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Husband told me that there's a rumour in work...

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Shkbop91 · 13/07/2024 20:23

Will try to keep as brief as possible.....
Husband and I been together for 11 years, married for 5 two DC, youngest 11 weeks.
He went for coffee today with one of his female work friends (she's on maternity and they meet up every few weeks or so). He told me this:
She asked him what was going on with him and another female co-worker (lets call her Mary). She had heard that they were hooking up from a mutual colleague.
He tells me this in front of the children (in our garden for some reason) about 3 hours after he comes home from meeting his friend.
He says he wanted to tell me because he's angry that the mutual coworker had started rumours that yes having an affair with Mary and he didn't want to seem off and of course I should know about these rumours. He told me that when he went out to walk the dog earlier (a while after he came back) he rang Mary and told her there had been rumours.

I find it all a bit strange. I hold my hands up, I have in the past found issue with his friendships with his female colleagues. My father had an affair behind my mums back when I was a teen and I stumbled on it. That's my issue and insecurity which I have previously visited on my relationship but I've worked hard on the insecurities. The issue is that my husband has lied, has been caught out in his lies before and I'm really muddled up because I find it weird that he's telling me about this "rumour"

He's name dropped Mary quite a few times in the last few months. He's been going on walks with her on their lunch break. We are ironically going to her house tomorrow to go and pick up a secondhand thing. They play chess against each other on an app. They WhatsApp fairly frequently.
The biggest thing I am struggling with though is that a few days ago he kissed me on the cheek and he stunk of cigarettes. I told him that and he was like "wow that's weird" (we are both ex smokers). His work coat stunk of smoke too. I called him on it and asked if he had been smoking (I made it so clear to him that I didn't mind if he was cannot stress that enough) he said not. I saw a message from him to Mary saying thanks for that earlier but I had to blag a lighter as I was leaving work.
So he's lying about smoking. I asked him again today and he says not.
I'm so confused as to wtf is going on. Does anyone have any suggestions on what I do?
He did ask me if I believed him about it being a rumour regarding Mary which I thought was weird but might have been because I was a bit skeptical and had come across as suspicious.....
He's going on a work night out while I will have the youngest visiting family and our eldest will be staying with his grandparents overnight so husband can go out drinking. Mary will be there and now I'm feeling a bit uncomfortable!

OP posts:
Tartfulodger · 13/07/2024 20:49

I also think he's having an affair. The reason he's told you Is because people are starting to talk and he's worried you might hear the rumour from someone else, so he's getting in first. Then when someone else does tell you you're going to think it's a load of rubbish because he's already told you all about it.

Seriously you deserve better. The cigarette smoke, the constant messaging and meeting each other, he isn't even trying to hide this affair from you. He's doing it all in plain sight right under your nose. The question is how much longer are you going to put up with it?

Fannyfiggs · 13/07/2024 20:51

It doesn't sound good OP. Can you ask them both what's going on when you're at Mary's tomorrow? I doubt they'll tell the truth but you can probably tell if they're lying.

Itstherichthatgetthepleasureasusual · 13/07/2024 20:51

Longdueachange · 13/07/2024 20:45

I've been the subject of malicious gossip at work before, and it wasn't pleasant. It was a friend I would go for lunch with, etc; nothing happened, but colleagues gossiped. In another workplace I would have to pretend I didn't go to overnight away days, because a couple of wives would give their husbands grief if they thought it wasn't a men only thing. I know it held me back. Him lying about smoking doesn't mean he is having an affair.

Yes but as a pp said : he has an 11 week old baby. His focus outside work should be on his DW and his children. Not on female work colleagues.
He shouldn't even have time to be behaving in a way that starts rumours because he should be investing his time in doing his share with his family. Not with other women.

Bettergetthebunker · 13/07/2024 20:52

Definitely something going on

Gwenhwyfar · 13/07/2024 20:54

EmmaGrundyForPM · 13/07/2024 20:29

Years ago I had a good male friend at work. I moved offices so didn't see him as often, but we'd sometimes meet up in a pub for lunch.

Somehow a rumour started that we were having an affair. We weren't. The friendship was purely platonic. But people make up shit all the time.

Edited

I see that at my work as well.

Bemusedandconfusedagain · 13/07/2024 20:55

My guess is that the other friend he met up with feels for you as a fellow mat leave mum and, having heard the rumours, has either threatened to tell you or suggested someone else might. So now he's trying to cover his arse.

Crabwoman · 13/07/2024 20:55

He's laying groundwork here.

  1. To test the waters on your reaction
  2. So you're already aware of "rumours" and how "ridiculous they are so believe him, not others".
DancingPhantomsOnTheTerrace · 13/07/2024 20:55

EmmaGrundyForPM · 13/07/2024 20:29

Years ago I had a good male friend at work. I moved offices so didn't see him as often, but we'd sometimes meet up in a pub for lunch.

Somehow a rumour started that we were having an affair. We weren't. The friendship was purely platonic. But people make up shit all the time.

Edited

Yep I had this as well with a good male friend from work.

In my case, I'd actually met his wife several times and really liked her, and at the time of the rumour I was dating her brother.

A 100% platonic friendship that still persists 10 years later (I am no longer dating his BIL, and I don't work with him anymore) without ever a hint of anything more from either of us. But the rumour was still there.

FeatherBoas · 13/07/2024 20:55

Men and women can be friends despite what people say, if you don't trust him that's a different problem. Not saying there couldn't be something going on. but would your DH be unfaithful?

Julyshouldbesunny · 13/07/2024 20:56

Suggest she comes over for coffee to meet the baby. His reaction will tell you all you need to know.

Longdueachange · 13/07/2024 20:58

Itstherichthatgetthepleasureasusual · 13/07/2024 20:51

Yes but as a pp said : he has an 11 week old baby. His focus outside work should be on his DW and his children. Not on female work colleagues.
He shouldn't even have time to be behaving in a way that starts rumours because he should be investing his time in doing his share with his family. Not with other women.

I'm not reading anywhere that says his focus is on a female work colleague. He is at work and is still going to talk about and to work colleagues, despite there being a baby.

Shkbop91 · 13/07/2024 20:59

Trying to keep up with replies here before I do baby's feed and eat.
So some people asking questions:
Previous lies I caught him on:

He had a female friend over to the house, with her baby, visiting. He didn't tell me about it because he knew I wouldn't like it. This was years ago. She was the one I had insecurities over. He didn't lie specifically to me about her coming over. She got him beer as a birthday present. He told me a family member got it. I caught him out on it and he fussed up.

I wrongly went through his phone a very long time ago (?8 years) and found banter messages to a woman in a group chat referencing his cock. I told him I didn't like it and didn't want him talking 1:1 with her which he carried on doing.

Not specifically lying but he randomly started taking high strength cocodamol that weren't his along with alcohol just before baby was born. I haven't found any recently but he had them stashed in a draw and was keeping them hidden. Some of his friends in work do a lot of drugs, Mary does some I think? Might still be doing them

Someone asked about what they WhatsApp about, I don't know as I don't check his messages. I stopped doing it a long time ago. I only saw the cigarette message because he stupidly had the chat open as a notification.

Someone suggested asking I go through his phone. I could do this but he will probably dislike that and see it as me doubting him which might spark it all off.

Lots of people saying they had platonic relationships with colleagues/ex colleagues which is why I am a bit torn about it all.
Lots of people saying he's laying groundwork, something going on but I can't accuse him off the back of this alone. I don't know where to take the convo to? I don't have any other evidence. Just a bit lost really......

OP posts:
somepeopleareunbelievable · 13/07/2024 21:00

It seems to be a common thing that a certain type of man shags around when his wife is heavily pregnant or just given birth. He might not be shagging Mary now, but something definitely happened at some point. And the work colleagues always know.

MsNorburry · 13/07/2024 21:01

It seems like he's preparing his defence, in case proof appears to hang him

thatstakingalongtimetoboil · 13/07/2024 21:03

His having an affair In plain sight. His basically telling you he is

XChrome · 13/07/2024 21:03

Sorry, but this is very likely an affair. He told you because he was afraid you would hear it from somebody else. It's an attempt to do damage control.
You know he lies, he's been inappropriate with women before, so what more do you need? You know in your gut what's going on here. Don't talk yourself out of it.
It's quite common for cheaters to drop the name of their affair partners into conversations like he does. Sickeningly, they enjoy knowing they are duping you and can't resist shoving it in your face.
If you want proof, hire a private investigator. I think you know enough already, but that's for you to decide.

somepeopleareunbelievable · 13/07/2024 21:04

His reaction to the rumour is also very weird - like he spent a couple of hours working out his plan of action and how to sound innocent.

XChrome · 13/07/2024 21:04

thatstakingalongtimetoboil · 13/07/2024 21:03

His having an affair In plain sight. His basically telling you he is

Absolutely right. Dirty bastard.

GingerPirate · 13/07/2024 21:05

somepeopleareunbelievable · 13/07/2024 21:04

His reaction to the rumour is also very weird - like he spent a couple of hours working out his plan of action and how to sound innocent.

👆
Makes me feel nauseous 🤢

Justrelax · 13/07/2024 21:05

Before I read the thread I saw the title and thought 'Oh he's having an affair and covering his arse'.

Now I've read it - I think it even more.

Mayel · 13/07/2024 21:05

It could be an innocent friendship or there could be more to it.

whatever the case is you're in your rights to say to him that hearing there are rumours about the two of you at work makes you uncomfortable and out of respect for you you'd like him to stop meeting her outside of work and to not attend this work party.

if he agrees he respects you. If not, I'd be very concerned about him.

Exactlab · 13/07/2024 21:06

LizzieBennett73 · 13/07/2024 20:28

He's laying the groundwork for his lies. Sorry, OP.

Yes, it’s obvious. To say it in front of the children is utterly disgusting.

DreamTheMoors · 13/07/2024 21:07

It could be just a rumour, OP.
Mumsnet is a horrible, terrible place to ask - because there are people here who will tell you that yes, he’s a cheating, lying bastard and LTB.
They don’t know you or your husband.
I think I’d have a very serious conversation with your husband and lay out all your concerns and issues with him.
If he continues to deny, deny, deny, you’ll have to use your own good judgment as to whether to trust him or not.
I’m so very sorry this is happening to you and wish you the very best.

Itstherichthatgetthepleasureasusual · 13/07/2024 21:08

Longdueachange · 13/07/2024 20:58

I'm not reading anywhere that says his focus is on a female work colleague. He is at work and is still going to talk about and to work colleagues, despite there being a baby.

OP says he is warning her that there are rumours he is having an affair with a female colleague. For these rumours to have started, if they indeed have, then he must have been behaving in such a way for people to notice his behaviour with this colleague. He must have been paying her attention, behaving in a way that observers have seen as indicative of a close relationship.
Therefore the conclusion is he has not been behaving in a way appropriate and normal for a man with an 11 week old baby. And his focus has not been on his young family and his DW otherwise people would not be reading things into his behaviour with his colleague.

Despair1 · 13/07/2024 21:08

Hi OP, I am truly sorry about his behaviour (telling you in garden 3 hours later?).
All seems very suspicious and trying to cover up. You have 2 young children inc an 11 week old baby. I know that men and women can have platonic relationships but my feeling is that something is going on. You are very vulnerable right now so don't make any rash decisions. Moment by moment.
And I agree that he should be spending time at home supporting his family right now, not going out drinking with friends and leisurely lunches with work colleagues. Please take care of yourself, you don't need or deserve this