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I've ruined my life by having a family

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Thirtylifecrisis · 02/08/2024 22:50

Just as the title says really.

I have 2 DC and a dp. Love my DC sooo frigging much.

Before settling down I had my own small house (2 up, 2 down) and a professional job.
I dated like a hobby and waltzed around seeing friends, going on lots of holidays and daydreaming.
If a relationship went south I had no issues in ending them, deleting them and moving on. As I was on my own all through my twenties I had friends of all ages for adventures. A close friend in her sixties to go to Rome with. Other women in their twenties to go bar hoping with. Colleagues in their forties to go wine tasting with
Life was full of options and opportunities. If things didn't work out I could always book a holiday, change jobs, migrate abroad, join the circus or whatever. So much freedom.

I spent a decade living like this.
I always wanted a family. I wanted to meet a steady and stable man who was financially solvent with no children so we could marry, combine assets and have children with.

I met DP during my dating sprees. He sold me a dream that wasn't quite reality. He was steady and stable but not financially solvent. He hid debt from me and I didn't know until he moved in. Sex life was and is horrendous! Erectile dysfunction.
He then lost his job and I was about to kick him out but lockdown struck. Fucking lockdown. Sent me a bit crazy tbh. My dad died during lockdown. I nurses him for 4 weeks whilst he died from pancreatic cancer slowly Infront of me. Trauma.

DP was excellent during this time. Really a rock. Suddenly the finances didn't matter.
We were in this bubble together. Living together with no one else. It was like life would always remain like this in lockdown. With the absence of real life and just me and him, all flaws in the real world became irrelevant to our temporary lives. His debts didn't impact. We weren't exactly going anywhere. He got a new job and paid his share of bills. The fact we had nothing in common didn't matter either. For that time we had everything in common. All we had was eachother and netflix.

I then became pregnant. A baby to add to our bubble.
Then lockdown properly ended and the real world resumed. But it was different. We emerged from lockdown with me heavily pregnant and with a man I actually had little in common with and would never have chosen as a life partner.

Then everything happened so quickly. I bought us a bigger house for our new family. We had our baby.
DP got an IVA for his debts. We got a dog. I came off maternity leave and got pregnant again (whilst DP tried out Viagra). We were then juggling decorating a new house with 2 babies and a dog.

I am not the passenger in my own life but my god. It's like I just woke up one day with a partner, 2 kids and a dog. It feels like this happened in a blink of an eye, before I could even think through wtf I was doing. I feel like I've been asleep for the past 5 years and living on auto pilot.

DP has been a fantastic father. He really has. He is in his own words 'living the dream'. This is all he's ever wanted. He's 50/50 in child rearing and the mental load. He probably does more housework than me if I'm honest. He does the weekly food shop with the toddler in tow every week. He spends his weekends taking the toddler swimming, mowing the lawn, running errands and cooking family roast dinners. He brings me a coffee in bed Saturday mornings whilst I have a lie in with the baby and then heads off with the toddler for the morning of swimming, shopping errands. He'll then come back for us to do something as a family. He'll have the kids whilst I go out with friends no questions asked.

But we have nothing in common. Literally nothing. We don't laugh. We don't cuddle. We don't have sex. We have different sense of humour. There is little there.
Our commonality is shared family values but that's as far as it goes.

We did couples counselling when I was pregnancy with number 2 as I was unhappy with our relationship. It didn't do anything. There is no spark.

Now I feel trapped and I'm suffocating. We have two little ones. The baby is 6 months old. They are as attached to their dad as they are to me.

I adore them. I really do. But this is not the life I had envisaged for when I have a family. I spent my twenties having fun and really building a solid foundation to NOT be in this position when I eventually settled.

I am living a life I did not want or plan. Anything I do now is not the life I've wanted. It's the opposite.

I did not want to be a single parent but I knew life could happen. That's why I wanted a man also financially solvent. So if this shit hits the fan no one is dependent on the other and the kids would be provided for. If I end it with DP he's homeless. Nowhere to go. He has an IVA and countless other shit.
I then face a life of financial hardship as I'd have to pay for the house and kids and DP maintenance would be minimal due to his financial issues. So I'd have 18 years of juggling the books and raising 2 kids.

If I stay then I have decades of shit sex with someone I have literally nothing in common with.

If it weren't for lockdown this relationship would have ended. He'd have been a brief relationship from the past id barely remembered. I'd have continued to waltz around in my mini cooper visiting friends, holidaying in the sunny destinations and having hot dates with various men.

Now I'm looking at a lifetime of single parenthood or settling for an unsatisfactory relationship.

I can't waltz off this time. I have two tiny people who depend on me to make the right choices for them. But what is it?

This was very long winded but so cathartic to write. So thank you for anyone who's read this.

OP posts:
IamMoodyBlue · 10/08/2024 21:35

Sounds as if you may be experiencing a form of depression.( I'm not a doctor, I have had clinical depression). And still grieving for the awful bereavement during lockdown and in a different way, grieving for the lifestyle you loved and lost.
It's very clichéd advice, but, just for now, try to take each day as it comes. Your partner sounds like a good man, a good friend, rather than what you feel you need, the great love of your life.
But right now, you need stability and time to settle, to put distance between your old life, that has gone, and your new circumstances. It seems to still be too raw to make big, life changing decisions.
Best wishes for your future, whatever you decide.

MsCactus · 10/08/2024 21:53

OP, why not stay, but ask your DP to give you some regular nights out with your girlfriends?

I think you're craving some of your old life, rather than hating DP, and actually one benefit of having such a supportive DP is that he can watch the babies while you go get a bit of the old you back!

Pupinskipops · 10/08/2024 23:12

Swap?

Ilovemyfreedom · 10/08/2024 23:39

One way to sort the shit sex is to have a conversation, maybe think about opening the relationship, possibly swinging, as a way to satisfy you.
He sounds like a really good person and father. You're missing the spark. But if you introduced a different way to add spark, that might make you feel alive again. Imo, it's only cheating if there is lies and deception. If dh knows and agrees then there's no harm.

Rcgc · 10/08/2024 23:56

Let you partner be himself, let him be the guy he was when you met him. He wasn’t amazing but he was ticking the boxes. Now he’s a guy in love with a great woman, who he knows doesn’t love him, with two children to look after who he adores. He knows he’s not performing in the bedroom and knows you would be long gone if it wasn’t for those children. Sounds like he’s just doing everything he can to make you happy to keep the life he has together. Waiting on the day you finally leave him. Unappreciated and a failure the opposite of the man you met riding high on credit living a lifestyle he couldn’t afford but full of confidence. Cut him some slack, stop overthinking everything, teach him how to please you in the bedroom. Show him your appreciation, you say you’re not in love with him but it sounds a lot like you care about him, care about his future. Build him up and give him wings, he may just start ticking more of those boxes.

Thirtylifecrisis · 11/08/2024 00:17
Good Night Art GIF by Jess

Thanks for the further responses.

I think I have to clear a few things up as I think there's been some crossed wires here for some posters.

I love and adore my children. There's never been a question of that. That's never been an issue. They are the joy in heart. Yes the drudgery that comes along with having kids sucks but not them. You can't have babies without the drudgery so that's something I've always accepted and never questioned.

My DP, although he's the bees knees for fatherhood he isn't the primary carer. No idea where that idea has come from for posters. I am not the primary carer either. We are 50/50.

I know it's a wild concept for many as they haven't experienced or seen it themselves but it isn't one parent loves and cares for the kids whilst the other does the bare minimum or is disinterested.

So DP takes the toddler swimming and food shopping, whilst I take the baby to a baby group and walk the dog.
Or DP will bath both baby and toddler whilst I cook dinner, dishes and put laundry on. Then I'll do bedtime routine whilst DP folds the families laundry and puts it all away. It's entirely 50/50. I'm as good a mother as he is a father.

He's not some poor man left alone with a baby and toddler day and night whilst I'm out on the town without a backwards glance. In fact I'm on maternity leave so with them both on my own alllll day everydayyyyy right now.

A few posters have said about me handing over my children, giving him my house and only seeing them at weekends. I mean wtf?! Why on earth would I do that?! Because I'm unhappy with my relationship I need to lose custody of my children?! Because he's a good dad? Wild.

I do think it's crazy how so many women fawn over him doing exactly what I do! I get 0 fawning or praise when I do the exact same thing.
He took them both to the park today on his own and then to the shopping centre to get toddlers feet measured. You'd have thought he'd done mount Everest the way my neighbour went on and on. Yet I take them out on my own together every single day mon-fri. Where's my prize?

He happily goes out and about wearing the baby in the baby carrier and pushing the toddler in the pram. So instantly he deserves gold. I do the same thing and I deserve... To lose custody of them both with weekend access only because Im not happy with DP? Make it makes sense please?

Seriously, can one of you please break this down and explain your reasoning for this?

My issue isn't and hasn't ever been my babies. I've always wanted children. They are much wanted and loved.

My issue is the partnership which I have chosen.
The lack of compatibility. We are very different people in all ways other than family values. That's what our entire house of cards is built up. But I don't know if thats enough. That's my issue.

But like I posted up thread I'm not leaving. I am swallowing my discontent for the sake of the babies.
Leaving will not be beneficial to any of us.

Me and DP have spoken again since I posted. I'll post another update with the outcome of that chat another time. I'm too tired now.

OP posts:
Thirtylifecrisis · 11/08/2024 00:17

No idea why I posted a GIF. But it's fitting so I'll accept it 🤣

OP posts:
EuropeanMongrel · 11/08/2024 00:28

I read your comments OP and I don't sense any understanding of what a relationship or a partnership is about.
It is almost as if you are desperate for attention and asking "why am I not getting any attention and approval for being a mother?".

You know those great, successful and attractive guys (you don't seem to think your partner is one of these)? The really great ones have a partner who supports them and who has their back. That's what it takes to be successful. You are allowed to not be attracted but I sense that you just don't know how to support someone and to put aside your obsession with yourself.

TruthorDie · 11/08/2024 00:37

@Thirtylifecrisis l get where you are coming from. You are allowed to express dissatisfaction with the relationship. Problem is the bar is set so low for men then 50/50 is seen as the second coming. I did maternity leave and it’s no picnic. Not sure why everyone is so keen for you to suck up the ED and the debt 🤷‍♀️ Or the incompatibility

Pipe1 · 11/08/2024 03:47

Yes ! I know the feeling , choice join the the club single mum or treat it as arranged marriage ! Don’t take advice from single mums accept your life now and stay with it , or 18+ years of conflict

Happypositivemum · 11/08/2024 04:36

Totally understand what you are saying. Please leave him. He and you deserve to be happy. He sounds like he will make an amazing co parent. You will remain friends and bring up your children wonderfully. You can't make this work. Help him find somewhere to rent and be kind towards each other. Tell him how amazing he is but you need to be on your own. It's not working. It's no one's fault. You just aren't compatible. The kids are way too young to understand. They will see you both 50/50 so not much will change. Be happy xx

MJDune · 11/08/2024 04:48

So, my husband had issues in the bedroom. He couldn't keep it up long or he shot off fast. He started taking this stuff called Korean red ginseng. His stamina got steadily better. Now the sex is so much better. Hope this information helps.

Foreveronthemove · 11/08/2024 06:08

It’s so easy to romanticise the past when you have v small children and they are utterly exhausting you. I remember doing it all the time myself when my kids were babies and wondering how this had become my life, despite desperately wanting husband and children. I feel for you but like others have said, please give it time. Your partner sounds like a reasonable person and these are things you can work through.

Iflytoomuch · 11/08/2024 07:19

Thirtylifecrisis · 11/08/2024 00:17

Thanks for the further responses.

I think I have to clear a few things up as I think there's been some crossed wires here for some posters.

I love and adore my children. There's never been a question of that. That's never been an issue. They are the joy in heart. Yes the drudgery that comes along with having kids sucks but not them. You can't have babies without the drudgery so that's something I've always accepted and never questioned.

My DP, although he's the bees knees for fatherhood he isn't the primary carer. No idea where that idea has come from for posters. I am not the primary carer either. We are 50/50.

I know it's a wild concept for many as they haven't experienced or seen it themselves but it isn't one parent loves and cares for the kids whilst the other does the bare minimum or is disinterested.

So DP takes the toddler swimming and food shopping, whilst I take the baby to a baby group and walk the dog.
Or DP will bath both baby and toddler whilst I cook dinner, dishes and put laundry on. Then I'll do bedtime routine whilst DP folds the families laundry and puts it all away. It's entirely 50/50. I'm as good a mother as he is a father.

He's not some poor man left alone with a baby and toddler day and night whilst I'm out on the town without a backwards glance. In fact I'm on maternity leave so with them both on my own alllll day everydayyyyy right now.

A few posters have said about me handing over my children, giving him my house and only seeing them at weekends. I mean wtf?! Why on earth would I do that?! Because I'm unhappy with my relationship I need to lose custody of my children?! Because he's a good dad? Wild.

I do think it's crazy how so many women fawn over him doing exactly what I do! I get 0 fawning or praise when I do the exact same thing.
He took them both to the park today on his own and then to the shopping centre to get toddlers feet measured. You'd have thought he'd done mount Everest the way my neighbour went on and on. Yet I take them out on my own together every single day mon-fri. Where's my prize?

He happily goes out and about wearing the baby in the baby carrier and pushing the toddler in the pram. So instantly he deserves gold. I do the same thing and I deserve... To lose custody of them both with weekend access only because Im not happy with DP? Make it makes sense please?

Seriously, can one of you please break this down and explain your reasoning for this?

My issue isn't and hasn't ever been my babies. I've always wanted children. They are much wanted and loved.

My issue is the partnership which I have chosen.
The lack of compatibility. We are very different people in all ways other than family values. That's what our entire house of cards is built up. But I don't know if thats enough. That's my issue.

But like I posted up thread I'm not leaving. I am swallowing my discontent for the sake of the babies.
Leaving will not be beneficial to any of us.

Me and DP have spoken again since I posted. I'll post another update with the outcome of that chat another time. I'm too tired now.

It's a socitle thing. If dad's do stuff with their kids, particularly mundane stuff, it's seen as cute. Mum's are expected to do it. Trust me, if he decided to leave you he'd be the devil reincarnated, even if he still did "stuff" with the kids.

You're not compatible with him, you have 2 choices. Stay, put a brave face on for the world but deep down you'll both be unhappy and when the kids get older you have nothing at all in common. Or agree to separate and put the kids FIRST. With proper co parenting there should be no reason your kids won't thrive.

True co parenting requires more effort than if you were still in a relationship and there will be compromises along the way. If you can truly do this your kids will be healthy and happy.

Unless I've misunderstood you were unhappy before the kids came along? This is what I've based my post on.

Hiitsmegirl · 11/08/2024 07:38

Thirtylifecrisis · 02/08/2024 22:50

Just as the title says really.

I have 2 DC and a dp. Love my DC sooo frigging much.

Before settling down I had my own small house (2 up, 2 down) and a professional job.
I dated like a hobby and waltzed around seeing friends, going on lots of holidays and daydreaming.
If a relationship went south I had no issues in ending them, deleting them and moving on. As I was on my own all through my twenties I had friends of all ages for adventures. A close friend in her sixties to go to Rome with. Other women in their twenties to go bar hoping with. Colleagues in their forties to go wine tasting with
Life was full of options and opportunities. If things didn't work out I could always book a holiday, change jobs, migrate abroad, join the circus or whatever. So much freedom.

I spent a decade living like this.
I always wanted a family. I wanted to meet a steady and stable man who was financially solvent with no children so we could marry, combine assets and have children with.

I met DP during my dating sprees. He sold me a dream that wasn't quite reality. He was steady and stable but not financially solvent. He hid debt from me and I didn't know until he moved in. Sex life was and is horrendous! Erectile dysfunction.
He then lost his job and I was about to kick him out but lockdown struck. Fucking lockdown. Sent me a bit crazy tbh. My dad died during lockdown. I nurses him for 4 weeks whilst he died from pancreatic cancer slowly Infront of me. Trauma.

DP was excellent during this time. Really a rock. Suddenly the finances didn't matter.
We were in this bubble together. Living together with no one else. It was like life would always remain like this in lockdown. With the absence of real life and just me and him, all flaws in the real world became irrelevant to our temporary lives. His debts didn't impact. We weren't exactly going anywhere. He got a new job and paid his share of bills. The fact we had nothing in common didn't matter either. For that time we had everything in common. All we had was eachother and netflix.

I then became pregnant. A baby to add to our bubble.
Then lockdown properly ended and the real world resumed. But it was different. We emerged from lockdown with me heavily pregnant and with a man I actually had little in common with and would never have chosen as a life partner.

Then everything happened so quickly. I bought us a bigger house for our new family. We had our baby.
DP got an IVA for his debts. We got a dog. I came off maternity leave and got pregnant again (whilst DP tried out Viagra). We were then juggling decorating a new house with 2 babies and a dog.

I am not the passenger in my own life but my god. It's like I just woke up one day with a partner, 2 kids and a dog. It feels like this happened in a blink of an eye, before I could even think through wtf I was doing. I feel like I've been asleep for the past 5 years and living on auto pilot.

DP has been a fantastic father. He really has. He is in his own words 'living the dream'. This is all he's ever wanted. He's 50/50 in child rearing and the mental load. He probably does more housework than me if I'm honest. He does the weekly food shop with the toddler in tow every week. He spends his weekends taking the toddler swimming, mowing the lawn, running errands and cooking family roast dinners. He brings me a coffee in bed Saturday mornings whilst I have a lie in with the baby and then heads off with the toddler for the morning of swimming, shopping errands. He'll then come back for us to do something as a family. He'll have the kids whilst I go out with friends no questions asked.

But we have nothing in common. Literally nothing. We don't laugh. We don't cuddle. We don't have sex. We have different sense of humour. There is little there.
Our commonality is shared family values but that's as far as it goes.

We did couples counselling when I was pregnancy with number 2 as I was unhappy with our relationship. It didn't do anything. There is no spark.

Now I feel trapped and I'm suffocating. We have two little ones. The baby is 6 months old. They are as attached to their dad as they are to me.

I adore them. I really do. But this is not the life I had envisaged for when I have a family. I spent my twenties having fun and really building a solid foundation to NOT be in this position when I eventually settled.

I am living a life I did not want or plan. Anything I do now is not the life I've wanted. It's the opposite.

I did not want to be a single parent but I knew life could happen. That's why I wanted a man also financially solvent. So if this shit hits the fan no one is dependent on the other and the kids would be provided for. If I end it with DP he's homeless. Nowhere to go. He has an IVA and countless other shit.
I then face a life of financial hardship as I'd have to pay for the house and kids and DP maintenance would be minimal due to his financial issues. So I'd have 18 years of juggling the books and raising 2 kids.

If I stay then I have decades of shit sex with someone I have literally nothing in common with.

If it weren't for lockdown this relationship would have ended. He'd have been a brief relationship from the past id barely remembered. I'd have continued to waltz around in my mini cooper visiting friends, holidaying in the sunny destinations and having hot dates with various men.

Now I'm looking at a lifetime of single parenthood or settling for an unsatisfactory relationship.

I can't waltz off this time. I have two tiny people who depend on me to make the right choices for them. But what is it?

This was very long winded but so cathartic to write. So thank you for anyone who's read this.

If a man were writing this we would be tearing him to shreds.

I think you should tell him what you think and what you want. Perhaps see other people and live together to coparent. Your tiny people will get bigger and it will be easier to see a way forward. Maybe you can find things in common? Hire a babysitter and go out and do things that you both enjoy. And have sex in other ways in the meantime. Do his hands and mouth not work?

BabyBlue777 · 11/08/2024 07:46

Welcome to real life. Real life is not perfect.
You made choices, those choices are now your life.
Being a good couple is not just about great sex, it is about having the same values. IT is about being there for each other.

Your fella can get some BodyTalk healing for his penis issues. I help people recover from sexual dysfunction. He may be lacking in his male energy, some trauma blocking his flow (creativity, abundance, sexuality). His lack of sexual power is also going to affect his ability to manifest abundance for you all, which is why he puts himself in the female role of helping out a lot.

He and you obviously need healing, not therapy. Therapy doesn´t work very well, you talk and talk but nothing changes, but BodyTalk healing really works, and very quickly.

PeachGuide · 11/08/2024 07:55

So much of this sounds familiar! Although I’m probably a decade on from where you are and still with DH after many ups and downs…

Like you, I loved the freedom of my twenties! And I also felt a little bit invincible, because if something wasn’t working I could just change it, right? I feel lucky to have had that time - many people don’t - but it wasn’t exactly real life.

Once you’ve had that freedom, the feeling of being trapped is hard to deal with. And nothing will trap you like 2 small kids!

Like others have said, now probably isn’t the time to make big decisions. Not sure when the ‘right time’ is, but you’re definitely in the thick of it and I think life would be hard if you split now.

Only you will know whether staying together long-term is the right option. If you make it through the next couple of years, you may find that you start to build a life together that you’re proud of. In any event, your children will be your main focus whether you’re together or apart - but together might just be a little bit easier…

Although harder than in our twenties, change is always possible. There’s no point going through life miserable, so see where you’re at once you’re through the baby stage. But just wanted to let you know that you’re not alone in feeling this way.

Readytoevolve · 11/08/2024 08:19

BabyBlue777 · 11/08/2024 07:46

Welcome to real life. Real life is not perfect.
You made choices, those choices are now your life.
Being a good couple is not just about great sex, it is about having the same values. IT is about being there for each other.

Your fella can get some BodyTalk healing for his penis issues. I help people recover from sexual dysfunction. He may be lacking in his male energy, some trauma blocking his flow (creativity, abundance, sexuality). His lack of sexual power is also going to affect his ability to manifest abundance for you all, which is why he puts himself in the female role of helping out a lot.

He and you obviously need healing, not therapy. Therapy doesn´t work very well, you talk and talk but nothing changes, but BodyTalk healing really works, and very quickly.

Edited

Interesting, something like reiki or what do you suggest?

notanotherusername21 · 11/08/2024 09:16

To be really pragmatic, it doesn't sound the moment to split. You're in the thick of very young children, recently bereaved and you're probably both knackered. Even if you do part ways later, you don't need to now. 2026 isn't so far away if that's when he would have his own place. But in a way that's not really your problem (of course I understand it impacts your kids).

Maybe you could start to explore your options so you feel freer again - knowing you've got options can help with that - but don't put pressure on yourself to get a magic fix right away. I think another poster's idea of reconnecting with your old life and your friends is a good idea - you seem to be missing that and could get a bit of that back into your life now. It's hard for one man to replace everything you had even if he's great and in a way it's mad that society tells us to expect that. Sending best wishes

Sorostas · 11/08/2024 09:26

I can relate to some of this.

I too was an independent woman, good job, had my own place, spent my spare time free doing as I wanted had a range of different friends for different situations, I was loving life. Just as I turned 30 I began then to look for a life partner, after a couple of years we moved in together but as they worked away with work, we were not living in each others pockets and still had a lot of independence. Then with a conversation on timing for children instigated by my husband, as whilst I wanted them I wasn’t focused on when at that point. He was ready and that was I suppose the tipping point of my life direction a little like a passenger to use your words.

We had the chat of the fact my current job didn’t lend itself to being child friendly and being a planner I couldn’t foresee it working going back to work. With him working away, I needed to see how I was going to make it work , first Big mistake! So I changed my job, to make it work , took a side step despite being ready career wise for promotion, so I saw people overtake me in that year or pregnancy , because I was preparing for a family, it didn’t feel great but I knew it was required. Our daughter came along and I brought my daughter up a little bit like a single parent, due to my Husbands work and me being on Mat leave so I didn’t mind. But I had no life outside of the family, we didn’t Jane family locally and we had moved to a new area to have children so friends network was only establishing so I didn’t do anything for myself for 18 months. I didn’t really think too much about it during first child, it was all new and I was focused on getting to grips with motherhood.

when I went back to work I basically gave myself a 3yr set back in my career the frustration set in, things were harder due to going back part time, but I made the choice family first career to work round it so working part time was necessary. But my husband was selfish I saw sides of him not so evident pre children , he did his hobbies and I had no time for mine.

when we had our second child it was after Covid he had a different approach to work, being around working from home. So could get involved more. Just before going on Mat leave a second time , I got my deserved promotion , showing I could do a full time job in part time hours, but I got the job during covid so working from home was easy to manage the pressures around child care pick ups etc. going back to work after my second having a more pressured job and now two kids my husband needed to be more involved and his work now meant he wasn’t working away as much at all.

The second child was the straw that broke up the bubble, the more flexibility in his work schedule didn’t translate in supporting my career in helping managing two kids and our lives, no he took up a new hobbie meaning he was training 6 times a week. He was less present. We got a nanny so for him that was justification to just not help and anytime I needed help co-ordinate a drop off with them at different places he would just say get the nanny to do it. But it wasn’t practical or cost effective, when he was around to do it, if not just sorting himself out in the morning around his hobbies.

my career in his eyes became the tension, I was always there to support the family and his work but when my career picked back up again he wasn’t there to share the load despite, his work no longer creating the barrier , or I could understand it.

my career is part of my identity and independence and whilst I have happily made sacrifices for my family for balance , he expects me to just bend to make his life easy and enable him to do what he wants but I get no time for myself, and I still do most things myself. After many fights and arguments, he does not help more but it’s been an unnecessary struggle which puts me now as being checked out of the relationship in some respects. I am expected to not be fulfilled and it has made me resent motherhood after the second. A feeling I have been robbed of the things that make me happy , a sense of losing my identity and self and I am on a path I didn’t sign up for, or felt was destined when I met my husband , I was a strong independent person , but pragmatic and I feel my pragmatism has been exploited and I have ended up with a selfish self centred husband and my family feeling like a tension, I either continue the fight to have both with 0 support so it’s exhausting. Or I concede and give up on my career to be less stressed and lose a part of myself that makes me fulfilled.

I have spoken to my husband about calling his bluff and taking a career break, but when it comes down to it, he doesn’t want that either , so I am now in a situation he creates drama when my job causes a tension but he doesn’t want to do anything about it, it did pave the way for him to help more, but now that just transpires to him now seeing me as lazy or he feels resentful for helping. So I personally have had enough. But I got two young kids who dote on their dad, and I just feel trapped in a life circumstance I didn’t choose and can’t see how I ended up here, and feel depressed about it now.

essentially it’s an identity crisis in both our circumstances, because as with life it doesn’t come with a road map and real life doesn’t work out like we planned, as is life, events shape how we end up where we are and we make our choices and decisions based on how situations present itself. At the moment I know that leaving the relationship isn’t the right decision right now, so I focus on my mental health , focus on making memories with my family, still advocating for fairness in the relationship, but also being mindful of my need to think about a what if scenario in divorce , as our mental health and fulfilment is importance for us being a great parent too.

so my advice would be don’t think of the big wide picture right now, as the big wide picture will evolve , but it’s ok to think about what life might look like separate, to help with planning , to help you make a decision of next steps. But in the short term, work on your mental health , work on doing things to take care of you, because I know part of the issues in my relationship is we can’t be part of a loving relationship if we don’t love and feel confident and be happy ourselves and our happiness cannot be dependant on others they can’t do that us for us. Having a 6 month old is the hardest time with two children it really is a challenge. So do focus on healing yourself and taking time out for you. Only then can you come into being present on what this means for your relationship and family.

good luck. It isn’t easy, I see progress in my relationship , so that is being worked on and marriage isn’t easy , you just need to keep communication open , and advocate for your needs. I wouldn’t make rash decisions , but I would plan for different situations , which is what I am doing , so I feel I am in control and it really helps with those feelings of being trapped and I have realised that feeling going , makes me more rationale on what I want , and sometimes it is our fears we are trying to escape and blame the situation for it, rather than is the split what you want.

just give yourself time and grace, plan for different outcomes so you are in control and as we have children timing has to be more planned if you do move apart , but it’s done right, or you may just resolve the issues in the process. Good luck x x

missbombastic · 11/08/2024 09:34

EuropeanMongrel · 11/08/2024 00:28

I read your comments OP and I don't sense any understanding of what a relationship or a partnership is about.
It is almost as if you are desperate for attention and asking "why am I not getting any attention and approval for being a mother?".

You know those great, successful and attractive guys (you don't seem to think your partner is one of these)? The really great ones have a partner who supports them and who has their back. That's what it takes to be successful. You are allowed to not be attracted but I sense that you just don't know how to support someone and to put aside your obsession with yourself.

That. OP has a lot of growing up to do. A discontented individual. Everything's not perfect so the rattle goes out the pram. We are all financial idiots when we are young. I would not judge anyone for that.

Comtesse · 11/08/2024 09:37

Make sure you have proper contraception right away. A third child would be a dreadful idea.

TipsyMentor · 11/08/2024 09:59

I had my first son at 20, to aan I'd only been dating for 6 months. Completely unplanned but I'm the kind of person that just gets on with things. We got married a couple of years later as I thought it was what my dad wanted (as far as I was concerned I was a failure in his eyes as he always talked about how well my older cousin was doing). We had a second son when I was 25, husband only ever wanted one so I had to secretly come off the pill. I was so deeply miserable, we had no spare money,for me to go out, he went out regardless of our money situation. He didn't take the kids swimming or too the park. I stuck it for 20 years thinking I had to because I had nowhere to go or savings of my own (we had a joint account). Turns out if I'd turned up at my parents years earlier they'd have helped me, wish they'd been better communicators!! My advice is don't stay with him just because of the kids or the fact he has nowhere to go. Sit and talk to him, as painful for him as it will be you need to tell him. Or write it in a letter and go out for the day while he reads it and mulls it over. Even though it's his perfect life, I'm sure he wouldn't want you to be so miserable. Could you still live in the same house but have separate lives so to speak? I'm thinking a room over the garage for him, spare bedroom that becomes his etc.

Talulahalula · 11/08/2024 10:22

Agreeing on 50/50, family values and parenting together is a valuable foundation, whether you stay together or not. It is the foundation you need after the last few years, to rebuild your life and find out what you want to do. Saying that is not fawning over your DP but acknowledging that bringing DC up yourself is much, much harder in terms of money, time and space for yourself.
As for DP gets praise for taking baby and toddler out together, it is just what you do - most women don’t realise women do not yet have equality until they become parents. So I would suggest that part of the issue is coming to terms with that - and as and when you have the energy, doing what you can to advocate for change, whatever that looks like.

belle777 · 11/08/2024 10:41

I was in a very similar position - but I did like him and loved him at first. An excellent dad, and great around the house. But he was not at all affectionate and was not interested in sleeping with me post kids, and by the time they were 5 and 7 nothing had changed despite many attempts by me to resolve it - he refused to go to counselling and just stuck his head in the sand. And I did exactly what a PP said would happen. I cheated when I hit 41. Luckily it really worked out for me and I married the love of my life (the person I cheated with) last year. I have 50:50 custody, and my new husband is very solvent, kind, an excellent step dad, and we get lots of time together where I can reconnect with who I was before children. So it isn’t over, you can make it through this phase, and start your life again. Good luck x

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