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DH saying he's leaving in the New Year

138 replies

Dimebag10M · 08/11/2024 15:15

Just that really. Not sure how I feel. Kids are older teens, almost don't have the fight left in me. I have serious MH and physical illnesses which I'm probably sure has taken a toll on everything, but his behaviour over the years is making me wish he'd change - it'll never happen. Don't ask me if I'm happy because I don't know what that is. Maybe it is for the best but I'm petrified of change, and we've been together 21 years! Just scared, worried and confused.

OP posts:
gokartdillydilly · 14/11/2024 19:46

AcrossthePond55 · 08/11/2024 21:48

@Dimebag10M

You know, sometimes those people who say "I told you so" end up being a really great source of support. Just say "Yes, you certainly did and I'm sorry I didn't listen to you back then. But I'm hearing you now!". Just be honest and open. If there are family members or friends who have 'fallen away' because of him maybe now might be a good time to try to get in touch with them. I'll be they'll be glad to hear from you.

Yes, you do need to protect your mental health right now. You say you don't know how to feel, and that's fine. Don't try to force yourself to feel something just because you think you should. Perhaps feeling 'nothing-ish' is the right way for you to feel right now. But if you have MH resources it may be a good time to get in touch with them.

As far as the 'frosty atmosphere', honestly try to enjoy it if you can. If he's giving you the silent treatment that's better than him criticizing or being angry. Just go about your business and do whatever makes you happy. I do sort of agree that it would be better for him to just leave now, but you probably can't force him out and it may result in more hassle and 'atmosphere' than you want to deal with right now.

Your feelings and your future will become clear to you in good time.

Great advice here, OP. Good luck! You've got this! X

Miloarmadillo2 · 14/11/2024 19:46

Dimebag10M · 14/11/2024 18:07

Now he is acting like he never said a thing... I'm pretty sure that's a bit of gaslighting, despite not saying anything directly!

Or he didn’t actually have any intention of leaving and he just wants you to toe the line and appease him. Take him at his word and instruct a divorce lawyer. Prick.

AcrossthePond55 · 14/11/2024 20:06

Dimebag10M · 14/11/2024 18:07

Now he is acting like he never said a thing... I'm pretty sure that's a bit of gaslighting, despite not saying anything directly!

None of that matters, what he says doesn't matter. Don't bother to argue with him or defend yourself. You know the truth. All that matters is what YOU know. And one of the things you know is that you aren't happy and that it's his fault. And remember, any person can end any relationship for any reason, or no reason at all. You don't have to justify or explain anything to him. Remember JADE; never Justify, Argue/Apologize, Defend, or Explain.

"Tbh he has history of this, almost saying it to make things change for him, but not realising the damage he's causing by saying it, if you know what I mean?"

I know exactly what you mean. And you know exactly what he's doing and why. Another reason not to engage with him.

I know this is scary. And I know you wish it would all go away. But it won't. Have you tried to access any of your MH resources or tried to contact your family? I really think it might help to reinforce to you that you are right and give you the strength to make the decision that's right for you. You have the right to be happy.

Necky1 · 14/11/2024 20:45

Sounds like you might be better on your own.

Oblahdeeoblahdoe · 14/11/2024 20:54

Dimebag10M · 14/11/2024 18:07

Now he is acting like he never said a thing... I'm pretty sure that's a bit of gaslighting, despite not saying anything directly!

What a bastard. He knows you're unwell and he's messing with your head. Take the advice here and start getting ready to split. When he's gone ( hopefully before Christmas) you can start to really look after yourself and not bother with him.

Ilovemeggy38 · 14/11/2024 21:39

bombastix · 08/11/2024 18:20

He can leave now. Sounds like his arrangements which include another woman aren’t yet ready. But he can leave right now and get the divorce going.

Oh do give it a rest!
OP has not mentioned anything about OW and has actually said very unlikely.
Why do some women come on here and just project any situation to OW?
OP has actually said she's not that bothered about him leaving and is actually thinking it may be a good idea.
The main concern should be telling the children in an appropriate way and working towards an amicable split, not muddying OPs waters with OW scenarios!
OP, get support from whatever team you are currently under and prioritise your children....you need to be strong for them not getting het up about someone you accept needs and wants to leave.
Splitting up is difficult but doesn't have to be absolutely terrible.
Talk about what you both want regarding access for the children and look forward to the New Year and a new start.
Use this time to start planning and getting used to the new situation of being a single parent,.money, benefits etc

Pinkbonbon · 14/11/2024 22:42

You're the main breadwinner? Lol yeah he's not going anywhere.

He's a manipulative bs artist.

I'd be telling him to leave now.
I'd also bet your mental health will greatly improve relatively quickly if you get rid of him.

Rosa68 · 14/11/2024 22:45

Unfortunately relationships do not always last forever.

ProvincialLady24 · 14/11/2024 22:50

Thank him for giving you notice, but put him on gardening leave.

malificent7 · 14/11/2024 23:18

Pack his things. Put outside the front door. Change the locks. No wonder your mental health has suffered with someone who likes to drag things out. Lots of hugs.

StrawberryKebab · 14/11/2024 23:39

I’d be telling him to pack now and there’s the door, he should have kept it to himself till after Christmas if he planned to leave then! Cheeky so and so

Fannyfiggs · 14/11/2024 23:50

Do that one last act of love and pack his stuff, put stuff outside, put him outside, shut and lock door. Live your life free of man, moaning, silent treatment and general man arsehole behaviour. Bliss!

MSLRT · 14/11/2024 23:52

MrsCarson · 08/11/2024 16:20

Why is he waiting till then? Prolonging the agony.

Quite. Tell him to sod off now

80smonster · 15/11/2024 00:40

Doesn’t take 6 weeks to pack a bag, if he wants to go, tell him now is good!

JFDIYOLO · 15/11/2024 00:45

Is he expecting you to deliver Christmas? 🧐
Take control. He's using this as a control mechanism.

I'd be buckling down with plans right now - see the solicitor, get the financials in order.

Start talks about where he'll be going, what he expects to take with him, a moving out date etc.

Be the one to initiate divorce. Don't have it done to you.

I'd also suggest you start recording conversations with him.

Make plans to do things solo. Could you and the children maybe go away to family for Christmas? He'll need to practice being on his own and this seems as good a time as ever. Faking Happy Families with him will be teeth clenchingly hard.

And start redecorating (as in new bedlinen, cushions, towels etc) to your own taste.

PyongyangKipperbang · 15/11/2024 00:59

No no fucking no.

"If you have decided to leave then go now. Dont drag it out, dont use my money and this home as a stop gap. Be the man you think you are and just go. You have 7 days"

Make Gary Gaslighter follow through. As you say, your medication means that you dont feel many extremes of emotion, so use that to your advantage.

PyongyangKipperbang · 15/11/2024 01:01

As others have said, living with a man like that would fuck up anyones mental health. Have a random scroll throught this topic and see how many women who live with abusive men have MH issues. I did. And then when the cunt got removed, oddly enough my MH issues werent issues anymore.......

PyongyangKipperbang · 15/11/2024 01:04

Dimebag10M · 08/11/2024 20:40

Thank you all - I've come home from work to a very frosty atmosphere... so I'm doing some Christmas shopping to cheer me up! Just thinking this may be a blessing in disguise, but I just don't want to deal with the emotional bit of the whole 'separating'. Also, it's a bit I'm scared of the 'I told you so' from a few family members who've never liked him. I don't have any outside of work friends so I am just worried about the support network. I don't think there's another woman, he's faaaarrr to honest (brutally) and would rub it in my face if there were. His family love me and understand how hard it is to live with him! Just need to try and protect my emotional state because I do not need sectioning, my DC need me

No one who loves you will say (or even think) "I told you so". They will say and think "thank fuck she is free of that prick". Any negativity will be aimed him, not you. I suspect even his family will be relieved you got rid.

namechangealerttt · 15/11/2024 01:30

I had bad mental health problems for years which I am sure frustrated my ex husband, and I am not sure if it will be the same for you, my mental health massively improved after we separated. I no longer was living in a situation where someone was treating me unkindly in my own home on a daily basis.

Took me about 2 years post separation to realise that was abuse.

Get him out, there will be a difficult transition period, but trust me, in the long run you will be better off.

Duckingella · 15/11/2024 01:45

I bet your mental health would improve without this difficult,gaslighting prick who's emotionally abusing you.

It sounds like you're carrying everything alone anyway;it might not seem like it but it's better to be alone and be able to breathe peacefully than to be with someone and suffocating.

Wishing you the best OP;you're much stronger than you think you are.

NiftyKoala · 15/11/2024 01:56

Call his bluff tell him to go now. I bet every part of your life will improve.

autienotnaughty · 15/11/2024 03:00

It's an empty threat to get you to behave. I'm guessing previously you got scared and tried to keep him. He is probably confused as to why you are not begging him to stay!

If the relationship isn't fulfilling you why don't you look at ending things for real.

WiddlinDiddlin · 15/11/2024 03:29

He knows exactly how much it hurts you and fucks with your head when he says he is leaving.

That is why he does it.

Think about that.

Now take back control, tell him to fuck off, now. Not next week or next month or after Christmas. Now.

He does this so he can control you, fuck with you, he gets a kick out of it, he gets you to play 'pick me pick me' and fight for him to stay. Drop the ball, don't play the game any more.

You don't need him, for anything useful he does, he takes away by behaving like this (and I'll bet, many other shitty things besides).

You don't have to wait for him to decide to leave, you can decide to throw him out.

stayathomer · 15/11/2024 03:34

Tell him it’s November and a frosty atmosphere isn’t fair on your kids (or you but hearing the kids might make him think). Have you had problems for a while? Have ye talked? 21 years is so long and either way whether you split up or not you’re going to be parenting together so it’s better you’re not on The worst terms. I’m so sorry op x

Codlingmoths · 15/11/2024 04:09

Tell him if he’s going to cause an atmosphere best he packs up and leaves today. And if he is able to stay amicable while he’s here you’d still like a date please. Before new years would be amazing, but if you need longer how about gone by 7th jan? That’s about as long as I can push it out sorry, this has gone on too long and we both need a fresh start. What shall I tell your parents? That you’ll be gone now, before new years or by the 7th? I’ll do a group WhatsApp tomorrow if you haven’t, it would help everyone to put dates in.

You never ever read of men with physical and mental illness who are still the breadwinner and the ones who keep the family going. Well done you!

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