Meet the Other Phone. Protection built in.

Meet the Other Phone.
Protection built in.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Relationships

Mumsnet has not checked the qualifications of anyone posting here. If you need help urgently or expert advice, please see our domestic violence webguide and/or relationships webguide. Many Mumsnetters experiencing domestic abuse have found this thread helpful: Listen up, everybody

AIBU to think that most relationships will end with an OVERLAP with a new relationship.

628 replies

morningpaper · 06/05/2008 21:47

I don't get this thing on MN whereby married people are expected to end marriages before embarking on other relationships.

This idea of people (except you always mean 'woman' ) being "slappers" if they enter relationships with married people makes me think lots of you have very little understanding of how relationships work.

  • To be blunt, I would be FAR more upset if DH left me for a lonely life as a single person in a bedsit than for a new relationship. I think the former is FAR more insulting. I have a close friend whose husband did this and it was MORTIFYING every time people said "Oh darlng, was there someone else?" and she had to say "No" (unspoken message: 'I am just too horrific to live with').
  • People need support when they end relationships - and that support often comes from a new relationship.
  • If people ended every marriage at the first sniff of new romance, or at the first feelings of dissatisfaction, then none of our relationships would last more than a year or two! It is often a new relationship that gives people the impetus to re-evaluate their lives.
  • Most relationships become very "stale" after a certain amount of time - society tells us we must WORK at our relationships after the desire has gone, but WHY? Why not just accept that our partners or ourselves might be MORE happy in a new relationships - we have changed and grown, after all.

I have several friends in relationships with married people - and I expect a lot of you do, too, but they probably don't tell you because you are so HORRIFIED at the idea. Such relationships generally end in a lot of DESPAIR but they are part of life.

When you talk about "ending relationships before starting new ones" it sounds to me just like people who talk about not having sex before marriage - a great ideal (perhaps), but not realistic for 99% of people.

OP posts:
WilyWombat · 07/05/2008 14:53

I would only ever believe someone had an open relationship if both parties told me - it is a line many men use.

I do think like Oliveoil that often one party is more into it than another, I have heard of people being coerced into it. I guess if both people are into it and it doesnt hurt anyone else then fair enough, why not - it really doesnt appeal to me.

dittany · 07/05/2008 14:56

This reply has been deleted

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

littlewoman · 07/05/2008 14:58

unquiet dad, but the rules are - no graph, no point made!

morningpaper · 07/05/2008 15:00

FGS why does everyone think I am having an affair!

I would not be on bloody MN all the time if I was

and I dread to think of the state my veg patch would be in

Fio, see my post of 08:42:31

OP posts:
justaboutdisappeared · 07/05/2008 15:01

This reply has been deleted

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

morningpaper · 07/05/2008 15:04

itcouldhappentoanyone: I'm sorry you feel so crap about yourself. But I'm not sure that you should. Coudl that sort of intense relationships not have developed with a woman? (I am assuming you dont' have sexual realtionships with women)

OP posts:
BrassicaNapusNapobrassica · 07/05/2008 15:04

My ex boss, who was engaged to be married/married, used to regularly proposition me. Next day he would apologise and blame the vino. One put up with that sort of nonsense in the 1980s without involving HR or an employment tribunal.

CombustibleLemon · 07/05/2008 15:04

Am sure you're not MP, but PMSL at the state of your 'veg patch'.

I thought fanjo was the accepted MN term

morningpaper · 07/05/2008 15:06

I would have to have a lover who came with free childcare

Where can I find one

OP posts:
morningpaper · 07/05/2008 15:06

dittany > Did she tell their wives?

No. Is that her job?

OP posts:
morningpaper · 07/05/2008 15:08

(I have just hoovered my patio. Do not possibly have affair time.)

OP posts:
BrassicaNapusNapobrassica · 07/05/2008 15:08

Perhaps private detectives have truly had their day. If you want reliable evidence of a love cheat look to the unkempt veg patch.

dittany · 07/05/2008 15:09

This reply has been deleted

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

CombustibleLemon · 07/05/2008 15:12

If I was having rampant extra-marital sex, I don't think I'd find time to dust the lampshades , so maybe add that to the danger signs.

Alexa808 · 07/05/2008 15:18

Since when are proposals by married men seedy? What's that word got to do with this thread?

Seriously, where you brought up by nuns or what??

BrassicaNapusNapobrassica · 07/05/2008 15:22

If a married man propositions anyone other than his wife, he has no principles. He presumably feels the woman he is propositioning has no principles either. It's not flattering - it's an insult.

dittany · 07/05/2008 15:24

This reply has been deleted

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

pagwatch · 07/05/2008 15:24

rolf at the idea that regarding a married man prpositioning another woman as 'seedy' means that you are an escapee from a convent!

dittany · 07/05/2008 15:25

This reply has been deleted

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

CombustibleLemon · 07/05/2008 15:28

From the free dictionary thesaurus:

"seedy - morally degraded; sordid, squalid, seamy, sleazy, disreputable - lacking respectability in character or behavior or appearance."

Ironically, the basic meaning is full of seed, which is also appropriate when talking about unfaithful husbands.

Idefixx · 07/05/2008 15:38

But madamez, it sounds to me like you do not not have (double negative?) a monogamous relationship, you do not have/do not want a relationship at all! That is very different from having an "open" relationship....isn't it?

And hence, no one gets hurt. Which is fine!

morningpaper · 07/05/2008 15:41

lol @ full of seed

I've never found being propositioned by any attractive man seedy TBH, perhaps that it just a sign of my moral degradation

OP posts:
dittany · 07/05/2008 15:43

This reply has been deleted

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

Idefixx · 07/05/2008 15:43

itcouldhappen: you walked away and realised it was wrong. What exactly are you ashamed of? That it happened at all? But it is a gradual process, isn't it? However, there comes a point where everyone can make a decision: do I proceed from here or not! It is at that point that I think you either have to stop (like you did) or end the existing relationship you have, because you believe you would be happier elsewhere and it is not worth staying...

dittany · 07/05/2008 15:44

This reply has been deleted

Message withdrawn at poster's request.