you say you're falling in love with?

I'm feeling a bit rejected. I have ADHD and do tend to feel rejection sensitive dysphoria so I can't always be sure that I'm not just being sensitive.

OP posts:
Nmeshed · 06/03/2025 01:20

FoxtrotOscarKindaDay · 05/03/2025 20:28

He said things he thought he'd want in the very early days. Reality has struck and he doesn't want you to stay over night.

What reason would you accept? People are allowed to not be ready to have someone else in their space all night or just not want to. Even men.

Or perhaps he doesn’t want her to stay on that particular night.

FoxtrotOscarKindaDay · 06/03/2025 01:26

Nmeshed · 06/03/2025 01:20

Or perhaps he doesn’t want her to stay on that particular night.

He's a man though and it only matters what @BellaGothTheSecond wants.

YourGoldHedgehog · 06/03/2025 01:45

It could be that he had bad experiences in the past with having someone sleeping next to him? I personally wouldn’t want an overnight with anyone if DH and I were separated for any reason. I feel even if I knew the guy intimately, I wouldn’t be able to relax falling asleep next to someone else ever again. I would worry they would have nightmares and flail out, be terrible snorers, restless legs, maybe needing to get up and down constantly and also falling asleep is so vulnerable I wouldn’t be able to drop my guard being a control freak. If I had a rare childfree night I would look forward to my own bed and no one in it. I wouldn’t want to explain this to anyone either (except on this forum lol).

I would probably just dial the intensity back a notch. Some miscommunication happened, the date has been called off, let some time pass and reassess. Is this guy, ‘The One?’ If not, and his communications are not the best, I would start looking elsewhere.

Myfrenchieismybestie · 06/03/2025 02:42

Gosh I dated someone like this for a couple of years his name doesn’t start with a c does it op? 🤣. I absolutely adored him and his children too but after a couple of years of situations like this I realised I was the only one looking for a future together whereas he was thinking things would always be the same as in on his terms, I was the only one making any sacrifices and that sucked.

saffronspices · 06/03/2025 02:49

I asked was there a reason he didn't want to spend the night together and he said he was just being considerate of my DM having the DC, then joked that he didn't want to hear me snore

Did you notice what he did there? First he uses your mum as a deflection to take the emphasis off himself, then he used your snoring as a get out clause - neither of which are honest answers. Has he cooled off at all recently? Time for him to fess up or for you to walk away - it seems like everything is on his terms, that isn't how relationships work.

Imisschampagne · 06/03/2025 03:17

Mhm I would’ve told him that you don’t want to meet up because it feels like he’s giving you a slot rather than wanting to spend the night with you. This way you’re also not communicating straight forward. If you’re not saying what’s bothering you you can’t expect the same thing from him.

i would say it’s time for a deep talk next time you see each other. And that time I would be up and front about this.

Also - it would’ve been the first time for a sleepover in five months? Is that right? Really weird it hasn’t worked our earlier - was that because of his schedule?

DorothyStorm · 06/03/2025 06:28

Nmeshed · 06/03/2025 01:20

Or perhaps he doesn’t want her to stay on that particular night.

This is the only option of an overnight in 5 months.

OldScribbler · 06/03/2025 07:06

AnonAnonmystery · 05/03/2025 20:47

I totally agree and @BellaGothTheSecond I don’t think you are forcing yourself on him, it’s a natural progression to spend a night together and the first one is a bit of a milestone! I don’t sleep well and sometimes my dp snores but I love staying of at his and love having him at mine too. You get round the messy bits in life that people have mentioned like bodily functions ect ect, it’s normal but no reason to put a barrier up! I hope you feel a bit better soon, he is such a bloody let down!

For whatever reason he's a tosser

cinnamongirl123 · 06/03/2025 07:07

This guy isn't emotionally available, he clearly doesn't have much empathy and he isn't boyfriend material.

This OP. Unfortunately. A rare chance to spend the night together would be seized with both hands by someone who actually cherished you & the relationship. Unless he actually gives you a real reason, he's showing you that he doesn't see this relationship as important. Obviously he doesn't need to give any reason, he is entitled to simply not want to spend the night with you - which we can draw our own conclusions on how highly he values the relationship.
And ignore the very weird posters on here implying that you're somehow forcing your way into his house overnight 😂 MN can produce some very bizarre comments!

cinnamongirl123 · 06/03/2025 07:10

Mhm I would’ve told him that you don’t want to meet up because it feels like he’s giving you a slot rather than wanting to spend the night with you. This way you’re also not communicating straight forward.

I agree with this too OP.
It's sad, but at least you've found this out now and not a year down the line.

EdithBond · 06/03/2025 07:51

BellaGothTheSecond · 05/03/2025 10:20

I'm definitely going to ask him to clarify where he's at with it and why he was against spending the night. I do feel I need to know so I can adjust my own behaviour and intentions accordingly.

If I was to push anymore through text my worry is he would just clam up more as whatever it is, he's clearly reluctant to come out with it.

It's highly likely I'm going to see him tomorrow and Friday (as in - we will be at the same place at the same time, not an arranged date) so I'm going to use that as my opportunity to raise it in person.

IMHO, you’re right not to keep asking over message. It can lead to miscommunication and may have made things worse.

And, all round, I think you made the right decision not to see him at all. It would’ve been so hard to have to leave and return home alone at his request. Can you go out with a friend instead or invite someone over, so you still have a great night off and he realises you have other things to do.

But do ask him directly when you see him: “Why didn’t you want me to stay with you overnight?’. If he asks why you’re asking, just say: ‘It sounded like you weren’t keen on the opportunity and that’s disappointing. Sounds like you want to keep things casual’. I wouldn’t say it upset you. If he’s being a bit controlling, he’ll enjoy that you were desperate to see him. Give him the impression it’s turned you off a bit, because presumably it has, and you chose something better to do.

If he asks why you cancelled, say something like: ‘I had a rare whole night off and wanted to make the most of it.’

BellaGothTheSecond · 06/03/2025 08:20

I think I'm on the receiving end of the silent treatment now which I can only assume is due to me cancelling. He usually texts lots but ' crickets ' since yesterday morning.

If this translates to in-person I may not get my answers today as hoped.

What a twat.

OP posts:
Gymbunny2025 · 06/03/2025 08:24

He wants you to feel uncomfortable and 'move on'. His actions demonstrate it's his way only and he won't discuss things. Never mind the sleepover!

Yellowcakestand · 06/03/2025 08:27

Sounds like it's going to fizzle out. Just cut it off x

WhatFreshHellisThese · 06/03/2025 08:28

Gymbunny2025 · 06/03/2025 08:24

He wants you to feel uncomfortable and 'move on'. His actions demonstrate it's his way only and he won't discuss things. Never mind the sleepover!

Feel like this doesn't it?

Good on you for not letting all this slide. It's a fair question and once he gets into the habit of closing down with emoticons then he may well continue

Imbusytodaysorry · 06/03/2025 08:29

BellaGothTheSecond · 06/03/2025 08:20

I think I'm on the receiving end of the silent treatment now which I can only assume is due to me cancelling. He usually texts lots but ' crickets ' since yesterday morning.

If this translates to in-person I may not get my answers today as hoped.

What a twat.

Has he just not txt at all or have you tried to communicate without any luck ?

MissDoubleU · 06/03/2025 08:32

BellaGothTheSecond · 06/03/2025 08:20

I think I'm on the receiving end of the silent treatment now which I can only assume is due to me cancelling. He usually texts lots but ' crickets ' since yesterday morning.

If this translates to in-person I may not get my answers today as hoped.

What a twat.

I think that’s actually all the answer you need. Things didn’t go his way (to have sex and for you to go home) and instead of treating you with basic respect he’s ignoring you. He isn’t that into you and he isn’t a good man or worth your time. This says it clearly as day.

Omgblueskys · 06/03/2025 08:33

BellaGothTheSecond · 06/03/2025 08:20

I think I'm on the receiving end of the silent treatment now which I can only assume is due to me cancelling. He usually texts lots but ' crickets ' since yesterday morning.

If this translates to in-person I may not get my answers today as hoped.

What a twat.

Yes what a twat! He's wanting to know why you have cancelled please don't tell him,

stampin · 06/03/2025 08:45

Not sure this is over, depends what he does next surely.

He can turn this around if he really wants to.

ilovebrie8 · 06/03/2025 08:50

This seems an odd way to carry on for two mature people I couldn’t be bothered with this.

He’s given no reason why you can’t stay over, emojis that are ambiguous then silent treatment …it’s not worth the head space.

Nmeshed · 06/03/2025 08:56

DorothyStorm · 06/03/2025 06:28

This is the only option of an overnight in 5 months.

Which came up unexpectedly. I wouldn’t necessarily rush to an overnight just because someone I was seeing suddenly had a night become available.

it sounds as though, for him, it isn’t that kind of relationship. Fair enough. Disappointing for op , but still fair enough.

I also agree with what others have said about clearer communication from both but recognise that isn’t so easy for every one.

Nmeshed · 06/03/2025 09:01

I am not usually on the side of the man (sorry but it’s true) but in this case I see some unfairness. How can we say he is giving her the silent treatment when she got petulant and cancelled their date because she wants to stay all night and he doesn’t want to do that. She gives us one side of the conversation to which he responded with a face palm but she doesn’t tell us what she said (well, she paraphrased her contribution). Couples have tiffs and misunderstandings especially if they don’t communicate well. I don’t see this as straightforward toxic male behaviour. Not yet anyway.

wakijaki09 · 06/03/2025 09:04

I'd say if you've already DTD and haven't spent the night he is probably not that serious and getting what he wants from youon a more casual basis without having to emotionally invest in spending the night.

Nmeshed · 06/03/2025 09:11

“I assumed he'd want me to stay over.
He asked how long was I able to spend with him and I said I could stay over head back in the morning to take over at home.”

For me, if a man assumed I would be staying over because I had a free night I might feel a bit weird. I would expect him to ask me if I fancied staying over, not just assume I would because he wanted me to.

BeesAndCrumpets · 06/03/2025 09:27

Good luck, today OP. Flowers

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