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Everything is great apart from our sex life

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Andyls · 04/11/2024 19:33

Please don't flame me!

First of all I love my partner very much but the lack of sex life is eating away at me inside. We have 2 children one just turned 2 the other is 6.

Since we have had our 1st ive really struggled with our sex life, at first it was oh it must just be hormones while pregnant, then it was it must be hormones while breastfeeding and it can take 2 years for a woman to feel semi normal again after birth and breastfeeding. The problem now is my youngest is more than 2 years old we are past the (2 year for a woman's hormones to get to normal stage)

We've tried so much, she's stopped taking the pill and few months ago to see if it would help her get more in the mood. It didn't work. I track her cycle (she's knows this) so I know when her "sex" hormones are at the highest still doesn't work. How it normally goes it i don't mention sex to her until she is the best time in her cycle. But every night after shes had her period we go bed I always think maybe tonight and it never happens until I get sexually frustrated I end up asking her if we can have sex week or at the weekend which I know is pathetic to even. She often says ok but she's just fobbing me off to stop me asking her. Then nothing happens on the days we are supposed to. I know she sees sex as just a physical act but to me it's so much more than that. It shows me I can trust her and that she actually cares abouts me and our relationship and everything we have. I havnt said this to her because she'll just think I'm talking about sex again but I genuinely feel I've been waiting since the birth of our first 6 years for things to get better and its just not.

We usually manage once a month and I feel I'm compromising at that and the longer I go without the more insecure I feel about everything in our relationship and weather we even have a future. It's a real deal breaker for me but I genuinely think she doesn't know how I feel about it and it's just another job for her to do. I can't go on forever this way and always thought there would be light at the end of the tunnel but we're just going backwards. We haven't had sex in over a month yet I've been fully supportive of her . She says she just doesn't feel like it, she has said this before but she enjoys it once we get going but it's the getting going part that's the problem. Any thoughts? I don't want to be pushed into the position of accept a sexless relationship or breakup my family and start again.

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Nothatgingerpirate · 05/11/2024 15:49

Andyls · 05/11/2024 15:47

Were not married

Oh, apologies, I didn't realise.
Off with you, then!
Easy peasy 😂

flipdiddle81 · 05/11/2024 15:49

@Andyls

read all the posts that you have posted on other threads that paint you in some kind of prince charming light about supporting your wife no matter what, snd how incomprehensible it is to you to consider ending a marriage just. because of lack of sex

your hypocrisy is…. mind boggling

Nothatgingerpirate · 05/11/2024 15:54

flipdiddle81 · 05/11/2024 15:49

@Andyls

read all the posts that you have posted on other threads that paint you in some kind of prince charming light about supporting your wife no matter what, snd how incomprehensible it is to you to consider ending a marriage just. because of lack of sex

your hypocrisy is…. mind boggling

He's not married.

flipdiddle81 · 05/11/2024 15:55

Nothatgingerpirate · 05/11/2024 15:54

He's not married.

because that particular detail was very important to my post 😕

OrlandointheWilderness · 05/11/2024 15:58

You sound lonely @Andyls.
Unfortunately no one on here can give you the answer - you need to talk to her. I'm so sorry, it's awful to feel rejected in a relationship.

violentovulation · 05/11/2024 15:58

Andyls · 05/11/2024 13:33

She never shows any interest in me at all even asking about my day at work etc. Never says love you first as one of us is leaving the house or on a phone call. I just feel like I'm compromising over and over again and not getting anything in return emotionally. I don't feel I can depend on her or that she cares about me\us. She just doesn't give me enough of anything. It's always me who instigates everything from a hug to a kiss goodbye. It's just a one way street. It's at the point we're before I could justify it in been pregnancy or breastfeeding hormones or just tiredness like people have said but it's getting to the point where's its not of these things. I've spent 2 years in a happy relationship with her and the other 6 have been just getting by hoping for better days. It's not a rash decision its been 6 years . How many people would stay in a relationship for 6 years feeling this way thinking one day things will be better then that day never comes. When she says she's too tired or just doesn't want it I think great it's me that missing out again. I've even thought what can I cut out of the relationship if she just can't be bothered about making time for me once a month. Even once a month isn't enough for me but like I've said I can compromise to once a month but I can't compromise to nothing and feeling been in a fake relationship with someone who isn't committed. It's stressful everyday thinking do we have a future or not and can't do any sort of planning . Even xmas day I plans I think if we're even still together.

The first thing to go in a troubled relationship is sex. If we didnt have kids i would have ended it years ago.
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After reading this part, I genuinely think the lack of sex is the least of the issue here. It sounds like she's checked out of the relationship entirely. She's just going through the motions because you have children together. If you're trying to reignite something, I think you're going to struggle.

northernlight20 · 05/11/2024 15:58

well, siunds like you pester her for sex which is very offputting. my ex was like this and i felt i didnt like sex. when i divorced him and met my new husband, i realised i like sex, he just gave me the ick cos he was a sex pest

Nothatgingerpirate · 05/11/2024 15:59

flipdiddle81 · 05/11/2024 15:55

because that particular detail was very important to my post 😕

It's been highlighted by the OP, but obviously, not important to your post.
You are right! 👍

TheShellBeach · 05/11/2024 16:29

Andyls · 05/11/2024 15:47

Were not married

Why didn't you marry the mother of your children?

EuclidianGeometryFan · 05/11/2024 16:30

None of your replies address the workload issue.

Here is what you need to do:

  1. Stop asking / trying for sex for the next six weeks. Don't even think about it. Cuddle and kiss on the cheek but hold your pelvis away from her.
  2. Double the amount of housework you do each week, and keep it up for six weeks. Especially take on the cleaning, including cleaning the loo and cleaning the kitchen sink daily
  3. Make sure she gets two evenings a week where she does nothing but sit on the sofa, or goes out - you do all the meal, cleaning kitchen after, packed lunches for next day, laundry, kids clothes, putting kids to bed, whatever else needs doing. Don't let her try to 'join you' if the kids are difficult, explain that they need to learn to settle for you.
  4. Get up for the kids in the night if they wake
  5. Get up every morning for the six weeks - you get out of bed as soon as the first one wakes, shut the bedroom door and let her lie there while you get them dressed and breakfasted.
  6. Make sure you are totally on top of all plans and 'mental load' for the next six weeks. She should not have to remind you of anything, nor plan anything that you could take on instead
  7. Make sure she gets 4 to 5 hours every weekend to go out and you will take care of the kids, or you take both kids out for 4 hours.
  8. Arrange a babysitter (you do the arranging) and take her out for an evening once a week - but tell her there will be no sex at the end of the evening so she can relax properly

Then after six weeks see if there is a difference.

Christmasfairy3 · 05/11/2024 16:34

EuclidianGeometryFan · 05/11/2024 16:30

None of your replies address the workload issue.

Here is what you need to do:

  1. Stop asking / trying for sex for the next six weeks. Don't even think about it. Cuddle and kiss on the cheek but hold your pelvis away from her.
  2. Double the amount of housework you do each week, and keep it up for six weeks. Especially take on the cleaning, including cleaning the loo and cleaning the kitchen sink daily
  3. Make sure she gets two evenings a week where she does nothing but sit on the sofa, or goes out - you do all the meal, cleaning kitchen after, packed lunches for next day, laundry, kids clothes, putting kids to bed, whatever else needs doing. Don't let her try to 'join you' if the kids are difficult, explain that they need to learn to settle for you.
  4. Get up for the kids in the night if they wake
  5. Get up every morning for the six weeks - you get out of bed as soon as the first one wakes, shut the bedroom door and let her lie there while you get them dressed and breakfasted.
  6. Make sure you are totally on top of all plans and 'mental load' for the next six weeks. She should not have to remind you of anything, nor plan anything that you could take on instead
  7. Make sure she gets 4 to 5 hours every weekend to go out and you will take care of the kids, or you take both kids out for 4 hours.
  8. Arrange a babysitter (you do the arranging) and take her out for an evening once a week - but tell her there will be no sex at the end of the evening so she can relax properly

Then after six weeks see if there is a difference.

Your wasting your time writing advice
He's not here for so e help and advice
He just wants to have a moan

EuclidianGeometryFan · 05/11/2024 16:38

@Christmasfairy3
Maybe some lurkers will read and take notes😀

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Christmasfairy3 · 05/11/2024 17:08

EuclidianGeometryFan · 05/11/2024 16:38

@Christmasfairy3
Maybe some lurkers will read and take notes😀

Here's hoping x

ShinyShona · 05/11/2024 17:11

Nothatgingerpirate · 05/11/2024 15:42

Exactly, then she'll be rid, with the house and child maintenance!
😂

No, that's not what happens nowadays! More likely she'll have half a house's equity, shared care and get little or no maintenance.

Opentooffers · 05/11/2024 17:35

That insecurity you feel, you could probably quadruple it for her, unless she happens to be the main earner. 6 years, 2 DC's later, no sign of a wedding. That won't of passed her notice, she will know she's not been good enough in your eyes for a proposal. She might be harbouring some resentment over that which is putting her off you.
You seem to be fine with observation, but poor with communication as a couple. Sounds like you have a lot to talk out, either just the 2 of you, or even better with a counsellor. Start by saying your relationship is in trouble, you are not happy, you would like to discuss it. That there is so much you haven't discussed, suggests that counselling would be a good way forward as you've obviously found it hard to talk to each other. There is hope if she agrees to counselling.

Screamingabdabz · 05/11/2024 17:36

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You have no idea that she is ‘utterly selfish’ or that she is ‘demanding’ anything… that’s the women-hating viewpoint you are taking. You think she should shag him regardless of her own well-being because you believe that’s basically her raison d’etre.

You have no idea if she has depression, or if her day to day interactions with the one she’s supposed be intimate with are caring, or if she’s anxious about a million and one other things.

We know nothing of this woman’s life because the op is all wah, wah, wah, me, me, me, I need sex, I track her hormones, wah, wah, I’m needy, me, me, me, why doesn’t she dote on my every whim (meaning my dick), me, me, me.

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cantthinkofausername26 · 05/11/2024 18:06

You came to the wrong place if you want sympathy, mate

Nothatgingerpirate · 05/11/2024 18:31

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Yes, I am!
So beware....😝

KeebabSpider · 05/11/2024 18:33

The first thing to go in a troubled relationship is sex. If we didnt have kids i would have ended it years ago

The first part of this statement is clearly wrong. The trouble comes first then the sex dries up. The second part of this statement is likely correct, for your wife too.

One poster has already quoted "Men want sex to feel loved, women want to be loved to want sex" This is a generalisation, as I suspect that there are a fair few women who don't operate like this.

I think that "Familiarity breeds contempt" is just as likely true, especially if its true of most women that they need to feel loved, (desired, supported and understood) but just as true if some women prefer novelty and simply get bored of having sex in perpetuity with the same person. Either way I think what is true is that men underestimate the many small ways in which their massive planet sized egos, sense of entitlement and lack of tact and empathy effect their partners. I was brought up to have self esteem and whilst this works well for me, not so much for the men I have ended up with. I am not quick to forgive every transgression of my boundaries, and my boundaries are fairly clear. I expect no less respect from my husband than he would show a huge muscle bound axe wielding male maniac on steroids......because in my experience ""Familiarity breeds contempt" or at least men often analyse precisely how little effort, contribution or compromise they need to make, with a very simple sum: Women want to be loved, women want monogamy and commitment, women are vulnerable once they have children etc + I'm the man in the equation = so what is she willing to accept?

Either way, women want to be loved, or perhaps women like men quite like sex, and some women quite like to have sex in order to feel loved (as I'm sure many do, me included) and quite like sex for its own sake, most women will go right off the idea with a man who has in some way harmed them, or even just through a series of seemingly small acts of disrespect, unkindness or lack of support will grow to feel unsafe with that man.

For me, (most women have had one night stands where they didn't feel loved in the five minutes before they DTD) a known entity that feels unsafe is far less attractive that a completely unknown entity. Afterall novelty and risk can be attractive. If someone proves themself (familiarity) to be unreliable and can't be trusted to care/take care then contempt (or at least aversion) is a very reasonable response.

My advice: no more talk about sex. If you are going to talk about anything ask your wife how you and your habits, your contribution or otherwise make her feel? Not just about practical matter, but how you communicate to her and ask yourself the question "Do I respect her?"

Treeinthesky · 05/11/2024 18:38

So after I had my 1st and 2nd it was me begging the husband and I had bad tears and a manual removal!!! Talk to her about this and how you feel and listen to how she feels. It might be the end of the road but maybe not

Thunderpants88 · 05/11/2024 18:42

Monster6 · 04/11/2024 19:37

Is this for real? I sometimes think posts from guys about this are maybe a fetish. Here’s the thing…it’s got NOTHING to do with sex. Do stuff, help, support, hoover, do the washing. Even if you think you’re doing enough you’re not. Take some of the mental load off her. Think about playdates, wrap birthday presents, book the carpet cleaner, but the get well soon cards fur aged relatives..then, she might just.

I don’t think that’s always true. My husband does 50% of the household chores, garden, cleaning, dishwasher, and works 40+ hours week, he plays with our children and I work part time (3 under 5 and one on the way)

I hate men being automatically lambasted and it being assumed they don’t do their fair share. Women who have men that don’t often complain. Those like me that have men that see our home as an equal partnership and effort don’t mention it often.

OP I am speaking from myself. It’s hard to get in the mood with the mental load of parenting. I will attest to only being into sex for a couple of months of pregnancy but breastfeeding utterly tanked my sex drive to less than zero. But I appreciate how important sex is to my husband so I will offer evening quickies to satisfy him and where we have the time, space and I am in the mood we have what I call “really fun sex” where I feel like I WANT to be satisfied.

I think you should talk to her. You sound earnest. I have come to understand sex for my husband makes him feel secure, appreciated and loved. What makes me feel that was my is him looking after his family. Between us we make it work and understand it’s tough right now and won’t be this way forever. I do also think women don’t always appreciate how low their self esteem goes after having children. I am going to have a tummy tuck after this baby because I wasn’t to feel sexy in the bedroom again and reclaim my body.

talk to her, be gentle and be very careful to explain how you feel and ways you think you could overcome the issue together