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My husband has left me I'm devastated

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Lemonsandlemonade · 21/11/2024 00:47

My husband of ten years and in a relationship with for 20 years has decided tonight that he is no longer in love with me and wants to leave me.

All he can say is that he no longer wants to be with me but loves me. He swears and I believe that there is nobody else.

I have no idea of next steps. We have a mortgage.

we have a beautiful three year old together and now I have to tell him that daddy and mummy no longer are together.

my world is broken.

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Rosscameasdoody · 21/11/2024 10:54

Quicklyquicklyslowly · 21/11/2024 10:48

Well I think OP has every right to be angry: they have been in a relationship for 20 years and yet her DH didn't talk to her about how he was feeling. Didn't raise any issues with her. Just internalised it and dropped the bombshell on her that he is no longer " in love " with her. And then expects her to get on with life as normal. That is on a different level from " saying the wrong thing". What couples are " in love" after 20 years? Usually love has morphed into a different type of love after that length of time.

Not only has OP every right to be angry her anger will protect her. Because what are the alternatives: Either to fall apart or for her to internalise her hurt and try and act normally and suffer the consequences later to her mental health.

Anger is a great motivator and OP needs motivation to secure the best future she can for herself and her son.

I agree with you, but it should be noted that she said their marriage has had it’s problems, and without knowing the specifics it’s hard to know what has been voiced and what hasn’t.

isthesolution · 21/11/2024 10:54

EuclidianGeometryFan · 21/11/2024 10:49

IT DOES NOT MATTER IF THERE IS ANOTHER WOMAN OR NOT
THAT IS IRRELEVANT

OP - don't waste time thinking about if there is OW
Don't go snooping for evidence. It doesn't matter because it won't change anything.

Put a steel cage around your heart for now, and get hard-headed.
You can cry all you like later. But you have to take action now, while he if off-guard.

At the moment he is ten steps ahead of you emotionally. You need to get ahead practically.
Don't let him know you are getting ahead.

This man is not your friend. You cannot trust him. You definitely cannot trust him to be "fair" in the divorce. Sadly, many men try to hide money and assets, to cheat their wives and children.

Go and look for the following, and make copies or take photos.

His payslips, and P60's, or if he is self employed his business accounts.
His bank statements including any savings accounts
His pension documents
Evidence of the cost of any big assets, such as purchase price of cars, watches, equipment for sports or hobbies.
Proof of the money you put in for a deposit on the house, and have put in to any expensive improvements to the house, such as extensions.
Proof of how much you have been paying for the mortgage and household costs.
Obvs this will depend on how your finances are set up, e.g. whether the mortgage comes out of a joint current account.

That is all you have to do for now.
Then you can wait, and see what he does next.

This is good advice!

Get everything in place. You may never need it but if you do it's better to be prepared.

Then don't do anything - let him deal with all the practicalities. If he wants to leave/divorce/etc then just let him get on with the organisation of that.

Pippinsdiary · 21/11/2024 10:56

momtoboys · 21/11/2024 01:31

I’m so sorry. This must be such a shock. There is another person involved.

Can we stop this? It’s likely there is another women BUT it’s not always the case. There’s no need to convince the OP of this when non of us no and it doesn’t need to keep being repeated.

It is possible to fall out of love with someone and leave.

I’m sorry OP, I can’t imagine how you are feeling Flowers

RunningOutOfImaginitiveUsernames · 21/11/2024 10:57

NewGreenDuck · 21/11/2024 10:23

How many of you have sons?
How many of you have adult sons?
If your son said he was very unhappy in his marriage what would you advise?
Would you give different advice to a daughter?
Look, I don't know anything more about this marriage than anyone else. Yes the OP is in absolute turmoil and distress. But why does every thread have to end with the man being a complete bastard?
And how many times do you tell the woman to leave if she is unhappy?

If your son or daughter said they were unhappy (unless in an abusive relationship) would you not suggest they try counselling first before breaking up a family and 20 year relationship? Suggest communicating whatever the issue is?

Would you advise your son or daughter to tell their spouse to basically 'get on with it' the day after dropping a bombshell?

I'd be pretty disgusted with my adult child if they showed so little empathy and expected their spouse still to live with them just to make their own lives easier after blindsiding their partner.

Note also he has told their DS he is staying at his DMs until Monday with no mention of him doing any childcare. Presumably the OP will have to be doing all the parenting while dealing with this massive shock. So no, none of these things I would advise my children.

fearfulworrier · 21/11/2024 10:59

Lemonsandlemonade · 21/11/2024 09:54

I'm not depressed I feel numb extremely low due to circumstances. My life has been completely and utterly blindsided. I hate myself because how can I be lovable.

I know I have a lovely DS am lucky in that regard but I have no strength.

I accidentally text my DM so she knows now.

Edited

My DH left me when my dd was about 2.5 like your DH things with his mood had been off for a while but his work was busy, her behaviour wasn’t the best, we were stuck in a tiny flat trying to move house.Our dd was ivf too - puts so much strain on any relationship. Like you I just knew there wasn’t another woman, everyone on here said there was. I get that this is often the case but not always. I am not religious although brought up in the Catholic Church. One of the first things I did was go see the priest and I swear he made me feel a million times better. It was not my fault, my child and I would both be fine. I grew strong - you will too. You will have bad or sad moments but you will find a strength you never expected and pull through for the sake of your son.

In the end it turned out my DH was having a breakdown. I got really concerned at one point and called my sil (which speaks volumes). We were separated for 8 months all in. We have been back together for over 5 years and never actually been happier. Take some time, breathe and think. If this is genuinely out of character, you are 100% sure there is no ow could he be going through some mental health struggles. Not being the ‘biological’ dad may have a lot to do with that which is so sad as he sounds like he has a lovely relationship with ds.

Rosscameasdoody · 21/11/2024 11:00

RebelliousStarrChild · 21/11/2024 10:21

Not a comfort, but it may stop you wasting your time wondering what you could have done to save your marriage or feeling that maybe it's your fault.

OP has said repeatedly she’s sure there is no other woman. The fact that he’s suggested they stay together for their child bears this out to some extent. And if there really isn’t another woman OP would be focused on the wrong thing instead of processing what’s in front of her, which is a totally different set of emotions than the response to being cheated on. Encouraging her to look for something that probably isn’t there, instead of the reality really isn’t helpful.

Calliopespa · 21/11/2024 11:01

BluePapillon · 21/11/2024 10:44

I’m sorry OP. Whether there is another woman or not, him suddenly pulling the rug out from under you and trying to make you carry the burden by just shutting up and getting on with life - vs being naturally upset and forcing him to confront the reality of the pain he’s just caused - is cowardly on his part.

There were many other ways he could have chosen to do this, including talking about how he was feeling and looking at counselling etc, particularly as you have a child together.

You are lovable, don’t let this make you think otherwise.

Edited

Read this post op, and forget about the pontificating about how marriages should end, whether people should or shouldn’t warn you he might have a gf, and know that, whatever is going on with him, you have had a vicious blindside which will naturally take time to gather your strength from.

You are strong, you are lovable, and you will move through this whatever the current unknowables are.

PureBoggin · 21/11/2024 11:01

Quicklyquicklyslowly · 21/11/2024 10:48

Well I think OP has every right to be angry: they have been in a relationship for 20 years and yet her DH didn't talk to her about how he was feeling. Didn't raise any issues with her. Just internalised it and dropped the bombshell on her that he is no longer " in love " with her. And then expects her to get on with life as normal. That is on a different level from " saying the wrong thing". What couples are " in love" after 20 years? Usually love has morphed into a different type of love after that length of time.

Not only has OP every right to be angry her anger will protect her. Because what are the alternatives: Either to fall apart or for her to internalise her hurt and try and act normally and suffer the consequences later to her mental health.

Anger is a great motivator and OP needs motivation to secure the best future she can for herself and her son.

Anger is one of the natural emotions that all people going through grief will inevitably experience. But it is the least helpful and the one most likely to cause longer term harm to the future of their co-parenting relationship and ultimately to their child. Op will feel all of the feeling on her own. She doesn't need encouragement to "find her anger" if that is not how she is currently or naturally feeling.

You said

Because what are the alternatives: Either to fall apart or for her to internalise her hurt and try and act normally and suffer the consequences later to her mental health.

The alternative is to look at the situation from all angles. To examine her and her partner's feelings with empathy and understanding. To move away from the toxicity of blame and retribution. If she feels she is getting stuck in any of her feelings to seek help from a professional to move through them and not allow them to affect her relationships. It is not an either/or situation. The OP can absolutely feel hurt, sadness, even anger but they DONT have to drive her actions.

The most mentally unhealthy people I know are those who have let anger and blame drive their relationships with people and who lives in conflict every day. There is lots and lots of research that shows that children can thrive in separated households but only where there is no conflict.

Ivegotaboneinmyleg · 21/11/2024 11:02

I am so sorry OP. I have read the whole thread and, although I have no additional advice to offer, just wanted to post and send you some strength vibes. 🌸

Lavenderfarmcottage · 21/11/2024 11:02

Well done op for shifting into ‘take charge mode’. I think sitting in bed crying at this very early stage is part of the process and perfectly OK. Cry and cleanse him out of your system.

Your next steps are preparing how to inform those very close to you. Start looking for a counsellor that is affordable. Seek legal advice from a pro bono or women’s legal service. Join an online community or a Facebook group to ask anonymous questions - one for women in your situation - they will offer lots of good practical advice. Find a good podcast on separating and the emotional aspect. Cry in the shower and when your child is at school but do try to keep yourself busy and getting on with things and in a routine at other times. Keep walking and exercising and eating well - do not get swept up in this crisis.
Try to out funds in your bank account with only your name and access where you can - perhaps worth a trip to the bank.

Going forward please remember that anyone who could leave you alone with a 3 year old without properly working on the relationship or giving proper closure or addressing issues, is not someone you can trust. He’s made a decision to not be in your team and so from
now on put a wall up, don’t ‘telegraph your punches’ and start getting your “war chest” together.

Lavenderfarmcottage · 21/11/2024 11:05

fearfulworrier · 21/11/2024 10:59

My DH left me when my dd was about 2.5 like your DH things with his mood had been off for a while but his work was busy, her behaviour wasn’t the best, we were stuck in a tiny flat trying to move house.Our dd was ivf too - puts so much strain on any relationship. Like you I just knew there wasn’t another woman, everyone on here said there was. I get that this is often the case but not always. I am not religious although brought up in the Catholic Church. One of the first things I did was go see the priest and I swear he made me feel a million times better. It was not my fault, my child and I would both be fine. I grew strong - you will too. You will have bad or sad moments but you will find a strength you never expected and pull through for the sake of your son.

In the end it turned out my DH was having a breakdown. I got really concerned at one point and called my sil (which speaks volumes). We were separated for 8 months all in. We have been back together for over 5 years and never actually been happier. Take some time, breathe and think. If this is genuinely out of character, you are 100% sure there is no ow could he be going through some mental health struggles. Not being the ‘biological’ dad may have a lot to do with that which is so sad as he sounds like he has a lovely relationship with ds.

True. Could be undiagnosed post natal depression or mental health form 3 years of parenting, life changes and sleep deprivation. Mental health issues in Dad’s often go overlooked.

NewGreenDuck · 21/11/2024 11:07

Of course I would suggest they tried to talk it over
Of course I would want them to communicate whatever the issue is.
On the one hand, however, there are posters saying he should leave now. And when he does he's a swine because he's not doing childcare. If he stayed to do just that, he's a swine for staying. Takes the kid to nursery, he's a swine. Packs his bags and goes, he's a swine.
If he had said 6 weeks, 6 months ago that it wasn't working and the OP had posted then, it would be..
Get your ducks in a row.
Get all the financials.
See a solicitor.
Wait for the script.
Don't wait for him,call all the shots.
Get him out of the house.
Much like the advice now.
Sometimes relationship end.
Only the people involved really know why.

Rosscameasdoody · 21/11/2024 11:07

RunningOutOfImaginitiveUsernames · 21/11/2024 10:57

If your son or daughter said they were unhappy (unless in an abusive relationship) would you not suggest they try counselling first before breaking up a family and 20 year relationship? Suggest communicating whatever the issue is?

Would you advise your son or daughter to tell their spouse to basically 'get on with it' the day after dropping a bombshell?

I'd be pretty disgusted with my adult child if they showed so little empathy and expected their spouse still to live with them just to make their own lives easier after blindsiding their partner.

Note also he has told their DS he is staying at his DMs until Monday with no mention of him doing any childcare. Presumably the OP will have to be doing all the parenting while dealing with this massive shock. So no, none of these things I would advise my children.

How can a counsellor restore feelings that have gone ? DH has communicated his feelings and his issues. Assuming he’s being truthful, he probably thinks the best advice for OP is to ‘get on with it’ because he knows the marriage is at an end. He’s probably feeling guilty that his actions have caused so much distress so he’s gone to DM’s so he doesn’t have to see it. Not the best way to deal with the situation but hindsight is 20/20.

Rosscameasdoody · 21/11/2024 11:08

NewGreenDuck · 21/11/2024 11:07

Of course I would suggest they tried to talk it over
Of course I would want them to communicate whatever the issue is.
On the one hand, however, there are posters saying he should leave now. And when he does he's a swine because he's not doing childcare. If he stayed to do just that, he's a swine for staying. Takes the kid to nursery, he's a swine. Packs his bags and goes, he's a swine.
If he had said 6 weeks, 6 months ago that it wasn't working and the OP had posted then, it would be..
Get your ducks in a row.
Get all the financials.
See a solicitor.
Wait for the script.
Don't wait for him,call all the shots.
Get him out of the house.
Much like the advice now.
Sometimes relationship end.
Only the people involved really know why.

This.

Tina159 · 21/11/2024 11:10

Lemonsandlemonade · 21/11/2024 08:47

H has taken DS to pre school as per our normal routine.

H has told DS that he is going to stay with GM until Monday.

I've not gone to work - H reply the quicker you get back to a normal routine the better for you.

He said it's all a done deal now and we need to move forward.

Im in bed crying alone but I am going to take charge.

Edited

What a dick he is.

He's had weeks or even months where he has had chance to slowly emotionally distance himself from you, he then completely blindsides you - and then expects you to be instantly over it just because he is.

You need time to process this. Don't feel you have to do anything just because he thinks you should be. You don't have to work to his time scales and you don't have to have him in the spare room making out there's something wrong with you when your whole world's just been turned upside down.

What an asshole.

VelociraptorsVelociRapping · 21/11/2024 11:11

I am so so sorry, OP. This happened to me in the spring of this year. The shock and grief were a physical pain like a rock in my chest. He told me that he saw me as a platonic roommate but no more. I’m sorry to say that he also swore there was no-one else but this was a lie. He was infatuated with someone at work and they are now together.

It will get easier. Cry and scream but also look after yourself. Make yourself eat; you will need your strength. Lean on your support networks in real life. You will be astonished at the love and support that others will show you and it will be your lifeline.

RunningOutOfImaginitiveUsernames · 21/11/2024 11:14

Rosscameasdoody · 21/11/2024 11:07

How can a counsellor restore feelings that have gone ? DH has communicated his feelings and his issues. Assuming he’s being truthful, he probably thinks the best advice for OP is to ‘get on with it’ because he knows the marriage is at an end. He’s probably feeling guilty that his actions have caused so much distress so he’s gone to DM’s so he doesn’t have to see it. Not the best way to deal with the situation but hindsight is 20/20.

Edited

They can't, but when he first started feeling unhappy that's when he should have done it. And counselling isn't just helpful for working out issues, it's helpful for the separation. It would have been much better for the OP had she not just been hit with that shock out the blue, he could have given their 20 year relationship enough respect to do that.

He may be feeling guilty (although he did initially want to stay in the same house so not sure on that one), either way I do agree with you that he doesn't want to have to deal with the upset he's caused!

Tina159 · 21/11/2024 11:14

Rosscameasdoody · 21/11/2024 11:07

How can a counsellor restore feelings that have gone ? DH has communicated his feelings and his issues. Assuming he’s being truthful, he probably thinks the best advice for OP is to ‘get on with it’ because he knows the marriage is at an end. He’s probably feeling guilty that his actions have caused so much distress so he’s gone to DM’s so he doesn’t have to see it. Not the best way to deal with the situation but hindsight is 20/20.

Edited

Are you always this much of an apologist for shitty men? Telling someone to 'get over it' when you've just out of the blue ended your 20 year relationship with them shows zero empathy and is nothing but a dick move.

Rosscameasdoody · 21/11/2024 11:16

Pippinsdiary · 21/11/2024 10:56

Can we stop this? It’s likely there is another women BUT it’s not always the case. There’s no need to convince the OP of this when non of us no and it doesn’t need to keep being repeated.

It is possible to fall out of love with someone and leave.

I’m sorry OP, I can’t imagine how you are feeling Flowers

Edited

If you look upthread your words have been repeated many times. Sadly there are those who can’t bear to think that someone can simply fall out of love and end the relationship without another go to partner. They would rather send OP down the other woman rabbit hole than offer advice on dealing with the devastation of the man she loves admitting he no longer loves her.

Newstart2024 · 21/11/2024 11:19

Yes you're going to be sad, yes this is going to be hard.
But if he doesn't love you then it's best he go. If you don't think you can live with him as he suggests then make that clear and stick to it, there's no point him trying to persuade you it will be okay if he stays because that's not going to work for your mental health.

Your son will be okay as long as you act with dignity and are fair to each other.
You can prove how strong you are and how you can put him first by working with your husband to get through this break up amicably.
You can pick yourself up and your life will be okay, you need to believe that. What is the point in being with someone who doesn't love you?

Don't hate yourself, it's got nothing to do with you, it's all to do with him.

JawsCushion · 21/11/2024 11:19

I am so sorry to read this but you have to reframe everything.

You are not broken. Being married doesn't make you whole. You have nothing to hate yourself for.

Whether he has someone else or not is irrelevant now. He doesn't want a relationship with you so take him at his word.

Get all financial paperwork in place. Speak to a solicitor about a divorce. He will have to finance his child. You need to file for divorce and tick the financial order needed box. You can do that on your own, costs just under £600.

You don't have to do anything I've just said today of course, but you do need to accept it is over. Of course, being a man there is a chance that when he sees you saying okay, getting on with your life and he gets the divorce notification, he might suddenly change his mind. Up to you if you let him stay but I'd make him pay to protect yourself for when he does it again.

There is no pretending that divorce is not bloody awful. You'll find out stuff about him you never believed but you'll also discover you are much much stronger than you would ever have guessed.

You are a mum and that gives you strength. Use it.

WestwardHo1 · 21/11/2024 11:19

user1492757084 · 21/11/2024 01:35

If there is no other woman, commit to some counselling before separating.
You have nothing to lose, might learn some great communication tips regardless of where the relationship is headed and you have invested so many years already.

Could be a depression or something left of field that your husband is dealing with.

Edited

I tried this. It was absolutely savage.

I still don't know if my exH had another woman at the time, but he went to the counselling to try and make me realise it was over and to be able to tell me how awful I was in a "safe space", whereas I went to try and save our marriage. It damaged me almost beyond repair.

I don't recommend going unless the both of you are truly committed to trying your best to salvage your relationship.

Calliopespa · 21/11/2024 11:19

Lavenderfarmcottage · 21/11/2024 11:05

True. Could be undiagnosed post natal depression or mental health form 3 years of parenting, life changes and sleep deprivation. Mental health issues in Dad’s often go overlooked.

Esp with the more complicated background of DS being donor sperm on top of the ivf, sleep deprivation etc.

A lot of men feel “ left out” when the mum is deeply “ in the trenches” of childcare and I can see how this could add a layer to that.

Just be as kind to yourself and as strong as you can op. Things will come clear.

AlertCat · 21/11/2024 11:20

Lemonsandlemonade · 21/11/2024 08:47

H has taken DS to pre school as per our normal routine.

H has told DS that he is going to stay with GM until Monday.

I've not gone to work - H reply the quicker you get back to a normal routine the better for you.

He said it's all a done deal now and we need to move forward.

Im in bed crying alone but I am going to take charge.

Edited

This is very cold. I’m glad you’re not at work. Treat yourself as if ill- heartbreak has physiological effects, so be as nice to yourself as you can.

Practical advice here about financial paperwork and legal advice is good, but take some time to move through all the feelings- it’ll be horrible but you can’t get past them without going through them. Then you’ll be a bit better placed to start dealing with that stuff.

And your son can be fine- co-parenting is perfectly doable. Wishing you all the best.

Rosscameasdoody · 21/11/2024 11:22

Tina159 · 21/11/2024 11:14

Are you always this much of an apologist for shitty men? Telling someone to 'get over it' when you've just out of the blue ended your 20 year relationship with them shows zero empathy and is nothing but a dick move.

Read my other posts. I’m not an apologist for anything. He’s a man. He probably thinks he’s being practical by telling her they need to move forward, because he’s had time to process it before he’s dropped the bomb. Then he’s scarpered to mummy so he doesn’t have to witness the fallout. OP doesn’t need his empathy. She needs to act before he gets cosy with his separate lives from the same home proposition.