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Affair after nearly 40 years of marriage

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citylady62 · 26/06/2024 05:55

Same old story but after nearly 40 years of marriage and three grown up successful children I was ready to settle into a comfortable long retirement with my husband. In our marriage he's been the earner and I've worked part time. Times have gone up and down financially but we are now very comfortable - house in a good city and abroad. We have quite different interests and I know that I've been the more extrovert- would describe my husband maybe as borderline highly functioning ASD at times but only slightly. I guess we'd slipped into taking each other for granted. I'd envisaged a really easy ride retirement with him working in his interesting business which he's been growing for the part 4 years and will hopefully give us a good return eventually and which I can dabble in if I choose - it keeps him happy but too happy it turns out. He brought a woman into the business initially as a volunteer, then gave her a paid project and now she's full time managing one project. Last year he told me he no longer loved me and was worried for our future. I took it badly, threatened suicide. We dribbled on through winter into spring. No sleeping together. I suspected an affair but couldn't bring myself to ask. I know he loves the company of this woman who is 8 years his junior. He told me this spring that he had had an affair and slept with her ( I asked him this directly otherwise suspect he'd have kept that to himself) but couldn't contemplate breaking our family apart after so long. He's really keen got the grown up offspring not to know. I took it badly, threatened suicide again and he has agreed to end the affair. He's effectively ghosted his employee as I've told him it's her or me. I'm glad I'm causing her hurt through encouraging him to now treat her harshly because even though he says he instigated it I blame her for reciprocating. He has a high sex drive when younger but it slowed down a lot. I know they were really close, my husband was clearly in love and she's very much like him in personality- quiet, serious and work focused. God knows how he'll negotiate working with her without contact- their problem. He says he can't sack her as her own marriage ended (apparently not her fault and not through infidelity and before this affair) and he was a support through this. I should say my husband confessed to almost getting too close to another woman through work 4 years ago but we talked and it brought us closer, or do so thought. I don't want to lose him. I'm insanely jealous he turned to another woman for companionship leading to a 8 month affair. We slept together recently at my instigation as I needed evidence he was 'back' in our marriage. We'll have counselling. Not sure I'll ever forgive him but I do think, as does he, that he was ridiculous to threaten our comfortable years of retirement ahead and family moments just for the concept I suspect of finding a soulmate in his 60s. I know it's me forcing him to cut her off - he's out of touch emotionally in many ways and thought he could keep seeing her through work but I've put a stop to that by issuing an ultimatum. I know I'm very controlling but he's always seemed to be happy with that and happy in his own sweet world providing for me. We're starting counselling and I'm confident he's not seeing the OW and has but her off harshly to make things clear and he's constantly holding my hand etc again and agreeing to lots of being together. Will he really fall back in love with me having confessed to falling out of love with me last Autumn or is this all surface manipulation of feelings and deep down he still wants her? I can't contemplate life without the structure and status of my marriage - we've been together since I was in my early 20s so he's pretty much all I've known in terms of relationships. I just wanted life to keep
pottering on and can still incredulous he'd threaten all we've built up for an 8 month romance.
I confronted her at work and told her how awful she was for sleeping with my husband. She explained later he instigated and it was mutually deep feelings that they had for each other but i can't believe my loving gentle husband would go this without encouragement from her.

Now I'm feeling strong because he's back and has rejected her but I wonder if we can really ever get back to the 'together forever' stable couple I thought we were? Anyone else experienced an affair after such a long marriage? Will we make it? Will he suddenly give in on his no contact with OW I've forced him into? At the moment he's doing all to convince me it's over including sleeping with me and is full of regret but is this true love for me or normal for a man trying to convince himself that a good-ish marriage he almost gave up on for an affair is the better choice for comfort and stability in his later years (he's 64) than starting again with someone he once thought of as a soulmate but now seems able to cut off.

OP posts:
Heartbreaktuna · 26/06/2024 11:28

I am sorry. It is an incredibly selfish thing to have an affair.
I would recommend reading through the chump lady blog archives. They can be cathartic. As an example
www.chumplady.com/dear-chump-lady-im-obsessed-with-the-other-woman/

Staringatthewalljustmeagain · 26/06/2024 11:34

Oh OP, please don’t be a deluded fool 💔

Staringatthewalljustmeagain · 26/06/2024 11:44

You do sound awful on your OP though 😬

migraineagain · 26/06/2024 11:59

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skippy67 · 26/06/2024 09:03

The Op's DH has told her he doesn't love her.
He's slept with someone else, who he's still working (and probably still having sex)with. The OP manipulated him into not leaving. And you think the only way forward is couples therapy??

Well, if they want to go forward in a relationship, yes. They still seem to want to be together. Of course if they want to split up, then there’s nothing else to be said. I think you misunderstood.

PinkLemonade555 · 26/06/2024 12:06

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This is why cheating isn’t always black and white.

Starlight7080 · 26/06/2024 12:13

This is so sad to read. It sounds like you built a very nice life together .
And you sound like you have been a devoted wife.
But people fall out of love no matter how many years they have been together.
He will still love you and care about you but that's different to being in love .
I am not condoning affairs at all. He should have left if that unhappy.
But you can't make threats of suicide to trap him. That's not how you rebuild your relationship.
That's manipulation. He obviously doesnt want your children to lose you and he be blamed. And at the same time doesn't want them to know about the affairs and hate him.
Again he never should have had an affair but its done now .

BlackStrayCat · 26/06/2024 12:21

For all anyone knows, the DC may not be horrified he had an affair.

BitsNBibs40s · 26/06/2024 12:40

I personally think that you need to share what has happened with your family.

BlackStrayCat · 26/06/2024 12:48

yes, if I were the husband I would do this asap.
The DCs must be in their 30s surely? They will have their own opinions.

Starrynights9 · 26/06/2024 12:54

Op please take strength from the posters who support you in at least trying to save your marriage with counselling. By all accounts it sounds like it was a very happy marriage for the majority of your 40 yrs. Only you know your DH well enough to decide if he is feeling coerced & controlled. Ask him.

I wish you both well.

Mrsredlipstick · 26/06/2024 13:08

I have never read something so shocking.
The OP obviously has never experienced the death by suicide of a close relative or friend. To threaten your husband and contemplate leaving your young adult DC without their mother is disgusting. Controlling and some. I am fully aware it is the act of a disordered mind but no one should have to be threatened with that because you want your confortable life.
Please treat your husband of many years with the love you say you have for him.
'a man convinced against his will, is a man unconvinced still'.
Some growing up on your part is needed.

SirChenjins · 26/06/2024 13:11

By all accounts it sounds like it was a very happy marriage for the majority of your 40 yrs

How on earth did you get that from the OP's posts? Confused

sunflowrsngunpowdr · 26/06/2024 13:20

It's fine to hate this other woman she's a bitch who is old enough to know better. If you want to forgive your husband then that's up to you to find a way to do that but I hear it's not an easy thing to do. If your marriage is of such high value to you both then you will probably coast along until you die and at 64 I doubt he will have many affairs left in him but will you both be happy like this? I'm with the pps - threatening to kill your self is not cool.

Starrynights9 · 26/06/2024 13:26

SirChenjins · 26/06/2024 13:11

By all accounts it sounds like it was a very happy marriage for the majority of your 40 yrs

How on earth did you get that from the OP's posts? Confused

Op called him her 'loving gentle husband' I assume this is his nature & OP felt loved and safe within the marriage. Her more dominant & outgoing personality must have suited him or he wouldn't have married her. It's not all men that wear the trousers.

PinkLemonade555 · 26/06/2024 13:28

Starrynights9 · 26/06/2024 13:26

Op called him her 'loving gentle husband' I assume this is his nature & OP felt loved and safe within the marriage. Her more dominant & outgoing personality must have suited him or he wouldn't have married her. It's not all men that wear the trousers.

It suited him so well he fell in love with someone else and wanted to leave.

until OP threatened to top herself.

Guitarstringscar · 26/06/2024 13:30

He’s with you because you’ve repeatedly threatened suicide. This is no way to keep a man in a relationship. I know you must be hurting right now but you’re keeping him with under duress.

retinolalcohol · 26/06/2024 13:33

Why do you even want to still be married to someone who needed you to threaten suicide in order to stay?

You should never ever beg a man to stay, and certainly not like this. It's highly manipulative and some would say abusive.

He's likely not been happy for a long time, and you can't be ever again. Let go.

Mrsredlipstick · 26/06/2024 13:37

Coercive control if the roles were reversed.

I have been married nearly the same length of time and know the heartache suicide can cause. I wouldn't expect a mature woman to behave like this.
I'd take my half of the dosh, have loads of therapy and make a new life.
The poor bloke will be living on egg shells.

NonPlayerCharacter · 26/06/2024 13:41

Starrynights9 · 26/06/2024 13:26

Op called him her 'loving gentle husband' I assume this is his nature & OP felt loved and safe within the marriage. Her more dominant & outgoing personality must have suited him or he wouldn't have married her. It's not all men that wear the trousers.

By OP's account it was happy. We never heard his account. We know only what he did

Starrynights9 · 26/06/2024 13:44

She's not the first to blurt out the threat of suicide when confronted with your worst nightmare & she wont be the last. Yes, it's terrible but I'm sure they've talked it through with OP explaining how she felt at that moment but would never contemplate carrying it out, especially given she has wonderful children. She could also have blurted out other anger fueled expressions common in those situations which again she would have no intention of doing.

PinkLemonade555 · 26/06/2024 13:47

Starrynights9 · 26/06/2024 13:44

She's not the first to blurt out the threat of suicide when confronted with your worst nightmare & she wont be the last. Yes, it's terrible but I'm sure they've talked it through with OP explaining how she felt at that moment but would never contemplate carrying it out, especially given she has wonderful children. She could also have blurted out other anger fueled expressions common in those situations which again she would have no intention of doing.

It’s not normal, sorry. Also in the context of her other posts she is clearly quite controlling and manipulative.

she won’t return though so…

YourWildAmberSloth · 26/06/2024 14:01

OP, I am genuinely questioning why you started this thread. You clearly have doubts in your husband/relationship but as soon as anyone suggests that this may not be the happy reconciliation that you want it to be, you become defensive. I'm not trying to be unkind but the truth is that your husband cheated because he wanted to and because he could. She might not even be the first. He was finally honest with you, you threatened suicide and now you are both lying to yourselves. Having sex with you doesn't change things. Unfortunately the likelihood is that he will come to resent you and the relationship, if he's been forced stay where he doesn't want to be. By blaming OW you are conveniently absolving him of any responsibility for this whole mess. I have no sympathy for cheaters, but I'm afraid that you are going to get your heart broken again.

BlackStrayCat · 26/06/2024 14:08

It is interesting to me that the OW was not a needy and immature 22 year old, open to seedy manipulation with nothing in common but a woman in her mid 50s, independent and open to working on a business. Someone with clear shared interests.

The former is a pathetic mid life crisis fling of dubious morals the latter, not so much.

SirChenjins · 26/06/2024 14:17

Starrynights9 · 26/06/2024 13:26

Op called him her 'loving gentle husband' I assume this is his nature & OP felt loved and safe within the marriage. Her more dominant & outgoing personality must have suited him or he wouldn't have married her. It's not all men that wear the trousers.

Why did you miss out the rest of that paragraph that preceded the 'loving husband bit'?

She explained later he instigated and it was mutually deep feelings that they had for each other but i can't believe my loving gentle husband would go this without encouragement from her

That doesn't scream happy marriage to me - nor does the bit about finding his soulmate in his 60s. Or indeed, any number of other descriptions of her DH and their marriage.

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