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Husband manhood pride, he rather sacrifice time with me over his manhood pride.

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stayathomewife · 25/08/2024 08:05

Sorry before I go on, I just want to say there might be cultural difference here, as I am Asian. My husband is not, but my husband is not Westerners neither.

Me [F40] Husband [M39] has a Master in Chemical Engineering, makes 185K a year take home after tax. He the type of man that take pride in be the provider, that just how he put his self-worth, on his career and be the provider. During his proposal to our marriage, he very clear said: "Why does he wants his wife to work when he makes enough for his wife to stay home."

Yes, I have to say this so you get the gist of how his mindset is and his manhood pride. We are married 12 years, together 14 years.

4 years ago his mom whom old (over 80 years old) had a hemorrhagic stroke that leave her quadriplegia paralyze. He is the only son (his father and his older sister both deceased),

Since his mom stroke happened for the past 4 years, he has been working 12 hours a day, 84 hours a week, just so he has enough money to pay for her PRIVATE Nursing Home where she can get one to one care with doctors and a team or nurses care for her full time around the clock, and pay for her medical care.

Private Nursing Home with a team or nurses care for an elderly whom quadriplegia paralyze all around the clock are not in any way cheap. Basically 85% of his working income go straight to his mom care.

He told me he loves me very much but he wants me to understand that he only has ONE mother, he cannot not care for her. I get it I do. BUT him working 84 hours a week since his mom stroke is him taking out quality time of us.

I have inheritance from my Chinese businessman father, both my parents already deceased, they lave half the money to me and half to my older brother. I do have a decent inheritance. I want to use it to help my husband at least help pay for some of her Private Nursing home, so he can work less hours, and more time with me.
And also for his health in the long run too, work 84 hours a week is not the answer.

He get defensive that it is not my job to care for his mom, he not want to burden me, it is HIS job as he is her biological son. And he never want a penny help from a woman's money. But I am his wife though. Basically his manhood pride.

I love my husband, but this is hard, he gone12 hours a day, so 84 hours a week he gone. And he also take his quadriplegia paralyze mother to Dialysis too 4x times a week, and each time Dialysis is 5 hours process, so 20 more hours a week total. So total of him gone 100 hours a week from me.

I don't know how to get him to swallow his manhood pride, and accept my inheritance money to help his mom, so he can work less hours.

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In all fairness to him, he still is a devoted husband like how he always been in the last 12 years as a husband, he still does laundry, he dotes me to the point he literally handwash my underwear (cultural thing).

He work in Petroleum-chemical process plant, his clothes smell like hazardous chemicals after, he shower after work, and he always want me to join him (it has nothing to do with sex as we never have shower sex).
In the shower he literally kneels down on his knee and cleans and rubs my feet and calves. And wash my hair, he even comb my hair after shower.
I guess because he 14 inches taller than me so he has to kneel down on his knee to rubs my feet and calves.

He did it again this morning, while he kneel on his knee rubs my calves he apologized to me that he has to take his mom to Dialysis later, and that he knows I want more time with him, but this is the remaining time has left with his mom in this world.

On the 4 days of his mom Dialysis he gone 17 hours (12 hours work + 5 hours of her Dialysis).
On the 3 days not have her Dialysis, he gone 12 hours work.

He still desire me to has sex with him, we still have sex regularly, right now it every other day, on the days he not take his mom to Dialysis.

I just hate it that he is an awesome husband, a great provider,
but because of his manhood pride, he not want my inheritance help and rather work 84 hours a week just so he can have enough money to pay for his mom Private Nursing Home.
It like my inheritance touch his manhood or something, his 'not want to use a penny of a woman's money'. But I am his wife.

I'm at my wits end, is there anything I can do about this? I have no ground to give him an ultimatum as he is a devoted husband to me, I just don't like it how he work 84 hours a week.

When I vent to a friend, my friend said what makes you think he will choose to spend more time with a HEALTHY wife, than his quadriplegia paralyze mother who is dying,
as the kidney specialist told him his mom only has 1-2 years left at most due to her end stage kidney failure, it will get to the stage where no amount of Dialysis can help her, and she will die.

Am I basically just have no options in this?

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Danfromdownunder · 25/08/2024 08:11

What do you want from him? Also I’m dying to know which culture requires handwashing your wife’s undies?

stayathomewife · 25/08/2024 08:12

Anyone can tell me what to do in my situation, I feel that I don't have an option on this, he just so fixated on his mindset, and his pride, ego and his manhood.

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Danfromdownunder · 25/08/2024 08:13

Get a job and help contribute so he doesn’t have to work so much?

stayathomewife · 25/08/2024 08:13

Danfromdownunder · 25/08/2024 08:11

What do you want from him? Also I’m dying to know which culture requires handwashing your wife’s undies?

There no culture, but in Asian family men does those stuff, he does it, he grow up watch his father handwash his mom clothes, they were poor, they were Political Asylum/Political Refugee.

And which culture, China, Vietnam, India, etc..

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DistressedDamson · 25/08/2024 08:13

“Manhood pride” 😁did anyone else think this was going to have a different focus

BlackBean2023 · 25/08/2024 08:14

I'm not sure the word manhood is being used in the right context here OP...

BruceAndNosh · 25/08/2024 08:14

What is his mother's mental state? How does she feel about him working himself into the ground for her benefit when he could allow his wife to reduce the financial burden?
Can you speak to her?

stayathomewife · 25/08/2024 08:15

Danfromdownunder · 25/08/2024 08:13

Get a job and help contribute so he doesn’t have to work so much?

I have my Shanghai businessman father inheritance. I don't live off off his money. I have a house in China too that leave to me, including my inheritance from my businessman father.
I don't need a penny of his money.

And I know you going to ask, help take his mom to Dialysis.

My husband won't let me help with his mom, his manhood pride, he said he not want to burden me, and he said it his job as her biological son.

And Dialysis only let ONE person with the patient, it is not a visiting center, he gets to be with is mom because he her biological son, and she quadriplegic paralyze.

And I am 4'11" tall, his mom is 5'9" and quadriplegic paralyze and bedridden, the 4'11" me cannot get her out of the bed to her wheelchair, then get her in the wheelchair van drive her to Dialysis.

My husband does all that because he 6'2" and he can get quadriplegic mother to the wheelchair and wheelchair van, unless he want his mom to fall and get hurt then let the 4'11" me do it, he not even trust me with his mom because I don't do things up to his STANDARDS.

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DistressedDamson · 25/08/2024 08:15

BlackBean2023 · 25/08/2024 08:14

I'm not sure the word manhood is being used in the right context here OP...

🤣I’m so bloody childish 😎

StormingNorman · 25/08/2024 08:17

Danfromdownunder · 25/08/2024 08:13

Get a job and help contribute so he doesn’t have to work so much?

You need to read the OP again.

FantasticFox27 · 25/08/2024 08:18

He doesn't want your money, so I think you have to accept this situation for now. Can you take his mum to dialysis while he is at work? You can help in ways that aren't monetary

StormingNorman · 25/08/2024 08:20

Can you get all the household jobs done in the 12 or 17 hours a day that when he comes home there’s no underwear to wash or other stuff to do around the house?

stayathomewife · 25/08/2024 08:22

BruceAndNosh · 25/08/2024 08:14

What is his mother's mental state? How does she feel about him working himself into the ground for her benefit when he could allow his wife to reduce the financial burden?
Can you speak to her?

My MIL actually very alert mental state, it just she only has 2 years left so she wants ALL her time with her son. Which my husband comply because he sees it as he only has 2 years left with her.

She seem fine with him work like that, she can be selfish too, every month is she remind him to pay the Private Nursing Home, don't forget or else she has no care.
Which he patiently tell his mom that he has set it to Auto Pay and each month the money transfer from his Checking account go straight to the Private Nursing home to pay for his mom.

It expensive too $12,000 USD a month. So total of $150,000 a year This is why he work so hard, as his income is $185,000 a year take home after tax.

I don't care about money, as I have my father inheritance money. I just worry his health in the long run.

It more than just work 12 hours a day, and take her to Dialysis 5 hours a day.

She also in our home 2 days a month, and it the 2 days where he has off. And it him that care for her 24/7 in that two days. So he also sacrifice 2 days with me too.

You know how elderly 80+ years old are, she just like a kid want him to sit next to her and talk to her, him him all the times. He just can't get rest, due to she quadriplegic paralyze, he spoon feed her each spoon while talking to her to get her to eat.

He the one that change her poop and pee diapers 6-7 times a day too, as he not want her to be in soil diapers for long, so everytime she goes is he change for her.

She quadriplegia she can't move all four limbs. Earlier she sneeze and has runny nose and it him that has to get tissues to blow her nose as she cannot move her hands or arms.
She wants water throughout the day is he has to get a cup of water with straw put the straw right next to her mouth so she can drink. Spoon feed her each meals.

Every hour he rubs her hands arms and legs and feet, he said he want her to get blood circulations because she paralyze. And every hour he turn her too as he not want her to have bedsore. And I'm not talking about change her poop and pee diapers.
If she itch, he has to scratch for her, her arms and legs paralyze.

I share this with you so you see how he is.

It like he has to constantly be by his mom side. But one thing though, his mom is VERY happy to see him and very happy that he with her care for her.

I gave up, I am not going to win this battle am I?

I just have to wait out till his mom time comes right?

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Karentoo · 25/08/2024 08:23

I'm not really sure you can do anything to change this mindset. Maybe emphasise to him how worried you are about him making himself ill with this work regime and how much it would affect you if you were to lose him. It seems crazy to be running himself ragged, when you have the funds to avoid this.

Although maybe you might want to substitute the word male for manhood in your posts 😉

stayathomewife · 25/08/2024 08:24

I answer the question about me need to work, and the question about help his mom to Dialysis already. Please read it. I do not want to write it again, it will just take up space.

And sorry, you do not understand my husband mindset, he does not let me do laundry, he say that his job. My job is cook for him, clean around the house, and help him fold laundry.

I do not want to go into this issue, I ask about his manhood pride not want to accept my inheritance to help out with his mom.

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Alectrona · 25/08/2024 08:27

OP, manhood means penis.

stayathomewife · 25/08/2024 08:27

again, I have my Shanghai business man father inheritance when my parents died. My businessman father makes MORE money than my Engineer husband can ever make in his life.

I am NOT living off his money, I have my parents inheritance. I don't even need a penny of his money when divorce. I do not want to divorce him so this is irrelevant.

Sorry, I don't live off his money, he makes 185K a year after tax, and 150K of that go straight to his mom Private Nursing Home and medical care. He only has 35K left anyways.

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stayathomewife · 25/08/2024 08:27

Alectrona · 25/08/2024 08:27

OP, manhood means penis.

I'm sorrry, I thought manhood means his pride his ego manhood, Sorry I am Chinese and English is my third language.

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stayathomewife · 25/08/2024 08:30

Karentoo · 25/08/2024 08:23

I'm not really sure you can do anything to change this mindset. Maybe emphasise to him how worried you are about him making himself ill with this work regime and how much it would affect you if you were to lose him. It seems crazy to be running himself ragged, when you have the funds to avoid this.

Although maybe you might want to substitute the word male for manhood in your posts 😉

I couldn't edit the title of my post, I am sorry, English is my third language.

I am trying to get through him, it just his pride is so high, I just can't get through him, I'm at my wits end on this.

I am NOT living off his money, I have my parents inheritance, and my father was a businessman. My businessman father makes more than the Engineer him.

I don't live off his money, he makes 185K a year after tax, and 150K of that go straight to his mom Private Nursing Home and medical care. He only has 35K left anyways.

He only has 35K a year left after 150K go straight to his mom care, so sorry, I don't live off his money.

I just wish he let me help him with my inheritance money.

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AltitudeCheck · 25/08/2024 08:31

Acknowledge this is very important to him and must be very stressful. Remind him you are in a partnership and ask him what you can do to relieve some of his burden to give him some down time to relax (maybe do your own washing?).

Appreciate the time he does spend with you, and the ways he shows you that he cares (like the shower time). Recognise this will only be for a short time compared to the rest of your lives together. What do you want to do with your time together? Do you just want more company (it must be isolating being at home alone a lot) maybe work developing your own friends or get a pet, do you want to do something specific, maybe plan a monthly date to do it.

Sethera · 25/08/2024 08:31

stayathomewife · 25/08/2024 08:27

I'm sorrry, I thought manhood means his pride his ego manhood, Sorry I am Chinese and English is my third language.

It does - the alternative meaning of 'penis' is a euphemism. Your usage was correct.

olympicsrock · 25/08/2024 08:31

Dear OP
I am so sorry that you are experiencing this.
Firstly people generally use manhood to mean ‘penis’. Better to say male pride!

What country are you in? I would be very surprised if in the UK dialysis was offered to an 80 year old quadriplegic person as just not in their best interests.

I suspect you are in a country where money rules. If dialysis is paid for as is round the clock care there is no incentive to suggest stopping this care and simply concentrating on comfort and dignity.

Do you have a family friend or doctor that could talk to your husband about the importance of prioritizing quality of life over quality as he clearly lives his mother and wants the best for her?

Can MIL express her wishes? Does she want to continue living in this way at risk of pressure sores and totally dependant on care ? I’m aware that people have different views on this…

Saschka · 25/08/2024 08:34

I think you are right OP - you can offer, and you have, but you can’t make him take you up on your offer. He wants to do this, you’ll just have to sit it out.

At 80 following a major stroke, 2 years survival on dialysis is optimistic IMO.

stayathomewife · 25/08/2024 08:37

olympicsrock · 25/08/2024 08:31

Dear OP
I am so sorry that you are experiencing this.
Firstly people generally use manhood to mean ‘penis’. Better to say male pride!

What country are you in? I would be very surprised if in the UK dialysis was offered to an 80 year old quadriplegic person as just not in their best interests.

I suspect you are in a country where money rules. If dialysis is paid for as is round the clock care there is no incentive to suggest stopping this care and simply concentrating on comfort and dignity.

Do you have a family friend or doctor that could talk to your husband about the importance of prioritizing quality of life over quality as he clearly lives his mother and wants the best for her?

Can MIL express her wishes? Does she want to continue living in this way at risk of pressure sores and totally dependant on care ? I’m aware that people have different views on this…

I am in USA, and forums in USA are dying due to all those Facebook Instagram Twitter social media stuff, and too much young immature kids. And I'm old, I'm 40. So I asked here as I was pregnant before, gave birth, was a mother before.

My MIL Health insurance which cover her Dialysis and Hospital stay, and see specialists, medicines and treatments.
BUT
Her Health insurance does NOT cover LONG TERM ongoing care for many years span like PRIVATE Nursing Home.

When you have your own private room, and one to one care with doctors and nurses, and a team of nurses full time around the clock care for your mom 24/7, that is "Private" Nursing home, which is all on you.

There no Health insurance that will fork out 150K a year to cover Private Nursing home for you, if you want that much around the clock care for your mom, you pay for it.

There are Assistance living facilities for elderly, but my husband does NOT want her there, he wants a team of nurses care for her around the clock as she 1) she quadriplegic paralyze since her stroke, and 2) she had kidney failure that required Dialysis 4x times a week.

It not about the money at all, it about he needs to balance out, him, his long hours work, his health, him as a filial son to her, but also a husband to me.

I'm just stress all over. And it not even about money, I am not with him for money, I have my father inheritance, and my businessman father when alive makes more money than the Engineer him can ever make.

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