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What pushed your partner to propose?

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deliciouslytwo · 27/09/2024 12:05

This is probably your typical post of 'woman who does too much and man who doesn't seem to appreciate it all that much'.

I'm 27F, my partner is 35M (turning 36 in a few weeks). There's about 9 years between us. We've been together 18 months. We've lived together 'officially' since July, but have practically lived together since the beginning of the relationship, so there haven't been any real changes since July.

He has a young son from a previous relationship that ended when she cheated. Before this, he was married and divorced, a relationship that again was ended due to his ex-wife cheating. He has a lot of trauma from this but he'd been single from long-term/serious relationships for about 3 years when I met him, and had also been in therapy.

Essentially: I do a lot, I feel like I'm doing wife duties on a girlfriend salary.

I've embraced his son, who is here 3/4 weekends a month (due to distance), helped with custody fights/documents (problems of neglect with mum) - both emotionally and financially, transformed my office into an (amazing, Pinterest inspired) bedroom for him, and do 95% of the cooking/cleaning/laundry/bins etc.

The latter point is mostly because we just have different 'standards' when it comes to doing things - I like to live in a fairly pristine environment, while my partner can deal with mess accumulating for a week or so and so doesn't feel the same urgency. E.g. I think dusting the skirting boards is important because they turn 'black' pretty quickly, he probably would never even consider dusting them and definitely doesn't notice when I do it.

We essentially function as a 'married couple' day to day, and I think I'm starting to grow a little resentful. A lot of my friends are now married/engaged/having children, and I feel a bit stuck, sort of like I'm playing wife/happy families and looking after a child that he's had with someone else. Meanwhile, I really want marriage and my own kids.

We had a bit of an argument a few weeks ago. He went out drinking with some friends and came back tipsy. I asked him about his timeline (innocently, we were watching MAFS!) and he said he hadn't really thought about it. I said that was disappointing (I was gutted internally), as he'd previously mentioned the 2 year point being a good time. He then started rambling a bit about his fears with marriage - that he had a bad experience before (fine, I get it), and that he has lots of worries - me cheating, for example, like his wife did. This was so wildly off-base and unfair (there was a heavy implication that I would somehow be capable of that), I've never given any hint or reason for this, and led to a pretty nasty argument over the following days.

He basically said that he wishes we were married already, that he hates the pressure, that he wants to marry me and always has (true - he said a few months in I wouldn't be waiting long), that I'm his person, etc. I just don't get why all the waiting around for something he says is 'inevitable'.

I can feel my fertility clock ticking. I've had past issues with fibroids (had a very large one removed via c-section in 2022), which means my fertility is a bit of a question mark. I'm not sure how much scar tissue is there (and so whether I can even carry a pregnancy), or if the fibroids will come back and I'll need more surgery before waiting 18 months for my uterus to heal - only to lead to more scarring. It's a bit messy.

He's said he's happy to stop preventing a pregnancy whenever I'm comfortable. I said ok, but if we do that before marriage, the baby is having my surname until we marry. He said no, and that we'll wait and do things properly then.

He gave a timeline when we resolved the argument of next June. This just makes me feel a bit sad though, like it's edging towards a 'shut up' ring. I'll be 28 in June, 29 when we marry, and then who knows how long it will take to get pregnant and give birth. Probably at least another 2 years - which all pushes me over 30. I always wanted to have kids before turning 30, so it's sad to have to manage my expectations. In the meantime, I just have to keep playing wife and looking after his child with someone else - which is really beginning to hurt my heart.

I'd love some advice, and maybe if anyone can relate, to hear your own stories.

Thank you!

OP posts:
lololulu · 02/10/2024 16:49

He never did. But we have been married ten years.

Aussieland · 02/10/2024 16:49

You want to spend the next 40 years doing the heavy lifting of housework and childcare? And feeling lucky because he married you? No. What does he bring?

Deadringer · 02/10/2024 16:50

Aside from love and companionship, men traditionally got married for sex and housekeeping, with a few dc thrown in. He already has everything he needs, why would he want to get married, especially with a failed marriage behind him.

OhDearMuriel · 02/10/2024 17:01

He's got everything he wants and needs, a kid and a lovely girlfriend 8 years younger than him.

Don't think for one minute, he won't waste your life. He will. It's a tale as old as time.

PaminaMozart · 02/10/2024 17:17

@Aussieland , @Deadringer , @OhDearMuriel..... between the three of you, you have pretty much nailed it.

@deliciouslytwo ...... pay heed - and act!

(NB: What exactly does he bring to your life...)

Dontbeme · 02/10/2024 18:08

18 months in and you provide housing for him and his son, "fight" in court for access to the son, decorate a room in your home for his son, do the majority of the housework, and are now bending yourself in knots to be good enough to win the grand prize of marrying this specimen. Plus your own mother thinks you won't do any better at the ripe old age of 27. If you were my daughter I would cry that this was what you thought you deserved.

My advice is to see a solicitor and make sure this guy has no claim to your home, move him back out again. If he changes his mind and wants to marry you he knows where you live, but the next time he comes back as an equal partner not expect you to be his mummy or nurse with a purse.

Tae1 · 02/10/2024 18:14

Dontbeme · 02/10/2024 18:08

18 months in and you provide housing for him and his son, "fight" in court for access to the son, decorate a room in your home for his son, do the majority of the housework, and are now bending yourself in knots to be good enough to win the grand prize of marrying this specimen. Plus your own mother thinks you won't do any better at the ripe old age of 27. If you were my daughter I would cry that this was what you thought you deserved.

My advice is to see a solicitor and make sure this guy has no claim to your home, move him back out again. If he changes his mind and wants to marry you he knows where you live, but the next time he comes back as an equal partner not expect you to be his mummy or nurse with a purse.

God love her, her posts drip with such desperation.
So sad.
I would be devastated to have reared my daughters to that age, having set themselves up in life successfully, to be throwing it all away on a man with a child who clearly is driven by her determination to provide him a home, skivvying, and a pick me dance dvery day🙄.
Her mother has so massively failed her.
She deserves so much better.

venusandmars · 02/10/2024 22:29

I imagine he has worries that things between us will collapse and he'll have a second divorce / a second child that he doesn't have (full) custody of.

He can't be that worried about the second child/custody issue if he's "happy to stop preventing a pregnancy whenever you're comfortable..."

Bascially, he's gained a lot from being with you - a bigger home, the security of not renting, someone to support him with his son (someone younger without arthritis!), someone would keeps the house to high standards so he doesn't really have to bother much. Nice.

And what have you got? Companionship, reduced bills (but that's the same for both of you).

Coldfinch · 06/10/2024 11:21

Dontbeme · 02/10/2024 18:08

18 months in and you provide housing for him and his son, "fight" in court for access to the son, decorate a room in your home for his son, do the majority of the housework, and are now bending yourself in knots to be good enough to win the grand prize of marrying this specimen. Plus your own mother thinks you won't do any better at the ripe old age of 27. If you were my daughter I would cry that this was what you thought you deserved.

My advice is to see a solicitor and make sure this guy has no claim to your home, move him back out again. If he changes his mind and wants to marry you he knows where you live, but the next time he comes back as an equal partner not expect you to be his mummy or nurse with a purse.

This! Weeks after the OP‘s post went up there is no change. Keeps coming back for more advice and then says „oh you are so right“ … but does nothing about her situation. I have met several women like OP and it’s so sad to think a lovely woman throws her life away whilst the man just sits pretty and pretends he isn’t using her.

SpryCat · 15/01/2025 09:34

I think he is stringing you along, he’s older than you and been there and got the t shirt. He knows you want to get married and then have children so he is going against your plan deliberately so you concentrate on changing his mind and before you know it ten years have passed and your still in the same position. You need to find someone in the same age bracket who has the same life plan as you not someone who has been burnt in the past and doesn’t really want to go through it again.

CurlewKate · 15/01/2025 18:33

Do you have any proof that all his ex partners cheated?

User37482 · 15/01/2025 18:35

Nothing, it was his idea. Op chuck this one back seriously, he’s wasting your time and you are doing too much for a bloody ingrate. Maybe thats why he has so many failed relationships under his belt. Women tend to hold on to decent men.

User37482 · 15/01/2025 18:36

CurlewKate · 15/01/2025 18:33

Do you have any proof that all his ex partners cheated?

Yeah I call bollocks

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