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Do I tell his wife?

143 replies

NameChange6025 · 25/10/2024 07:56

I know I will get a lot of grief over this post but I want to know what I should do. Walk away (and suffer in silence for the rest of my life) or say something.

I was married. As is he. I was in a sexless marriage and it was clear to be many years ago that my marriage was nothing more than a friendship. OM also married. He, to this day, insists his marriage is also sexless and it is his doing as he doesn’t find her attractive.

I went through a particularly bad part in life about 8 years ago. Lost close family (cancer and accident), was over-looked at work for a job I had worked hard to get (job went to manager’s personal friend) and a colleague ended up being forced out as she raised issues with the recruitment process (they made her life hell and she left and I lost a close colleague, who was my senior). I, and I was completely unaware at the time, hit menopause (at the younger end of the average age range). I became a different person once my periods stopped. I didn’t want to be around people, got anxiety and felt overwhelmed with everything. I went to the GP but was fobbed off. I came away empty handed and never went back. I also experienced, what I now know, is the sex surge of menopause. This went on for a couple of years. Just felt ridiculously horny all the time! Even started dressing differently and acting more confidently (which got me the promotion elsewhere). I am ashamed to say, I started chatting to men online and started to realise I had no sexual relationship with my husband (11 years my senior). I had been very naive and married in my early twenties. Never been with anyone else and had hidden myself away as a teenager rather than go out and meet people. I felt different through the menopause and started to analyse my marriage. We had no affection in the marriage. No kissing, no hugs and no sex. There had been no sex for over 11 years (it’s now 17-18 years). He was also poor in the bedroom (and very selfish) and, again through lack of experience, I didn’t know any different but felt under-whelmed until, eventually, I stopped it.

My feelings through the menopause led to me seeking out male companionship, and it was obvious I was craving something else.

I chatted to a few and found it a bit sleazy and well, stopped. Then went on again one night and chatted to a man at the other end of the country. We hit it off like old friends. It was very obvious we were going to get on well. We, we did. We spent hours and hours chatting online and on the phone. He told me, at the time, he didn’t get on with his wife, they didn’t connect, didn’t spend any time together and had no sex life. I, stupidly, remembered these words and even more stupidly, started to develop feelings for him. It became sexual on the phone and we both enjoyed it. I certainly did as I’d never experienced that before (and I have bottled up a lot of passion inside for years). He never wanted to meet and would cut contact if we came close or it went too far. He would say he gets carried away. But, I was experiencing a passionate man for the first time. We met after a year - we went for a drink and he chatted to me as a friend and I thought he’d drop me off at my hotel. He came
in and we chatted and had tea a while. We ended up kissing but he pulled away and it was obvious he had ‘snapped out of it’. He actually cut contact. He returned a couple of weeks later to say how attractive I was and that he couldn’t keep his hands off of me. I know I should’ve stopped it but I was already falling for him at this point. Like a fool.

He would say he got carried away and would pull back from the ‘friendship’ but it was obvious we got on well. He was very different to
my husband and gave lots of care and attention. By the way, I did end my marriage at this point as it made me realise there was something seriously wrong with my relationship at home.

OM and I met every time I went down to the area and we ended up having passionate sex over and over. Of course, I was in love with him by now. It has gone on 8 years. He would feel guilty and then would butter me up again and it would start again. He would then start going quiet and started telling me he couldn’t give me what I deserved and that I was a nice lady, blah blah. He did stop phoning me as much over time. It went from daily phone calls (some many hours long) to one a month, and completely platonic.

Through some detective work, I got hold of some
photos of his wife and their wedding date. It was obvious his 20th wedding anniversary was coming up. Of course, the increased guilt and approaching anniversary led to him being increasingly quiet. I decided to go and see
him (twice) to talk as I wanted answers as to why he had led me a line etc. We went for a walk and he sat me by a lake. We chatted. He said he felt like he wanted to be hit by a truck each time we’d met (guilt). He said he loved his wife and was never going to be there for me. He had been encouraging me to join a gym, badminton group
to meet people. Anyway, we met again and again ended up in bed. Then he started going quiet after I got upset and told him I was in love with him. Yes, I know. I am an idiot. I was
worried he was going to go. He said he wouldn’t and I wanted to remain friends. I went
down again last week and we chatted for hours. He came to my room and sat in a chair
and told me more about his marriage. He said there was no sex life but that they were best friends and looked after/out for each other. He said he wasn’t attracted to her (weight) and he was the one who stopped the sex but they have an affectionate marriage , apparently. This isn’t what he told me, initially. I then got a lecture on how marriage is more than just sex. He admitted he had been using chat sites on and off since shortly after their marriage. He had been looking at what he wanted out of life and realised he was being unfair to his wife and to me. He stopped using the sites years ago (I do
believe this) but remained friends with me as he ‘thought a lot of me’. He has asked
me numerous times to meet other people (in the hope of finding a man who can give me what I deserve).

Anyway, anniversary was the other day and guess what? He has deleted his FB account and messenger has gone with it! I have his number and he doesn’t seem to have blocked me on there but it’s obvious he wants me to move on.

However, apart from being in love with him (like an idiot), I now have £20k solicitor fees repay and sell the house. Meaning I have lost my financial future and I am now completely alone. I ended up leaving the job as it was too far away and Covid caused issues and I now in another job that also involves a night away (at my expense) and I don’t like it. I am very unhappy in my life and in a much worse position to what I was 8 years ago. Still alone. I tried dating sites to avoid the above with no luck. I didn’t like anyone and my feelings for OM were too strong.

OM has met someone before. He told me. He said he was guilty for years but ended up
doing it again. They have inherited money recently and both are retiring early (she is 60
and he is 54). Meanwhile, I will have to work till 67 and pay another mortgage after being mortgage free for years. My children live with their father mostly.

I am very hurt he has deleted his account without actually telling me first. It is obvious he wants to move on and get on with his life as if nothing has happened.

My life is in tatters. I am seriously unhappy in my life now. So much so, I am having dark thoughts creep in. I want to tell his wife. He has completely spun me a line. The guilt kicks in and he starts again. I know who she is and where she is. What would you do?

OP posts:
blahblahtrue · 25/10/2024 09:53

What exactly do you expect to gain by telling his wife? Do you honestly think he’ll come running back to you? Or is it simply because you're so unhappy with the situation that you want him to feel just as miserable?

Jessie1259 · 25/10/2024 09:59

You were never more than a shag on the side for him, he wasn't the one declaring his love - he called you 'a nice lady'. That should have told you everything you needed to know.

Are you hoping that by telling his wife they'll split and he'll come back to you and you'll live happily ever after? Because i can promise you that is not going to happen.

middleagedandinarage · 25/10/2024 10:00

I feel for you OP and can see why you're so bitter but honestly telling his wife and making him hate you will not make you feel better! You need to move on and forget about him for your own sake. To be honest it sounds like he made it clear on multiple occasions that his wife would come 1st and you kept pursuing him, I don't think telling his wife will do you any favours.

TwistedWonder · 25/10/2024 10:01

blahblahtrue · 25/10/2024 09:53

What exactly do you expect to gain by telling his wife? Do you honestly think he’ll come running back to you? Or is it simply because you're so unhappy with the situation that you want him to feel just as miserable?

Think it’s a case of I’ve fucked up my life so I’m going to fuck up yours as well.

ManhattanPopcorn · 25/10/2024 10:02

You are not happy with your life. Telling her would create a whole new shit show and make you even more unhappy in your life.

A bit of a theme in your story is that you seem view your life as a series of things that happened to you rather than a series of decisions you made and things that you chose to do. You chose to have an affair and all of the complications that come with that. You chose to get divorced and all of the implications of that. You are choosing to stay in a job that you don't like.

This man is not part of your new life. Move on. You need grab the reigns and own your decisions going forward.

LozC0411 · 25/10/2024 10:03

This thread is just sad. I think you were hoping people would be on your side due to the other sob stories you included but its not been the case... Your miserable so you want to make the other woman miserable when your the sole reason for it. The fact your children mainly see their dad too shows what your priorities are.
Get off the grimey chat sites, leave the married man alone, get some help and focus on your life, children and work.

Starlight7080 · 25/10/2024 10:03

You need to block him and stop focusing on him and his wife.
Rebuild your own life. Try to get a better relationship with your children .
And get some hobbies .

AwayInTheFlat · 25/10/2024 10:08

You sound very unwell op. Get some professional help, it is not healthy or normal behaviour to persue a married man. Especially for so many years! How did you fall for such rubbish.

If he wanted to be with you he would be. If he wanted to leave his marriage he would have. Men tend to be pretty uncomplicated in that way. The fact is he never wanted to be in a proper relationship with you, you were just good for casual sex and an occasional distraction from day to day life.

Oh and of course he was having sex with his wife…more fool you to believe otherwise!

LostittoBostik · 25/10/2024 10:10

You won't have been the only one he had going at the same time. His wife probably knows anyway and has chosen this life. She may be non monogamous herself. She maybe staying with for financial security. She may be asexual and genuinely best friends with her DH and feels no jealousy at him meeting those needs elsewhere.

As others have said: focus on yourself. Get therapy. Work out the life YOU want and live it. If you want more than sex, only date men who are able to give that, freely so and want to do so.

Moveoverdarlin · 25/10/2024 10:10

I don’t think he’s spun you a line at all. He has been a reluctant ‘other man’ from the start. He always said he’d never leave her and he was wracked with guilt after you met up. Yes he’s a shit, but he never said he hated her. You both sound like nice people. Don’t fuck up his life. Just leave it. He always said he didn’t want to meet up with you from the off, whilst he has been cheating on his wife, he does sound like a he has some morals somewhere.

AdviceNeeded2024 · 25/10/2024 10:10

All the things you listed, the unnecessary backstory is irrelevant here. Almost like you’ve listed them so people will feel sorry for you or so you can justify what you did and continue to be the victim in your mind.

You pursued this man knowing he was married. He pursued you back knowing he’d get sex. He didn’t lie about being married. After years of seeing him he still didn’t leave his wife for you, yet you continued. It was obvious he wasn’t going to do this. He hasn’t ’strung you along’ at all, he was encouraging you to find someone and told you he is staying married. He still had sex with you because it was freely offered on a plate.

Now he’s retiring with what he describes as his best friend to what sounds like a nice life, and you think he doesn’t deserve it because you’ve ended up in an unhappy place.

You will gain nothing from telling his wife, although I suspect you will tell her, they may remain together if you do tell but one things for sure he won’t decide to get together with you. I don’t know what you hope to achieve by telling her?

It is unclear why you are hinging so much on this man, you need to move on. And in future don’t have affairs with people who are unavailable.

Sounds like you need to work on yourself, stop blaming others for where you are, and get some therapy to help you come to terms with this. Maybe once you are in a better place you’ll meet someone nice if you do want to be in a relationship.

TentEntWenTyfOur · 25/10/2024 10:11

NameChange6025 · 25/10/2024 08:50

I feel that he has got away with it and has strung me along. I am well aware that we were both in the wrong.

And you want to punish him by destroying his wife's happiness?

Whatineed · 25/10/2024 10:12

I'm not understanding why the job loss, 20k solicitors fees and moving home have anything to do with this man, and least of all his poor innocent wife?

Where is your husband in all this? Does he financially support all your hotel bills, mobile phone bills for online sex chats and trips to the lake?

AnneLovesGilbert · 25/10/2024 10:12

You were going to get divorced anyway so you can’t blame him for that, or the £20k debt, or your poor relationship with your children, or a job you don’t like, or the scarcity of good men on dating apps.

Telling her won’t undo any of that.

You’ve hopefully got decades yet to live so work out why you hung on to him for 8 long years, what you’re really looking for and then make whatever changes you can to improve your life. I think you’ll tell her anyway but it won’t give you what you want. It sounds like she wouldn’t be surprised and they’ll probably stay together anyway. You’ve got nothing to gain but revenge and that won’t keep you warm at night or improve your bank balance.

Gonk123 · 25/10/2024 10:13

NameChange6025 · 25/10/2024 08:50

I feel that he has got away with it and has strung me along. I am well aware that we were both in the wrong.

He hasn’t strung you along. He told you all the way that it was a friendship. He kept pulling back. You chose not to listen to that and stuck by in the hope that he would change his mind. He was never going to change his mind, surely you are old enough to realise this? No one is that naive are they?

TwistedWonder · 25/10/2024 10:15

How old were your children when you split from your husband? Surely they should have been your priority rather than charging cheap easy sex with random blokes online?

Im not saying parents shouldn’t date far from it but your OP sounds like pursuing this man was your priority and it’s damaged your relationship with your children.

Don't make things even worse by throwing a grenade into another marriage

Snorlaxo · 25/10/2024 10:15

Next time you look for a new partner, try to be more clear headed rather than led by your libido. Online sex sites have a reputation for casual sex for good reason. You fulfilled a need he had at the time but now he’s moved on. You were probably not his only mistress and need to accept that the sort of man you’re going to meet on that kind of site is unlikely to be one that you’d want long term because those sites are about casual encounters.

While you were looking for casual in the beginning, you got sucked into wanting something long term. I think that if you enjoy dating, then date casually again but keep your head screwed on this time and avoid married men.

SnoopysHoose · 25/10/2024 10:16

Dear god, that was a ramble and a half!!
He's been trying to offload you for years and you just keep turning up in his area, take the hint and move on.
Nothing was ever going to come of this, you cannot be this naive.
Despite reading the lengthy OP I seem to have missed where the house sale and fees come in to it??

BMW6 · 25/10/2024 10:16

Whatineed · 25/10/2024 10:12

I'm not understanding why the job loss, 20k solicitors fees and moving home have anything to do with this man, and least of all his poor innocent wife?

Where is your husband in all this? Does he financially support all your hotel bills, mobile phone bills for online sex chats and trips to the lake?

When I read it I thought the OP is planning to blackmail him.

MillyMollyMandHey · 25/10/2024 10:17

He's been trying to offload you for years and you just keep turning up in his area, take the hint and move on.

👏

Whatineed · 25/10/2024 10:20

BMW6 · 25/10/2024 10:16

When I read it I thought the OP is planning to blackmail him.

It was my first thought too @BMW6

AdviceNeeded2024 · 25/10/2024 10:21

BMW6 · 25/10/2024 10:16

When I read it I thought the OP is planning to blackmail him.

Hmmm interesting, just re-read it myself and you might be right

Elektra1 · 25/10/2024 10:21

The end of your post reads like you want to tell his wife as some sort of weird revenge driven by the fact that you need money, he's got money, and he's not helped you financially. Is this a blackmail situation? "Give me £20k not to tell your wife?"

If so, get a grip. Blackmail is a crime you can be imprisoned for.

If not, also get a grip. You had an affair over several years during which time you had many opportunities to get the message he was giving you, which was that he was not going to leave his wife because he loves her.

He's a bloke, he found you attractive, and he was led by his dick. You allowed that. You wasted years of your own life in the process.

Get some therapy to work out why you have such low self esteem that you allowed this to happen. Do not tell his wife. She probably has more than an inkling of what sort of man he is anyway. In the unlikely event that she were to leave him, what would you have achieved? He's not going to run to you if you do that - he'll blame you for ruining his life.

Just move on. Never contact him (or his wife) again.

Icanttakethisanymore · 25/10/2024 10:25

NameChange6025 · 25/10/2024 08:50

I feel that he has got away with it and has strung me along. I am well aware that we were both in the wrong.

He may have gotten away with it but I don’t think you can feel hard done by - aside from not leaving his wife for you (which he never said he’d do), he has not wronged you. You’re just bitter that he doesn’t love you. That must be hard to take, but unfortunately this was always the most likely outcome when you got involved with a married man… but surely you know that?

Icanttakethisanymore · 25/10/2024 10:26

TwistedWonder · 25/10/2024 10:01

Think it’s a case of I’ve fucked up my life so I’m going to fuck up yours as well.

Misery loves company