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Please help me unpick this insulting 'compliment'

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KnackeredOldCatLady · 03/03/2025 09:32

Have been dating a guy for about three months. We are both in our 50s and I am a couple of years older than him. All is (or rather, was) going well. We met via OLD.

The other day, he said these words to me:
'When I first saw you on our first date, I thought you looked old and that put me off. I then spent our date wondering if I could have a relationship with someone who looks so old. However, now that I have got to know you, I actually think that you look young. Younger than me in fact'.

He actually meant this as a compliment and was surprised that I was upset. Very upset.

And BTW, after our first date, he was very keen to snog me and pin me down for an early second date (asked if he could see me the next day).

So WTF????? Is this a LTB offence?

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Lampzade · 03/03/2025 11:36

KnackeredOldCatLady · 03/03/2025 09:48

Thanks for this @LittleGreenDragons

I'm certainly not drop dead gorgeous by any stretch of the imagination, but I'm slim, look after my skin and make an effort to dress nicely.

He is overweight, balding and has a couple of health issues which are likely to have been brought on by poor diet/lack of exercise.

He’s fat/ balding and is aware that he is punching with you. He wants to keep you in your place so that he can control you
I would have said to him, ‘ I thought that you were fat, but you are not as fat as I thought ‘
I am petty like that
Seriously Op, do yourself a favour and get rid of this idiot

sugarspiceandeverythingnice12 · 03/03/2025 11:39

KnackeredOldCatLady · 03/03/2025 10:48

@Kingblue Yes, I have indeed had sex with this prince among men. If I was feeling generous, I'd describe it as mediocre (and let's just say that he isn't overendowed in the manly department .....)

As he appreciates honesty, I'd explain that you're ending the relationship as he is too fat and his penis is too small

I think he's negging as he has sussed that you have low confidence

Give him something to think about

PointySnoot · 03/03/2025 11:39

Once upon a time, you'd meet someone for a first date, and you'd be on your best behaviour. If you were potentially interested in them, you'd want to make a good impression, find nice things to say to help them feel comfortable with you - and hopefully they'd think you were nice and be potentially interested in you as well.

This bloke seems to have forgotten this - and at his age he's certainly old enough to remember dating 'norms' pre-Tinder et al. When you dump him I'd be tempted to remind him of that.

KnackeredOldCatLady · 03/03/2025 11:40

rubberduck68 · 03/03/2025 11:31

Does he usually message to say he's missing you?

Yes, quite a lot. Even if we have only parted company the previous day.

Guess he must have a fetish for bunions.

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rubberduck68 · 03/03/2025 11:40

Spooky2000 · 03/03/2025 10:42

It's always the entitled fat old farts who seem to think we should be looking like someone from sex and the city, which is one of the recent musings I made on here. Cheeky bastard. 😠None of them seem to take a realistic look in the mirror and work on themselves, but as women we're meant to 'look pretty'! It absolutely infuriates me. This is one of the reasons I refuse to date any more. I'm also in the 'drop him' consensus party.

Edited

I had one use the "sex and the city" dating rules on me on date number three; he actually referenced, "the three date rule, you know like Sex & the City", which is basically how you shag on date three. He was shovelling cheese & onion crisps into his fat gob in a sticky-floored pub when he said this to me. Nah.

KnackeredOldCatLady · 03/03/2025 11:41

rubberduck68 · 03/03/2025 11:40

I had one use the "sex and the city" dating rules on me on date number three; he actually referenced, "the three date rule, you know like Sex & the City", which is basically how you shag on date three. He was shovelling cheese & onion crisps into his fat gob in a sticky-floored pub when he said this to me. Nah.

Uuurgh - how revolting!

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Isthiswhatmenthink · 03/03/2025 11:42

KnackeredOldCatLady · 03/03/2025 11:40

Yes, quite a lot. Even if we have only parted company the previous day.

Guess he must have a fetish for bunions.

Honestly, you can do better than this. Please don’t give him the benefit of the doubt, the foundations of any relationship you might have are awful.

TwistedWonder · 03/03/2025 11:43

thepariscrimefiles · 03/03/2025 11:28

I've always wondered why even the most unattractive and mediocre men have the confidence to expect the most beautiful, accomplished women to fall at their feet and to feel that they are in a position to criticise the physical attributes of attractive women that don't meet their extremely unrealistic standards.

Oh to have the self confidence and sense of entitlement of a middle aged white man. The worlds most deluded group in society

Themaths · 03/03/2025 11:44

KnackeredOldCatLady · 03/03/2025 11:04

And I've just remembered another one!

As previously mentioned, I'm slim now, but I used to be overweight. I lost three stone ten years ago and have managed to keep the weight off. I once mentioned this in passing to him and he said 'oh yes, I can see from your body that you have had a big weight loss'. Presumably the implication being that I'm saggy. Nice!

It's only been 12 weeks! Don't put up with this please. Your self esteem will be on the floor this time next year if you stay with him.

Sulu17 · 03/03/2025 11:44

Not that I want to be 'that' poster, and I know not all are the same but could he be autistic? I only mention this because my rude date told me he was autistic. I didn't mind until the critical comments started up and then just got more and more insulting and frequent. I did wonder how his ex coped with it all.

FeetLikeFlippers · 03/03/2025 11:45

KnackeredOldCatLady · 03/03/2025 10:41

The date ended on a subdued note and he has since messaged several times to ask when we can meet again. He has also messaged to say that he is missing me.

I haven't yet replied, as I want some time to think. I don't normally condone ghosting, but maybe this situation warrants it

Negging followed by love-bombing, huh? What a cliche this man is.

TriathlonTriathlonTriathlon · 03/03/2025 11:45

Why is it the older men get the more they seem to comment on women's appearance? I see it all the time where fat, blading potatoes over 50 are hitting on slim attractive women in their 40s/50s. I've been hit on a few times recently (I'm in my 30s and married to a younger man) by men who I wouldn't look twice at, but they were confident as anything assuming I would reciprocate! One had a giant beer belly. This doesn't come from men in their 20s/30s...

If he's pointing out your imperfections, I suggest you point out the fact he is overweight, unhealthy and bald and then dump?

NorthernSpirit · 03/03/2025 11:45

There’s a reason he’s in his 50’s and single.

Tell him to take his honesty and shove it. You deserve so much better.

Marmiteontoastgirlie · 03/03/2025 11:46

He’s manipulative, even if it’s subconscious - what he is trying to do is make you feel like other people think you look old but HE in all his wisdom can see how you look young. Ie you’ll have to stick with him as only he will love you. It’s nothing to do with how you look and just a manipulative trick - I’m sure more would come out if you kept seeing him.

Trumptonagain · 03/03/2025 11:47

'When I first saw you on our first date, I thought you looked old and that put me off. I then spent our date wondering if I could have a relationship with someone who looks so old. However, now that I have got to know you, I actually think that you look young. Younger than me in fact'.

Bit slow off the mark there should have replied "oddly enough I was thinking the same about you, and as you have just verified you do look old we may as well end it here".

TheAmusedQuail · 03/03/2025 11:47

My ex said to me (early on), 'You could get those varicose veins fixed you know.' I replied, 'You could get a nose job and a facelift, but here we are.'

Guess who was offended?

KnackeredOldCatLady · 03/03/2025 11:48

Trumptonagain · 03/03/2025 11:47

'When I first saw you on our first date, I thought you looked old and that put me off. I then spent our date wondering if I could have a relationship with someone who looks so old. However, now that I have got to know you, I actually think that you look young. Younger than me in fact'.

Bit slow off the mark there should have replied "oddly enough I was thinking the same about you, and as you have just verified you do look old we may as well end it here".

Brilliant! Wish I could have thought of that

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BansheeOfTheSouth · 03/03/2025 11:48

KnackeredOldCatLady · 03/03/2025 09:48

Thanks for this @LittleGreenDragons

I'm certainly not drop dead gorgeous by any stretch of the imagination, but I'm slim, look after my skin and make an effort to dress nicely.

He is overweight, balding and has a couple of health issues which are likely to have been brought on by poor diet/lack of exercise.

What do you see in him? He sounds unattractive and insulting.

Worryworrierworrying · 03/03/2025 11:49

Cloverforever · 03/03/2025 09:38

Look up negging. Sounds like a classic example to me.

This - and it’s his issue and yes one to throw back

MissDoubleU · 03/03/2025 11:49

He’s negging. He knows he’s not that great himself, he knows he doesn’t have much to offer in the bedroom either. Hes otherwise very polite because otherwise you wouldn’t even consider staying, but bringing your confidence down by pointing out any flaws he can so you feel lucky to have him.

You’re not lucky to have him. You know in your heart you’d be settling if you stayed. There are plenty lovely men out there who will treat you like a Queen and build your confidence UP.

GameofPhones · 03/03/2025 11:50

Lurkingandlearning · 03/03/2025 09:45

If he really thought that was a compliment he is a moron.

The only reason you should see him again is to sit opposite him, guiltily explain you hadn’t worn your glasses when you met him before, while taking a pair from your handbag. Put them on. Look at him. Gag/ dry heave. Then leave.

Brilliant.

wfhwfh · 03/03/2025 11:50

Oh this maddens me! You are slim and well-dressed and he is overweight and balding but feels the need to make a big deal of you being a few years’ older.

Obviously it’s fine for men to be overweight and balding- but they need some self-awareness before they take it upon themselves to criticise .

And the weight-loss comment is even worse.

All I can say, OP, is I hope he’s got money! 🤪

Blackkittenfluff · 03/03/2025 11:51

Ghost and block.

That prick needs to be thrown back in the sea.

FictionalCharacter · 03/03/2025 11:52

Sparkletastic · 03/03/2025 09:38

3 months of best behaviour then the negging has started to keep you in your place. I'd end it over that.

Exactly.
@KnackeredOldCatLady He absolutely did not mean it as a compliment. He’s playing games with you. He wasn’t “genuinely surprised” that you were upset. He was trying to make you the one in the wrong, for being upset, instead of him being wrong for saying something so crass.
If you were to keep seeing him, he’d escalate this, throwing backhanded compliments and veiled insults your way and then acting all innocent, so that you doubt your own reaction. Dump the loser now and be on the alert for negging next time you start seeing someone regularly.

KnackeredOldCatLady · 03/03/2025 11:53

BansheeOfTheSouth · 03/03/2025 11:48

What do you see in him? He sounds unattractive and insulting.

To be fair, he's tall and good looking, despite the overweight and lack of hair, and is very good company.

But I'm coming to the realisation that the negatives outweigh the positives

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