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Choosing between connection and the familiar/secure. WWYD?

107 replies

tinseltwon · 11/12/2024 17:43

I'm currently (8 months total) with a man who is lovely in so many ways. He's interesting with lots of strings to his bow, we can talk for hours and share many interests, he's good looking, good in bed, good with my dd (although she only knows him in a capacity as my 'friend' at the moment and he has been very patient about how I want to play the relationship in terms of my dd), caring - eg helps out in every way when he's at my house and sweet stuff like he always tucks me in if I fall asleep on the sofa, he brings me breakfast and coffee in bed when he stays, he drove a van 3 hours each way to help me pick up an eBay Xmas present for my dd last week. But. He's not very ambitious for himself. He doesn't own a property and all his assets are in investments/cash. He sees life as being for experiences so he will work for a few months in a lucrative contract role then take a few months off to travel or work on his projects, he has lived like this his whole adult life and he is now in his mid 40s. We are from very different backgrounds- me typical middle class with a good degree and traditional career, he from a working class bg and very much 'school of life'. As much as I love him, I feel like for some reason we might not work long term. I value stability, a partner who works a similar schedule to me and has similar goals and concerns. I like a nice house, nice holidays, but he couldn't really care about that stuff. It's painful because the more time I spend with this man, the more I miss my ex who had a very similar educational and professional background to me, he was dd's dad, we did a lot to our shared home and went on some awesome trips and had cool experiences over the years as we began to earn more as a couple. We broke up because I was feeling incredibly unfulfilled because on the flip side, my ex spent all his free time PC gaming and didn't enjoy conversation, wouldn't compromise with me on movies to watch and wasn't interested in what I had to say, kind of let me get on with things (including doing all the domestic load and childcare) but also was an excellent provider with really good earning potential. We also didn't have sex anymore. When we split I had to move to a lower cost of living area and I have missed my old home and my way of life almost every day since, even when things have been good with my new partner. I don't enjoy where I live, I am struggling financially and having survived a dirt poor childhood I deeply regret giving up my stability.

My ex has now asked me to come back and try again. He and dd miss each other as much as he and I miss each other. We were together for many years and compromised on our personality differences for a very comfortable mutually enjoyable life. My family all tell me how love is the answer and being able to connect and converse and share interests is the key to happiness but I have not been happier even having that with the new man, I just feel down about all I have lost. My life with this new man, if it progresses, I worry will be a smaller life. It sounds so harsh nd unfair, especially as the new man is so kind and has no idea ex has contacted me or that I am seriously considering going back to him. He would be absolutely devastated if we split. But for a number of reasons I won't go into, I know this is last chance saloon with my ex and that door is about to close forever. If I could teleport back to my old life right now without hurting the new man, I 100% would. A little voice in my head is telling me I would miss the new man desperately over time and that I would feel lonely and bored back in my old life, but I know there would be good things too.

How do I do this? I am so afraid of making the wrong choice. It really does feel like a choice between laughter/sex/conversation and money/stability. No one has any idea I am facing this dilemma and I feel pretty ashamed. It feels like if I was truly happier without my ex I would have got there by now, we broke up over a year ago. But I am so depressed these days I can barely get out of bed in the mornings. I think of my old home and life all the time and the opportunities there for DD were so much better. it seems like a no brainer... and yet, I will lose something really special.

Any thoughts on this.. I would really appreciate it.

OP posts:
mindutopia · 11/12/2024 19:58

Make your own money and create your own life. I wouldn’t be with someone who didn’t make me happy and laugh who already broke my heart just for some money. Your new partner sounds like he has a lot of potential to earn well if he wanted to buckle down. It sounds like he knows himself well and has been living the life he enjoys because he doesn’t have anyone depending on him, which is fair enough really. Your dd’s dad, who does have financial responsibilities to a dependent, has he been paying his way and making sure that his dd has the life she deserves. Or is he offering this only if you get back together? If he hasn’t been paying his way so far, I wouldn’t blow up your happy life for empty promises.

itsnotalwaysthateasy · 11/12/2024 22:25

You and the new man don't have the same values. I think you'd be better off ending this relationship as he's not what you truly want. It's not secure enough for you.
Never go back to an ex. It didn't work out the first time, it wont work out the second.

MyrtleStrumpet · 11/12/2024 22:29

New man is very exciting but he craves new experiences. You might be something good for now but not for always. People don't change.

Ex is comfortable and support but he isn't an active participant. People don't change.

Spend as much time enjoying good for now until one of you stops. Be clear that it is just good for now and not longterm.

Find someone as attentive as good for now and as stable as your ex.

theduchessofspork · 11/12/2024 22:30

I wouldn't go back to your ex - you split up for a reason. It sounds like this new guy isn't what you want either, so I'd finish up with him and start dating - being very clear eyed on what you want and only dating guys who fit that spec -, and in the meantime focus hard on increasing my income..

Jazzjazzjazz · 11/12/2024 22:39

How can you simultaneously have a middle class background and also a dirt poor childhood, you said you come from different backgrounds, and that’s he’s working class, so I don’t really get it.

Maybe try being alone if you have to pick between two guys and can’t decide, as that strongly indicates that neither of them are the one for you

Glitterykitty · 12/12/2024 04:49

It's a very tricky situation. I can relate. My exDH and I separated a year ago - he was a good provider, responsible, loyal, good dad to our kids, we used to enjoy watching films together. But he was also moody, stressed and depressed a lot of the time, left all the domestic load to me, didn't seem interested in me as a person, didn't like holidays, no physical intimacy etc.

I've now met a guy where there is chemistry, love and emotional connection, fun, shared interests etc (all the things I was missing with exDH). But this new guy also seems enjoy other women's company a bit too much, and has spent his adult life travelling around different countries and working sporadically. He doesn't have a house. No kids or long term relationships. He says he now wants to settle down now he is older but I'm thinking can he really change that much?

Like you, my exDH and I had similar backgrounds, but not this new guy.

I don't really have any advice as clearly I'm also wondering what I should do about my situation! But I'm coming to the difficult conclusion, as some PPs have suggested too about your situation, that maybe neither of the two guys is the right one...

pinkdelight · 12/12/2024 05:25

Don't go back to the ex. You left for several reasons and those won't change even if he makes an effort short term. It will just confuse your DD to go back and then have it not work out again.

New man sounds good for the time being. Does it have to be forever or can you lousy enjoy the good company, good sex etc for now? It's been less than a year and you don't have to go all in on loving him and expecting it to be everything you need. You may both move on if the incompatibilities are too much but it won't impact your dd if you're managing it as well as it sounds.

Don't let your ex mess up what sounds like a decent relationship just because he's decided he wants you back. He didn't change when he had the chance and perhaps his wish is not unconnected to the fact you're enjoying someone else now.

If you don't want to be with the newish guy, split up and be alone for a while longer, see if someone comes along with more similar values. But keep moving forward not backwards.

I also didn't understand the dirt poor but middle class anomaly.

Loopytiles · 12/12/2024 05:25

Wouldn’t go back to ex when he treated you like that. Your main motivation for doing so seems to be money and lifestyle, which isn’t enough. You should assume that the issues that were there before would continue.

doesn’t sound like you want to continue the relationship with your new partner. Your concern about the economic disparity and his financial stability is sensible but would be manageable if you were really into him.

pinkdelight · 12/12/2024 05:26

(Don't know where the lousy came from - should say just!)

BoxOfCats · 12/12/2024 08:43

It doesn't sound like you should be with either of them!
You don't sound happy with new man, and ex definitely has some red flags - what makes you think anything will be different to what it was before you left?

There are plenty more fish in the sea.

Dweetfidilove · 12/12/2024 08:53

You can have fun with the new man until it no longer works. Don't get too attached, as it sounds like he'll be chasing something new at some point anyway.

Do not go back to your ex though, as that's quite the gilded cage. For all his education, house and good job / lifestyle, it sounds like he'd suck out of anyone he's with. He sounds excruciatingly dull and disengaged.

Llamapolice · 12/12/2024 08:53

It's not going to work long term between you and the new man, you have different values and want different things from life. Neither of you is right or wrong, just wrong for each other.

I'm only in favour of going back to an ex if it's clear that they (or you) have made & sustained changes that would make it different this time around. I don't see any evidence that you've even explored this with him in your post? You broke up because he was gaming all the time and didn't support you with domestic load, has he even accepted he needs to do it differently this time? Has he stopped gaming for example?

I don't think either of these men are the one for you.

MaybeALittle · 12/12/2024 09:01

Neither of these men, OP. Definitely don’t return to your ex. Your nostalgia for him is clearly only to do with money, stability and the ease of shared bills — there is literally nothing in your post to suggest you miss the actual personal relationship. Unsurprisingly, as he sounds godawful, and you don’t mention that he’s changed. Has he given you an ultimatum or something? ‘Come back to me this side of Christmas or I’m shacking up with Claire from Accounts in the New Year?’

I don’t see why you shouldn’t continue your relationship with your current boyfriend in the short term, while recognising your differences. Or, if that doesn’t work for you, end it and find someone else.

Stormyweatheroutthere · 12/12/2024 09:07

You have rose tinted specs on regarding your ex... He wasn't good enough first time. Why are you not seeing him the same cunty way? I took and ex back. Been apart 6 months. Got back together and married 10 weeks later.. He lasted a fortnight.. Back to twat.. Divorced a year in... Don't fall for it op. Maybe start appreciating your new man for being himself...

gannett · 12/12/2024 09:10

my ex spent all his free time PC gaming and didn't enjoy conversation, wouldn't compromise with me on movies to watch and wasn't interested in what I had to say, kind of let me get on with things (including doing all the domestic load and childcare) but also was an excellent provider with really good earning potential. We also didn't have sex anymore.

Oh my god don't go back to your ex. You broke up with him for very good reasons. A comfortable lifestyle isn't worth being miserable and stifled because you've compromised your own personality.

You don't have to make a long-term decision about the new man. Personally I think he sounds great and it might be worth being open to his less materialistic world view. There's always a middle way between his totally carefree life and the stability you want - if he's able to get lucrative contracts when he needs them, he obviously has the ability to earn well. At some point it's worth having a conversation about it - how, as a mother, you need a bit more stability than he presently desires. And then you'll either be able to work out a common goal together or it'll come to a natural end (but you've had a good time in the meantime).

category12 · 12/12/2024 10:21

None of the issues you had with your ex are resolved so if you go back, you're choosing that life, which wasn't enough for you.

With added resentment/distrust between you. While he might just be glad to have you back to start with, once the shine of reunion wears off, don't you think it'll be a shadow on your lives together? Things are likely to revert back to what they were before, and possibly worse.

If you're depressed, maybe get some help and counselling and figure out some stuff.

I don't really think a year is long enough to regain equilibrium. Doing it on your own can be hard, but not sure going back is the answer.

Bittenonce · 12/12/2024 10:48

Tbh you sound very materialistic and shallow. You’d like to teleport back to a sexless marriage with no conversation, care or shared interests, because you’d have a nicer house and holidays? Get over yourself

RenoDakota · 12/12/2024 11:32

What sort of a place does the new man live in?
He sounds like an annoying flake, btw. And the ex sounds no better, but for different reasons.

AnneLovesGilbert · 12/12/2024 11:48

Is the nicer house really worth being a skivvy to a gaming addict and no sex life?

Crushed23 · 12/12/2024 11:57

AnneLovesGilbert · 12/12/2024 11:48

Is the nicer house really worth being a skivvy to a gaming addict and no sex life?

This.

Also agree with first post - make your money and don't allow yourself to become financially dependent on a man.

How old is DD? Can you work more hours / go for promotion to increase your earnings?

housemaus · 12/12/2024 11:58

Your life with your ex - no sex, always gaming, personality differences, didn't do his share of housework or childcare, wouldn't compromise, left you feeling unfulfilled - sounds rubbish. I wouldn't trade financial stability for that, no.

Equally, I don't think you and your current partner are right for each other - you're clearly not that into him if you're thinking of jacking him in for your ex and you seem to look down on him despite him apparently having 'assets and investments' and living an enviably adventurous and interesting life, and I think long term your goal of stable settled sensible doesn't really match his of being able to live a bit more in the moment.

This isn't an either/or choice - you can choose neither. And neither sound like the ideal option, honestly.

(Also, agreed with the PP - in one paragraph you grew up middle class and another you were dirt poor. Which is it?)

Crushed23 · 12/12/2024 12:03

Another thing - you say you broke up with your ex a year ago and you've been dating the new guy for 8 months.

Do you think you jumped into a new relationship too soon? Are you someone who is afraid of being single?

Maybe take some time out for yourself, get to know yourself better and what it is you want out of a life partner. I don't think your ex nor the new guy sound like a good match.

GogAndMagog · 12/12/2024 12:10

Be single. You are placing too much on a partner fulfilling some kind of gap in you.

Work hard, get promoted, rely on yourself. If a man comes along who adds value to your life, nice.

GogAndMagog · 12/12/2024 12:11

Your ex just wants his skivvy back.

AnneLovesGilbert · 12/12/2024 12:16

What’s the stuff about the door closing on a second chance with your ex? Is he seeing someone else or about to?

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