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Husband told me that there's a rumour in work...

254 replies

Shkbop91 · 13/07/2024 20:23

Will try to keep as brief as possible.....
Husband and I been together for 11 years, married for 5 two DC, youngest 11 weeks.
He went for coffee today with one of his female work friends (she's on maternity and they meet up every few weeks or so). He told me this:
She asked him what was going on with him and another female co-worker (lets call her Mary). She had heard that they were hooking up from a mutual colleague.
He tells me this in front of the children (in our garden for some reason) about 3 hours after he comes home from meeting his friend.
He says he wanted to tell me because he's angry that the mutual coworker had started rumours that yes having an affair with Mary and he didn't want to seem off and of course I should know about these rumours. He told me that when he went out to walk the dog earlier (a while after he came back) he rang Mary and told her there had been rumours.

I find it all a bit strange. I hold my hands up, I have in the past found issue with his friendships with his female colleagues. My father had an affair behind my mums back when I was a teen and I stumbled on it. That's my issue and insecurity which I have previously visited on my relationship but I've worked hard on the insecurities. The issue is that my husband has lied, has been caught out in his lies before and I'm really muddled up because I find it weird that he's telling me about this "rumour"

He's name dropped Mary quite a few times in the last few months. He's been going on walks with her on their lunch break. We are ironically going to her house tomorrow to go and pick up a secondhand thing. They play chess against each other on an app. They WhatsApp fairly frequently.
The biggest thing I am struggling with though is that a few days ago he kissed me on the cheek and he stunk of cigarettes. I told him that and he was like "wow that's weird" (we are both ex smokers). His work coat stunk of smoke too. I called him on it and asked if he had been smoking (I made it so clear to him that I didn't mind if he was cannot stress that enough) he said not. I saw a message from him to Mary saying thanks for that earlier but I had to blag a lighter as I was leaving work.
So he's lying about smoking. I asked him again today and he says not.
I'm so confused as to wtf is going on. Does anyone have any suggestions on what I do?
He did ask me if I believed him about it being a rumour regarding Mary which I thought was weird but might have been because I was a bit skeptical and had come across as suspicious.....
He's going on a work night out while I will have the youngest visiting family and our eldest will be staying with his grandparents overnight so husband can go out drinking. Mary will be there and now I'm feeling a bit uncomfortable!

OP posts:
IAlwaysTellTheTruthEvenWhenILie · 13/07/2024 21:10

If they're not already having an affair, it won't be long until they do

Topee · 13/07/2024 21:11

Ask him what the two of them get up to for colleagues to draw the conclusion that they’re having an affair.

AfraidToRun · 13/07/2024 21:11

what does your gut tell you?

Roryhon · 13/07/2024 21:13

Lots of people have close friends at work, it’s true, and rumours can start, but this seems a little more suspicious to me. He’s already got form for not being trustworthy, he’s already lying about smoking (and is sharing that secret with her too..). It feels like he’s telling you because he’s got to, then he’s asking whether you believe it - which is strange in itself. The constantly messaging her and playing online with her is OTT too. And despite the rumours etc, and after having thrown a bombshell at you, he goes out on a work do with her. I wouldn’t trust him or be impressed. It sounds like that’s largely what he’s like, and he doesn’t change even when you were unhappy previously, and he probably won’t now. But I’d be fed up of him personally.

Nori10 · 13/07/2024 21:14

It does sound suspicious. My first instinct is that he's trying to get ahead of things by telling you about this rumour, so that if anything gets back to you, you’ll dismiss it as fiction. Sounds like he's also over-explaining things too, which in my experience is often a sign of dishonesty. Trying to ‘convince’ someone by giving a lot of detail. I'm afraid I would be suspicious.

Garlickest · 13/07/2024 21:14

He's back on the fags and is lying about it.

Without that - and some things from your update - I was thinking people do make friends with opposite-sex colleagues, and workplaces do jump too quickly to "affair".

But ... he's 100% lying about the smoking, therefore he does lie to you about stuff that matters. So he could just as easily be lying about Mary. It sounds rather as though the pregnant friend threatened to tell, so he's trying to get ahead of it. Is this possible, do you think, @Shkbop91?

He was abusing codeine and hiding it from you. Other substances, too, by the looks of things.

I'm very sorry but you cannot trust this husband of yours.

TheBottomsOfMyTrousersAreRolled · 13/07/2024 21:14

Justrelax · 13/07/2024 21:05

Before I read the thread I saw the title and thought 'Oh he's having an affair and covering his arse'.

Now I've read it - I think it even more.

Yep me too. I knew before opening it someone at work knew about his affair and he was now doing damage control.

op, id be tempted to tell him that today he has told he he isnt having an affair and he isnt smoking. Why does he think he is a good liar.

He's going on a work night out while I will have the youngest visiting family and our eldest will be staying with his grandparents overnight so husband can go out drinking.
why do you all need to go out? Do you have a fing door cam?

XChrome · 13/07/2024 21:15

"went through his phone a very long time ago (?8 years) and found banter messages to a woman in a group chat referencing his cock. I told him I didn't like it and didn't want him talking 1:1 with her which he carried on doing."

🤯 This is not his first time he's at least tried to get an affair going. If he hasn't been able to yet, he will one day. FFS, you have an 11 month old with this giant asshole? My deepest sympathies. Get yourself tested for STIs and see a lawyer.

ChampagneLassie · 13/07/2024 21:15

I used to work with a man who went out of his way to spend time with female colleagues and said they were friends. I became one of them, he was quite an interesting guy and I enjoyed his company but 0 sexual interest from my side. There were rumours about others. I subsequently suspect he was having it off whenever he could and didn’t try it with me as he realised I’d turn him down (and possibly raise grievance). Even if I’m wrong about actually crossing the line I don’t think his behaviour was appropriate for a married man and was disrespectful to his wife. What you say of your husband reminds of this. Why is he spending so much time with other women? Isn’t he busy enough with small children and work? He should be more responsible

Oblomov24 · 13/07/2024 21:16

Take care op.

Flopsy145 · 13/07/2024 21:16

Regardless of whether he's laying groundwork, it's platonic, or whatever else, if it makes you uncomfortable that's the main thing. That's what I would focus on. Be honest and say this how you're feeling and this is why, and if he's not willing to stop or if he gets defensive then I would say he doesn't have your best interests at heart.
Womens intuition is a real thing, whether or not something is happening I think you might be sensing something that is making you feel weird.

It's also very different depending on the person, for instance my DH worked with a big group of people and there were a few older ladies, mum of the group vibes, who would go out with the guys and my DH would sometimes drop them home. I knew them, they were about 30 years older and not cougars if you get what I mean. No issue with that. Had it been women his age he had been messaging or dropping home or something, I may have felt differently. Similarly I have a group of friends at work and one is a guy, he's a fair bit older than me and not to be mean, aesthetically as far from my type as you could get. Absolutely no attraction nor would there ever be, I think I'd actually rather be celibate. But as a mate, great laugh. Sometimes we walk in a group, sometimes just me and him to vent about work. He came to my wedding along with others, my DH has no interest or worry. However if it was someone who was a bit more attractive or whatever, then out of respect for my husband, despite it being 100% platonic, I just wouldn't do solo meet ups. So as shallow as it sounds, aesthetics and age of the other person play a big part, at least for me

Longdueachange · 13/07/2024 21:17

Itstherichthatgetthepleasureasusual · 13/07/2024 21:08

OP says he is warning her that there are rumours he is having an affair with a female colleague. For these rumours to have started, if they indeed have, then he must have been behaving in such a way for people to notice his behaviour with this colleague. He must have been paying her attention, behaving in a way that observers have seen as indicative of a close relationship.
Therefore the conclusion is he has not been behaving in a way appropriate and normal for a man with an 11 week old baby. And his focus has not been on his young family and his DW otherwise people would not be reading things into his behaviour with his colleague.

Edited

The rumours, and there were many, in my case were completely unfounded. Gossips will however gossip.

coldcallerbaiter · 13/07/2024 21:19

Tell him, hmm that is an interesting rumour but btw if I ever find out it is true I will wipe the floor with you.

WindsurfingDreams · 13/07/2024 21:20

All the rumours at our work about affairs always turned out to be true eventually.

People who are interacting appropriately and professional don't create rumours.

Greatmate · 13/07/2024 21:20

I reckon he's having an affair.

Personally, I'd play his game. I'd be saying good grief haven't they got vivid imagination. How ridiculous (and laugh). Is then let it play out. The more comfortable he feels the quicker he'll let his guard down and fuck up.

Dymaxion · 13/07/2024 21:20

He went for coffee today with one of his female work friends (she's on maternity and they meet up every few weeks or so). He told me this:
She asked him what was going on with him and another female co-worker (lets call her Mary). She had heard that they were hooking up from a mutual colleague.

Not sure I would be looking at Mary, how well do you know this woman ?

DAZZlanch · 13/07/2024 21:21

The mentionitis is telling. I work with a very good friend’s husband. I saw a suspicious video of him and a significantly younger Co-worker at Xmas. Said nothing because nothing could be proved. Then he kept mentioning her - I can’t stand her so I was like ‘why are you talking to me about her?’ Because he was shagging her and couldn’t understand why I (his wife’s friend) wouldn’t be delighted for them and their 15 year age gap 🙄) He knows he’s running out of time and he’s trying to manipulate you. I’d do some digging.

Tgjjl · 13/07/2024 21:23

Serial cheat.

got away with it by making you think you have insecurities re your father cheating.

he’s now hiding his affair with Mary in plain sight by telling you.

I’d tell him: right it’s time for us to divorce. I know you’re a cheat and I’m don’t. Don’t let him press you on the details as he’ll lie and lie and lie even if you did have 100% proof.

Choochoo21 · 13/07/2024 21:24

Usually I would absolutely say that he is having an affair/trying to have one and is warning you incase it comes out.

But in this case I’m not so sure.

You sound very paranoid and jealous.

A few of the examples where he has lied, are over minor things.
Why couldn’t he talk to his colleague just because she made a joke about his cock and why can’t he see a friend of his who has had a baby.

It sounds like you wouldn’t allow him to be friends with female colleagues and that you are possibly a bit controlling.

They are obviously friends but none of us can tell you whether they are having an affair or not.

The only thing you can do is hope he is being faithful and keep an eye on any suspicious behaviour.

TheBroadintheDaylight · 13/07/2024 21:27

My best friend is a man. A colleague of many years. Our very much platonic, almost sibling, relationship looks nothing like what your husband is doing here. His whole story stinks.

Peanuts2000 · 13/07/2024 21:30

I would be worried too OP. Apart from the lying about stuff before (eg why is he taking high strength codeine?) why is he spending so much time out of the house, having coffee and meeting up with female friends etc when you have a tiny baby and another young child? Does he spend much time at home?
I would not be happy with this. So he is on a work's night out tonight with the colleague he is rumoured to be having an affair with? I wouldn't be happy with that either.
He seems to be gaslighting you as well. Hope you have support IRL.

daisychain01 · 13/07/2024 21:32

He's getting in there first before someone else does.

He's name dropped Mary quite a few times in the last few months

Mentionitis

Itstherichthatgetthepleasureasusual · 13/07/2024 21:33

Longdueachange · 13/07/2024 21:17

The rumours, and there were many, in my case were completely unfounded. Gossips will however gossip.

Just because they were unfounded in your case doesn't mean they are unfounded in OP's DH's case.
My feeling is if you have two children, one of whom is 11 weeks old, he must have been behaving in a way not considerd typical of a committed and loving family man who is father of a new born for those rumours to have started. Most colleagues I'm sure would have been expecting and tolerant of him to be over focusing on his new family and for his colleagues to be starting rumours of his infidelity he must have fallen far short of what was considered normal behaviour on his part.

diddl · 13/07/2024 21:33

To me it sounds as if you should have left years ago.

He seems to have got away with stuff in the past so carries on.

Hatfullofwillow · 13/07/2024 21:33

SuperSange · 13/07/2024 20:25

If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck.....

"Then we have at least to consider the possibility that we have a small aquatic bird of the family anatidae on our hands." Douglas Adams.