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Do I tell his wife?

143 replies

NameChange6025 · 25/10/2024 07:56

I know I will get a lot of grief over this post but I want to know what I should do. Walk away (and suffer in silence for the rest of my life) or say something.

I was married. As is he. I was in a sexless marriage and it was clear to be many years ago that my marriage was nothing more than a friendship. OM also married. He, to this day, insists his marriage is also sexless and it is his doing as he doesn’t find her attractive.

I went through a particularly bad part in life about 8 years ago. Lost close family (cancer and accident), was over-looked at work for a job I had worked hard to get (job went to manager’s personal friend) and a colleague ended up being forced out as she raised issues with the recruitment process (they made her life hell and she left and I lost a close colleague, who was my senior). I, and I was completely unaware at the time, hit menopause (at the younger end of the average age range). I became a different person once my periods stopped. I didn’t want to be around people, got anxiety and felt overwhelmed with everything. I went to the GP but was fobbed off. I came away empty handed and never went back. I also experienced, what I now know, is the sex surge of menopause. This went on for a couple of years. Just felt ridiculously horny all the time! Even started dressing differently and acting more confidently (which got me the promotion elsewhere). I am ashamed to say, I started chatting to men online and started to realise I had no sexual relationship with my husband (11 years my senior). I had been very naive and married in my early twenties. Never been with anyone else and had hidden myself away as a teenager rather than go out and meet people. I felt different through the menopause and started to analyse my marriage. We had no affection in the marriage. No kissing, no hugs and no sex. There had been no sex for over 11 years (it’s now 17-18 years). He was also poor in the bedroom (and very selfish) and, again through lack of experience, I didn’t know any different but felt under-whelmed until, eventually, I stopped it.

My feelings through the menopause led to me seeking out male companionship, and it was obvious I was craving something else.

I chatted to a few and found it a bit sleazy and well, stopped. Then went on again one night and chatted to a man at the other end of the country. We hit it off like old friends. It was very obvious we were going to get on well. We, we did. We spent hours and hours chatting online and on the phone. He told me, at the time, he didn’t get on with his wife, they didn’t connect, didn’t spend any time together and had no sex life. I, stupidly, remembered these words and even more stupidly, started to develop feelings for him. It became sexual on the phone and we both enjoyed it. I certainly did as I’d never experienced that before (and I have bottled up a lot of passion inside for years). He never wanted to meet and would cut contact if we came close or it went too far. He would say he gets carried away. But, I was experiencing a passionate man for the first time. We met after a year - we went for a drink and he chatted to me as a friend and I thought he’d drop me off at my hotel. He came
in and we chatted and had tea a while. We ended up kissing but he pulled away and it was obvious he had ‘snapped out of it’. He actually cut contact. He returned a couple of weeks later to say how attractive I was and that he couldn’t keep his hands off of me. I know I should’ve stopped it but I was already falling for him at this point. Like a fool.

He would say he got carried away and would pull back from the ‘friendship’ but it was obvious we got on well. He was very different to
my husband and gave lots of care and attention. By the way, I did end my marriage at this point as it made me realise there was something seriously wrong with my relationship at home.

OM and I met every time I went down to the area and we ended up having passionate sex over and over. Of course, I was in love with him by now. It has gone on 8 years. He would feel guilty and then would butter me up again and it would start again. He would then start going quiet and started telling me he couldn’t give me what I deserved and that I was a nice lady, blah blah. He did stop phoning me as much over time. It went from daily phone calls (some many hours long) to one a month, and completely platonic.

Through some detective work, I got hold of some
photos of his wife and their wedding date. It was obvious his 20th wedding anniversary was coming up. Of course, the increased guilt and approaching anniversary led to him being increasingly quiet. I decided to go and see
him (twice) to talk as I wanted answers as to why he had led me a line etc. We went for a walk and he sat me by a lake. We chatted. He said he felt like he wanted to be hit by a truck each time we’d met (guilt). He said he loved his wife and was never going to be there for me. He had been encouraging me to join a gym, badminton group
to meet people. Anyway, we met again and again ended up in bed. Then he started going quiet after I got upset and told him I was in love with him. Yes, I know. I am an idiot. I was
worried he was going to go. He said he wouldn’t and I wanted to remain friends. I went
down again last week and we chatted for hours. He came to my room and sat in a chair
and told me more about his marriage. He said there was no sex life but that they were best friends and looked after/out for each other. He said he wasn’t attracted to her (weight) and he was the one who stopped the sex but they have an affectionate marriage , apparently. This isn’t what he told me, initially. I then got a lecture on how marriage is more than just sex. He admitted he had been using chat sites on and off since shortly after their marriage. He had been looking at what he wanted out of life and realised he was being unfair to his wife and to me. He stopped using the sites years ago (I do
believe this) but remained friends with me as he ‘thought a lot of me’. He has asked
me numerous times to meet other people (in the hope of finding a man who can give me what I deserve).

Anyway, anniversary was the other day and guess what? He has deleted his FB account and messenger has gone with it! I have his number and he doesn’t seem to have blocked me on there but it’s obvious he wants me to move on.

However, apart from being in love with him (like an idiot), I now have £20k solicitor fees repay and sell the house. Meaning I have lost my financial future and I am now completely alone. I ended up leaving the job as it was too far away and Covid caused issues and I now in another job that also involves a night away (at my expense) and I don’t like it. I am very unhappy in my life and in a much worse position to what I was 8 years ago. Still alone. I tried dating sites to avoid the above with no luck. I didn’t like anyone and my feelings for OM were too strong.

OM has met someone before. He told me. He said he was guilty for years but ended up
doing it again. They have inherited money recently and both are retiring early (she is 60
and he is 54). Meanwhile, I will have to work till 67 and pay another mortgage after being mortgage free for years. My children live with their father mostly.

I am very hurt he has deleted his account without actually telling me first. It is obvious he wants to move on and get on with his life as if nothing has happened.

My life is in tatters. I am seriously unhappy in my life now. So much so, I am having dark thoughts creep in. I want to tell his wife. He has completely spun me a line. The guilt kicks in and he starts again. I know who she is and where she is. What would you do?

OP posts:
lacefan · 25/10/2024 11:50

I (and apparently every other reader) might be missing something because how on earth is this man responsible for your financial situation?

I dont get this either- what on earth has your financial situation got to do with this tawdry mess?

Were you expecting him to whisk you away into the sunset whilst you quaffed champagne together on a yacht or something?

Your wanging on about money makes it sound like you want to blackmail him which as PP have said, is illegal, and can get you a max of 14 years in prison.

Thats quite a price to pay for indulging your jealousy/spite.

AGreenPlasticWateringCan · 25/10/2024 11:52

You are the architect of your life OP.

Thommasina · 25/10/2024 12:05

I think the wife should know, surely? Poor woman.

MyHouseIsABusStop · 25/10/2024 12:13

You've lost your husband, your house, your children, your financial security and god knows what else, and what you're thinking about is revenge? Revenge on a woman who did nothing to you?
You were the cause of all of this, you could have walked away at any point but you didn't.
I'm normally in favour of telling the wife/GF, but you're just about to destroy her life out of total spite... as if your behaviour hasn't been vile enough already.

Accept that YOU are the cause of all of this, put this man and his poor wife out of your head, move on and try and get your life back together.

Bubbleplumb · 25/10/2024 12:27

You made your bed... You sound spiteful and quite horrible. You have now messed your life up and are jealous that his wife gets to live this financial stress free early retirement while you are struggling. I am sorry but telling his wife serves only you in this situation. Take whatever pride you have left and leave the man and the wife ALONE

Angrymum22 · 25/10/2024 12:29

In a sexless marriage it is likely that the wife is aware her DH has sex with other women. But that’s how some relationships go.

DH and I had a healthy sex life until I had breast cancer, the hormone blockers I have to take have robbed me of my previously high libido. DH fully understands that I am rarely interested in sex but is eternally grateful for the treatment that is currently and hopefully preventing him from losing me.
I would fully understand if he felt the need to seek sex elsewhere, he hasn’t for various reasons, but it does happen in some relationships.

After 30+ years together sex is only one aspect of our relationship, we are first and foremost best friends and life partners.
We had planned a great retirement, but events over the last few years have meant changes to that plan.

I’m afraid that you only have yourself to blame for your situation. You could have walked away at any point. If you do go ahead with telling OM’s wife then be prepared, she may well thank you for fulfilling the one part of her relationship she is no longer comfortable with, and by doing so making her relationship stronger. It is very frustrating and frankly upsetting when you are no longer able to satisfy your DHs physical needs, but you get the best of the rest.

I doubt her weight has anything to do with their sex life but may well be the product of other underlying reasons that OM is not comfortable sharing. Most women would have very little respect for a man who is cheating because his wife has had a mastectomy but an insensitive woman may accept weight issues as a reason.

Your shallowness shines through as soon as you mentioned weight. Not every man likes to f@*k a skeleton.

Winter2020 · 25/10/2024 12:34

Quote: "I know I will get a lot of grief over this post but I want to know what I should do. (a) Walk away (and suffer in silence for the rest of my life) or
(b) say something."

I'm going to suggest
option (c) look forward to getting a new home of your own as a single woman and a fresh start. Try to rebuild your relationship with your children and if you date take it slowly and make sure the man is available.

I do think reading your OP you would benefit from talking to a therapist. It doesn't sound like this chap strung you along- you knew that he was married from the off? He didn't even cope well having an affair let alone leaving his wide. He sounds like a serial cheat and you know what they say about a man marrying his mistress creating a vacancy.

Also from your OP you have said you have lost some family members and I'm sorry for your loss, but I am confused why you list not getting a promotion or a colleague leaving your workplace as "bad things that have happened to me". These are everyday things and disappointing but not a big deal in the scheme of things. If you don't like your job apply for another.

You have the opportunity now for a fresh start. Grab that opportunity and look forward not back.

vincettenoir · 25/10/2024 12:44

Don’t tell the wife. It’s a good thing that you realise that this would be to get even at him rather than pretending you’re doing her some sort of favour.

You are ruminating a lot and have got to a bad place. Seek some support from a counsellor and/ or friends and aim to find some joy in life outside of destroying this couple. It won’t give you the peace you are craving. Find that by addressing your own issues.

LorettyTen · 25/10/2024 13:06

Don't take your disappointment in yourself and your "boyfriend" out on his poor wife.
I bet she would be very surprised to hear that her marriage is sexless.
She's married to a serial cheat (no way are you the only one, you're most likely just one on a production line of casual shags).
Telling his wife is cruel, you know he'll never leave her. Your financial problems aren't her fault. You just want to take it out on someone, well threaten to expose him to worry him, he deserves it, but don't confront his wife.

Thommasina · 25/10/2024 13:12

Angrymum22 · 25/10/2024 12:29

In a sexless marriage it is likely that the wife is aware her DH has sex with other women. But that’s how some relationships go.

DH and I had a healthy sex life until I had breast cancer, the hormone blockers I have to take have robbed me of my previously high libido. DH fully understands that I am rarely interested in sex but is eternally grateful for the treatment that is currently and hopefully preventing him from losing me.
I would fully understand if he felt the need to seek sex elsewhere, he hasn’t for various reasons, but it does happen in some relationships.

After 30+ years together sex is only one aspect of our relationship, we are first and foremost best friends and life partners.
We had planned a great retirement, but events over the last few years have meant changes to that plan.

I’m afraid that you only have yourself to blame for your situation. You could have walked away at any point. If you do go ahead with telling OM’s wife then be prepared, she may well thank you for fulfilling the one part of her relationship she is no longer comfortable with, and by doing so making her relationship stronger. It is very frustrating and frankly upsetting when you are no longer able to satisfy your DHs physical needs, but you get the best of the rest.

I doubt her weight has anything to do with their sex life but may well be the product of other underlying reasons that OM is not comfortable sharing. Most women would have very little respect for a man who is cheating because his wife has had a mastectomy but an insensitive woman may accept weight issues as a reason.

Your shallowness shines through as soon as you mentioned weight. Not every man likes to f@*k a skeleton.

Edited

Thank you for sharing your story, but there's no way the wife and dh aren't having sex!

Dweetfidilove · 25/10/2024 13:24

ncgfryhfdg · 25/10/2024 08:24

Lots of unnecessary back story on your sad life to justify why you had an 8 year long affair with a married man…
You were wrong and so was he, end of.
Sounds like he made pathetic non-attempts to cool it several times but you’ve still pursued him and of course he’s unable to control himself!🤦‍♀️
You're now bitter because he’s come into some money and can retire early whilst you will have to carry on working so want to tell his poor wife as a form of revenge.
FFS.

Thanks for the summary, as that was TLDR.

I agree with your advice too.

@NameChange6025 , get yourself to counselling so you can work on improving your health- mental and physical- and start moving forward.

usernother · 25/10/2024 13:26

Sounds to me like you ended your marriage with hope that you and the OM would end up together. You've been stung but it serves you right. He hasn't 'got away' with anything. You'll be telling his wife out of spite. Don't.

idrinkandiknowthings · 25/10/2024 13:30

OP, if you're still reading you really do need to own your mistake.

I was a OW. He ended it by gradual ghosting in cowardly fashion. We were both in the wrong by conducting the affair. I'd never have told his wife and never will.

BeenThere101 · 25/10/2024 14:02

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noweddingnocry · 25/10/2024 14:09

His wife deserves to know what a piece of shit she is married to so she can make decisions about her future .

TheFormidableMrsC · 25/10/2024 14:17

noweddingnocry · 25/10/2024 14:09

His wife deserves to know what a piece of shit she is married to so she can make decisions about her future .

Not from a bitter and angry OW though.

TheFormidableMrsC · 25/10/2024 14:18

Thommasina · 25/10/2024 12:05

I think the wife should know, surely? Poor woman.

Again, not from an OW hell bent on revenge.

WFHforevermore · 25/10/2024 14:33

Thommasina · 25/10/2024 12:05

I think the wife should know, surely? Poor woman.

I agree, i would want to know if my DH was whoring around with multiple women. He'll do it again and again. She deserves someone better.

He will hate the OP, but she deserves that sadly.

Thommasina · 25/10/2024 14:37

TheFormidableMrsC · 25/10/2024 14:18

Again, not from an OW hell bent on revenge.

Why not? I think she deserves to know, and if this is the way then yes.

LifeExperience · 25/10/2024 14:39

Coming at this purely from the vantage point of a woman who was cheated on, I wish someone had told me. I deserved to know.

If you think the wife knows and is putting up with it for her own reasons, then don't say anything. If you suspect she doesn't know then tell her. Yes, you're doing it out of spite, but he doesn't deserve to be protected, and she deserves to know that he's putting her health at risk.

coxesorangepippin · 25/10/2024 14:43

What would I do???

Nothing

CharlotteSometimes1 · 25/10/2024 14:45

Got away with what? Having an affair? You knew you were the ow from day one, he made you no promises in fact the only promise he made was to his wife.

what has their finances got to do with it?

MrRobinsonsQuango · 25/10/2024 14:50

Katrinawaves · 25/10/2024 08:06

If I was fat, unsuccessful professionally and had very few or no friends, I’d get myself some therapy personally. What I wouldn’t do is put myself on an online fuck site and target married men on it. And I definitely wouldn’t then go on to tell his unsuspecting wife on or just after their 20th wedding anniversary because I’m a bitter and jealous failure in life.

For the love of god get some self respect and morals. He shouldn’t have been on that website either and is no better than you but none of this is his wife’s fault.

You should be thoroughly ashamed of yourself and with morals like yours it’s little surprise your life is the screaming failure you depict.

Edited

I think it was the OM's wife who was fat, rather than OP

SophiaJ8 · 25/10/2024 14:53

MrRobinsonsQuango · 25/10/2024 14:50

I think it was the OM's wife who was fat, rather than OP

Love how the OP had to get that misogynistic little detail in though.

‘He doesn’t want to sleep with her any longer, as she’s fat, he realllllllyyy wanted to sleep with me…. Except now he doesn’t.

Oh and he was probably always still sleeping with her, they always are. Cheaters handbook 101.

Angrymum22 · 25/10/2024 15:01

Thommasina · 25/10/2024 13:12

Thank you for sharing your story, but there's no way the wife and dh aren't having sex!

I agree and I think that most OW are just very naive. The OP has had an on/off relationship with her OM, I think she got caught but OM didn’t and her post is all about trying to put him through what she has suffered.
OM’s wife may be blissfully unaware but he’s either very lucky or she doesn’t really care. If she has a fantastic lifestyle and they are good friends she may turn a blind eye. Men lie.
After 8yrs he is unlikely to want to change anything.

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