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Pressured by new man (TW: sa?)

126 replies

Kittylechat · 14/02/2025 07:04

Yesterday I went round to the house of a man I’ve been seeing so that we could spend some time together. I’ve known him a long time and always thought he was a good man. It was clear before I went round that I wasn’t going to be having sex with him and that only kissing was on the cards. He said he was happy with that and respected my decision.

Our meet up initially went well- I won’t go into all the details of what went on as it would make this too long- however, I left his house yesterday feeling unsettled, a feeling that grew over the evening, and I’ve woken this morning feeling very upset.

There were a number of things that are bothering me:

Whilst kissing he kept getting his penis out and asking me to kiss it. I said no, he said ok, and then minutes later he’d be saying it again. This happened repeatedly (5-10 times) during the couple of hours we were together. Even though I didn’t do it, I felt very pressured to give him oral sex.

Whilst we were kissing he kept trying to put his hand inside my knickers. I kept saying no and stop, and pushing his hand away with my hand. At one point he grabbed my hand and held it tightly so that I couldn’t stop him from putting his fingers inside me. He was so rough that I’m now swollen between my legs and I have period type crampy pain across my lower body and lower back.

We laid down together kissing, with him on top. Both wearing clothes. He got his penis out and pushed it against my knickers and asked if he could pull my knickers to one side and hold himself against my vagina. I said no and again he tried to just do it. I said no again and he kept trying to do it. I said stop repeatedly and tried to stop him with my hand and again he grabbed my hand to prevent me from stopping him. He then forced his penis quickly inside me- I wasn’t expecting it or lubricated enough and it caused me to cry out in shock. He withdrew immediately and made a joke out of it and said it didn't count because he only entered me briefly. He said he just wanted to know what it felt like being inside me.

Anyway, as I drove home I felt unsettled as he has been so lovely, kind and caring outside of this incident. I spoke to him on the phone last night about it and said I was upset and explained why. He got very upset and apologetic, but then said that saying no at a time when you’re both sexually aroused isn’t the same as saying no before you initiate sexual contact. I disagreed with him and he seemed confused about where I was coming from. I said I’d been clear before we met and during our time together and he’d ignored that. He also said I’d been giving mixed messages because I was kissing him and he knew I wanted to have sex with him. I said again that I’d made it clear before we met what I wasn’t going to be doing and I was also clear during our time together as I kept saying no and stop, and pushing his hand away.

Anyway, we cleared the air last night and he felt bad and kept apologising and saying he’d never do anything to hurt me. However, I slept really badly last night and I woke at 5am today really upset about yesterday. But I’m not sure if I’m overreacting. He kept making jokes about how much I wanted him and he could tell I wanted to have sex with him, and it was what we’d both wanted. And now I’m thinking I’ve just messed up and shouldn’t have muddied the waters by being alone with him or kissing him. Or I should have just left when he first started pressuring me. I knew I was uncomfortable but yet I stayed.

My head is a mess now and I feel terrible because of yesterday, and terrible that I’ve upset him. But I’m also upset that he kept ignoring what I was saying and pressuring me, plus he penetrated me without my permission and without wearing a condom or knowing whether I was on birth control.

The whole thing seems a mess and I can’t think straight. I feel I’ve done something wrong and now he’s upset as well.

OP posts:
RainbowSlimeLab · 14/02/2025 07:10

Sorry to be blunt but he raped you. Please don’t see him again.

RainbowSlimeLab · 14/02/2025 07:12

And ignore his faux upset. He just wants to guilt you into sex. Which is abuse. If you feel able, please report to the Police. Nothing will happen but it will be on file.

ilovelamp82 · 14/02/2025 07:12

You most definitely have not done something wrong. You were raped. Do not feel bad for him. He is a rapist. Stay away from this dangerous man. I am sorry you had to go through this. I'm sorry I don't have any more advice, hopefully someone will come along with someone you can call to discuss this and get your head straight. Do you have any of this written via text message or was it all said in person over the phone? I ask this, because it could be used as evidence if you decided to go that route.

I am so sorry this happened to you. Don't let him change the story and make you doubt yourself. This is a bad man.

Dotty87 · 14/02/2025 07:17

Oh he's a piece of shit, he assaulted and raped you, and now he's gaslighting you into overlooking it. You can't "clear the air" after this, please don't go near him again, and I'd consider reporting it to the police.

PaigeMac · 14/02/2025 07:18

I’m so sorry OP, you’ve done nothing wrong.
He raped you. It’s as simple as that 💐

BookGoblin · 14/02/2025 07:23

So sorry this happened OP.

We believe you.

None of it was your fault.

Please contact the police and good friend or relative for support.

Isthisit22 · 14/02/2025 07:27

im so sorry he raped you. Please don’t see him again and if you feel you can report it. Sending hugs

sugarspiceandeverythingnice12 · 14/02/2025 07:32

Hes disgusting and vile

He raped you and if you feel you can you could report him to the police

Please ring

rapecrisis.org.uk/get-help/support-and-services/counselling/

They will help you

Please NEVER EVER EVER see or speak to this man again

unsync · 14/02/2025 07:32

That's rape. If you feel able to, please report it to the Police. There are support resources available to you, please contact them for help. https://247sexualabusesupport.org.uk/ This is not your fault, you were quite clear that you did not give consent.

24/7 Rape and Sexual Abuse Support Line

Did something sexual happen to you without your consent? Or you're not sure? No matter when or where it happened, we are here for you.

https://247sexualabusesupport.org.uk

category12 · 14/02/2025 07:34

Of course it counted.

He's gaslighting you and he raped you.

Please don't see him again.

You could consider reporting him, but obviously it's massively stressful and may not go anywhere.

You could speak to Rape Crisis for support.

Pipsquiggle · 14/02/2025 07:36

Just awful OP.
Don't see him again
Don't let him minimise what he did to you.
You said 'no' and he did it anyway.

JustCuttinAboot · 14/02/2025 07:38

This was a sexual assault, and I am very sorry it happened to you.

I would never spend time with him again. And if you wanted to, it would be entirely appropriate to report it to the police.

Janelle84 · 14/02/2025 07:40

Get rid. What a creep

username299 · 14/02/2025 07:40

I'm really sorry to hear what happened. What he did was non consensual sex or rape. You can contact Rape Crisis to discuss what happened.

I'm very concerned as you seem confused about consent. It doesn't matter if you're doing a naked fan dance in front of someone, no one has a right to touch you in any way without your consent. I would go further and say enthusiastic consent.

He was pushing your boundaries and sexually assaulting you for most of your time together. He's not a good person as he knows that, please don't contact him again.

I would make an urgent GP appointment and get an STD test, a check up and tell your Dr what happened so you have evidence should you wish to take this further.💐

NestaArcheron · 14/02/2025 07:41

You didn't do anything wrong op - this is rape. I'm so sorry x

Oneflightdown · 14/02/2025 07:42

Having supported a friend who was raped by her now-ex partner (like you, she struggled initially to believe it "really was rape") I would strongly encourage you to contact Rape Crisis (linked above) TODAY. Though she didn't want to report her rapist at first she now wishes that she had had a rape kit done at the time and had as much evidence collected as possible. No one will pressure you to report him to the police but if you decide down the line that you want to do that then the report to the rape centre can be filed with them. They will be able to treat your injuries and support you.

StasisMom · 14/02/2025 07:52

Rape isn't just in dark alleyways by strangers. I'm so sorry and all the above are correct.

Summerhillsquare · 14/02/2025 07:56

He's not confused, don't consider his feelings any further. He knows he's a rapist.

Kittylechat · 14/02/2025 07:58

I was confused because he was down playing it and joking, but then would start crying. And it made me feel bad for even bringing it up with him. I know you're all right. I feel sick.

OP posts:
bifurCAT · 14/02/2025 07:58

Report to the police and be honest with him. At the moment, he THINKS he's still a nice guy who just tried to push the limits because he misread the signals.

You need to wake him up. Tell him you're not seeing him again because you explicitly told him no, he still tried, and yoy told him many times in the moment no. Tell him that is rape, and as a result you never want to see him again.

IsItSummerSoon · 14/02/2025 08:00

I’m so sorry this happened to you. Please realise that you have an inner voice that you should really trust. Your gut reaction, your feeling of being unsettled, is ‘you’ warning yourself things are not right. You were so right not to ignore it. It’s there to keep you safe. He is not safe. Never ever go near him again. Never ever ignore those gut feelings!

BumpandBounce · 14/02/2025 08:00

You haven’t messed up. You did nothing wrong.

He sexually assaulted you.

You may not want to report him to the police but please don’t ever see him again. You don’t owe him an explanation, just block him and walk away.

A lot of your language suggests that you feel an element of guilt or shame. It’s normal to feel like that in confusing situations like this, but you must keep telling yourself that this was not your fault. If those feelings continue, please seek some professional help.

GarrynotsoGorilla · 14/02/2025 08:00

@Kittylechat I am so sorry you have been through this. Absolutely none of what happened is your fault. Do not feel sorry or upset for him. You have not misled him or sent the wrong signals, your behaviour was perfectly reasonable You were raped by him. His behaviour is at fault here not yours.
There is lots of good advice here, i hope that you are able to get the support you need to be able to deal with the overwhelming emotional weight of what you have experienced and move on. X

Ariesburn · 14/02/2025 08:01

Get rid. Block and never speak to him again. Disgusting behaviour when you had repeatedly said no and pushed him away!

username299 · 14/02/2025 08:02

bifurCAT · 14/02/2025 07:58

Report to the police and be honest with him. At the moment, he THINKS he's still a nice guy who just tried to push the limits because he misread the signals.

You need to wake him up. Tell him you're not seeing him again because you explicitly told him no, he still tried, and yoy told him many times in the moment no. Tell him that is rape, and as a result you never want to see him again.

He knows what he did, I would say that he's a sexual predator. He's trying to pretend he doesn't know so he can see the OP again for a repeat performance or she doesn't report him.

Most men know that you need consent.

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