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Do I tell his wife?

143 replies

NameChange6025 · 25/10/2024 07:56

I know I will get a lot of grief over this post but I want to know what I should do. Walk away (and suffer in silence for the rest of my life) or say something.

I was married. As is he. I was in a sexless marriage and it was clear to be many years ago that my marriage was nothing more than a friendship. OM also married. He, to this day, insists his marriage is also sexless and it is his doing as he doesn’t find her attractive.

I went through a particularly bad part in life about 8 years ago. Lost close family (cancer and accident), was over-looked at work for a job I had worked hard to get (job went to manager’s personal friend) and a colleague ended up being forced out as she raised issues with the recruitment process (they made her life hell and she left and I lost a close colleague, who was my senior). I, and I was completely unaware at the time, hit menopause (at the younger end of the average age range). I became a different person once my periods stopped. I didn’t want to be around people, got anxiety and felt overwhelmed with everything. I went to the GP but was fobbed off. I came away empty handed and never went back. I also experienced, what I now know, is the sex surge of menopause. This went on for a couple of years. Just felt ridiculously horny all the time! Even started dressing differently and acting more confidently (which got me the promotion elsewhere). I am ashamed to say, I started chatting to men online and started to realise I had no sexual relationship with my husband (11 years my senior). I had been very naive and married in my early twenties. Never been with anyone else and had hidden myself away as a teenager rather than go out and meet people. I felt different through the menopause and started to analyse my marriage. We had no affection in the marriage. No kissing, no hugs and no sex. There had been no sex for over 11 years (it’s now 17-18 years). He was also poor in the bedroom (and very selfish) and, again through lack of experience, I didn’t know any different but felt under-whelmed until, eventually, I stopped it.

My feelings through the menopause led to me seeking out male companionship, and it was obvious I was craving something else.

I chatted to a few and found it a bit sleazy and well, stopped. Then went on again one night and chatted to a man at the other end of the country. We hit it off like old friends. It was very obvious we were going to get on well. We, we did. We spent hours and hours chatting online and on the phone. He told me, at the time, he didn’t get on with his wife, they didn’t connect, didn’t spend any time together and had no sex life. I, stupidly, remembered these words and even more stupidly, started to develop feelings for him. It became sexual on the phone and we both enjoyed it. I certainly did as I’d never experienced that before (and I have bottled up a lot of passion inside for years). He never wanted to meet and would cut contact if we came close or it went too far. He would say he gets carried away. But, I was experiencing a passionate man for the first time. We met after a year - we went for a drink and he chatted to me as a friend and I thought he’d drop me off at my hotel. He came
in and we chatted and had tea a while. We ended up kissing but he pulled away and it was obvious he had ‘snapped out of it’. He actually cut contact. He returned a couple of weeks later to say how attractive I was and that he couldn’t keep his hands off of me. I know I should’ve stopped it but I was already falling for him at this point. Like a fool.

He would say he got carried away and would pull back from the ‘friendship’ but it was obvious we got on well. He was very different to
my husband and gave lots of care and attention. By the way, I did end my marriage at this point as it made me realise there was something seriously wrong with my relationship at home.

OM and I met every time I went down to the area and we ended up having passionate sex over and over. Of course, I was in love with him by now. It has gone on 8 years. He would feel guilty and then would butter me up again and it would start again. He would then start going quiet and started telling me he couldn’t give me what I deserved and that I was a nice lady, blah blah. He did stop phoning me as much over time. It went from daily phone calls (some many hours long) to one a month, and completely platonic.

Through some detective work, I got hold of some
photos of his wife and their wedding date. It was obvious his 20th wedding anniversary was coming up. Of course, the increased guilt and approaching anniversary led to him being increasingly quiet. I decided to go and see
him (twice) to talk as I wanted answers as to why he had led me a line etc. We went for a walk and he sat me by a lake. We chatted. He said he felt like he wanted to be hit by a truck each time we’d met (guilt). He said he loved his wife and was never going to be there for me. He had been encouraging me to join a gym, badminton group
to meet people. Anyway, we met again and again ended up in bed. Then he started going quiet after I got upset and told him I was in love with him. Yes, I know. I am an idiot. I was
worried he was going to go. He said he wouldn’t and I wanted to remain friends. I went
down again last week and we chatted for hours. He came to my room and sat in a chair
and told me more about his marriage. He said there was no sex life but that they were best friends and looked after/out for each other. He said he wasn’t attracted to her (weight) and he was the one who stopped the sex but they have an affectionate marriage , apparently. This isn’t what he told me, initially. I then got a lecture on how marriage is more than just sex. He admitted he had been using chat sites on and off since shortly after their marriage. He had been looking at what he wanted out of life and realised he was being unfair to his wife and to me. He stopped using the sites years ago (I do
believe this) but remained friends with me as he ‘thought a lot of me’. He has asked
me numerous times to meet other people (in the hope of finding a man who can give me what I deserve).

Anyway, anniversary was the other day and guess what? He has deleted his FB account and messenger has gone with it! I have his number and he doesn’t seem to have blocked me on there but it’s obvious he wants me to move on.

However, apart from being in love with him (like an idiot), I now have £20k solicitor fees repay and sell the house. Meaning I have lost my financial future and I am now completely alone. I ended up leaving the job as it was too far away and Covid caused issues and I now in another job that also involves a night away (at my expense) and I don’t like it. I am very unhappy in my life and in a much worse position to what I was 8 years ago. Still alone. I tried dating sites to avoid the above with no luck. I didn’t like anyone and my feelings for OM were too strong.

OM has met someone before. He told me. He said he was guilty for years but ended up
doing it again. They have inherited money recently and both are retiring early (she is 60
and he is 54). Meanwhile, I will have to work till 67 and pay another mortgage after being mortgage free for years. My children live with their father mostly.

I am very hurt he has deleted his account without actually telling me first. It is obvious he wants to move on and get on with his life as if nothing has happened.

My life is in tatters. I am seriously unhappy in my life now. So much so, I am having dark thoughts creep in. I want to tell his wife. He has completely spun me a line. The guilt kicks in and he starts again. I know who she is and where she is. What would you do?

OP posts:
Babbahabba · 25/10/2024 09:09

Why aren't you more bothered about your lack of a relationship with your children? That should be the focus of your energy and attention. Forget him, he's in your past. Your children will always be your children so concentrate on rebuilding bridges with them.

ErickBroch · 25/10/2024 09:11

All I took from this is that you're fuming that he and his wife are retiring early and you are not. You want to be in her position. You have no remorse, at all.

Bagonerves · 25/10/2024 09:11

Bloody el people can be harsh on here 🙃

I feel like your backstory was quite telling and you was stuck between a rock and a hard place (in your marriage) for a long time- so therefore relevant.

i also know menopause can contribute to ‘acting out of character’ for a lot of women also.

Sounds like you really need to focus on YOU for once OP, I would also like to point out that you’ve just grabbed freedom.. run with it!!!

For the first time in your life you have no man dictating a thing to you, a good and solid built career (just not with your current post maybe but a job change can sort that), a new home to look forward to etc.

This man sounds like you wouldn’t want to end up with him no matter what my love so count your blessings (I know that’s hard when love comes into play but I think you’ll find.. it was never love.. more limerance and prospect of what if I had someone that gave me time, attention and good sex- he wouldn’t have sustained that as he doesn’t sustain it even with his ‘best friend’).

Cut yourself some slack, get some therapy, do the people around you and yourself proud and grab this new life by the balls.

To answer the question though.. no, I don’t think telling this poor woman a thing about your affair would help anyone.. especially you.

Head held high.. walk away.

WhimsicalGubbins76 · 25/10/2024 09:13

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MillyMollyMandHey · 25/10/2024 09:15

So much unnecessary detail on your nonsense reasons why the affair isn't your fault, and little to no detail on why you have 20k solicitor fees and don't see much of your children, the important things in life.

It's easy to see where your priorities lie and why your life is such a mess.

Colourfulduvets · 25/10/2024 09:15

Married men of a certain age make very different decisions about their marriages when money comes into it.

He is opting to stay with his wife because together they can afford to retire early and live a comfortable life.

No doubt he will continue with his shady ways and will convince another woman to give him.the sex & excitement he craves.
Who knows - the wife might be fully aware & doesn't care, also opting for the lifestyle their marriage brings.

I don't think you telling her will have the effect you think it will and you will just feel worse in the long run.

As pp have said, cut off contact with this man and get some counselling if you can to help you move on in a positive way.
He's not worth any more hassle in your life and deep down you know this.

EverybodyLovesString · 25/10/2024 09:16

Why have you been accepting these terrible relationships? A husband who gave you no affection. A married man who tossed you aside when you were of no further use to him. Have you ever had therapy to find out why you choose men who can only give you crumbs?

You don't love this man, he was just a fantasy escape from your unhappiness. You don't even know the real him. To him, it wasn't a relationship. For him, any woman who made herself available for sex would have done. Telling his wife will not bring you closure, it won't do anything other than destroy another woman who has never done anything to you.

You need a psychologist who can help you take responsibility for the choices you made and move towards a healthier life.

Snorlaxo · 25/10/2024 09:16

NameChange6025 · 25/10/2024 08:50

I feel that he has got away with it and has strung me along. I am well aware that we were both in the wrong.

You used him as an escape and he used him as an escape.

His wife might know or stay with him after you expose him so you may never get the satisfaction of her leaving him. Even if she did leave, it doesn’t mean that he’d get with you.

You can’t be angry that you were more invested in the “relationship “ than he was. Just because you had great chemistry 8 years ago, he’s not obliged to stay. It sounds like he wanted to ghost you years ago but your meetings continued because you aggressively pursued him and he couldn’t say no. yanbu to be embarrassed that you fell for his lines about his marriage so he could get you into bed but that’s not his or his wife’s fault. You knew that he was married and that the longer it went on, the less likely he was to leave but chose to ignore that.

Your post is full of blame directed at other people but little acknowledgment that you pursued him because you wanted him and it didn’t matter that he was married. You chose to ignore stereotypical lines that horny men feed women because it suited you as you were getting what you wanted. It’s not OM fault that you decided to divorce - it sounds like this was inevitable because you’d grown apart from your ex. It’s not his fault that he picked his head and heart over his dick. It would be easier for you if he’s never met you but you did the mental gymnastics around his marriage and need to take blame for that too.

I’m not saying he’s a saint. He’s just as sleazy as you and I would tell him that if he’d written the post. Whatever his reasons, he’s over the “relationship” and you need to accept that. Yanbu to feel annoyed that you didn’t do the same as him and balance financials with shagging around but that’s on you.

Thommasina · 25/10/2024 09:17

Oh god, you have kids! I missed that part. I agree with trying to be a more present parent for them.

Also - I was struck by your choices. "Walk away (and suffer in silence for the rest of my life) or say something."

Why are these the only two choices available to you?

Cattery · 25/10/2024 09:18

Katrinawaves · 25/10/2024 08:06

If I was fat, unsuccessful professionally and had very few or no friends, I’d get myself some therapy personally. What I wouldn’t do is put myself on an online fuck site and target married men on it. And I definitely wouldn’t then go on to tell his unsuspecting wife on or just after their 20th wedding anniversary because I’m a bitter and jealous failure in life.

For the love of god get some self respect and morals. He shouldn’t have been on that website either and is no better than you but none of this is his wife’s fault.

You should be thoroughly ashamed of yourself and with morals like yours it’s little surprise your life is the screaming failure you depict.

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RedPalace · 25/10/2024 09:18

You'll get a lot of harsh posts - and honestly some you deserve. But fundamentally the last paragraph sums it up My life is in tatters. I am seriously unhappy in my life now. So much so, I am having dark thoughts creep in Get help on this. Seek therapy, build a new life, reconnect with your children. Whatever happened with this man is a messy distraction.

Thommasina · 25/10/2024 09:19

The only reason I would encourage you to tell his wife is for her sake, so she knows what a prince she's married to.

MilletOver · 25/10/2024 09:23

You didn’t feel the need to tell his wife while you were repeatedly shagging him all those years!

He hasn’t strung you along, he was clear from the start with his guilt, his pulling back etc, that he was married and not planning to leave.

You put a lot of blame on him and portray yourself as a passive victim: ‘he sat me in a bench by a lake’ … what drugged you and dragged you there? Or is it just an idea you find romantic or tragic in some way?

You were in a boring sexless marriage, you sought a distraction- but didn’t take responsibility for your emotional need.

Hindsight is all so easy, but you needed a fresh start, not a distraction. You got the sex but not emotional security.

That is not his fault.

You have a job, you now have the chance to make a fresh start.

Telling his wife out if bitter spite won’t make you feel better.

And if it did, that is to your detriment. You shouldn’t need to harm others to heal yourself.

mamajong · 25/10/2024 09:24

OP it's hard to feel sorry for you that you've been hurt by an affair you started, but I actually do as you seem.to have low self esteem and life has taught you some harsh lessons.

As this point you can either pick up the pieces, learn the lessons, take some time to get therapy and heal so you can avoid the same mistakes OR you blow up the life of an innocent lady seemingly out of Jealosy that you've messed up.your life.

Don't throw good energy after bad, this man is not who you need and blowing up his life with his poor wife as collateral.damage won't make you feel better in the long run.

Allofthelightsss · 25/10/2024 09:33

The mention of your debt and them coming into money ALMOST sounds like you’re tempted to blackmail him? OP you need therapy, and quickly. You have pretty much stalked this man, demanding to meet up when he pulled away and now thinking of telling his wife?

You are just as much to blame as him. Do yourself a favour and shift your focus to your children.

AccountCreateUsername · 25/10/2024 09:33

NameChange6025 · 25/10/2024 08:50

I feel that he has got away with it and has strung me along. I am well aware that we were both in the wrong.

What did you expect OP? It’s shit but you’ve wasted good years with someone who isn’t invested in you. And it sounds like you’ve changed your life to accommodate the affair (sorry skimmed parts of your OP) so I get that it hurts that you feel you’ve been left with little and OM and his wife still have their life.

Your best bet is to concentrate on yourself, your kids and your future. Anything else is a waste of your energy

EnterAUsername · 25/10/2024 09:33

SophiaJ8 · 25/10/2024 09:05

Nothing in your post justifies your behaviour, or makes you the victim.

He was not in a sexless marriage, he was never going to leave his wife, you were not the only one he was talking to online.

It was just another grubby little affair.

This with bells on.

And you knew it deep down, but had fantasised in your dreamy little head that you'd be the one to change him. He'd fall in love with you and you'd ride off into the sunset together.

Your post reads like some sickly romantic novel, and that's what you've built it into in your own mind. But in reality you were simply used by a sleazy cheat who shags vulnerable women with low self esteem on chat sites for cheap thrills.

I think you'd benefit from some therapy tbh.

Victoriancat · 25/10/2024 09:36

Therapy, get out there and make some friends and don't ever be the OW again, it's disgusting, leave his wife alone too it's not her bloody fault.

Happysandysummer · 25/10/2024 09:38

If you tell his wife do not assume she will just accept it. Other women are loathed and you could find a whole new Pandora’s box opening. Potentially you family, children, work etc. could be informed of your behaviour.

kingcobra · 25/10/2024 09:41

TwistedWonder · 25/10/2024 09:03

He hasn’t strung you along ffs. You willingly went back she sex again and again knowing he was married. You’re a grown adult woman not a naive young thing who knew no better.

Now because his life is in a better place than yours, you're bitter and see him as getting away with it rather than you taking accountability for your own shit choices.

Get a grip, stop acting like a victim and move on with your life.

The only innocent party is his wife so leave her in peace and don’t drop a bomb into her life as petty jealous revenge. I’m all for the wife knowing her husband is a POS but only if it’s time for the right reasons and your bitterness and .spite are not good reasons.

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Yep- I am lol that you call it being "strung along"- he fed you every cliched line in the cheaters handbook 😆

You are a grown woman and knew exactly what you were getting into so dont play the victim here because you arent.

Take responsibility for your life choices and look for ways to improve your life instead of spouting bile and revenge plans to bring the wife down in order to make yourself feel better about yourself. Its not a good look and will only further cage you in the misery that you yourself caused.

You have a choice here- dont make a stupid one all over again.

Trumptonagain · 25/10/2024 09:44

You went out specifically looking to have an affair..

He led you on because you were ripe for being led on.

What do you want to get out of telling his wife, him to leave her for you so you can, in your mind, live happily ever after or for her to end up as sad as you?

2Little · 25/10/2024 09:46

What will you get from blowing his life up? Revenge, because he doesn't want you? You're upset he got away with it but he wouldn't have got away with anything, at least with you, if you wasn't readily available and pursuing an affair with him. You knew he was married from the beginning. Your acting all betrayed but you weren't worried about betrayal when you were married and pursuing a married man or subsequently shagging a married man. Walk away with a bit of dignity and sort out your own life. Anything else will just bring you unnecessary drama. Stop being his beck and call person. You don't need to be the person to scratch his itch. Find someone single instead.

Edingril · 25/10/2024 09:46

You have ticked every 'poor me' box I can think of, you cheated own it and don't put it on to anyone else to make yourself feel better

LozC0411 · 25/10/2024 09:48

Edingril · 25/10/2024 09:46

You have ticked every 'poor me' box I can think of, you cheated own it and don't put it on to anyone else to make yourself feel better

👏👏exactly this

AmICrazyToEvenBother · 25/10/2024 09:50

I hope they don't have a pet rabbit!