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Husband just walked out- intimacy issues

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Newstart2024 · 16/11/2024 11:41

Bit of background, me and DH have 3 kids aged 7,4 and 2. My libido always been a bit lower than his but okay, we talked about it before marriage and with our vicar in wedding counselling prior and dh said he couldnt live in a sexless marriage. Which is fine by me I agreed.
Since then and with the children our sex life has been up and down and on a down patch after our second we had some counselling where husband says he doesn’t feel desired, touch is a love language and he always initiates which makes him feel like he’s pressuring me. He basically said if things didn’t improve he’d leave because it’s so important to him. we talked it through (though counsellor wasn’t great and part of her advice was to stop breastfeeding??!!!). we were okay for a while.
Recently I’ve changed contraception and after sorting it finally my husband suggested we try for intimacy once a week and he didn’t always want to intiate.

This was fine at first but last few weeks we haven’t and I didn’t think anything of it. Then last weekend he did suggest we go upstairs but I’d hurt my neck and told him it might be worth waiting a few days which he was annoyed about but he knows it’s true!

Cut to mid week last week and after we did kids bedtime I came down and he had packed a bag! He told me he had arranged a room through air bnb and was moving there. He was very calm saying he had always been clear about intimacy and he couldn’t see the marriage continuing. The air bnb is 10 minute walk away and he left.
I have been left overnight with kids and doing breakfast in the morning. I normally do this but sometimes he is here working from home or sometimes he has left for the office. I do the childminder drop off for youngest and school runs. We both work, then one of us will pick kids up from childminder at 5:30-6. He has come here after work to help with bedtimes then off back to the air Bnb!!!

Last night he sent an email saying this weekend he would be back home with family (they live 150 miles away) and then he would look after kids next weekend. He said we can discuss a longer term solution. He has the money to rent a room I’m sure but that money we have been putting towards our holidays etc. He earns more than me.

I am totally blindsided and don’t know what to do next?! When I’ve talked to him he said he hasn’t ruled out reconciling but doesn’t know how things are expected to change when we’ve already discussed and had counselling about this issue before. I’d be willing to make more of an effort but it’s just not on my radar as much as him.

Ideas? He’s really calm and just seems a bit sad and in “I’ve got a plan” mode?! I’ve been frustrated upset and shocked and asked him to stay and talk but he’s just been going back to air bnb and wants to talk when situation a bit clearer and calmer? Kids are okay but confused their day is pretty much the same.

OP posts:
Lookingatthesunset · 16/11/2024 16:35

Glitterbomb123 · 16/11/2024 16:34

He's the one leaving you. He's splitting up the family which will lead the children to having weekends at different houses etc. Potentially new families. All because he's not getting sex enough.

What's he going to tell people? Oh I left her because she only wanted sex a couple times a month and that's not enough for me, even though we have three small children. Irl I don't know anyone that wouldn't think.. wow what a tosser.

The comments on this thread are insane. He's putting his sexual needs before the happiness of his children. What a selfish man

At least read the OP's bloody posts!!! It's the other way around!

KateJ521 · 16/11/2024 16:36

villagecrafts · 16/11/2024 16:33

@Newstart2024 You said 'I do think he masturbates but don’t imagine it’s a lot who knows, he’s never said. Maybe that’s something sex therapy would go through?'.

It might, but why haven't you talked to him about this? Honestly, just ask him! It sounds to me like you don't really communicate, and that could be the real reason you've drifted so far apart.

Get him to talk to you about his sexual thoughts and fantasies. Tell him to come to you if he feels like masturbating. Does he watch porn? Tell him to stop and come to you with his desires. Ask him what he watches, get him to describe the sorts of things that turn him on. Open up to him about your desires - it might turn him on too. Watch it together. There's loads of things you could try before dropping a bomb into your children's lives.

Don't walk out on your children and a marriage that could still work. You need to talk, and talk without reins on your thoughts. Be honest, be real - it's the only way to build intimacy. And give him a hug, you never know where it might lead.

Great advice.

UsernameNameUser · 16/11/2024 16:37

Newstart2024 · 16/11/2024 16:34

I agree with this really but boy did I kiss a lot of frogs first. We’re simpatico in ever other way how compatible do I need to be with someone to make it work… or just be alone. Sigh.

You might be compatible in a lot of ways, but you’re not compatible in this VERY big way. He doesn’t seem to want to increase his libido - which is fair enough. You don’t want to decrease yours - also fair enough. It’s obviously something that neither of you can move past without a very sad compromise for one of you

Lookingatthesunset · 16/11/2024 16:37

MerlotMisery · 16/11/2024 16:34

But she's tried and tried and tried, and the partner's still refusing.

Well then she needs to try some more.

UsernameNameUser · 16/11/2024 16:39

Lookingatthesunset · 16/11/2024 16:37

Well then she needs to try some more.

But it’s not shit sex, it’s that her DH doesn’t WANT sex, and if he does, it’s infrequent. Trying to coerce him into more sex that he doesn’t want is rape. He has shown he’s not fussed about it, which he has every right not to be. It’s up to OP to decide what she can and can’t live with - and she clearly cannot live with a DH who doesn’t want her as much as she wants him

Newstart2024 · 16/11/2024 16:40

In counselling my husband did admit to having a generally lower sex drive probably than the average man. I’ve also seen him in tears over this issue.
I accepted that and if we left it to him we probably wouldn’t have sex. A few times a month to once a week was the compromise. I have to initiate and even when I do doesn’t necessarily get there even to our agreed quota.
the fact that we have a third child and she’s so young means I imagine I will probably stay but do think I need a break.

I have researched a local therapist who specialises in sex whereas we saw the previous one online and I just didn’t find it useful. It could be our next step but I’m so tired of trying.

OP posts:
Tomorrowisyesterday · 16/11/2024 16:41

Gosh. He gets a whole morning a week to himself and you're surprised he's not gagging for it?

Tomorrowisyesterday · 16/11/2024 16:43

I've missed if he's seen his doctor just to run some tests. It's worth ruling out any medical issues.
I would not fuck up my dc's childhood over this though, especially when you've always known you were mismatched in this way. Sorry.

Keepingitreal9 · 16/11/2024 16:43

UsernameNameUser · 16/11/2024 16:30

Even with the reverse, my response is still the same. He doesn’t want frequent sex (or any at all!) and you do. Counselling hasn’t worked, it’s been a long standing issue. If you stay and agree to less sex, you’re unhappy. If you stay and he agrees to more sex, he’s unhappy - and there’s always the gross factor of him potentially feeling forced/coerced. Either way, someone has resentment.

Your relationship was fundamentally incompatible before marriage & kids, two life stages that are known to make or break a marriage. The foundation was rocky before them, so it’s practically shattered now.

You’re not compatible

Edited

Question: Mum & dad we were devastated when you & dad split up. It makes us not want to fall in love or get married in case it happens to us. Please tell us the reason you finshed with dad because we always thought you loved each other.

Answer: Sex darlings just sex. I was only getting it twice a month. I know you don't like my new partner cause he's made it clear it's just me he wants but the sex is brilliant.Your father was hopeless.

I sincerely hope this will never be the scenario OP. I still wish you all the best. You have to do what you have to do.

MerlotMisery · 16/11/2024 16:43

Lookingatthesunset · 16/11/2024 16:37

Well then she needs to try some more.

And that right there is how so many women find themselves taking to Mumsnet to complain that their husband is constantly pestering and badgering them for sex.

KateJ521 · 16/11/2024 16:44

Could you get a long weekend away together and go and stay in a fancy hotel every so often? With no pressure on sex. Tell him so infact. But to find each other again. Hard to feel sexy on daddy day care. When with kids a lot it's quite common to just feel touched out and want to have your own space.

WoolySnail · 16/11/2024 16:44

villagecrafts · 16/11/2024 16:33

@Newstart2024 You said 'I do think he masturbates but don’t imagine it’s a lot who knows, he’s never said. Maybe that’s something sex therapy would go through?'.

It might, but why haven't you talked to him about this? Honestly, just ask him! It sounds to me like you don't really communicate, and that could be the real reason you've drifted so far apart.

Get him to talk to you about his sexual thoughts and fantasies. Tell him to come to you if he feels like masturbating. Does he watch porn? Tell him to stop and come to you with his desires. Ask him what he watches, get him to describe the sorts of things that turn him on. Open up to him about your desires - it might turn him on too. Watch it together. There's loads of things you could try before dropping a bomb into your children's lives.

Don't walk out on your children and a marriage that could still work. You need to talk, and talk without reins on your thoughts. Be honest, be real - it's the only way to build intimacy. And give him a hug, you never know where it might lead.

This ⬆️
OP I know you've tried previously, but if you give it another shot at least you know you did everything you could.

ICarriedTheWatermelon · 16/11/2024 16:46

So he’s the one sexually rejecting you.

Wonder if has a secret porn habit going on? This can be very destructive to a Sex life

Glitterbomb123 · 16/11/2024 16:46

Lookingatthesunset · 16/11/2024 16:35

At least read the OP's bloody posts!!! It's the other way around!

Ah sorry I didn't read all 13 pages 🙈 ok. Same goes to the OP then.

AcrossthePond55 · 16/11/2024 16:47

@Newstart2024

My advice is unchanged. Every person is entitled to have the sex life that works for them. No one should have sex unless they truly want to and no one should go without sex that they truly want. My mum taught me that sex in a marriage is a 'joyous coming together' of two people who love each other. No one should feel forced or coerced into it because their partner wants it. So no, your DH doesn't need to meet your sexual desires if he doesn't want to. But neither do you have to 'go without' because his libido doesn't match yours.

As far as this: "What do I do if I meet someone attractive who actually seems interested in me? (I’m fact it’s happened before with a colleague and freaked me out and upset me that I might be tempted to cheat)", cheating is NEVER the answer, N.E.V.E.R. The desire to cheat is a strong signal that it's time to leave, and not only for your own sake. The humiliation heaped upon a cheated-on spouse is pain beyond pain. No one deserves it, no one. So if that desire becomes so overwhelming, the answer is to leave before you 'fall', allowing both you and your husband to keep your dignities intact. If it comes to that happening, you will be glad you did.

Newstart2024 · 16/11/2024 16:47

Keepingitreal9 · 16/11/2024 16:43

Question: Mum & dad we were devastated when you & dad split up. It makes us not want to fall in love or get married in case it happens to us. Please tell us the reason you finshed with dad because we always thought you loved each other.

Answer: Sex darlings just sex. I was only getting it twice a month. I know you don't like my new partner cause he's made it clear it's just me he wants but the sex is brilliant.Your father was hopeless.

I sincerely hope this will never be the scenario OP. I still wish you all the best. You have to do what you have to do.

I would say. “Marriage is a commitment to loving each other and doing what you can to make each other happy and getting through this life together. It is a promise to each other to just make things better and to feel belove with compromises along the way. But your Dad and I weren’t making each other happy, he didn’t make me feel loved even when we had tried and tried again. But he is a lovely man and he’s a great Dad and we’re very lucky to have him in our lives aren’t we? I really hope you can find someone who is a partner in all things who makes you happy and makes you feel loved.”

OP posts:
Soangrynupset · 16/11/2024 16:47

OP, with the reverse update, my answer remains the same - if he just doesn't notice how long it has been/ makes no effort to initiate even with all the previous talks about this.

You have given enough headsup, your DH can't be surprised. He is not taking it serious how important this is to you or he just doesn't care enough.

Aria999 · 16/11/2024 16:48

Actually the reverse does change my advice.

Firstly it's much more stressful for a man to decide to try and have sex anyway when he's not really feeling it than for a woman to do so, because it's pretty obvious and embarrassing if it's not working.

Secondly my advice was to the other person.

OP, either he doesn't desire you or he has some kind of physical issue. If it's the first then even if he's trying harder you still aren't really getting what you want.

If it's the second then the poor guy is in a very difficult situation.

Newstart2024 · 16/11/2024 16:49

Tomorrowisyesterday · 16/11/2024 16:41

Gosh. He gets a whole morning a week to himself and you're surprised he's not gagging for it?

It a full fucking morning more than I get I’m either working on a high pressured job or with the kids.

OP posts:
Newstart2024 · 16/11/2024 16:50

He hasn’t been to the Dr. I have asked him things about sex but he doesn’t reply. Asked him what he likes and he doesn’t say.
he’s never suffered ED even though I initiate.

If we need to have those conversations to fix it it will need to be with a sex therapist he can work with and where he’s paying something towards it so he’s motivated to get some results.

OP posts:
MullerDuller · 16/11/2024 16:51

MerlotMisery · 16/11/2024 16:43

And that right there is how so many women find themselves taking to Mumsnet to complain that their husband is constantly pestering and badgering them for sex.

bravo

Tomorrowisyesterday · 16/11/2024 16:51

Do you get coffee in peace? A whole sandwich at lunch without a toddler needing you?
It doesn't sound like you like him at all or value his work.

MerlotMisery · 16/11/2024 16:52

MerlotMisery · 16/11/2024 16:43

And that right there is how so many women find themselves taking to Mumsnet to complain that their husband is constantly pestering and badgering them for sex.

You've got to laugh. Imagine the OP's DH off to Dadsnet to complain his wife who earns 3x his wage, constantly pesters him for sex.

The other dads on there going Ugh! She sounds vile! Get your ducks in a row and LTB! 😂😂

Merrygoround8 · 16/11/2024 16:53

Pinkissmart · 16/11/2024 12:04

Bloody hell

You’re in the trenches of child rearing now. All kids are small and incredibly demanding. Sometimes there isn’t much left at the end of the day after the kids go to bed.

Personally, I wouldn’t want to be with someone who was so breathtakingly selfish.

He’s been clear from the start - before kids and before marriage. It sounds like this was always a problem. Obviosuly kids make it tougher, but this clearly isn’t the only reason affecting OP libido. It’s a sad incompatibility.

He isn’t selfish for wanting it and having been clear from the start. OP isn’t selfish for declining it either.

Aria999 · 16/11/2024 16:53

Maybe he likes you initiating....

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