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Feeling undermined after attending wedding

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failedthepsychopathtest · 24/06/2024 10:45

My DP and I have been together 22 years. We have a low-key, quiet sort of commitment that's manifested in the little things we do for each other, not in fancy words or gestures. We've never sent each other a Valentine's card or celebrated an anniversary but we've weathered illness, financial disasters, job losses, a full set of four sick, demented and dying parents and the rest. We're sometimes huggy and hand-holdy, but usually when we think no one's looking. We sometimes bicker and occasionally argue and have a day or two of not liking each other very much, but we're essentially kind and respectful towards each other. We've only said 'I love you' a few times in all the years: I didn't fall madly in love with him and he didn't with me. We were friends who became lovers and partners.

A few among our friends and family seem to think that because we've never married and because we give each other a lot of freedom (we both have our own friendship circles and hobbies and go away without the other) and because we don't call each other darling and because we're emotionally independent and don't miss each other dreadfully when one of us goes away, we're not properly bonded. We have no children so never felt the need to marry. We've both been financially independent and fairly equal in terms of our income, property ownership and pensions, so there's no pressure there.

This weekend we went to the wedding of two friends who've been living together for a couple of years. He is very cerebral, academic and normally not very emotional (he's on the autistic spectrum and talks openly about it). She's romantic with a capital R. She likes being married (she's been married twice before) and she likes calling her DH 'my beloved soulmate'. They had a full-on register office wedding with people reading romantic poetry and their vows were full of declarations about being truly, madly, deeply in love forever. She was clearly in heaven: I don't think I've ever seen anyone smile so broadly for so many hours.

The reception was lovely, lots of old friends to catch up with. At one point the bride and I had a chat and I was very complimentary (of course) about the wedding and said how lovely it was to see her so happy. She said something along the lines of 'I don't know why you two don't get married.' Then a momentary pause and a concerned expression, followed by 'But when you meet someone you truly love and feel passionate about, you'll want to get married too.' She wasn't the only person there to talk to us in that sort of way — as if somehow our 22 years together was invalidated by the fact that we haven't stood up in public and declared undying love for each other.

Despite all my attempts to tell myself that she and I are very different and what's right for her isn't right for me, I've felt undermined and vaguely upset since then. On top of that I feel bad for feeling weird about such a nice day, with her so happy. Today I've woken up feeling demoralised and sad at the thought that our quiet, unshowy dedication to each other isn't regarded as the real thing by a lot of people. I feel as if we're seen as 'less than'.

I've heard single friends talk about finding weddings an emotional strain. They'd love to have a partner and so the whole darling-soulmate-eternal-love thing can be quite painful for them.

Is there anyone out there who has had a similar experience at a happy event? Thoughts?

OP posts:
Cranacha · 28/06/2024 00:33

AffIt · 24/06/2024 11:28

In much the same way I wouldn't ask a bankrupt for financial advice, I certainly wouldn't consider somebody who had been married three times an expert on lasting relationships...

Exactly

Cranacha · 28/06/2024 00:39

Spacecowboys · 24/06/2024 18:05

Your friend is on her third marriage! A relationship of over 20 years vs someone who is on her third ‘beloved soulmate’. Seriously, why are you feeling undermined. She’s bonkers.

I had a friend like this growing up
in my 20s, always waxing lyrical about how we didn’t understand love… and had such a patronising attitude towards some of us but yet she was in true love with a new guy every other year.

She ended up marrying one of these “Loves” just before she was 30, but then a year after smugly posting her anniversary pics I heard she had an abrupt change of mind and divorced then remarried some guy from abroad - who remained living abroad despite being the father of one of her children…i wouldn’t be surprised if she’s on her third marriage now or will be soon.

Pertinentowl · 28/06/2024 04:13

That’s what weddings are, someone asks you when you are getting married, when you are having children, when your children are having children. There’s always someone who seems to have never heard about how to talk like a human.
You have been oddly defensive to a couple of posters just trying to share their own experiences with you, and I think you were rude to them. So that I don’t like. Not unreasonable to think the bride was incredibly rude though. That would put me right off her.

autienotnaughty · 28/06/2024 06:28

She felt the need to put you down on her wedding day a day all about her. She sounds insecure and like she needs validation that declarations of love = strong relationship.

When really its ability to weather storms together, compromise, friendship, passion and longevity.

Your relationship sounds very healthy

Elly46 · 28/06/2024 07:59

Weddings bring out unusual emotions in people that would otherwise stay put. Your arrangement sounds lovely, almost enviable in some ways and obviously suits you both. What others think should not matter

Justleaveitblankthen · 28/06/2024 08:14

AffIt · 24/06/2024 11:28

In much the same way I wouldn't ask a bankrupt for financial advice, I certainly wouldn't consider somebody who had been married three times an expert on lasting relationships...

Absolutely this.

MoiraPose · 28/06/2024 08:15

I wouldn't trust the opinion of someone who is on to their third marriage and still wanging on about soulmates OP.

The fact that she felt the need to single out your relationship during her wedding says a lot about her own insecurities. She's probably fully aware that people can see through such ridiculous displays of so-called romance, and wants to justify why she feels the need to gain so much external validation on her relationship.

Grand gestures are easy-all they take is a bit of money and very little thought. Daily love, daily care and daily consideration are what make a relationship.

Bluescissorsbluepen · 28/06/2024 08:18

I had a similar situation when someone said they felt bad my kids weren’t christened. The reason is simply because their dad and I are atheists. I have no problem with religion or christenings - I think it’s a bit weird when the last time the parents were in the church was their wedding but it’s none of my business.

anyway the mother giving me sad puppy eyes for my poor godless children has 7 kids by 6 dads, again no skin of my nose but I’m not taking advise about building a stable family from her!

some people just love a ceremony and sorta forget what’s behind it.

Devon23 · 28/06/2024 12:20

She sounds very needy and is probably very jealous of your independence and long lasti g relationship. Pity her but def don't let her question your lifestyle or belittle your choices.

Unicorn2721 · 28/06/2024 12:27

you should have told her how lovely a day it was just like her previous two weddings! How dare she judge you on your relationship when she’s stood up there with two others before and declare her undying love. After 22 years even if you had started all declaration of love and romance things change, relationships change and it doesn’t matter what you are like with each other it’s the important things that make a relationship like sticking together and supporting each other through some of the things you have.

crockofshite · 28/06/2024 12:48

Newbeginning12 · 24/06/2024 10:59

Who cares what she thinks. She’s been married twice before so the romantic ideal has hardly been working out for her.

EXACTLY !!

Take no notice of what other people decide on your behalf what to think, want, say, do. If it works for you don't change it.

Someone once told me that my boyfriend obviously didn't think much of me or he'd have married me ..... she's now divorced and I'm still with my boyfriend (fuck you Jane).

DaisyChainsandSunnyDays · 28/06/2024 13:05

I think you should have responded to her with, "thank you for your concern we are very happy but have no plans to marry" and leave it at that. No that she would listen some ppl think there is only one (their) way to live happily and everything else gets written off and inadequate.

GreatGardenstuff · 28/06/2024 22:55

You and your partner clearly have a true, deep, committed love for each other, which doesn’t need to be on show for other’s benefit. You are together because you both choose it, not because of financial or emotional dependency or because you’re co-parenting.
Honestly I respect and admire your relationship, I think you struck gold.

WoolySnail · 29/06/2024 13:24

There is nothing new under the sun, but like a youngster who thinks they know everything, some people when in love become a smug married and can't comprehend your relationship being as amazing as theirs.

Nicebloomers · 29/06/2024 13:50

DramaLlamaBangBang · 24/06/2024 12:30

I wouldn't be taking lessons on marriage from someone on their 3rd one!

Agreed

RealityPrinciple · 29/06/2024 14:01

I think some of the snippiness about the OP's friend being on her third marriage are clearly from posters who didn't see the OP's clarification that her friend's first husband died young. Only one of her marriages ended in divorce.

I mean, it doesn't take away from the fact that the friend said a stupid, insensitive, belittling thing, but I don't think that characterising her as someone flitting from unsatisfying marriage to unsatisfying marriage is fair.

mybeesarealive · 29/06/2024 19:49

Well it's fair to be miffed. It's what the young folk call a micro aggression. She's invalidated your life with your DP and the bond you have, based on her unconscious assumptions about love and its manifestation between two people. It stings. But she is wrong. As you have said, you've stuck together thru thick and thin. It just sounds like you are stoics rather than romantics - but perhaps that is the basis of your stability and longevity. Your friend won't have meant to hurt you. You might consider telling her though (if she is a good friend) that it was hurtful because you and DP love and care for each other every day and you hope that she as a friend can see that. If she has empathy, she might listen and apologise.

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