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Feeling undermined after attending wedding

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failedthepsychopathtest · 24/06/2024 10:45

My DP and I have been together 22 years. We have a low-key, quiet sort of commitment that's manifested in the little things we do for each other, not in fancy words or gestures. We've never sent each other a Valentine's card or celebrated an anniversary but we've weathered illness, financial disasters, job losses, a full set of four sick, demented and dying parents and the rest. We're sometimes huggy and hand-holdy, but usually when we think no one's looking. We sometimes bicker and occasionally argue and have a day or two of not liking each other very much, but we're essentially kind and respectful towards each other. We've only said 'I love you' a few times in all the years: I didn't fall madly in love with him and he didn't with me. We were friends who became lovers and partners.

A few among our friends and family seem to think that because we've never married and because we give each other a lot of freedom (we both have our own friendship circles and hobbies and go away without the other) and because we don't call each other darling and because we're emotionally independent and don't miss each other dreadfully when one of us goes away, we're not properly bonded. We have no children so never felt the need to marry. We've both been financially independent and fairly equal in terms of our income, property ownership and pensions, so there's no pressure there.

This weekend we went to the wedding of two friends who've been living together for a couple of years. He is very cerebral, academic and normally not very emotional (he's on the autistic spectrum and talks openly about it). She's romantic with a capital R. She likes being married (she's been married twice before) and she likes calling her DH 'my beloved soulmate'. They had a full-on register office wedding with people reading romantic poetry and their vows were full of declarations about being truly, madly, deeply in love forever. She was clearly in heaven: I don't think I've ever seen anyone smile so broadly for so many hours.

The reception was lovely, lots of old friends to catch up with. At one point the bride and I had a chat and I was very complimentary (of course) about the wedding and said how lovely it was to see her so happy. She said something along the lines of 'I don't know why you two don't get married.' Then a momentary pause and a concerned expression, followed by 'But when you meet someone you truly love and feel passionate about, you'll want to get married too.' She wasn't the only person there to talk to us in that sort of way — as if somehow our 22 years together was invalidated by the fact that we haven't stood up in public and declared undying love for each other.

Despite all my attempts to tell myself that she and I are very different and what's right for her isn't right for me, I've felt undermined and vaguely upset since then. On top of that I feel bad for feeling weird about such a nice day, with her so happy. Today I've woken up feeling demoralised and sad at the thought that our quiet, unshowy dedication to each other isn't regarded as the real thing by a lot of people. I feel as if we're seen as 'less than'.

I've heard single friends talk about finding weddings an emotional strain. They'd love to have a partner and so the whole darling-soulmate-eternal-love thing can be quite painful for them.

Is there anyone out there who has had a similar experience at a happy event? Thoughts?

OP posts:
AGodawfulsmallaffair · 24/06/2024 12:49

She’s a giant twat, I’d rather have what you have, any day. Give it a couple of years and see how Disney she still feels.

AGodawfulsmallaffair · 24/06/2024 12:50

AffIt · 24/06/2024 11:28

In much the same way I wouldn't ask a bankrupt for financial advice, I certainly wouldn't consider somebody who had been married three times an expert on lasting relationships...

Perfect!

Cliedi · 24/06/2024 12:52

On her third marriage? I’d take any relationship advice with a pinch of salt!

is there something stopping you from just brushing it off because you know you and your partner are happy and solid? Maybe she’s niggled a doubt you already have?

darklittlecloudsong · 24/06/2024 12:54

We've only said 'I love you' a few times in all the years: I didn't fall madly in love with him and he didn't with me. We were friends who became lovers and partners.

How can you be "properly bonded" if you're not in love with each other?

darklittlecloudsong · 24/06/2024 12:56

@OriginalUsername2

How is it insulting? What the OP describes does sound like friendly housemates. No need to get married if you don't want to and anyone who says otherwise needs to be told where to go. But OP says they're not in love. What's a relationship with your partner if you're not in love?

Cripey · 24/06/2024 12:57

The times when I’ve fallen head over heels turned out to be lust. My relationship whilst shorter than yours sounds very similar. It works for me, it gives me the things that I prioritise in life.

Cripey · 24/06/2024 13:00

@darklittlecloudsong the op hasn’t said they’re not in love with each other. She said they “didn’t fall madly in love” with each other. That’s not the same thing as not loving each other.

OP sounds far more bonded than her thrice wed friend

Epidote · 24/06/2024 13:00

OP, someone that is being divorced twice and married 3 times is lecturing you that have been 22 years with your partner about love, partnership and commitment.
Just laugh at it. She clearly doesn't know what she is talking about.

Bonbon21 · 24/06/2024 13:02

... and she is on husband number 3?.. wouldnt value her opinion very highly as obviously she doesnt have experience of long term relationships.
If this partnership works for you two then crack on.. all the lovey dovey poetry and clutching of hands will not get you through the tough times. Loyalty, humour, affection and respect will.
You two sound solid... hang on in there.. wait for the invite for round 4!!😉

tattygrl · 24/06/2024 13:02

It's staggeringly rude to say to someone in a committed, very long term relationship that they will want to get married when they meet someone else. Erm, what?? I actually can't get my head around how anyone would think that not a nasty, weird thing to say! And I don't feel like it's explained by her being all lovey doveyed up either, because why would that inspire you to tell someone that they will hopefully meet someone else who isn't their current long term partner? I'm a bit mind blown. Weird.

C0untBinFace · 24/06/2024 13:05

well, she’s on husband number 3

Steakandwine · 24/06/2024 13:06

She's been married twice and thinks she's an expert on love 😂

Love can look and feel different to each and every one of us, just because you're married doesn't mean you're necessarily happy.

Are you really happy? If yes then who cares what it looks like to others, next time say we are happy without the piece of paper. Look at Goldie hawn and kurt Russell for example.

80smonster · 24/06/2024 13:10

Lucky number 3! I mean, anyone can stand up and make declarations at a party, but can they hold true to their word for 22 years OP? Sometimes those who call the loudest about their love are the least secure in it.

Catoo · 24/06/2024 13:11

OP she is a rude twat.

However, this has bothered you enough to post on here. So maybe think about why that is. Do you want to change some of the things in your relationship? Do you need more romance? Maybe a meal out for your anniversary this year? Say you love each other more often? Do you feel loved?

💐

theemmadilemma · 24/06/2024 13:12

Rude. Just rude.

For a large part you could have been describing DH and me. We did get married because we purchased a property together and it made things easier for inheritance purposes. But we did the legal vows with 4 friends and not a lot of fuss was made.

Honestly, had it not been the for the tax implications of not marrying, I was more than happy with how committed we were, and actually liked that we had been together so long (8 years at marriage) with no legal ties to each other. I thought it demonstrated a deep level of commitment. And people are idiots if they don't see that of your relationship too. It's their issue, not yours.

MartyFunkhouser · 24/06/2024 13:14

I don’t think I’d take marital advice from someone embarking on her third! It’s a complete nonsense that she’s gone to the bother of getting married 3 times (assuming first 2 are not dead). It makes an absolute mockery of the vows you take.

Being married is important for my husband and me, but our relationship is no more proper than those of the 2 couples we know who have been together for 20+ years without being married. (Mind you, one of the women longs to be married but her partner is not interested - that’s another story)

Rockfordpeach · 24/06/2024 13:16

I've been married and miserable and I've now been with my DP for 11 years and am very happy but we're unlikely to get married. Please take no notice

Staringatthewalljustmeagain · 24/06/2024 13:16

I mean, you do sound incredibly half-arsed about each other. But if you’re happy then ignore what people say.

Galatine · 24/06/2024 13:18

Twice married and twice divorced. She's no position to comment on undying love!!

IamaRevenant · 24/06/2024 13:23

Ah just don't listen to other people's shit like this. I'll always remember when I first got married and my husband mentioned being asexual to an old friend of mine (for context they'd just come out as non binary and were discussing at length so he thought it might be a bit of something kind of in common). Their response was 'you just haven't met the right girl'. With me right there, having got married two weeks before 😅

Moral of the story is nobody should judge other people's relationships (other than abuse!)

ClassicStripe · 24/06/2024 13:24

If you are both happy then I wouldn't give another thought to it. If one of you wanted to be married it would be different.
I've been with my boyfriend 12 years. My sister met her husband 2 years ago. Seems a bit bonkers that legally they are more in a relationship than us but that is how it is and a lot of people's opinions are the same.

Sillystrumpet · 24/06/2024 13:25

Do you live together op?

itsmylife7 · 24/06/2024 13:26

Your long term relationship sounds perfect for you both.

And that's all that matters. 😉

YaWeeFurryBastard · 24/06/2024 13:27

Well she was very rude to comment like that, but this:

We've only said 'I love you' a few times in all the years: I didn't fall madly in love with him and he didn't with me. We were friends who became lovers and partners.

And the fact it’s touched a nerve could mean she has a point? If it work for you then great but I’m definitely madly in love with my husband and we were keen to marry each other. You sound like yours is more based on friendship, which is absolutely fine if that’s what you like, but it is different.

andHelenknowsimmiserablenow · 24/06/2024 13:27

DP and I are also 21 years together and not interested at all in marriage. We do get the odd occasion where someone will ask us why we aren't married at special events and just answer honestly that we don't want to be.
I remember only once bieng upset by a married older relative of DPs who wouldn't leave it alone at one party.
I suspected she was trying to make me feel rubbish or humiliated and I blamed DP for not making it clearer that our non married status was a joint agreement, not because I was waiting on a proposal! That was not a fun journey home 😕

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