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Do I tell his wife?

143 replies

NameChange6025 · 25/10/2024 07:56

I know I will get a lot of grief over this post but I want to know what I should do. Walk away (and suffer in silence for the rest of my life) or say something.

I was married. As is he. I was in a sexless marriage and it was clear to be many years ago that my marriage was nothing more than a friendship. OM also married. He, to this day, insists his marriage is also sexless and it is his doing as he doesn’t find her attractive.

I went through a particularly bad part in life about 8 years ago. Lost close family (cancer and accident), was over-looked at work for a job I had worked hard to get (job went to manager’s personal friend) and a colleague ended up being forced out as she raised issues with the recruitment process (they made her life hell and she left and I lost a close colleague, who was my senior). I, and I was completely unaware at the time, hit menopause (at the younger end of the average age range). I became a different person once my periods stopped. I didn’t want to be around people, got anxiety and felt overwhelmed with everything. I went to the GP but was fobbed off. I came away empty handed and never went back. I also experienced, what I now know, is the sex surge of menopause. This went on for a couple of years. Just felt ridiculously horny all the time! Even started dressing differently and acting more confidently (which got me the promotion elsewhere). I am ashamed to say, I started chatting to men online and started to realise I had no sexual relationship with my husband (11 years my senior). I had been very naive and married in my early twenties. Never been with anyone else and had hidden myself away as a teenager rather than go out and meet people. I felt different through the menopause and started to analyse my marriage. We had no affection in the marriage. No kissing, no hugs and no sex. There had been no sex for over 11 years (it’s now 17-18 years). He was also poor in the bedroom (and very selfish) and, again through lack of experience, I didn’t know any different but felt under-whelmed until, eventually, I stopped it.

My feelings through the menopause led to me seeking out male companionship, and it was obvious I was craving something else.

I chatted to a few and found it a bit sleazy and well, stopped. Then went on again one night and chatted to a man at the other end of the country. We hit it off like old friends. It was very obvious we were going to get on well. We, we did. We spent hours and hours chatting online and on the phone. He told me, at the time, he didn’t get on with his wife, they didn’t connect, didn’t spend any time together and had no sex life. I, stupidly, remembered these words and even more stupidly, started to develop feelings for him. It became sexual on the phone and we both enjoyed it. I certainly did as I’d never experienced that before (and I have bottled up a lot of passion inside for years). He never wanted to meet and would cut contact if we came close or it went too far. He would say he gets carried away. But, I was experiencing a passionate man for the first time. We met after a year - we went for a drink and he chatted to me as a friend and I thought he’d drop me off at my hotel. He came
in and we chatted and had tea a while. We ended up kissing but he pulled away and it was obvious he had ‘snapped out of it’. He actually cut contact. He returned a couple of weeks later to say how attractive I was and that he couldn’t keep his hands off of me. I know I should’ve stopped it but I was already falling for him at this point. Like a fool.

He would say he got carried away and would pull back from the ‘friendship’ but it was obvious we got on well. He was very different to
my husband and gave lots of care and attention. By the way, I did end my marriage at this point as it made me realise there was something seriously wrong with my relationship at home.

OM and I met every time I went down to the area and we ended up having passionate sex over and over. Of course, I was in love with him by now. It has gone on 8 years. He would feel guilty and then would butter me up again and it would start again. He would then start going quiet and started telling me he couldn’t give me what I deserved and that I was a nice lady, blah blah. He did stop phoning me as much over time. It went from daily phone calls (some many hours long) to one a month, and completely platonic.

Through some detective work, I got hold of some
photos of his wife and their wedding date. It was obvious his 20th wedding anniversary was coming up. Of course, the increased guilt and approaching anniversary led to him being increasingly quiet. I decided to go and see
him (twice) to talk as I wanted answers as to why he had led me a line etc. We went for a walk and he sat me by a lake. We chatted. He said he felt like he wanted to be hit by a truck each time we’d met (guilt). He said he loved his wife and was never going to be there for me. He had been encouraging me to join a gym, badminton group
to meet people. Anyway, we met again and again ended up in bed. Then he started going quiet after I got upset and told him I was in love with him. Yes, I know. I am an idiot. I was
worried he was going to go. He said he wouldn’t and I wanted to remain friends. I went
down again last week and we chatted for hours. He came to my room and sat in a chair
and told me more about his marriage. He said there was no sex life but that they were best friends and looked after/out for each other. He said he wasn’t attracted to her (weight) and he was the one who stopped the sex but they have an affectionate marriage , apparently. This isn’t what he told me, initially. I then got a lecture on how marriage is more than just sex. He admitted he had been using chat sites on and off since shortly after their marriage. He had been looking at what he wanted out of life and realised he was being unfair to his wife and to me. He stopped using the sites years ago (I do
believe this) but remained friends with me as he ‘thought a lot of me’. He has asked
me numerous times to meet other people (in the hope of finding a man who can give me what I deserve).

Anyway, anniversary was the other day and guess what? He has deleted his FB account and messenger has gone with it! I have his number and he doesn’t seem to have blocked me on there but it’s obvious he wants me to move on.

However, apart from being in love with him (like an idiot), I now have £20k solicitor fees repay and sell the house. Meaning I have lost my financial future and I am now completely alone. I ended up leaving the job as it was too far away and Covid caused issues and I now in another job that also involves a night away (at my expense) and I don’t like it. I am very unhappy in my life and in a much worse position to what I was 8 years ago. Still alone. I tried dating sites to avoid the above with no luck. I didn’t like anyone and my feelings for OM were too strong.

OM has met someone before. He told me. He said he was guilty for years but ended up
doing it again. They have inherited money recently and both are retiring early (she is 60
and he is 54). Meanwhile, I will have to work till 67 and pay another mortgage after being mortgage free for years. My children live with their father mostly.

I am very hurt he has deleted his account without actually telling me first. It is obvious he wants to move on and get on with his life as if nothing has happened.

My life is in tatters. I am seriously unhappy in my life now. So much so, I am having dark thoughts creep in. I want to tell his wife. He has completely spun me a line. The guilt kicks in and he starts again. I know who she is and where she is. What would you do?

OP posts:
Katrinawaves · 25/10/2024 15:15

It’s not impossible that the Facebook and messenger accounts have gone because his wife has caught him. The fact that the OP’s phone number isn’t blocked apparently may be that the wife knows about one of the other mugs the guy is screwing around with but doesn’t know about the OP yet.

MidnightMeltdown · 25/10/2024 15:20

Meanwhile, I will have to work till 67 and pay another mortgage after being mortgage free for years.

My life is in tatters. I am seriously unhappy in my life now.

Taking a step back for a second, surely this is what you were destined for anyway, even if you had never met OM? Or were you planning to stay in your horrible, loveless marriage anyway, just for money and convenience?

I don't think that your life is 'in tatters', as you put it, just because of OM - it is because you married the wrong man in the first place, and were in an unhappy marriage. You thought that OM was your rescuer because you haven't learned to be independent, but you don't need to be rescued OP, you need to take control of your life. The best solution to your unhappy marriage is separate, live independently, and have the opportunity to meet other people, and that is exactly what you have done.

You may feel angry/hurt/in love with OM now, but that is really a footnote to the bigger issue. In time, you will move on and your feelings for him will fade, but you need to accept that he isn't going to be part of your future and make the effort to move forward.

Telling his wife is probably the right thing to do for her. If my husband was cheating then I'd certainly want to know. However it isn't going to help you with your goal of putting him behind you and moving forward. I think you are wanting to tell her for the wrong reasons.

He11oKitty · 25/10/2024 15:42

Angrymum22 · 25/10/2024 12:29

In a sexless marriage it is likely that the wife is aware her DH has sex with other women. But that’s how some relationships go.

DH and I had a healthy sex life until I had breast cancer, the hormone blockers I have to take have robbed me of my previously high libido. DH fully understands that I am rarely interested in sex but is eternally grateful for the treatment that is currently and hopefully preventing him from losing me.
I would fully understand if he felt the need to seek sex elsewhere, he hasn’t for various reasons, but it does happen in some relationships.

After 30+ years together sex is only one aspect of our relationship, we are first and foremost best friends and life partners.
We had planned a great retirement, but events over the last few years have meant changes to that plan.

I’m afraid that you only have yourself to blame for your situation. You could have walked away at any point. If you do go ahead with telling OM’s wife then be prepared, she may well thank you for fulfilling the one part of her relationship she is no longer comfortable with, and by doing so making her relationship stronger. It is very frustrating and frankly upsetting when you are no longer able to satisfy your DHs physical needs, but you get the best of the rest.

I doubt her weight has anything to do with their sex life but may well be the product of other underlying reasons that OM is not comfortable sharing. Most women would have very little respect for a man who is cheating because his wife has had a mastectomy but an insensitive woman may accept weight issues as a reason.

Your shallowness shines through as soon as you mentioned weight. Not every man likes to f@*k a skeleton.

Edited

Thanks for sharing your story, but there is no need to compare any woman’s physique to a dead body. Some people are naturally thin and it’s really draining to see these horrible things said even in passing. Especially on a thread about being cheated on.

(I completely agreed with you up until that point too!)

stayathomer · 25/10/2024 15:51

He, to this day, insists his marriage is also sexless and it is his doing as he doesn’t find her attractive.
As someone whose marriage is probably ending at the moment this sentence makes me so sad/ angry. Married years and he uses this as justification? Op I think you both had a mid life crisis but my god you’ve taken people down with you. I honestly hope you find happiness somehow, either with someone or as a single person but just to let you and anyone else thinking of an affair know when men say something about their Marriage being shit or whatever-less, there’s a huge possibility there’s a woman at the end of it who thinks everything is ok/ is hoping things might work out, thinking it’s just a phase etc. People marry for a reason, let husbands opt out if they will, but fucking legally, not just mentally.

TheTrumptonRiots · 25/10/2024 16:11

Thommasina · 25/10/2024 14:37

Why not? I think she deserves to know, and if this is the way then yes.

Deserving to know and actually wanting to know are two different things

Katrinawaves · 25/10/2024 16:13

TheTrumptonRiots · 25/10/2024 16:11

Deserving to know and actually wanting to know are two different things

Also being told by a sympathetic friend or even the devastated husband of the affair partner is very very different to being taunted by a spurned other women about all the reasons why your husband preferred to shag her than you and is only staying with you for your money! I don’t think either of us would say that we would be happy to know in those circumstances!

MrRobinsonsQuango · 25/10/2024 16:17

SophiaJ8 · 25/10/2024 14:53

Love how the OP had to get that misogynistic little detail in though.

‘He doesn’t want to sleep with her any longer, as she’s fat, he realllllllyyy wanted to sleep with me…. Except now he doesn’t.

Oh and he was probably always still sleeping with her, they always are. Cheaters handbook 101.

Yep. I bet she didn’t understand him. He’s staying for the kids. Her mums not well so now it’s the right time blah blah blah. Very predictable

User364837 · 25/10/2024 16:18

What has your finances and their finances got to do with anything?
What line did he spin you?
Doesn’t sound like he ever promised he would leave his wife?

pick up your dignity and move on.

TwistedWonder · 25/10/2024 16:35

Katrinawaves · 25/10/2024 16:13

Also being told by a sympathetic friend or even the devastated husband of the affair partner is very very different to being taunted by a spurned other women about all the reasons why your husband preferred to shag her than you and is only staying with you for your money! I don’t think either of us would say that we would be happy to know in those circumstances!

Absolutely agree. If the OW has been duped, lied to convincingly or lead on then I’d say tell the wife.
But in this case the OW has her eyes well and truly open, knew from day one she was shagging a married man and appears to have zero accountability, regret or empathy. Its all about vengeance and jealousy.

So as much as this bloke deserves his comeuppance, in this situation I think the OP needs to keep her gob shut. By the sounds of it she’s already been online stalking in preparation anyway so there’s absolutely no altruistic reasoning, just a thirst for revenge.

MidnightMeltdown · 25/10/2024 17:10

He said he loved his wife and was never going to be there for me. He had been encouraging me to join a gym, badminton group* to meet people. Anyway, we met again and again ended up in bed.*

It doesn't sound as though he led you on OP, it seems like he's been very clear. He's explicitly told you, on more than one occasion, that he doesn't want a relationship with you, and you've carried on sleeping with him. Why? Were you expecting him to change his mind?

I can understand that you are disappointed that he didn't choose you, but the writing was on the wall. I'm not really sure how else you expected this to end.

Really, you were hurting yourself by continuing to sleep with him when he'd already told you that it wasn't going anywhere.

I don't want to be harsh, but I think you need to ask yourself these questions.

dominique36 · 25/10/2024 18:59

Imagine wasting years of your life like this though!

McNicey · 25/10/2024 19:06

Honestly, life and karma is already paying you back.

8 years wasted on this chump.

You are awful. A despicable character that has the cheek to present as a victim.

Your future will pay you back unless you radically improve who you are.

Askmehowiknow2021 · 26/10/2024 07:05

Whilst this man is quite obviously a revolting scum bag, you really have to have a look at yourself op and question why you put up with this shit for 8 years. I know some of these slimy married fuckers can have quite the silver tongue and that that can be very attractive when you are vulnerable, in an unhappy marriage, but 8 years?

Everything he said is utter bollocks, I’d bet my house that he’s still shagging his wife and probably other people too. He’s your typical lying cheating arsehole but you had the choice to stop it any time you wanted. You didn’t and now he’s finally ditched you, despite the fact you’ve been very happy to shit on her for the last 8 years, you want to tell the wife? The phrase “fuck around and find out” comes to mind. You fucked around and have found out….there are consequences for you.

Whilst I agree the wife deserves to know the very last person she should hear it from is the bitter and scorned ow. And honestly op if you tell her in the self absorbed, self centred frankly deluded way you’ve presented it on here I really think it will come back and bite you on the arse.

Get some therapy, forget about this disgusting piece of shit and build a life for yourself that you can be proud of.

hughiedoesntfight · 26/10/2024 07:26

Jesus Christ! I have never read such self indulgent shite in my life.

You were perfectly happy to be shagging him knowing he was stringing his wife along and now, you are annoyed that you he was stringing you along?

You aren’t a victim. Most of us have lost people, missed out on a Promotion or gone through menopause, had an unhappy marriage. What most women dont do, is seek to be part of screwing another woman.

Let’s face facts here. You thought you were special. You thought life owed you more. You believe you should be in a better financial position just because you should, you believed you were so special that he couldn’t possibly be stringing you along. You believed you were simply better than his wife and so would win. You would get everything you want. Because you thought you deserved it. That’s not how life works.

You left your job then complaining about the position that’s left you in. And legal fees which are a result of decisions you made. You are upset the man, who showed you who he was, treated you badly.

Tell her if you want. I suspect she might have an idea what he is up to. But also feel like him. That overall they have a good marriage and a good life and so she will stay. And you will still be miserable and bitter. Because you still won’t get what you want.

You would have been more than happy had he completely crushed her and left her for you. You don’t care about her. You care about hurting her because she has what you want.

dunroamingfornow · 26/10/2024 07:38

I cannot believe the only time you mentioned your children was a throwaway comment about them being mostly with their father. I hope you can get to therapy for help. Please don't blow up another woman's life out of spite.

liverpudcounsel · 26/10/2024 08:02

Painting yourself a victim is very unattractive to most men. You will remain single if you continue like this. Life is not all about men either, go out meet girl friends, start some hobbies.

Stay away from the wife, she is not any of your business. Stay away from married men.

DarcyProudman · 26/10/2024 08:14

You created this shitty mess, you knew he was married and now you want to wreck his wife’s life because yours has gone to fuck. What a charmer you are. And let’s face it, she probably already knows you exist…

Motherofalittledragon · 26/10/2024 08:31

ncgfryhfdg · 25/10/2024 08:24

Lots of unnecessary back story on your sad life to justify why you had an 8 year long affair with a married man…
You were wrong and so was he, end of.
Sounds like he made pathetic non-attempts to cool it several times but you’ve still pursued him and of course he’s unable to control himself!🤦‍♀️
You're now bitter because he’s come into some money and can retire early whilst you will have to carry on working so want to tell his poor wife as a form of revenge.
FFS.

All of this ^^

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